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Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:35 amby The Flutterlands
Frenequesta wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:So, will changelings be invited to the summit?
They might. Diamondgrad is near sand changeling territory after all.
Will Twilight be organizing this or will Celestia?
What do you want? Cause I've been wanting to do some slice of life with the children. Also, Spot would be sixteen, meaning that he'd be still living with Twilight.
Posted:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:44 amby Frenequesta
The Flutterlands wrote:Frenequesta wrote:They might. Diamondgrad is near sand changeling territory after all.
Will Twilight be organizing this or will Celestia?
What do you want? Cause I've been wanting to do some slice of life with the children. Also, Spot would be sixteen, meaning that he'd be still living with Twilight.
I think it's more appropriate for Celestia to call the summit, since it's a political and not a strictly friendship matter.
We can definitely do a little slice of life to get everyone to introduce themselves before Rex declares Diamondgrad independent.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:11 amby Fascist Russian Empire
The Flutterlands wrote:So, will changelings be invited to the summit?
That sounds like a great way to get the anti-changeling delegates to boycott the summit and refuse to attend.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 amby The Flutterlands
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:So, will changelings be invited to the summit?
That sounds like a great way to get the anti-changeling delegates to boycott the summit and refuse to attend.
Well, guess what, if they're going to be talking about the 'changeling problem' then the changelings should be able to have a say and the all delegates should listen, otherwise they'll just prove themselves as a bunch of petty cowards.
Posted:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:00 pmby Frenequesta
The Flutterlands wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:That sounds like a great way to get the anti-changeling delegates to boycott the summit and refuse to attend.
Well, guess what, if they're going to be talking about the 'changeling problem' then the changelings should be able to have a say and the all delegates should listen, otherwise they'll just prove themselves as a bunch of petty cowards.
To be fair, Lethe is probably going to do their own thing regardless. It's not a big loss if they don't show up.
Although... if the point of the summit is really Diamondgrad, and the only ones directly affected are the sand changelings, who are isolationist anyway, why would changelings come?
Posted:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:02 pmby The Flutterlands
Frenequesta wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:Well, guess what, if they're going to be talking about the 'changeling problem' then the changelings should be able to have a say and the all delegates should listen, otherwise they'll just prove themselves as a bunch of petty cowards.
To be fair, Lethe is probably going to do their own thing regardless. It's not a big loss if they don't show up.
Although... if the point of the summit is really Diamondgrad, and the only ones directly affected are the sand changelings, who are isolationist anyway, why would changelings come?
Because Changeling colonies are pretty much in all mountains and caves at this point, but I see your point.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:13 pmby Fascist Russian Empire
The Flutterlands wrote:Well, guess what, if they're going to be talking about the 'changeling problem' then the changelings should be able to have a say and the all delegates should listen, otherwise they'll just prove themselves as a bunch of petty cowards.
That's not really how real life works. Would you expect Nazis and Zionists, or Jihadists and Christian Zealots, or black supremacists and white supremacists to sit at a table together and reasonably discuss something? People have a tendency to avoid discourse with their ideological opposition, especially when they have a fundamental and zealous disdain for said opposition. It's not realistic to expect the anti-changeling wing of Equestrian politics to be willing to attend a meeting with their mortal enemies, and even if they did it would inevitably end in a dysfunctional mess with nothing getting accomplished as the two ideological groups involved would both despite one another and support mutually exclusive policies.
If Celestia wants to diplomatically reach out to Cloudsdale, or to Lethe, or to the Northeast Confederation, all of which are distinctly anti-changeling nations, she's going to have a far easier time if she doesn't actively surround herself with changelings. It's really going to be far better to have the summit be exclusively for the Equestrian states; if the changelings got involved, it would be far less likely that said states would be willing to agree to the summit in the first place.
Frenequesta wrote:To be fair, Lethe is probably going to do their own thing regardless. It's not a big loss if they don't show up.
Although... if the point of the summit is really Diamondgrad, and the only ones directly affected are the sand changelings, who are isolationist anyway, why would changelings come?
I would assume the main focus would be on a more important issue. If it were just about a tiny new city state in the far south, chances are most governments, especially the northern ones like the Crystal Empire, would not be anywhere near concerned enough to want an international meeting about it.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:19 pmby Ippeia
What if a non-Equestrian state summoned a meeting not as a response to, but as a way to prevent a crisis? probably tensions are already mounting and foreign players want to keep the whole thing from blowing up?
Posted:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:26 pmby Fascist Russian Empire
Ippeia wrote:What if a non-Equestrian state summoned a meeting not as a response to, but as a way to prevent a crisis? probably tensions are already mounting and foreign players want to keep the whole thing from blowing up?
We've also still got my idea of starting the IC with Cold-War treaties instead of an international summit; that idea seems to be pretty agreeable with everyone. Having both sides hold their own exclusive meetings sounds like a much more solid way to start things off, I'd say, since it's not only more likely that the ponies involved would agree to meet with like-minded leaders but it would also have a stronger reason behind why they're meeting (which is to create international blocs to protect their respective agendas, a reason which I feel would be more internationally important than the issue of Diamondgrad).
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:02 pmby The Flutterlands
When will we get an IC?
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 pmby Frenequesta
The Flutterlands wrote:When will we get an IC?
I'll start working on it tonight; should be up Tuesday night at the earliest.
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:24 pmby Nocturniica
HOLD THE DRAGONS,
Where is Discord in all this? What does he think of the All-Maker?
...just curious. And boy I'm excited about the IC coming up
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:31 pmby Frenequesta
Nocturniica wrote:HOLD THE DRAGONS,
Where is Discord in all this? What does he think of the All-Maker?
...just curious. And boy I'm excited about the IC coming up
It was a forgivable oversight for Celestia not to call Discord to address the Temple the first time.
In retrospect, it was for the best. He's probably just still having tea with Fluttershy.
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:42 pmby The Flutterlands
And why can't Discord just fix all our problems?
Also, I have had thoughts of Celestia locking Changelings and anti-changeling leaders in a room and not letting them out till they make a peace agreement.
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:46 pmby Nocturniica
1. Name: D i S c oR D
10. How do you foresee your character contributing to the RP? Be specific, but don’t give away too much. ... This is Discord we are talking about. One does not simply predict what Discord will do XDDD
I certify that I have read and understood the Background, Flutters’ Eleven Commandments, and Fren’s Corollary Principles. I agree to abide by the letter and spirit of the terms of the Commandments and the Principles, and understand that violation of the Commandments or Principles may risk my character(s) being ejected from the RP. (To certify, please link (URL only) to a picture of Pinkie Pie in the space below.)
I must be Discord now!!! If there is no Discord, I shall be him!!! Please?
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:58 pmby Nocturniica
The Flutterlands wrote:And why can't Discord just fix all our problems?
Also, I have had thoughts of Celestia locking Changelings and anti-changeling leaders in a room and not letting them out till they make a peace agreement.
First: Discord has chaos magic, which would probably make disharmony worse, not help to bring about peace and harmony.
Secondly, I think the idea of Celestia locking up the leaders in a room is hilarious XDDD
Seriously though, don't get that mare mad!
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:02 pmby Frenequesta
Nocturniica wrote:I must be Discord now!!! If there is no Discord, I shall be him!!! Please?
TAke hIm. I like seeing canon characters taken.
The Flutterlands wrote:And why can't Discord just fix all our problems?
Also, I have had thoughts of Celestia locking Changelings and anti-changeling leaders in a room and not letting them out till they make a peace agreement.
If FRE is as insistent as he is, that's going to end in blood seeping out of the room.
Also, what business does Celestia have ordering two countries around? She's not the head of a world government; not even the President of the United States can just force two countries to engage in diplomacy.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:04 pmby Fascist Russian Empire
The Flutterlands wrote:And why can't Discord just fix all our problems?
Also, I have had thoughts of Celestia locking Changelings and anti-changeling leaders in a room and not letting them out till they make a peace agreement.
Well, to quote King Theoden from Lord of the Rings:
"You have no power here!"
The All-Maker uses the same kind of magic that Discord does; any action by Discord would be met by an equal reaction by the All-Maker.
And even if Celestia could magically teleport the All-Maker and all the changeling rulers into the same room, it probably wouldn't end well for the changelings, on account of having a genocidal anti-changeling demigod right next to high-ranking changeling nobility.
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:25 pmby The Flutterlands
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:And why can't Discord just fix all our problems?
Also, I have had thoughts of Celestia locking Changelings and anti-changeling leaders in a room and not letting them out till they make a peace agreement.
Well, to quote King Theoden from Lord of the Rings:
"You have no power here!"
The All-Maker uses the same kind of magic that Discord does; any action by Discord would be met by an equal reaction by the All-Maker.
And even if Celestia could magically teleport the All-Maker and all the changeling rulers into the same room, it probably wouldn't end well for the changelings, on account of having a genocidal anti-changeling demigod right next to high-ranking changeling nobility.
Then the solution is to get All-Maker out of the picture?
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:31 pmby Fascist Russian Empire
The Flutterlands wrote:Then the solution is to get All-Maker out of the picture?
Like I said in my All-Maker application, he is probably the number one obstacle blocking the pro-changeling agenda and the prospect of Celestia being able to reunify Equestria. If Celestia wants a unified, pro-changeling Equestria, it'll be pretty important for her to find a way to either violently pacify the All-Maker or convince him to change his mind about the changeling issue; until one of those things is done, Celestia's goals are going to be hard to achieve, as the All-Maker and the KoL will actively seek to stop her agenda.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:49 pmby Nocturniica
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:Then the solution is to get All-Maker out of the picture?
Like I said in my All-Maker application, he is probably the number one obstacle blocking the pro-changeling agenda and the prospect of Celestia being able to reunify Equestria. If Celestia wants a unified, pro-changeling Equestria, it'll be pretty important for her to find a way to either violently pacify the All-Maker or convince him to change his mind about the changeling issue; until one of those things is done, Celestia's goals are going to be hard to achieve, as the All-Maker and the KoL will actively seek to stop her agenda.
well then, we shall have to introduce the All-Maker to the power of FRIENDSHIP!
Because... *waits for it*
....
FRIENDSHIP
IS
MAGIC!!!
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:00 pmby Fascist Russian Empire
Nocturniica wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Like I said in my All-Maker application, he is probably the number one obstacle blocking the pro-changeling agenda and the prospect of Celestia being able to reunify Equestria. If Celestia wants a unified, pro-changeling Equestria, it'll be pretty important for her to find a way to either violently pacify the All-Maker or convince him to change his mind about the changeling issue; until one of those things is done, Celestia's goals are going to be hard to achieve, as the All-Maker and the KoL will actively seek to stop her agenda.
well then, we shall have to introduce the All-Maker to the power of FRIENDSHIP!
Because... *waits for it*
....
FRIENDSHIP
IS
MAGIC!!!
Posted:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:03 pmby The Flutterlands
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nocturniica wrote:well then, we shall have to introduce the All-Maker to the power of FRIENDSHIP!
Because... *waits for it*
....
FRIENDSHIP
IS
MAGIC!!!
Well, I mean we could just give him a taste of the neo-elements, or whatever we call what the Mane Six uses nowadays...
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:57 amby Nocturniica
The Flutterlands wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Well, I mean we could just give him a taste of the neo-elements, or whatever we call what the Mane Six uses nowadays...
*ahem* Sorry, had to do that XD
For real though... maybe that's how the RP ends? The All-Maker finally settles down and promotes peace?
It would be hard, but I think it'd be a good ending.
((And honestly, this is a MLP thread, we have to say "friendship is Magic" at least once, right? XD ))
Posted:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:57 pmby Ippeia
1. Name: Anaxippos
2. Species: Pegasus
3. Sex: Male
4. Residence: Coltstantinople
5. Occupation: Crown Prince of the Ippeian Empire
6. Appearance: A Copper-furred pegasus with brown mane and tail and gren eyes
7. Cutie mark: A Crowned Dove with a laurel on its talon
8. Bio (two paragraphs minimum): Anaxippos was born in the Purple Room of the Imperial Palace, as custom for the foals of the Emperor. Being the crown prince, he did not grow up in the luxury one would think he would have had when growing up, having had a rather spartan upbringing. His foalhood was simple, teaching and an austere (for a Crown Prince) life.
Upon his coming of age, as is tradition in his family, he enlisted in the Ippeian Navy under a fake name. As Akakios he participated in some combat against the Saddle-Arabian Navy during an incident between the two nations. His time of service under this name finished a year ago.
Since then, he has been dedicated mostly to court duty, being more of a negotiator than a schemer, he has already build a power base (as is custom) in the Ippeian Court, in preparation to take the throne upon his father's death.
9. Personality: Anaxippos is a rather friendly stallion, or at least it appears so to those he is close to. He has also brokered some truces between different court factions, and it's believed that he will be able to conduct foreign diplomacy in an... advantageous... manner.
10. How do you foresee your character contributing to the RP? Be specific, but don’t give away too much. He might be the more visible face of the Empire on their interactions with Equestria and the Post-Equestrian states.
11. Please certify the following statement (not necessary if this is not your first application):
I certify that I have read and understood the Background, Flutters’ Eleven Commandments, and Fren’s Corollary Principles. I agree to abide by the letter and spirit of the terms of the Commandments and the Principles, and understand that violation of the Commandments or Principles may risk my character(s) being ejected from the RP. (To certify, please link (URL only) to a picture of Pinkie Pie in the space below.)
