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Postby Vaspir » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:42 pm

How chaotic is the situation on the left?
I know the Democrats were decimated in the Presidential election but is it a passing thing, like the Republicans issue in 1912, or is it more of a permanent thing, with the Progressives around to stay?
I am thinking of making a character (ditching my draft for NJ Gov) that could try and repair the Democrat/Progressive rift.
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Postby Velahor » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:49 pm

Vaspir wrote:How chaotic is the situation on the left?
I know the Democrats were decimated in the Presidential election but is it a passing thing, like the Republicans issue in 1912, or is it more of a permanent thing, with the Progressives around to stay?
I am thinking of making a character (ditching my draft for NJ Gov) that could try and repair the Democrat/Progressive rift.

The staying power of the Progressives is still TBD. If they can shed the rich white guilt image that they've accidentally brought on themselves, and if the Democrats don't move left to make the Progs obsolete, they may have a chance.
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Postby Vaspir » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:04 am

Velahor wrote:
Vaspir wrote:How chaotic is the situation on the left?
I know the Democrats were decimated in the Presidential election but is it a passing thing, like the Republicans issue in 1912, or is it more of a permanent thing, with the Progressives around to stay?
I am thinking of making a character (ditching my draft for NJ Gov) that could try and repair the Democrat/Progressive rift.

The staying power of the Progressives is still TBD. If they can shed the rich white guilt image that they've accidentally brought on themselves, and if the Democrats don't move left to make the Progs obsolete, they may have a chance.

My character I am planning right now is my attempt to bridge the gap.
Blue collar progressive Democrat, Senator from a blue state (idk which yet), Warren-esque really I suppose.
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Postby Velahor » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:14 am

Vaspir wrote:
Velahor wrote:The staying power of the Progressives is still TBD. If they can shed the rich white guilt image that they've accidentally brought on themselves, and if the Democrats don't move left to make the Progs obsolete, they may have a chance.

My character I am planning right now is my attempt to bridge the gap.
Blue collar progressive Democrat, Senator from a blue state (idk which yet), Warren-esque really I suppose.

TG me when they get accepted. Nicole Smith, my Illinois Representative, is a progressive Democrat who would like the Democrats to move farther left so that the progressives don't have a special niche with the far left anymore.
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Postby Vaspir » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:22 am

Velahor wrote:
Vaspir wrote:My character I am planning right now is my attempt to bridge the gap.
Blue collar progressive Democrat, Senator from a blue state (idk which yet), Warren-esque really I suppose.

TG me when they get accepted. Nicole Smith, my Illinois Representative, is a progressive Democrat who would like the Democrats to move farther left so that the progressives don't have a special niche with the far left anymore.

Ill send over the draft of my app too.
Edit 1: I am struggling to decide if I should be from Minnesota, to get that populist vibe, or somewhere like Vermont.
Edit 2: It looks like the three options for a Warren-esque character to thrive politically would be Vermont, Minnesota, or Oregon. Most other blue states have been taken. :meh:
What one do you guys think would work best?
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NS Nation Name: KI
Character Name: Chase Wilson
Character Gender: M
Character Age: 27
Character Height: 5'9
Character Weight: 190
Character Position/Role/Job: Candidate for Senate
Appearance: White/athletic, strong-jawed, brown hair/blue eyes
Character State of Origin: CA
Character Party Affiliation: Fascist Party USA
Main Strengths: Calm and collected, handsome, charismatic, excellent small group talker
Main Weaknesses: Some trouble addressing large groups, ideology stigmatized by history, dosn't base a whole lot of his arguments purely on numbers/facts.
Biography: Born in northern CA, Chase grew up in a quiet rural town and lived a mostly normal life. After a healthy childhood he graduated high school and went on to join the Army. After serving his term in the military police he left and became a political activist. He favored small meetings and gatherings and found inspiration in ancient Rome and other empires. A highly nationalistic individual he then began to preach fascistic thought and ideals. He twisted Fascism to his own flavor, one with more classic touches. He sought to bring people from all backgrounds together as Americans, not because of color or creed. Growing up in very liberal areas caused problems, with even death threats made against his life. Local socialists and moaists were the worst of enemies.

He then decided to move to the east coast in CT and is a relatively new resident. Now he has started a campaign to run for senator of the state. He hopes that even if he doesn't win he can garner some support for future elections and hopefully a broader movement to create a more friendly fascist face in the states. He now runs his own small party which hasn't grow very much and isn't recognized by many of his opponents.
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Note: Chase is a gay(which has gotten him support and hate) and refuses to use personal attacks on his opponents stating that " My ideals are stronger than that"

Fascist Party USA Ideals
Strengthen Military
Pro-LGBTQ
Pro-2nd Amendment
Pro-Choice(to an extent)
Pro-Civil Service
Pro-American business first
Establishment of a "Fascist Republic"
Increase in power to executive branch within strict confines of the constitution
Government supported patriotism campaigns
Pro-Large infrastructure projects


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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:06 am

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NS Nation Name: Kazakovia
Character Name: Auel Clovis
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 32
Character Height: 6 feet
Character Weight: 175 lbs.
Character Position/Role/Job: Third District Representative (if possible) If not, maybe Governor of Iowa
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Character State of Origin: Iowa
Character Party Affiliation: Republican Party
Main Strengths: Convincing speaker and quite manipulative
Main Weaknesses: Quite impulsive and impatient
Biography: (Minimum 1-2 paragraphs) He got his SJG degree in the University of Iowa College of Law. He has served three terms as mayor of Iowa City and is now a third district congressman under the Democrats. He lives with his wife, Athena Clovis, and two sons, Brent and Evan, in Iowa. Though a politician, he makes sure he fulfills his fatherly duties everyday by being the one who brings his children to school. As a mayor, he has done much for Iowa like the construction of two public scools and repairing damaged and old infrastructures that old city administrators didn't have time to fix. Regarding the Congress, he is still new in Congress politics. We don't know yet what he is capable of or what he'll be like but one thing's for sure, he's from Iowa.
Other Info: In a close relationship with some congressmen outside Iowa.

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"Under the Democrats?"

If he'd served three terms as Mayor before the House, he would have been elected for the first time when he was fifteen

If you want that he needs to be way older. Like, double his age.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:12 am

Vaspir wrote:How chaotic is the situation on the left?
I know the Democrats were decimated in the Presidential election but is it a passing thing, like the Republicans issue in 1912, or is it more of a permanent thing, with the Progressives around to stay?
I am thinking of making a character (ditching my draft for NJ Gov) that could try and repair the Democrat/Progressive rift.


The power structures of the Dems are still there. They've still got the old intertial elections, way more Senators, etc. In terms of administrating they've got some staying power

The bigger problem is just that their reputation is horrible, and they're stuck with the image of the most unpopular President and most unpopular Presidential candidate of all time, combined with major loss of faith in the party in general

The Progs are much more ascendant, but unless things change they'll probably get weaker as time from the election increases. They've got a bunch of Governors and their ranks boosted by defections, but they don't have the numbers of the Dems in the Senate or in most state legs.

In short the Dems should still be mostly functional when administrating but the split is absolutely killer whenever it comes to an election. After the CNN debacle it may be widening
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:16 am

So anyway, yeah, what I had realized is that throwing the protestors under the bus is going to make the bus crash

Sort of a simple don't backstab someone who can stab you back sort of thing. Thing is, LGBT action knows that it was Hook that bankrolled and organized the whole thing. Now that ANN has turned on them fully, they've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by outing him

So the next public announcement we're going to see is LGBT action revealing the whole protest was Hookstraten's baby
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Postby Uttland » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:32 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:So anyway, yeah, what I had realized is that throwing the protestors under the bus is going to make the bus crash

Sort of a simple don't backstab someone who can stab you back sort of thing. Thing is, LGBT action knows that it was Hook that bankrolled and organized the whole thing. Now that ANN has turned on them fully, they've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by outing him

So the next public announcement we're going to see is LGBT action revealing the whole protest was Hookstraten's baby

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:49 am

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:So anyway, yeah, what I had realized is that throwing the protestors under the bus is going to make the bus crash

Sort of a simple don't backstab someone who can stab you back sort of thing. Thing is, LGBT action knows that it was Hook that bankrolled and organized the whole thing. Now that ANN has turned on them fully, they've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by outing him

So the next public announcement we're going to see is LGBT action revealing the whole protest was Hookstraten's baby

They're not a player


That doesn't change anything
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NS Nation Name: Kazakovia
Character Name: Auel Clovis
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 43
Character Height: 5'10
Character Weight: 175 lbs.
Character Position/Role/Job: Third District Representative (if possible) If not, maybe Governor of Iowa
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Character State of Origin: Iowa
Character Party Affiliation: Republican Party
Main Strengths: Convincing speaker and manipulative, attractive to adults
Main Weaknesses: Quite impulsive and impatient
Biography: (Minimum 1-2 paragraphs) He got his SJG degree in the University of Iowa College of Law. He has served three terms as mayor of Iowa City and is now a third district congressman under the Republicans. He lives with his wife, Athena Clovis, and two sons, Brent and Evan, in Iowa. Though a politician, he makes sure he fulfills his fatherly duties everyday by being the one who brings his children to school. As a mayor, he has done much for Iowa like the construction of two public scools and repairing damaged and old infrastructures that old city administrators didn't have time to fix. Regarding the Congress, he is still new in Congress politics. We don't know yet what he is capable of or what he'll be like but one thing's for sure, he's from Iowa.
Other Info: In a close relationship with some congressmen outside Iowa.

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Character Name: Margaret Elaine Valerie Tilden
Character Gender: Female
Character Age: 59 (Born. 1958)
Character Height: 5’6
Character Weight: 139 llbs
Character Position/Role/Job: Senator for Minnesota
Appearance:
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Character State of Origin: Minnesota
Character Party Affiliation: Democratic
Main Strengths: Populist, experienced, progressive, liked by the left, blue collar appeal, well known and admired.
Main Weaknesses: Not well connected to the establishment but career politician, divorced, generally considered to be too independent for high political office, overly blunt, stubborn, arrogant, despised by the right, workaholic, viewed with suspicion by some within the Democratic establishment due to actions during the 2016 primary.
Biography: Born in Duluth, Minnesota, to a Steel worker father, and seamstress mom, Margaret Tilden was not destined for greatness. Her father worked in the Duluth Works Steel plant for his entire adult life, and while he provided for his family, the Tilden’s life was not an easy one. Margaret worked with her mother, learning how to sew and make clothing, clothes she often wore herself, for which she was ridiculed at school. Her father’s experience at the Steel mill taught Margaret the value of hard work, and most importantly for her, the importance of Unions.

In 1968, at the age of 10, Margaret and her parents volunteered for the Democratic presidential nominee, and after knocking on doors and attending countless rallies, the young Margaret was converted. From that year she had been a lifelong Democrat.

In 1976, Margaret entered University at University of Minnesota, working to get her undergraduate degree in sociology and political science. She received this degree in 1980, and began working at the Duluth chapter of the AFL-CIO, where she assisted her father and the Union in their attempts to protect the Duluth steel industry. They failed, and the Duluth Works plant was shut down in 1981. Her father died the following year of Lung Cancer.
With these twin tragedies, Margaret took in her mother, whom she got a job with the AFL-CIO. She worked there until her own death in 2005, living with her daughter up to that point as well.

While at the AFL-CIO, Margaret met and began dating Terry Schulz, a Democratic party organizer in Minnesota. Terry and Margaret married in 1983, and had two children, Valerie named after her mother, and Nathaniel. Margaret divorced her husband in 1999 after it became clear Margaret was putting her work ahead of her family. She has three grandchildren, Cassy, Carter and Lucas.

In 1988, at the age of 30, Margaret decided for the first time in her life, to run for election. She ran in the Democratic primary for the 8th Congressional district, and while she was nominated, she ran a poor campaign, and was defeated by her Republican foe. Despite this, Margaret persevered, and ran again in 1990, in Minnesota's 5th electoral district, having moved to Minneapolis in 1989. This time, she unleashed a populist, liberal tied, and won the election in a romp, becoming a star of the Minnesota Democratic Party. Pegged for great things, she was re-elected in 1992, 1994, 1996. She chose not to seek election in 1998, publicly due to her long tenure and desire for something new, privately due to her failing marriage. Her tenure in congress was marked by her liberal stances that never wavered, and her reputation as a straight shooter.

In her time out of Government, Margaret did not work, and chose instead to remain at home with her children and ailing mother. She was a noted opponent of the Iraq War.

However, at the encouragement of her family, she announced her candidacy for the Democratic nomination for the 2006 open Minnesota Senate seat. Her mother died in 2005, and her death reinvigorated Margaret’s desire to serve the public. She won the primary, and fought an intense election. She campaign was noted for its nasty tone, and the surprisingly strong showing by the Libertarian party. Halfway through the campaign, stories if Margaret's failed marriage began to leak into the press, including stories about her workaholic nature, and the amount of work she went trough to keep working and not take care of family matters. Despite this, Margaret ended up winning with 44.21% of the vote, a margin of about 400 votes. The leak was later identified as her ex-husband, Terry.

In the Senate, Margaret proved to be a liberal firebrand, often being an imperious questioner on committee’s and a strong proponent of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. Margaret was not, however, a strong ally of the Winston administration, and she questioned many of their actions, if not publicly, then very much so privately. She voted against many of the controversial bills passed in the election year, such as the WAC Bill, and withheld her endorsement of any Presidential candidate, as all appeared to her to have major flaws. At the last moment, she endorsed Governor Danders, but as his campaign went into a tailspin by reneging on many liberal promises, Margaret distanced herself from the campaign. This has lead to confrontations and suspicion of her by the party brass. She was courted by the Progressive Party, but did not jump ship.
As of late 2016, she is considering her options, but is determined to run again in 2018, and has her eyes set on the future, and repairing her party.
Other Info: Senator from Minnesota 2007- Present
Representative from Minnesota's 5th district 1991-1999
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So I keep seeing it mentioned and alluded to. But can anyone tell me what actually happened at the Libertarian Convention?
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Dentali wrote:So I keep seeing it mentioned and alluded to. But can anyone tell me what actually happened at the Libertarian Convention?


Bribery, Assault, frontrunner refused nomination, chaos, eventual riot and a few serious injuries.

The party basically collapsed.
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Postby Dentali » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:55 am

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Dentali wrote:So I keep seeing it mentioned and alluded to. But can anyone tell me what actually happened at the Libertarian Convention?


Bribery, Assault, frontrunner refused nomination, chaos, eventual riot and a few serious injuries.

The party basically collapsed.



Any specific culprits/ victims?
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Vaquas wrote:
Bribery, Assault, frontrunner refused nomination, chaos, eventual riot and a few serious injuries.

The party basically collapsed.



Any specific culprits/ victims?


Gerald Breckenridge (Not the Senator), and Victoria De Lucca are believed to have conspired to bribe delegates, Anita Flores, an annoying anarchist, basically won the nomination but refused it because of the corruption apparent in the party, causing even more disarray.

So Professor Blythe offered himself up as a compromise candidate with Longwood, another Libertarian contender, as VP. Many got behind him but many also didn't, so the convention was a disaster. I think flores jumped someone and the riot started.
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:36 pm

A rebranded Libertarian Party would have no real base. What is needed is a Dixiecrat type party if anyone wants an unrepresented base.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:36 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Any specific culprits/ victims?


Gerald Breckenridge (Not the Senator), and Victoria De Lucca are believed to have conspired to bribe delegates, Anita Flores, an annoying anarchist, basically won the nomination but refused it because of the corruption apparent in the party, causing even more disarray.

So Professor Blythe offered himself up as a compromise candidate with Longwood, another Libertarian contender, as VP. Many got behind him but many also didn't, so the convention was a disaster. I think flores jumped someone and the riot started.

Breck was innocent, though, and he is known to be IC. I think so, at least
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:38 pm

Sanabel wrote:A rebranded Libertarian Party would have no real base. What is needed is a Dixiecrat type party if anyone wants an unrepresented base.

A Libertarian Party if they want to go anywhere would have to adopt dogwhistling and attacks on hated minorities(atheists, Muslims) to try and swing the South

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Postby Vaquas » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:39 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
Gerald Breckenridge (Not the Senator), and Victoria De Lucca are believed to have conspired to bribe delegates, Anita Flores, an annoying anarchist, basically won the nomination but refused it because of the corruption apparent in the party, causing even more disarray.

So Professor Blythe offered himself up as a compromise candidate with Longwood, another Libertarian contender, as VP. Many got behind him but many also didn't, so the convention was a disaster. I think flores jumped someone and the riot started.

Breck was innocent, though, and he is known to be IC. I think so, at least


I know he was innocent, I just don't remember that being proven IC?
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:41 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sanabel wrote:A rebranded Libertarian Party would have no real base. What is needed is a Dixiecrat type party if anyone wants an unrepresented base.

A Libertarian Party if they want to go anywhere would have to adopt dogwhistling and attacks on hated minorities(atheists, Muslims) to try and swing the South


Lel, I have a feeling neither of these two men want anything to do with that.

Kelvs, I just have to say, you seem to seriously mischaracterize the entire south as a boiling cesspool of festering rascism and rampant bigotry.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:43 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:A Libertarian Party if they want to go anywhere would have to adopt dogwhistling and attacks on hated minorities(atheists, Muslims) to try and swing the South


Lel, I have a feeling neither of these two men want anything to do with that.

Kelvs, I just have to say, you seem to seriously mischaracterize the entire south as a boiling cesspool of festering rascism and rampant bigotry.


You go where the votes are, you do not wait for the votes to come to you.

You are denying the obvious fact that dogwhistling is a legitimate and proven strategy of winning in the Deep South(Santorum, Huckabee, Trump). The key is to be subtle with it.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:47 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Breck was innocent, though, and he is known to be IC. I think so, at least


I know he was innocent, I just don't remember that being proven IC?

I mean, he publicly tried to turn himself in to the FBI so that they may investigate him.
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