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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:38 pm

Ippeia wrote:May I ask someone to brief me on what have the mane 6 been up to? maybe I'll take one of them but I'm not sure lol

Applejack had a romantic relationship with a former griffin mercenary about ten years ago, but I don't know if that relationship is still going on. Princess Twilight, of course, has been mediating friendship problems from her castle for the past ten years.

Otherwise, there hasn't really been anything significant that the Mane 6 have done that may have already happened in canon. We've had some difficulty in the last two RPs getting the other members of the Mane 6 significantly involved in the events.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:53 pm

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Nocturniica wrote:OKay back to how to start the IC, what about just a diplomatic event? No attacks, kidnappings, or disease. Just something involving diplomacy.

Like Rex and the Diamond dogs declaring independence, like that one person suggested.

Or maybe a new trade agreement between two nations.

Something like that to just get the leaders talking. It'll give us a starting point and help us get ideas for what to do next.

I was thinking about Twilight Sparkle (or Celestia) inviting the leaders of the new nations to some sort of summit. We can definitely do that and then have the sand changeling attack or whatnot interrupting it.

What exactly would the summit be about; what would they be discussing? The only two issues of international importance in Equestria at the present point in time that I can think of are the changeling issue and the matter of Equestrian reunification, the former of which would most likely be considered non-negotiable by most of the leaders involved, and if the summit was just Celestia trying to annex the other Equestrian states, chances are most of them wouldn't even bother to show up.

If there was a good motivator behind why the leaders of Equestria are convening, it would be a pretty decent idea.

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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:28 pm

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Frenequesta wrote:I was thinking about Twilight Sparkle (or Celestia) inviting the leaders of the new nations to some sort of summit. We can definitely do that and then have the sand changeling attack or whatnot interrupting it.

What exactly would the summit be about; what would they be discussing? The only two issues of international importance in Equestria at the present point in time that I can think of are the changeling issue and the matter of Equestrian reunification, the former of which would most likely be considered non-negotiable by most of the leaders involved, and if the summit was just Celestia trying to annex the other Equestrian states, chances are most of them wouldn't even bother to show up.

If there was a good motivator behind why the leaders of Equestria are convening, it would be a pretty decent idea.

Those, or, as Nocturniica suggested, a trade agreement or dealing with Diamondgrad. If Diamondgrad though, the countries would likely be limited to Lethe and Equestrian and maybe Sierra Palomino, but it would still be a summit of sorts.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:32 pm

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Frenequesta wrote:I was thinking about Twilight Sparkle (or Celestia) inviting the leaders of the new nations to some sort of summit. We can definitely do that and then have the sand changeling attack or whatnot interrupting it.

What exactly would the summit be about; what would they be discussing? The only two issues of international importance in Equestria at the present point in time that I can think of are the changeling issue and the matter of Equestrian reunification, the former of which would most likely be considered non-negotiable by most of the leaders involved, and if the summit was just Celestia trying to annex the other Equestrian states, chances are most of them wouldn't even bother to show up.

If there was a good motivator behind why the leaders of Equestria are convening, it would be a pretty decent idea.

What is the Changeling issue? Aside from rights, of course...
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Postby Turmenista » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:37 pm

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That could be an opportunity for Rex's UDI to be heard by everyone, so I'm down for that option.




Wait, people like this idea? HUZZAH! We finally agree on something!


Also, I was thinking, since Symphonia wants Equestria re-united, maybe she would try talking to leaders about that, so that will also give us something to talk about, if things get slow or something.

And I also would love to do some interaction with Rex and Symphonia. I think it would be fascinating to see how they interact. She would want to personally go to Diamondgrad to see if it really is civilized, and if she does like it, she may be the first to acknowledge it as a real nation.


Just something I thought of the other day, but I'm not 100% sure how that would go down just yet. So for the person who does Rex, just make note of that... sound good?


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Postby Ippeia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:43 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:I was thinking about Twilight Sparkle (or Celestia) inviting the leaders of the new nations to some sort of summit. We can definitely do that and then have the sand changeling attack or whatnot interrupting it.

What exactly would the summit be about; what would they be discussing? The only two issues of international importance in Equestria at the present point in time that I can think of are the changeling issue and the matter of Equestrian reunification, the former of which would most likely be considered non-negotiable by most of the leaders involved, and if the summit was just Celestia trying to annex the other Equestrian states, chances are most of them wouldn't even bother to show up.

If there was a good motivator behind why the leaders of Equestria are convening, it would be a pretty decent idea.


What if the summit begins due to the Diamongrad declaration of independence and the leaders are invited to see how will they deal with it? (Rex included)

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Postby Ippeia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:44 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Ippeia wrote:May I ask someone to brief me on what have the mane 6 been up to? maybe I'll take one of them but I'm not sure lol

Applejack had a romantic relationship with a former griffin mercenary about ten years ago, but I don't know if that relationship is still going on. Princess Twilight, of course, has been mediating friendship problems from her castle for the past ten years.

Otherwise, there hasn't really been anything significant that the Mane 6 have done that may have already happened in canon. We've had some difficulty in the last two RPs getting the other members of the Mane 6 significantly involved in the events.


And thanks

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:47 pm

Frenequesta wrote:Those, or, as Nocturniica suggested, a trade agreement or dealing with Diamondgrad. If Diamondgrad though, the countries would likely be limited to Lethe and Equestrian and maybe Sierra Palomino, but it would still be a summit of sorts.

I was under the impression that Diamondgrad wasn't going to become publicly known until after the IC started; that they exist at the present time, but the rest of the world is unaware of their presence. It wouldn't really make a lot of sense to start off with a summit about Diamondgrad when the world is ignorant of their existence, though that idea could be saved for something to do after the IC starts.

Perhaps it would be a solid idea to have the IC start off with the creation of Cold-War style alliance blocs, with Celestia and the other pro-changeling rulers creating a bloc of nations in favor of changeling-integration, whereas Letum and the other anti-changeling rulers create a bloc of nations dedicated to the annihilation of the changeling race. The IC could begin with separate meetings between said pro-changeling leaders and said anti-changeling leaders, and the signing of alliance treaties based around ideological grounds. I think it would be a pretty good way to open things up and create some diplomatic conflict.
Ippeia wrote:What if the summit begins due to the Diamongrad declaration of independence and the leaders are invited to see how will they deal with it? (Rex included)

I suppose I wouldn't have any objections, although it doesn't seem like it would be a particularly pressing international issue, especially to the far-northern countries like the Crystal Empire who wouldn't be anywhere near the diamond dogs.

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Postby Ippeia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:54 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:Those, or, as Nocturniica suggested, a trade agreement or dealing with Diamondgrad. If Diamondgrad though, the countries would likely be limited to Lethe and Equestrian and maybe Sierra Palomino, but it would still be a summit of sorts.

I was under the impression that Diamondgrad wasn't going to become publicly known until after the IC started; that they exist at the present time, but the rest of the world is unaware of their presence. It wouldn't really make a lot of sense to start off with a summit about Diamondgrad when the world is ignorant of their existence, though that idea could be saved for something to do after the IC starts.

Perhaps it would be a solid idea to have the IC start off with the creation of Cold-War style alliance blocs, with Celestia and the other pro-changeling rulers creating a bloc of nations in favor of changeling-integration, whereas Letum and the other anti-changeling rulers create a bloc of nations dedicated to the annihilation of the changeling race. The IC could begin with separate meetings between said pro-changeling leaders and said anti-changeling leaders, and the signing of alliance treaties based around ideological grounds. I think it would be a pretty good way to open things up and create some diplomatic conflict.
Ippeia wrote:What if the summit begins due to the Diamongrad declaration of independence and the leaders are invited to see how will they deal with it? (Rex included)

I suppose I wouldn't have any objections, although it doesn't seem like it would be a particularly pressing international issue, especially to the far-northern countries like the Crystal Empire who wouldn't be anywhere near the diamond dogs.


Well, the appearance of a new nation that pretty much no one knew about, in what can become a rather volatile area is bound to change the balance of power...

Although the Cold-War idea is better I must admit

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:35 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:What is the Changeling issue? Aside from rights, of course...

The issue of what the status of changelings in Equestria should be and how the government should deal with the changeling race; the single most important issue in Equestria at the present time. The question of how changelings should be dealt with was the polarizing issue that sparked the civil war and the fragmentation of the Equestrian nation, after all. Coming to a universal agreement on changeling presence in Equestria and what the government's stance towards them should be will be essential for peaceful Equestrian reunification to occur, since violent disagreements over changeling integration are the primary source of separatist sentiment.

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Postby Nocturniica » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:48 pm

I suppose I wouldn't have any objections, although it doesn't seem like it would be a particularly pressing international issue, especially to the far-northern countries like the Crystal Empire who wouldn't be anywhere near the diamond dogs.


Well, the appearance of a new nation that pretty much no one knew about, in what can become a rather volatile area is bound to change the balance of power...

Although the Cold-War idea is better I must admit[/quote]

Honestly, I'm kinda thinking we could do both. After Diamondgrad declares independence, they will probably send somebeast to go and ask for other nations to recognize them, which will lead to international discussions. After that, of course, everyone will want to know where they side: Lethe or Equestria? Anti-Changeling, Pro-Changeling, or somewhere in-between. That could lead to a cold-war style trade embargo alliance or open up new avenues for trade, or all sorts of other things.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:57 pm

Nocturniica wrote:Honestly, I'm kinda thinking we could do both. After Diamondgrad declares independence, they will probably send somebeast to go and ask for other nations to recognize them, which will lead to international discussions. After that, of course, everyone will want to know where they side: Lethe or Equestria? Anti-Changeling, Pro-Changeling, or somewhere in-between. That could lead to a cold-war style trade embargo alliance or open up new avenues for trade, or all sorts of other things.

I approve of this idea; it seems like a solid way to create a decent conflict while remaining consistent to the original story.

If nobody has any objections, I believe this would be a good IC-opener.

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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:13 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Nocturniica wrote:Honestly, I'm kinda thinking we could do both. After Diamondgrad declares independence, they will probably send somebeast to go and ask for other nations to recognize them, which will lead to international discussions. After that, of course, everyone will want to know where they side: Lethe or Equestria? Anti-Changeling, Pro-Changeling, or somewhere in-between. That could lead to a cold-war style trade embargo alliance or open up new avenues for trade, or all sorts of other things.

I approve of this idea; it seems like a solid way to create a decent conflict while remaining consistent to the original story.

If nobody has any objections, I believe this would be a good IC-opener.

I think it's a fine idea myself.
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Postby Turmenista » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:11 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I approve of this idea; it seems like a solid way to create a decent conflict while remaining consistent to the original story.

If nobody has any objections, I believe this would be a good IC-opener.

I think it's a fine idea myself.


As do I. Right now, I'm modeling my open post on that - the unilateral declaration of indpence is issued, while Rex sends envoys out to ask the other nations of Equestria to recognize the country.
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Postby Nocturniica » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:15 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I approve of this idea; it seems like a solid way to create a decent conflict while remaining consistent to the original story.

If nobody has any objections, I believe this would be a good IC-opener.

I think it's a fine idea myself.



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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:30 pm

I like the idea...
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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:44 pm

Turmenista wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:I think it's a fine idea myself.


As do I. Right now, I'm modeling my open post on that - the unilateral declaration of indpence is issued, while Rex sends envoys out to ask the other nations of Equestria to recognize the country.

I suppose in the meantime everyone can do a sort of "slice of life" opening post to establish characters etc.
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Postby Nocturniica » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:52 am

Frenequesta wrote:
Turmenista wrote:
As do I. Right now, I'm modeling my open post on that - the unilateral declaration of indpence is issued, while Rex sends envoys out to ask the other nations of Equestria to recognize the country.

I suppose in the meantime everyone can do a sort of "slice of life" opening post to establish characters etc.



All right, let's do it :D

Just... post the IC whenever you are free, I guess.

And as for Nubes-Synnefo... I guess for now we can just say they are neutral, and since they are living in the clouds, probably most of our characters aren't going to go meet with them just yet anyway.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:12 am

Nocturniica wrote:All right, let's do it :D

Just... post the IC whenever you are free, I guess.

And as for Nubes-Synnefo... I guess for now we can just say they are neutral, and since they are living in the clouds, probably most of our characters aren't going to go meet with them just yet anyway.

I wouldn't exactly describe them as being neutral; Cloudsdale is one of the more anti-changeling locations in Equestria, and, as such, would naturally gravitate towards the Kingdom of Lethe. They also happen to have a pressing lack of economic self-dependency, which would make it important for them to find a wealthy ally to keep them afloat financially. I was actually planning on having them be the first to join Lethe's bloc of nations after the IC starts; it would make sense, after all, since they not only have common ideological grounds but also have a need for economic cooperation.

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Postby Frenequesta » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:59 am

Nocturniica wrote:
Frenequesta wrote:I suppose in the meantime everyone can do a sort of "slice of life" opening post to establish characters etc.



All right, let's do it :D

Just... post the IC whenever you are free, I guess.

And as for Nubes-Synnefo... I guess for now we can just say they are neutral, and since they are living in the clouds, probably most of our characters aren't going to go meet with them just yet anyway.

We still have one person who says he'll have an application by Friday, and another two who need to be nudged. I'll see what plays out with them by tomorrow evening.

As for Nubes-Synnefo--at this rate it's probably best for FRE to take the Chancellor up at this point. But we'll see what falls.
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Postby Ippeia » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:18 am

Welp, in the meantime, Time to add another one of the Mane 6...

1. Name: Fluttershy
10. How do you foresee your character contributing to the RP? Be specific, but don’t give away too much: In case we need some "slice of life" moments... her status as element-bearer might also come into play at some point (admittedly, I'm still thinking on this point)
11. Please certify the following statement (not necessary if this is not your first application):
I certify that I have read and understood the Background, Flutters’ Eleven Commandments, and Fren’s Corollary Principles. I agree to abide by the letter and spirit of the terms of the Commandments and the Principles, and understand that violation of the Commandments or Principles may risk my character(s) being ejected from the RP. (To certify, please link (URL only) to a picture of Pinkie Pie in the space below.)

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Postby Nocturniica » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:02 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Nocturniica wrote:

All right, let's do it :D

Just... post the IC whenever you are free, I guess.

And as for Nubes-Synnefo... I guess for now we can just say they are neutral, and since they are living in the clouds, probably most of our characters aren't going to go meet with them just yet anyway.

We still have one person who says he'll have an application by Friday, and another two who need to be nudged. I'll see what plays out with them by tomorrow evening.

As for Nubes-Synnefo--at this rate it's probably best for FRE to take the Chancellor up at this point. But we'll see what falls.



Ah, I see. I can wait. I am getting excited though. :blush:

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Postby Frenequesta » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:08 pm

Ippeia wrote:Welp, in the meantime, Time to add another one of the Mane 6...

1. Name: Fluttershy
10. How do you foresee your character contributing to the RP? Be specific, but don’t give away too much: In case we need some "slice of life" moments... her status as element-bearer might also come into play at some point (admittedly, I'm still thinking on this point)
11. Please certify the following statement (not necessary if this is not your first application):
I certify that I have read and understood the Background, Flutters’ Eleven Commandments, and Fren’s Corollary Principles. I agree to abide by the letter and spirit of the terms of the Commandments and the Principles, and understand that violation of the Commandments or Principles may risk my character(s) being ejected from the RP. (To certify, please link (URL only) to a picture of Pinkie Pie in the space below.)

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:31 am

So, will changelings be invited to the summit?
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:33 am

The Flutterlands wrote:So, will changelings be invited to the summit?

They might. Diamondgrad is near sand changeling territory after all.

Will Twilight be organizing this or will Celestia?
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