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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon May 22, 2017 9:01 am

Rezina wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:Can we please have an OP or Co-OP ruling on this so that's the end of it?

^^

He's literally ignoring all the valid points and drawing out irrelevant data that can't be applied here.


Ukraine would be better off by this time and here's why. (I created the backstory so I believe I'm qualified in this)

Ukraine since it's liberation has been supported by Germany since WW2. They are an important shipyard manufacturer and economic power in eastern Europe. Romania has been neglected by Germany as they focus their forces and economic prowess elsewhere in the world.
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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:01 am

Chewion wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:Bam case closed, now can we please drop it for the love of god.
The Ukrainian economy can still be close-ish to the Romanians.

Now, Mad Dog Mattis.

Did you fix your app?

Scanning back through the OOC, I can't find any post of you telling me to fix anything.
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:02 am

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Rezina wrote:^^

He's literally ignoring all the valid points and drawing out irrelevant data that can't be applied here.


Ukraine would be better off by this time and here's why. (I created the backstory so I believe I'm qualified in this)

Ukraine since it's liberation has been supported by Germany since WW2. They are an important shipyard manufacturer and economic power in eastern Europe. Romania has been neglected by Germany as they focus their forces and economic prowess elsewhere in the world.

>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon May 22, 2017 9:02 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Apror wrote:Romania from the evidence I've seen.

Bam case closed, now can we please drop it for the love of god.
The Ukrainian economy can still be close-ish to the Romanians.

Now, Mad Dog Mattis.

I wonder who she be concerned.
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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:03 am

Rezina wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:Now, who wants to talk to MAD DOG MATTIS?

Can I be next in line after he's done speaking to the Italians?

Sure.
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Greater Slavic Union
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Mon May 22, 2017 9:03 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
Ukraine would be better off by this time and here's why. (I created the backstory so I believe I'm qualified in this)

Ukraine since it's liberation has been supported by Germany since WW2. They are an important shipyard manufacturer and economic power in eastern Europe. Romania has been neglected by Germany as they focus their forces and economic prowess elsewhere in the world.

>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.


And pretty much ignored Ukraine's superior...
1. Manpower
2. Steel resources
3. Pre-existing industrial structure
4. Grain
5. Water resources
6. Fertile land
7. Gas
And others.


But ok.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon May 22, 2017 9:05 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
Ukraine would be better off by this time and here's why. (I created the backstory so I believe I'm qualified in this)

Ukraine since it's liberation has been supported by Germany since WW2. They are an important shipyard manufacturer and economic power in eastern Europe. Romania has been neglected by Germany as they focus their forces and economic prowess elsewhere in the world.

>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.


I am a Co-OP and simply saying two words and checkmate is a complete bastardization of an argument.

Romania is still in Germany's alliance. America would not focus on Romania, they would focus on their own allies or wooing neutral nations to their side. In all reality they wouldn't give a damn about Romania.
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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:05 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.


And pretty much ignored Ukraine's superior...
1. Manpower
2. Steel resources
3. Pre-existing industrial structure
4. Grain
5. Water resources
6. Fertile land
7. Gas
And others.


But ok.

Yeah and American investment can literally trump that considering Romania isn't too far behind in all of them.
Checkmate.
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:06 am

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.


I am a Co-OP and simply saying two words and checkmate is a complete bastardization of an argument.

Romania is still in Germany's alliance. America would not focus on Romania, they would focus on their own allies or wooing neutral nations to their side. In all reality they wouldn't give a damn about Romania.

Well I did because I want them in my alliance.
Checkmate.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Mon May 22, 2017 9:06 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:>American investment

Checkmate.
Plus, the Co-OP already ruled on it.


And pretty much ignored Ukraine's superior...
1. Manpower
2. Steel resources
3. Pre-existing industrial structure
4. Grain
5. Water resources
6. Fertile land
7. Gas
And others.


But ok.


^^
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:07 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... l_reserves

Romania has more oil than you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... l_reserves

And isn't too far in gas reserves.

It can be trumped.

Checkmate.
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Postby Chewion » Mon May 22, 2017 9:09 am

ENOUGH! Romania and Ukraine shall be equal.
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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon May 22, 2017 9:09 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
I am a Co-OP and simply saying two words and checkmate is a complete bastardization of an argument.

Romania is still in Germany's alliance. America would not focus on Romania, they would focus on their own allies or wooing neutral nations to their side. In all reality they wouldn't give a damn about Romania.

Well I did because I want them in my alliance.
Checkmate.


>I say checkmate so I win!

You don't just change the backstory on your own whim. In all reality the US would not focus their economic forces to help someone in ANOTHER alliance. Why in the hell would they support another military alliance?

I'm going to shut this down and say Ukraine has a better economy.
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:09 am

Chewion wrote:ENOUGH! Romania and Ukraine shall be equal.

Meh. OP's word is law, so.
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Rezina
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Postby Rezina » Mon May 22, 2017 9:10 am

Holy shit... I go to grab a sandwich and this happens...

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon May 22, 2017 9:10 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Chewion wrote:Did you fix your app?

Scanning back through the OOC, I can't find any post of you telling me to fix anything.

No Military Junta.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 am

Laeuwen wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

Romania has more oil than you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... l_reserves

And isn't too far in gas reserves.

It can be trumped.

Checkmate.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... ommodities

Get rekt
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

Romania has more oil than you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... l_reserves

And isn't too far in gas reserves.

It can be trumped.

Checkmate.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... ommodities

Get rekt

Chewion wrote:ENOUGH! Romania and Ukraine shall be equal.

Get counter-rekt lol.
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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:13 am

Rezina wrote:Holy shit... I go to grab a sandwich and this happens...

Welcome to NationStates, enjoy your stay.
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Postby Apror » Mon May 22, 2017 9:13 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Rezina wrote:Holy shit... I go to grab a sandwich and this happens...

Welcome to NationStates, enjoy your stay.

We get lit.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Mon May 22, 2017 9:14 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Laeuwen wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

Romania has more oil than you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... l_reserves

And isn't too far in gas reserves.

It can be trumped.

Checkmate.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... ommodities

Get rekt


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... production

Again better off :P

I am just anwering you right now because I was loading these pages all this time.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Chewion » Mon May 22, 2017 9:14 am

Varra Switzerland is not in an alliance. Time to have "Swiss troops" attack my border town somewhere.
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Laeuwen
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Postby Laeuwen » Mon May 22, 2017 9:15 am

Chewion wrote:ENOUGH! Romania and Ukraine shall be equal.

Counter-rekt [2]
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon May 22, 2017 9:15 am

Chewion wrote:Varra Switzerland is not in an alliance. Time to have "Swiss troops" attack my border town somewhere.

We're Anschlussing the Netherlands. Shiiiiiit,
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3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Mon May 22, 2017 9:16 am

Laeuwen wrote:
Chewion wrote:ENOUGH! Romania and Ukraine shall be equal.

Counter-rekt [2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... production

This is the last, as it was the last to load.

So.

Steel, Gas, Food, Coal, Population: Ukraine > Romania
Oil: Romania < Ukraine
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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