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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Thu May 25, 2017 9:20 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Wow... that's scary...



Which ever was pro-Russia.


Generally, the Emperor was specifically pro-Russian. But nothing is stopping the rebels from being pro-Russian as well. The difference in attitude is likely to be towards Germany. The Emperor is pro-German while the rebels are anti-German.

Pierre de Napoléon might decide against helping the rebels once this overthrow maybe reaches the Chief of the French State's ears, he might want to go full authoritative and march men across Italy and see what happens, or I could just have some promotion hungry general lead a force across the french-Italian boarder while the conference is going on, that'd be awkward.
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Postby NewLakotah » Thu May 25, 2017 9:24 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Then, I guess we would wait and see to which side the rebels fell. However, we would probably generally support the Rebels, over the emperor, unless the rebels took a hard anti-Russia slant.


I cant really see Greece enjoying the Russians more than the Germans considering they were basically a german puppet for roughly 50 years and are still really close friends with them. If anything, I could see either a rouge state happening, or something else entirely.

well... the "close friendship" is fading a bit, and was never really embraced by the Russian people. But yeah, they were a Germany puppet, hence why we would support the side that gave any indication they would be pro-Russian first, over being pro-Germany.
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Thu May 25, 2017 9:26 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Then, I guess we would wait and see to which side the rebels fell. However, we would probably generally support the Rebels, over the emperor, unless the rebels took a hard anti-Russia slant.


I cant really see Greece enjoying the Russians more than the Germans considering they were basically a german puppet for roughly 50 years and are still really close friends with them. If anything, I could see either a rouge state happening, or something else entirely.


Historically and culturally, Greece has more in common with Russia and has had a positive relationship with Russia. Germany's relationship to Greece has been quite negative throughout history. Emperor Basil will escape Athens (my next post) and flee to Crete. He will successfully maintain the Greek islands and northern Greece (Makedonia and Thrace) while the rebels will take Attica (Athens and the surrounding area) and the Peloponnese. Emperor Basil will probably ask Germany to help restore him, and I could see the rebels aligning themselves to any nation that wishes to challenge Germany's hegemony in the region (Japan perhaps? or the United States?). That's where I'm going with this.

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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Thu May 25, 2017 9:30 pm

Apror wrote:Latin Countries, want me to start the meeting now?

If you want
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Thu May 25, 2017 9:35 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
I cant really see Greece enjoying the Russians more than the Germans considering they were basically a german puppet for roughly 50 years and are still really close friends with them. If anything, I could see either a rouge state happening, or something else entirely.


Historically and culturally, Greece has more in common with Russia and has had a positive relationship with Russia. Germany's relationship to Greece has been quite negative throughout history. Emperor Basil will escape Athens (my next post) and flee to Crete. He will successfully maintain the Greek islands and northern Greece (Makedonia and Thrace) while the rebels will take Attica (Athens and the surrounding area) and the Peloponnese. Emperor Basil will probably ask Germany to help restore him, and I could see the rebels aligning themselves to any nation that wishes to challenge Germany's hegemony in the region (Japan perhaps? or the United States?). That's where I'm going with this.

And so the Latin Alliance has lost a member.....well I guess I joined soon enough to be a replacement
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Thu May 25, 2017 9:40 pm

I know I've triple posted, but consider that the events in the 3 posts happen within 24 hours of each other.

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Postby Genyulan » Fri May 26, 2017 4:18 am

Genyulan wrote:NS name: Genyulan
IC Name: Republic of Venezuela
Government type: Federal Republic
Population: 35,776,000
Capital: Caracas
Leader: María Corina Machado
Position/title: President
Age: 49
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Yup. She is real. She is part of the Come Venezuela Party irl, a libertarian/classical liberal party. And this
Active Duty military: 360,000
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Tanks: 720
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Destroyers: 34
Cruisers: 18
Submarines: 67
Helicopters: 840
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Attack Aircraft (Includes bombers): 980
Nukes (Just yes or no will do): no
One paragraph History of your nation: The Republic of Venezuela remains the same up until the 1970s, where the socialist revolution fails to take place. Venezuela remains a heavily capitalist, free market country with strong ties to the United States as well as other Latin countries. This has resulted in a very rich Venezuela, with an economy of over one trillion.
One paragraph history of your leader: Joined the military at age 19, fresh out of high school. Stayed in the military for 5 years. Began her political career when she became the presidential campaign manager of Henrique Salas Römer in the 1996 election (Age 29). Became mayor of Valencia at age 33 in 2000, reelected in 2004 at age 37. Became governor of Carabobo in 2008 at age 41. Ran for resident in 2012, losing to Henrique Capriles who ran on the Popular Will Party (was elected president in 2004 for his first time). Ran again in 2016 on the Forward Venezuela Party ticket against Leopoldo López, who ran on the Popular Will ticket and successfully won with a 59% majority in the election.
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There. Though I did say in my history I am MUCH richer in this timeline than irl. But whatever
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 5:11 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Wow... that's scary...



Which ever was pro-Russia.


Generally, the Emperor was specifically pro-Russian. But nothing is stopping the rebels from being pro-Russian as well. The difference in attitude is likely to be towards Germany. The Emperor is pro-German while the rebels are anti-German.

Well, I guess Italia is going to have to reinstate the Emperor.
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Postby San Regada » Fri May 26, 2017 6:07 am

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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 6:21 am

San Regada wrote:What did I miss...?

Revolution in Greece, Italia is about to help the Emperor.
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Postby San Regada » Fri May 26, 2017 6:32 am

Apror wrote:
San Regada wrote:What did I miss...?

Revolution in Greece, Italia is about to help the Emperor.

So nothing relevant to Chile. Gotchya.
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 6:33 am

San Regada wrote:
Apror wrote:Revolution in Greece, Italia is about to help the Emperor.

So nothing relevant to Chile. Gotchya.

Actually, the Latin meeting is being held and Chile is invited.
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 6:34 am

Just need to post it.........
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Postby Chewion » Fri May 26, 2017 7:14 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
I cant really see Greece enjoying the Russians more than the Germans considering they were basically a german puppet for roughly 50 years and are still really close friends with them. If anything, I could see either a rouge state happening, or something else entirely.


Historically and culturally, Greece has more in common with Russia and has had a positive relationship with Russia. Germany's relationship to Greece has been quite negative throughout history. Emperor Basil will escape Athens (my next post) and flee to Crete. He will successfully maintain the Greek islands and northern Greece (Makedonia and Thrace) while the rebels will take Attica (Athens and the surrounding area) and the Peloponnese. Emperor Basil will probably ask Germany to help restore him, and I could see the rebels aligning themselves to any nation that wishes to challenge Germany's hegemony in the region (Japan perhaps? or the United States?). That's where I'm going with this.

Germany is open to helping the rebels.
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 7:55 am

Chewion wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Historically and culturally, Greece has more in common with Russia and has had a positive relationship with Russia. Germany's relationship to Greece has been quite negative throughout history. Emperor Basil will escape Athens (my next post) and flee to Crete. He will successfully maintain the Greek islands and northern Greece (Makedonia and Thrace) while the rebels will take Attica (Athens and the surrounding area) and the Peloponnese. Emperor Basil will probably ask Germany to help restore him, and I could see the rebels aligning themselves to any nation that wishes to challenge Germany's hegemony in the region (Japan perhaps? or the United States?). That's where I'm going with this.

Germany is open to helping the rebels.

The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.
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Postby Chewion » Fri May 26, 2017 10:12 am

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:Germany is open to helping the rebels.

The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.

If help them because they would then be cool with me.
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 10:29 am

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.

If help them because they would then be cool with me.

They oppose you because they oppose your policies if I remember correctly. Helping them would only help so much.
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Postby Chewion » Fri May 26, 2017 3:43 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:If help them because they would then be cool with me.

They oppose you because they oppose your policies if I remember correctly. Helping them would only help so much.

Then I shall fight them. and I expect you to do the same.
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Postby South Vict » Fri May 26, 2017 3:45 pm

South Vict wrote:NS name: South Vict
IC Name Azerbaijan
Government type: Republic
Population: 9,823,667
Capital: Baku
Leader: Ilham Aliyev
Position/title: President
Age: 55
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Active Duty military: 70,000
Reserve military: 300,000
Tanks: 520
Carriers: 0
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Submarines: 0
Helicopters: 93
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Attack Aircraft (Includes bombers): 29
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Postby Apror » Fri May 26, 2017 3:45 pm

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:They oppose you because they oppose your policies if I remember correctly. Helping them would only help so much.

Then I shall fight them. and I expect you to do the same.

I'm bound to do whatever you do since you're involved.

However I want to be more involved, for reasons that are of obvious.
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Postby NewLakotah » Fri May 26, 2017 6:46 pm

Genyulan wrote:
Genyulan wrote:NS name: Genyulan
IC Name: Republic of Venezuela
Government type: Federal Republic
Population: 35,776,000
Capital: Caracas
Leader: María Corina Machado
Position/title: President
Age: 49
Picture: (Image)
Yup. She is real. She is part of the Come Venezuela Party irl, a libertarian/classical liberal party. And this
Active Duty military: 360,000
Reserve military: 535,000
Tanks: 720
Carriers: 0
Destroyers: 34
Cruisers: 18
Submarines: 67
Helicopters: 840
Fighter Jets: 720
Attack Aircraft (Includes bombers): 980
Nukes (Just yes or no will do): no
One paragraph History of your nation: The Republic of Venezuela remains the same up until the 1970s, where the socialist revolution fails to take place. Venezuela remains a heavily capitalist, free market country with strong ties to the United States as well as other Latin countries. This has resulted in a very rich Venezuela, with an economy of over one trillion.
One paragraph history of your leader: Joined the military at age 19, fresh out of high school. Stayed in the military for 5 years. Began her political career when she became the presidential campaign manager of Henrique Salas Römer in the 1996 election (Age 29). Became mayor of Valencia at age 33 in 2000, reelected in 2004 at age 37. Became governor of Carabobo in 2008 at age 41. Ran for resident in 2012, losing to Henrique Capriles who ran on the Popular Will Party (was elected president in 2004 for his first time). Ran again in 2016 on the Forward Venezuela Party ticket against Leopoldo López, who ran on the Popular Will ticket and successfully won with a 59% majority in the election.
2000 - Do not remove

There. Though I did say in my history I am MUCH richer in this timeline than irl. But whatever

I've told you 3 times now to lower your Air Force and Navy. Considering that IRL, the US Navy has 71, and you 67, basically your saying your are almost the second best Navy in the world. Unless you can describe the type and level of every aircraft in your inventory, every naval type, class, and reserve boats to supply, and explain how much money your military budget devastates your economy, then its not accepted until lowered. Thank you.
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri May 26, 2017 11:25 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:Germany is open to helping the rebels.

The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.


Greece just ended the Far-Right status quo that's lasted for the previous 70 years. Considering the similarities between Greece and Italy, culturally and socially, and considering the geographic proximity of the two, there is nothing stopping a similar Republican movement from taking place in Italy. Yolanda would be suicidal to favor the rebels, as it undermines the whole status quo of her being Empress of Italy.

Greece is also a mountainous af country, perfect for guerilla warfare. This could easily turn into Vietnam, if you get what I mean.

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Postby Apror » Sat May 27, 2017 4:31 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.


Greece just ended the Far-Right status quo that's lasted for the previous 70 years. Considering the similarities between Greece and Italy, culturally and socially, and considering the geographic proximity of the two, there is nothing stopping a similar Republican movement from taking place in Italy. Yolanda would be suicidal to favor the rebels, as it undermines the whole status quo of her being Empress of Italy.

Greece is also a mountainous af country, perfect for guerilla warfare. This could easily turn into Vietnam, if you get what I mean.

Well Yolanda isn't anywhere as batshit crazy when it comes to her people. She treats her people like her children, an extension of her. Her people love her, though she would realistically support the Greek Emperor.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 27, 2017 5:07 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:The rebels are Anti-Germany. While Italia will probably help the Emperor, I could also see them helping the Rebels to help keep Italian Influence. And a favorable Government.


Greece just ended the Far-Right status quo that's lasted for the previous 70 years. Considering the similarities between Greece and Italy, culturally and socially, and considering the geographic proximity of the two, there is nothing stopping a similar Republican movement from taking place in Italy. Yolanda would be suicidal to favor the rebels, as it undermines the whole status quo of her being Empress of Italy.

Greece is also a mountainous af country, perfect for guerilla warfare. This could easily turn into Vietnam, if you get what I mean.

Germany doesn't mind carpet bombing.
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Postby NewLakotah » Sat May 27, 2017 9:39 am

Chewion wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Greece just ended the Far-Right status quo that's lasted for the previous 70 years. Considering the similarities between Greece and Italy, culturally and socially, and considering the geographic proximity of the two, there is nothing stopping a similar Republican movement from taking place in Italy. Yolanda would be suicidal to favor the rebels, as it undermines the whole status quo of her being Empress of Italy.

Greece is also a mountainous af country, perfect for guerilla warfare. This could easily turn into Vietnam, if you get what I mean.

Germany doesn't mind carpet bombing.

lol what?

And how did carpet bombing work for the United States in Vietnam?
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