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by Nocturniica » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:21 pm
by Fascist Russian Empire » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:30 pm
Nocturniica wrote:For proposed plotlines... what if someone very important got kidnapped and it was unclear who stole them?
Nations could blame each other when all along it's someone... right under their noses, just trying to cause trouble.
*shrug* I love making stories, but since this is an RP I don't want to make up too much because I'm worried I'll go too far or get too carried away.
Which is one reason why I made my characters very... side-charactery. Plus, I don't wnat to get too involved in case I get tied up in real life.
by The Flutterlands » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:03 pm
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nocturniica wrote:For proposed plotlines... what if someone very important got kidnapped and it was unclear who stole them?
Nations could blame each other when all along it's someone... right under their noses, just trying to cause trouble.
*shrug* I love making stories, but since this is an RP I don't want to make up too much because I'm worried I'll go too far or get too carried away.
Which is one reason why I made my characters very... side-charactery. Plus, I don't wnat to get too involved in case I get tied up in real life.
Well, if we're going to be coming up with plot ideas, I've actually had a idea for a while now.
My plan for opening up the IC would be to have it start on the anniversary of the Battle of Manehattan (the final battle in the Fourth Pony-Changeling War, and the site of a massive genocide against changelings), and have the story kick off with the Kingdom of Lethe launching a war of extermination against the Sand Changelings (a sub-species of changelings living in the deserts west of Appaloosa), with an ensuing refugee crisis as hundreds of thousands of changelings are massacred and many more flee northwards into other Equestrian states. I think it would be a pretty good way to pick up where the last story left off, and create a lot of opportunity for political drama.
by Nocturniica » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:26 pm
Attacking the Sand Changelings will be no easy feat in fact because they have heavily fortified their mounds with death traps and have sentries hiding in the sand for surprise attack. Not to mention how extremely militant they have become. In the end, it should be failure.
by Frenequesta » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:34 pm
Turmenista wrote:1. Name: Rex
2. Species: Diamond Dog
3. Sex: Male
4. Residence: "Diamondgrad", located in a former Diamond Dog underground stronghold near the Appaloosan Mountains (I know, I know, I suck with names)Explanation:In the Reboot of the Reboot, the original underground Stronghold was raided by a trio of dragons (Remember Yang) and two ponies in search of the stockpile of riches held by the dogs. A a set of tunneling explosives detonated by the raiding force in an emergency move caused a massive collapse to occur underground, burying virtually the entire original section of the stronghold under rocks. Rex and the other survivors fled deeper into the mineral-rich depths of the caverns and established a new settlement, gradually chipping away at the rocks with new technology in order to reclaim the old parts of the stronghold. As of the starting of this roleplay, the original section of the stronghold, officially dubbed Diamondgrad, has been fully reclaimed and repaired, acting as the de facto capital for Rex's unrecognized Diamond Dog nation.
5. Occupation: De facto leader of "Diamondgrad", Soldier
6. Appearance: To get a general idea of what he looks like in a more diamond dogs-like style. Source
7. Cutie mark: N/A
8. Bio:Prior to Under the Shadow of War, Rex was still a young Diamond Dog pup under the tutelage of his father, when he made his first raid on a gold shipment bound to some pony city. His father simply wanted to show his son the thrill and adventure of his craft, but Rex simply wanted more than that. He wanted to experience that raw adrenaline of raiding the ponies ruling the surface once more and striking back at where it hurt most - their purses. One raid turned into ten, and ten soon turned into dozens. As his hoard grew, so did their pack, with the stronghold becoming the largest and most notorious settlement ever seen since the Mane 6's original venture into the caverns.
Unlike the one the six mares visited, however, this settlement was much more aggressive and dangerous, to the point of where even a Royal Guard expedition had to fall back and retreat out of the tunnels (as dictated by one of the raiders on the stronghold in The Reboot of the Reboot). For a while, it seemed as if nobody was ever going to police the dogs, until one day, a certain trio of dragons looking for work, alongside a certain well armed pegasus and one of the former Royal Guards on the expedition, had organized a plan to both wipe out the dogs for good, and acquire a load of money whilst doing so.
Rex was present in Frost's raid on his home, the serpentine Dragon being responsible for numerous deaths of his Diamond dog brethren alongside Forge, Yang, and Silver Wing. Rex was forced to witness his father get effortlessly crushed by a falling rock when a set of explosives were detonated by the raiders, intending on covering their exit as well as destroying the diamond dog hole once and for all. After a duel with one of the attackers, the Dragon known as Yang, Rex was wounded and forced to flee further into the mineral-rich depths of the stronghold, leaving behind a vast majority of his riches, weapons 1 and most importantly, his home - behind, under several tons of rocks and debris.
Originally intending to strike back against the group, whom had since disbanded and gone their separate ways, Rex soon realized that he - and his Dogs - were in no condition whatsoever to organize a counter offensive on them, let alone on anyone for that matter. In addition to this, he was without a father, and his dogs were without a leader. The Dogs had everything that they could use - literal caves full of riches, weapons, and manpower, but could only do so much without a leader. Realizing the severity of their situation, Rex took it upon himself to repair the damage done in the attack, vowing to one day strike back against the dragons that caused him this pain.
Over the next couple of years, the Dogs rebuilt their home, gradually chipping away at the rocks and debris as they grew in size and power over time. To catch up to the ponies above ground, Rex took it upon himself to industrialize the Diamond Dog settlement and learn the ways of modern industry for the benefit of his new home. Fueled by the abundance of natural resources within a literal arm's reach of the dogs, the Diamond Dog industry was kickstarted and sent into overdrive. Very soon, factories began replacing traditional paw-powered labor, while the introduction of a new power grid with electricity and geothermal power (still a work in progress on the latter) allowed the otherwise dark underground to be lit up with a new, bright source of energy. Most importantly, however, these factories proved to be excellent production sites for weapons, armor, and other military appliances, which Rex saw use of in the form of the Diamondgrad Defense Force (DDF), the stronghold's first organized volunteer militia which served as a defense force against any further Dragon or otherwise pursue threats. At the head of the DDF, of course, was Rex, who seemed more adamant about seeing to the creation of a unified Diamond Dog community, rather than just a "more organized group of bandits and miners."
As of the beginning of Equestria Divided, the stronghold, officially dubbed the Community of Diamondgrad, has extended beyond its previously-established borders set the debris and reclaimed the caverns it had held before the massive collapse, and for the most part has sustained itself on its own without major external help. However, Rex wanted more from his community. He wanted a self-sustaining "nation" that all of Diamond Dogkind could live in to be recognized on the international scale. He wanted a nation, not just a pack, to call his home and everyone else's home, and most importantly, he wanted the world dominated by the ponies to know just how successful a settlement like this, let alone led by Diamond Dogs, could be. While many of the dogs in Diamondgrad are reluctant to the idea of a nation like this ever existing, Rex and the DDF think otherwise, and have instead prepared a document that no one - neither pony, nor griffon, nor changeling - would ever expect coming from the Diamond Dogs:
A unilateral declaration of independence.
9. Personality: Being a Diamond Dog, Rex of course has a natural obsession with shiny things - jewels, Diamonds, weapons, gold, and especially gold. Rex suffers somewhat from a hoarding mentality - if he sees something of interest, he feels the impulse to take it and keep it in his hoard, be it nobody's possession or someone else's possession. Regardless, Rex also has a natural mentality to stick with his pack - he has a very close bond with all of the Diamond Dogs living with him in Diamondgrad, especially as the de facto leader of the new settlement. As leader, Rex takes full responsibility and considers all of the dogs under him a member of his family rather than just some cog in a machine, and will do the best to protect them even if it calls for making a few sacrifices. Of course, his hoarding mentality can often take priority over his leadership, but rarely does it now that the settlement is officially up and running.
10. How do you foresee your character contributing to the RP? Be specific, but don’t give away too much. As an unrecognized state (like Rhodesia), I see that Diamondgrad may possibly be the focus of a few minor debates and discussions on the larger political scale in Equestria as it slowly gains importance over time - with all the new countries and powers forming in the RP, I expect they'd take the existence of an organized settlement like this, let alone led by armed Diamond Dogs, very seriously, especially given how fast is has grown. With Rex being virtually the only figure of importance in Diamondgrad to the outsiders he'll most definitely be the focal point of many of these discussions and debates, but for the most part I see Rex contributing to the further development of Diamondgrad not just as a settlement, but its own self-sustaining country in the end. If war breaks out, he'll be neutral unless otherwise specified.
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I certify that I have read and understood the Background, Flutters’ Eleven Commandments, and Fren’s Corollary Principles. I agree to abide by the letter and spirit of the terms of the Commandments and the Principles, and understand that violation of the Commandments or Principles may risk my character(s) being ejected from the RP. (To certify, please link (URL only) to a picture of Pinkie Pie in the space below.)
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Nocturniica wrote:Who knows, someponies may wonder what really happened and if the media was being honest... maybe some ponies would go crazy and start thinking everyone is secretly a changeling!
XDD
Okay maybe not... or... would they...
by Ippeia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:52 pm
by Frenequesta » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:57 pm
Ippeia wrote:Or what about an ancient magical superweapon and various of the Equestrian Nations (and some non-Equestrian as well) rushing to find it?
((Optional Plot Twist: the weapon ends up destroyed at the end))
by Frenequesta » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:05 pm
Ippeia wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of some object left-off of the Pre-Discordian Era or before. Mostly because upgrading the elements might alter the balance of power too much from the beginning
by Ippeia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:11 pm
Frenequesta wrote:I didn't quite mean improving the old artifacts (which are already locked up sustaining Princess Twilight's "kingdom"), but creating new ones. Though the way I describe them, you do have a point...
by Fascist Russian Empire » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:17 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Attacking the Sand Changelings will be no easy feat in fact because they have heavily fortified their mounds with death traps and have sentries hiding in the sand for surprise attack. Not to mention how extremely militant they have become. In the end, it should be failure.
Ippeia wrote:All of this talk on Changelings DOES give me an idea for a plot that could de-stabilize Lethe for a bit, and re-ignite conflict in Former Equestria
What if some particularly radical groups in the Temple began furthering a heavier level of theocracy by levying accusations of being a changeling or aiding them against those that don't follow the Vision? How would other nations react? If this idea is approved, I have one or two ideas for characters within said plot...
Also, does Phillip have any opposition among the Griffins other than Guto-Loyalists? that could make for another interesting plot.
Or what about an ancient magical superweapon and various of the Equestrian Nations (and some non-Equestrian as well) rushing to find it?
((Optional Plot Twist: the weapon ends up destroyed at the end))
by Ippeia » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:28 pm
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Well, as for the Temple plot, I'm a bit mixed on it. While the Temple does have a habit of extreme violence against changeling-sympathizers, they haven't really been particularly hostile to non-believers; they'll target Peacekeepers (a pro-changeling religious sect) and alicorn-worshipers freely, but that's entirely based on those groups supporting the enemy. The All-Maker tolerates most other religions, though obviously the Temple is given preferential treatment; if people started wildly throwing around accusations of changeling-sympathy based on non-affiliation with the Temple, it would likely end with the All-Maker addressing the issue and putting a swift stop to it (and since he is the God of the Temple, obviously everyone would listen to him).
And, finally, as for magical superweapons, well, I was actually planning on having a similar plotline. As I hinted at in the previous thread, the All-Maker's only weakness is an ancient magical artifact (kind of like Nightmare Moon...and Discord...and King Sombra...and Tirek...) which has been lost to the ages; I was planning on a rather important plot based around people scrambling to find it (with the Temple wanting to secure it and prevent it from being used against the All-Maker, and Celestia wanting to find it and use it as a weapon against the Temple).
by Eqqus » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:39 pm
Frenequesta wrote:I'd prefer to get the IC started within the next two weeks, but that of course depends on whether those required characters will be taken or not.
Not listing the earth ponies' strength was an oversight on my part. (What episode was that, by the way? I can't recall off the top of my head.)
by Frenequesta » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:23 am
Eqqus wrote:Also, don't forget cutie mark magic. Every race of pony can perform feats that are almost impossible when it has to do with their cutie mark. Of course, this only happens when said pony is being true to themselves. But it is a significant part of magic in the MLP canon, and it has been since the start of the show. (If you need, I can give examples.)
Of course, you can choose to ignore that kind of magic, and just go with the normal "this pony is good at this" version if you feel the other wouldn't fit in with this RP.
by The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:46 am
by Turmenista » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:55 am
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:24 am
The Flutterlands wrote:But I have my own plans for the Sand Changelings. I don't want them attacked. Not yet...
Still, they will perfectly use the environment to their advantage.
by The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:47 am
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:04 am
The Flutterlands wrote:Not really...
Why would they want to attack the Sand Changelings anyway? What's to gain? Not to mention there's many factors that could make it a failure.
by The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:40 am
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:Not really...
Why would they want to attack the Sand Changelings anyway? What's to gain? Not to mention there's many factors that could make it a failure.
What do you mean "why do they want to do it?" It's been very clearly and very strongly established that the ToV's official stance on changelings is to endorse the complete and total extermination of all changelings. They've clearly and consistently declared their goal to eradicate the changeling race, and have actively been trying to achieve that goal (launching many attacks against changelings). Waging war on the sand changelings would be completely consistent with their previous rhetoric and actions; hell, they were even making preparations to do it in the last thread. Wiping out the changelings has always been their number one goal.
As for what they have to gain, well, beyond the satisfaction from fulfilling their dreams of genocide, the destruction of the sand changelings would actually be an extremely valuable act from a tactical and strategic standpoint. Having a large group of militaristic changelings in and around the borders of Lethe would pose an immense threat, as they would likely attack the Letheans in the event of a war between the Kingdom and the Diarchy; exterminating them would eliminate the threat and preemptively stop the creation of an extra front in the event of war with Celestia.
by Nocturniica » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:47 am
Ippeia wrote:All of this talk on Changelings DOES give me an idea for a plot that could de-stabilize Lethe for a bit, and re-ignite conflict in Former Equestria
What if some particularly radical groups in the Temple began furthering a heavier level of theocracy by levying accusations of being a changeling or aiding them against those that don't follow the Vision? How would other nations react? If this idea is approved, I have one or two ideas for characters within said plot...
Also, does Phillip have any opposition among the Griffins other than Guto-Loyalists? that could make for another interesting plot.
Or what about an ancient magical superweapon and various of the Equestrian Nations (and some non-Equestrian as well) rushing to find it?
((Optional Plot Twist: the weapon ends up destroyed at the end))
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:06 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Well, ether way, it shouldn't be successful being a blood bath for both sides.
Nocturniica wrote:I GOT IT!
The Gryphon king declares ___ to be his successor, because... either the Gryphon king is secretly very ill, or he just feels like getting it out of the way.
THEN Sigvard and his band try to think of a way to either befriend the future successor, or kill him and the king. Of course, they can't just attack the king, they'll have to plan it out and get more friends with them... but if they can befriend the successor, then they may not have to fight the king themselves--the successor could help them out, or just abdicate when the king dies or something.
Oh boy, I'm getting ideas now!!
by Nocturniica » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:22 pm
Monarchies typically have predetermined lines of succession; it's rather unorthodox for a monarch to personally choose their successor. The only exceptions to the rule would be either a monarch with no relatives to inherit his titles or an elective monarchy. If King Philip were to die, his oldest brother would inherit the throne by right of traditional primogeniture succession.
by Novaya Equestria » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:27 am
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