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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:35 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
Apror wrote:Who do you want to invade?

probably the pink people on the map for the rest of Michigan.
I WANT TO BE WHOLE,DAMMIT!

I want to be whole again to Commrade

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Gyrenaica wrote:MAP


No CCC? BOOO!

Can't see the map, if Texas all good?
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:00 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
Apror wrote:Who do you want to invade?

probably the pink people on the map for the rest of Michigan.
I WANT TO BE WHOLE,DAMMIT!

Do you want to go against an endless air force of drones? Because I assure you that pink state can supply you just that. And we got drone controlled ships too, and mechs and power armor.

I wouldn't suggest invading me, Upper Michigan is part of the Kingdom/State of Superior boi.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:24 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Autonomy for 10 states(out of 27) of your choosing plus the governorships of California, Sinaloa, and the state of Mexico for the Triumvirate members. And how about recent history or have the peace treaty about to happen?


Ok.

Image

Autonomous Departments:

1) Baja California Sur
2) Colima
3) Yucatan
4) Nuevo Leon
5) Hidalgo
6) Chiapas
7) Zacatecas
8) Guerrero
9) Tabasco
10) Sonora

Is this acceptable to you? Btw, I'm assuming by California, you mean American California, right?

Not Chiapas, other than that is fine. And yes I mean American California. However, seeing as how the Texans have their paws on Nuevo León, pick another state or fight for it.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:28 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Ok.

Image

Autonomous Departments:

1) Baja California Sur
2) Colima
3) Yucatan
4) Nuevo Leon
5) Hidalgo
6) Chiapas
7) Zacatecas
8) Guerrero
9) Tabasco
10) Sonora

Is this acceptable to you? Btw, I'm assuming by California, you mean American California, right?

Not Chiapas, other than that is fine. And yes I mean American California. However, seeing as how the Texans have their paws on Nuevo León, pick another state or fight for it.


Alamo 2.0, then?

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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:29 pm

Also, I want the CISEN(Mexico's CIA) to be taken over or replaced by the cartel.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Not Chiapas, other than that is fine. And yes I mean American California. However, seeing as how the Texans have their paws on Nuevo León, pick another state or fight for it.


Alamo 2.0, then?

Booooooooooi. *Reacurring Nightmares*
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Not Chiapas, other than that is fine. And yes I mean American California. However, seeing as how the Texans have their paws on Nuevo León, pick another state or fight for it.


Alamo 2.0, then?

Alamo 2.0 and this time without the incompetent Santa Anna. An asymmetrical war for it.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:31 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Also, I want the CISEN(Mexico's CIA) to be taken over or replaced by the cartel.


Dismantling it would be messy and counterproductive. However, merging the agency with the Cartel's intelligence network would be better in my opinion.

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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:32 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Alamo 2.0, then?

Alamo 2.0 and this time without the incompetent Santa Anna. An asymmetrical war for it.

*When the Texans got hella tech this time*

Leave it be guys, plus, you have American states. And other places.
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:34 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Also, I want the CISEN(Mexico's CIA) to be taken over or replaced by the cartel.


Dismantling it would be messy and counterproductive. However, merging the agency with the Cartel's intelligence network would be better in my opinion.

Why would you want to outright replace it?

Also, I just realized I practically own NASA, or inherited it.
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3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:35 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Dismantling it would be messy and counterproductive. However, merging the agency with the Cartel's intelligence network would be better in my opinion.

Why would you want to outright replace it?

Also, I just realized I practically own NASA, or inherited it.

I have pretzels and an old armored cruiser,so beat that!
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:36 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Alamo 2.0, then?

Alamo 2.0 and this time without the incompetent Santa Anna. An asymmetrical war for it.

Agreed. Emperor Juan-Carlos II will probably put the Chancellor/Prime Minister personally in charge of that particular campaign. With the backing of the people there (our people), the Texans will easily be pushed out. The only question at that point is whether to continue the campaign into Texan territory across the Rio Grande. If so, that'll be a war to be remembered for the ages, no?

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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:38 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Alamo 2.0 and this time without the incompetent Santa Anna. An asymmetrical war for it.

Agreed. Emperor Juan-Carlos II will probably put the Chancellor/Prime Minister personally in charge of that particular campaign. With the backing of the people there (our people), the Texans will easily be pushed out. The only question at that point is whether to continue the campaign into Texan territory across the Rio Grande. If so, that'll be a war to be remembered for the ages, no?

Actually, the reasoning behind my campaign into this States has two reasons. The Cartel there was ridiculously cruel, and the People's hated them. The States were also gate ways for drugs, so we gave the man organized government. Then there's the fact texas supported the empire in the civil war.
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2. Pro-Life
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4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm

I'm a Cthulhist and a Proud Member of the Federation of Allies.
Don’t expect a warm welcome in P2TM, but let them warm up to you by posting good stuff.
Formerly the NCSU, add 5000 posts please.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Alamo 2.0 and this time without the incompetent Santa Anna. An asymmetrical war for it.

Agreed. Emperor Juan-Carlos II will probably put the Chancellor/Prime Minister personally in charge of that particular campaign. With the backing of the people there (our people), the Texans will easily be pushed out. The only question at that point is whether to continue the campaign into Texan territory across the Rio Grande. If so, that'll be a war to be remembered for the ages, no?

We'll just put the cartels under CISEN control but hopefully the Emperor will let the Prime Minister pick the director. My choice would be Joaquin Guzman Jr. if you were ok with that.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:40 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Agreed. Emperor Juan-Carlos II will probably put the Chancellor/Prime Minister personally in charge of that particular campaign. With the backing of the people there (our people), the Texans will easily be pushed out. The only question at that point is whether to continue the campaign into Texan territory across the Rio Grande. If so, that'll be a war to be remembered for the ages, no?

Actually, the reasoning behind my campaign into this States has two reasons. The Cartel there was ridiculously cruel, and the People's hated them. The States were also gate ways for drugs, so we gave the man organized government. Then there's the fact texas supported the empire in the civil war.


Well, the Cartel is still Mexican and Texas is not...well not yet anyways. :twisted:

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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:42 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:Actually, the reasoning behind my campaign into this States has two reasons. The Cartel there was ridiculously cruel, and the People's hated them. The States were also gate ways for drugs, so we gave the man organized government. Then there's the fact texas supported the empire in the civil war.


Well, the Cartel is still Mexican and Texas is not...well not yet anyways. :twisted:

Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.
What I believe?
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2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:43 pm

I see there's Colony RPers here...
*shoo*
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:46 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Well, the Cartel is still Mexican and Texas is not...well not yet anyways. :twisted:

Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.


This can all be avoided if you give us back those 3 states. I was just joking before.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:46 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Well, the Cartel is still Mexican and Texas is not...well not yet anyways. :twisted:

Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.

You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:47 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.

You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.


Again, Apror, restore the 3 Mexican states to Mexico and we can all walk away from this. If not...Houston (and wherever Texas' capital is) will burn.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:49 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.


This can all be avoided if you give us back those 3 states. I was just joking before.

Can you help me take back rightful Texan lands? That's kinda what this was all leading up to. I'll give them back, but I need some revenge.

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:Who you were fighting for years, and your only, and I mean only ally was Texas.

You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.

Dude, it's in the name. Plus you're country is looking pretty Imperial with all your conquests. You have conquered people's, on top of terrible human rights violations. We treated the people very well. Except the Cartel. We killed them.
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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:50 pm

Spaatz likes the cartel, they fuel his macaroni and cheese indused drug trips educational school systems for the children!
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:51 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.


Again, Apror, restore the 3 Mexican states to Mexico and we can all walk away from this. If not...Houston (and wherever Texas' capital is) will burn.

Funny thing is I probably have Aerial/Naval Superiority. Not to mention tech. You only have numbers, well, until I call in Allies who I will not name.

Edit: Wait, I do. Well, guess I'm ridding on tech.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:54 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
This can all be avoided if you give us back those 3 states. I was just joking before.

Can you help me take back rightful Texan lands? That's kinda what this was all leading up to. I'll give them back, but I need some revenge.

Pimps Inc wrote:You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.

Dude, it's in the name. Plus you're country is looking pretty Imperial with all your conquests. You have conquered people's, on top of terrible human rights violations. We treated the people very well. Except the Cartel. We killed them.


The Mexican Empire will continue to expand. I'd prefer to expand further into northern California and then push on into Oregon, or conquer more Caribbean islands, but there is currently the issue of those 3 Mexican states. Frankly, another Mexican-Texan war is in nobody's interest save both our enemies. Therefore, I propose you evacuate your troops from those states and all will be well.

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