Washington 2016 Political RP [CLOSED] OOC Pt. VI

[Argentarino]

Interesting proposition by Reed. It definitely does put Conti at some risk, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Conti's quite vulnerable in 2018, and its Maryland, where Reed is largely more popular than he is. Getting some free bipartisan publicity on introducing the thing isn't bad, and it is a proposition that most Democrats support-and linking himself loosely with Reed+working across the aisle isn't going to hurt his reelection bid.

It's something I thought about. But at the same time, Conti isn't stupid. Balanced budget amendments have been submitted before, and in RL, they flounder for a reason: everyone likes the idea of it, but the reality of what that might entail is unpopular for target groups for every party: elders and retirees who would suffer from cuts to Social Security; veterans and retired civil servants whose retirement pensions would be endangered; not to mention almost every aspect of American life that depends on the federal government, ranging from education and healthcare to transportation and infrastructure to defense and foreign policy. I'm not disputing that the idea is popular, but the reality would doom everyone.

[Uttland]

Gotta love how Johnson votes not guilty on a charge Winston pleaded guilty to

Intentional

[Tallahassee News Station]

Interesting proposition by Reed. It definitely does put Conti at some risk, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Conti's quite vulnerable in 2018, and its Maryland, where Reed is largely more popular than he is. Getting some free bipartisan publicity on introducing the thing isn't bad, and it is a proposition that most Democrats support-and linking himself loosely with Reed+working across the aisle isn't going to hurt his reelection bid.

It's something I thought about. But at the same time, Conti isn't stupid. Balanced budget amendments have been submitted before, and in RL, they flounder for a reason: everyone likes the idea of it, but the reality of what that might entail is unpopular for target groups for every party: elders and retirees who would suffer from cuts to Social Security; veterans and retired civil servants whose retirement pensions would be endangered; not to mention almost every aspect of American life that depends on the federal government, ranging from education and healthcare to transportation and infrastructure to defense and foreign policy. I'm not disputing that the idea is popular, but the reality would doom everyone.

That'd be a matter of politically splitting amendment and budget, put out some lines like "we were promised something different" or whatever. If he makes it work, good for Conti, if not, bad

[Uttland]

I'm surprised none of you see my plan to have Uly form a beautiful Golden Girls-esqe friendship with Winston

[Argentarino]

It's something I thought about. But at the same time, Conti isn't stupid. Balanced budget amendments have been submitted before, and in RL, they flounder for a reason: everyone likes the idea of it, but the reality of what that might entail is unpopular for target groups for every party: elders and retirees who would suffer from cuts to Social Security; veterans and retired civil servants whose retirement pensions would be endangered; not to mention almost every aspect of American life that depends on the federal government, ranging from education and healthcare to transportation and infrastructure to defense and foreign policy. I'm not disputing that the idea is popular, but the reality would doom everyone.

That'd be a matter of politically splitting amendment and budget, put out some lines like "we were promised something different" or whatever. If he makes it work, good for Conti, if not, bad

The other reason is lack of trust. Reed's deal basically was that Conti would have to unilaterally push his bill through Congress. Reed would not be obligated to do anything to help it along, and if anything, Conti suspects that Reed would probably encourage his caucus to vote against it. He feels Reed would sign it, but only after doing everything in his power to ensure that it fails.

[Tallahassee News Station]

That'd be a matter of politically splitting amendment and budget, put out some lines like "we were promised something different" or whatever. If he makes it work, good for Conti, if not, bad

The other reason is lack of trust. Reed's deal basically was that Conti would have to unilaterally push his bill through Congress. Reed would not be obligated to do anything to help it along, and if anything, Conti suspects that Reed would probably encourage his caucus to vote against it. He feels Reed would sign it, but only after doing everything in his power to ensure that it fails.

Pretty much. I suppose the question would be if Conti would prefer a small chance over none

Though I don't really see what that has to do with trust

[Uttland]

Kay Bailey Hutchison is going to NATO ambassador. Huh.

[Tallahassee News Station]

Kay Bailey Hutchison is going to NATO ambassador. Huh.

NATO? More like NOT-0!

[Argentarino]

The other reason is lack of trust. Reed's deal basically was that Conti would have to unilaterally push his bill through Congress. Reed would not be obligated to do anything to help it along, and if anything, Conti suspects that Reed would probably encourage his caucus to vote against it. He feels Reed would sign it, but only after doing everything in his power to ensure that it fails.

Pretty much. I suppose the question would be if Conti would prefer a small chance over none

Though I don't really see what that has to do with trust

He doesn't trust Reed to provide as much support to the Equality Act as Reed is asking of Conti for the balanced budget amendment.

[Tallahassee News Station]

Pretty much. I suppose the question would be if Conti would prefer a small chance over none

Though I don't really see what that has to do with trust

He doesn't trust Reed to provide as much support to the Equality Act as Reed is asking of Conti for the balanced budget amendment.

Well I wouldn't expect him to, given that he never said he would

[Uttland]

Kay Bailey Hutchison is going to NATO ambassador. Huh.

NATO? More like NOT-0!

*gif of black youth falling into a crowd of his peers*

[Uttland]

I'm surprised Cain never recieved a recess appointment as Secretary of State

[Meelducan]

That Kiser phone call made me laugh.

[Tallahassee News Station]

That Kiser phone call made me laugh.

WHY U DO?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Kiser stronk!

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

It's something I thought about. But at the same time, Conti isn't stupid. Balanced budget amendments have been submitted before, and in RL, they flounder for a reason: everyone likes the idea of it, but the reality of what that might entail is unpopular for target groups for every party: elders and retirees who would suffer from cuts to Social Security; veterans and retired civil servants whose retirement pensions would be endangered; not to mention almost every aspect of American life that depends on the federal government, ranging from education and healthcare to transportation and infrastructure to defense and foreign policy. I'm not disputing that the idea is popular, but the reality would doom everyone.

That'd be a matter of politically splitting amendment and budget, put out some lines like "we were promised something different" or whatever. If he makes it work, good for Conti, if not, bad

The best way forward for the Democrats is to approve the balanced budget amendment and then watch the GOP dig a grave for themselves.

[Uttland]

That'd be a matter of politically splitting amendment and budget, put out some lines like "we were promised something different" or whatever. If he makes it work, good for Conti, if not, bad

The best way forward for the Democrats is to approve the balanced budget amendment and then watch the GOP dig a grave for themselves.

That's kinda genius

[Argentarino]

The best way forward for the Democrats is to approve the balanced budget amendment and then watch the GOP dig a grave for themselves.

That's kinda genius

Sure, but then what happens after the dust settles? The Democrats will be held accountable to voting for it, and when it does go wrong (it will)...well, it's difficult to amend the Constitution to remove other Constitutional amendments. Conti is keeping his eye on the long game, and he knows that if he supports this amendment, he'd be in a nearly impossible position the next election, whether that was to run for his Senate seat or for the Presidency.

[The Central Shadow Nation]

Greetings, comrades.

[Canton Empire]

God I hate Kiser

[Sanabel]

Greetings, comrades.

Hi!

Almost time for our meeting. Just gotta handle Beaumont.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

That's kinda genius

Sure, but then what happens after the dust settles? The Democrats will be held accountable to voting for it, and when it does go wrong (it will)...well, it's difficult to amend the Constitution to remove other Constitutional amendments. Conti is keeping his eye on the long game, and he knows that if he supports this amendment, he'd be in a nearly impossible position the next election, whether that was to run for his Senate seat or for the Presidency.

Just say that

"We were promised something different the GOP lied about the budget, it all their fault."

[Canton Empire]

So Pro is gonna control the 45th and 46th President?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

So Pro is gonna control the 45th and 46th President?

Ja

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Sure, but then what happens after the dust settles? The Democrats will be held accountable to voting for it, and when it does go wrong (it will)...well, it's difficult to amend the Constitution to remove other Constitutional amendments. Conti is keeping his eye on the long game, and he knows that if he supports this amendment, he'd be in a nearly impossible position the next election, whether that was to run for his Senate seat or for the Presidency.

Just say that

"We were promised something different the GOP lied about the budget, it all their fault."

May be the terrible for America, but it will be great for blatant partisan advantage