Mars 2050 - The Red Dawn - OOC/Signups

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Alright I'm here. Grim do you need anything from me or no?

All your money thanks

I would prefer less retconning, not more, however, some people might be interested in buying those colonists from you.

Anyone wanna volunteer?

Sure take my money.

[Ulls]

Alright I'm here. Grim do you need anything from me or no?

All your money thanks

I would prefer less retconning, not more, however, some people might be interested in buying those colonists from you.

Anyone wanna volunteer?

Always game, could give G the Indians in exchange.

[The Grim Reaper]

All your money thanks



Anyone wanna volunteer?

Always game, could give G the Indians in exchange.

How much can you offer? I'd /like/ 10 bC, because that's how much I'd need to avoid taking out a loan.

[G-Tech Corporation]

All your money thanks



Anyone wanna volunteer?

Always game, could give G the Indians in exchange.

Ooh, or I could get the Lunar colonists. They'll simplify my Mining budget immensely.

You want ten credits for them Grim?

Hmm. That's a bit steep, but I can see why that works for you. How about ten credits now so you can buy what you need to buy, but a refund of three credits in a year or three? I'm not adverse to a short term loan to help another faction out, but on the other hand that's a lot of money.

And you would be wanting the credits in year four?

[Harkback Union]

Always game, could give G the Indians in exchange.

Ooh, or I could get the Lunar colonists. They'll simplify my Mining budget immensely.

You want ten credits for them Grim?

Hmm. That's a bit steep, but I can see why that works for you. How about ten credits now so you can buy what you need to buy, but a refund of three credits in a year or three? I'm not adverse to a short term loan to help another faction out, but on the other hand that's a lot of money.

And you would be wanting the credits in year four?

Those colonists are still on earth right?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ooh, or I could get the Lunar colonists. They'll simplify my Mining budget immensely.

You want ten credits for them Grim?

Hmm. That's a bit steep, but I can see why that works for you. How about ten credits now so you can buy what you need to buy, but a refund of three credits in a year or three? I'm not adverse to a short term loan to help another faction out, but on the other hand that's a lot of money.

And you would be wanting the credits in year four?

Those colonists are still on earth right?

The Moon, but not!Mars, yes.

[The Grim Reaper]

Always game, could give G the Indians in exchange.

Ooh, or I could get the Lunar colonists. They'll simplify my Mining budget immensely.

You want ten credits for them Grim?

Hmm. That's a bit steep, but I can see why that works for you. How about ten credits now so you can buy what you need to buy, but a refund of three credits in a year or three? I'm not adverse to a short term loan to help another faction out, but on the other hand that's a lot of money.

And you would be wanting the credits in year four?

Fuck. Well, I need them to actually mount a defense against Apple. Which is in year...uh, what year are you in Apple?

Year 3 - edit

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ooh, or I could get the Lunar colonists. They'll simplify my Mining budget immensely.

You want ten credits for them Grim?

Hmm. That's a bit steep, but I can see why that works for you. How about ten credits now so you can buy what you need to buy, but a refund of three credits in a year or three? I'm not adverse to a short term loan to help another faction out, but on the other hand that's a lot of money.

And you would be wanting the credits in year four?

Fuck. Well, I need them to actually mount a defense against Apple. Which is in year...uh, what year are you in Apple?

Hmm, I don't think colonists will matter much from a defense standpoint. If bodies are what you need to stick in a military colony, prisoners can run a Biodome while your Africans man the military base.

[The Grim Reaper]

Fuck. Well, I need them to actually mount a defense against Apple. Which is in year...uh, what year are you in Apple?

Hmm, I don't think colonists will matter much from a defense standpoint. If bodies are what you need to stick in a military colony, prisoners can run a Biodome while your Africans man the military base.

I mean I need the credits to mount the defense, to buy a military base.

[Harkback Union]

Those colonists are still on earth right?

The Moon, but not!Mars, yes.

Ooh, right, silly me.
Keep in mind thoug, the colonists cannot teleport. Once on Mars, the can cross 1 region per turn.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hmm, I don't think colonists will matter much from a defense standpoint. If bodies are what you need to stick in a military colony, prisoners can run a Biodome while your Africans man the military base.

I mean I need the credits to mount the defense, to buy a military base.

That's cool. If I don't buy the Indians in year three, and transfer ten credits to you instead, that would cover a military base, no? With Apolline's five?

[Harkback Union]

Hmm, I don't think colonists will matter much from a defense standpoint. If bodies are what you need to stick in a military colony, prisoners can run a Biodome while your Africans man the military base.

I mean I need the credits to mount the defense, to buy a military base.

For 12 creds, you could order and arm 2 MATTs, which would enough firepower to stop a siezable army.

[Harkback Union]

Might I add, Matts dont need to eat or draw significant amounts of energy from the grid...

[The Grim Reaper]

I mean I need the credits to mount the defense, to buy a military base.

For 12 creds, you could order and arm 2 MATTs, which would enough firepower to stop a siezable army.

It'd be x6 damage against vehicles for two bC per shot, which is about a quarter of the cost for an energy. That's close enough to be potentially worth it, especially just as a deterrent. Appealing, too, because I'm not exactly happy with having Utopia Network staff and power a military base.

[The Grim Reaper]

Now I just need to fix Turn 2, ughhhhh.

[ApplePieistan]

For 12 creds, you could order and arm 2 MATTs, which would enough firepower to stop a siezable army.

It'd be x6 damage against vehicles for two bC per shot, which is about a quarter of the cost for an energy. That's close enough to be potentially worth it, especially just as a deterrent. Appealing, too, because I'm not exactly happy with having Utopia Network staff and power a military base.

Oh, lets not do that. I just need some credits for a biodome later is all.

[The Grim Reaper]

It'd be x6 damage against vehicles for two bC per shot, which is about a quarter of the cost for an energy. That's close enough to be potentially worth it, especially just as a deterrent. Appealing, too, because I'm not exactly happy with having Utopia Network staff and power a military base.

Oh, lets not do that. I just need some credits for a biodome later is all.

I can't afford to pay a ransom, though - I won't have any credits left after I spend it all on military gear.

[G-Tech Corporation]

For 12 creds, you could order and arm 2 MATTs, which would enough firepower to stop a siezable army.

It'd be x6 damage against vehicles for two bC per shot, which is about a quarter of the cost for an energy. That's close enough to be potentially worth it, especially just as a deterrent. Appealing, too, because I'm not exactly happy with having Utopia Network staff and power a military base.

To me the main drawbacks of the MATTs are the inability to kill a regular soldier before the melee phase, and using Supplies. Supplies are cheap now, but have a serious opportunity cost to manufacture, and basically mean you're beholden to interplanetary markets to supply your defenses. That's a non-starter for me. Plus a military base can allow you to instagib even stronger enemies by letting any mobilized troops fire out while being safe from return fire.

[The Grim Reaper]

It'd be x6 damage against vehicles for two bC per shot, which is about a quarter of the cost for an energy. That's close enough to be potentially worth it, especially just as a deterrent. Appealing, too, because I'm not exactly happy with having Utopia Network staff and power a military base.

To me the main drawbacks of the MATTs are the inability to kill a regular soldier before the melee phase, and using Supplies. Supplies are cheap now, but have a serious opportunity cost to manufacture, and basically mean you're beholden to interplanetary markets to supply your defenses. That's a non-starter for me. Plus a military base can allow you to instagib even stronger enemies by letting any mobilized troops fire out while being safe from return fire.

In either case, Utopia probably will be washing their hands of the matter and gifting the said ideological tumour to Apolline. Plus, Apolline already has troops that can mobilize, soooo.

And food/energy are not concerns for me atm. I am still leaning towards military base, for the reasons you say.

[ApplePieistan]

To me the main drawbacks of the MATTs are the inability to kill a regular soldier before the melee phase, and using Supplies. Supplies are cheap now, but have a serious opportunity cost to manufacture, and basically mean you're beholden to interplanetary markets to supply your defenses. That's a non-starter for me. Plus a military base can allow you to instagib even stronger enemies by letting any mobilized troops fire out while being safe from return fire.

In either case, Utopia probably will be washing their hands of the matter and gifting the said ideological tumour to Apolline. Plus, Apolline already has troops that can mobilize, soooo.

And food/energy are not concerns for me atm. I am still leaning towards military base, for the reasons you say.

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

[G-Tech Corporation]

To me the main drawbacks of the MATTs are the inability to kill a regular soldier before the melee phase, and using Supplies. Supplies are cheap now, but have a serious opportunity cost to manufacture, and basically mean you're beholden to interplanetary markets to supply your defenses. That's a non-starter for me. Plus a military base can allow you to instagib even stronger enemies by letting any mobilized troops fire out while being safe from return fire.

In either case, Utopia probably will be washing their hands of the matter and gifting the said ideological tumour to Apolline. Plus, Apolline already has troops that can mobilize, soooo.

And food/energy are not concerns for me atm. I am still leaning towards military base, for the reasons you say.

Like I said, if you want to put up a military base, the Exarchate would love to swap you creds for those Lunar lads, plus a small no-interest loan to kick you over the threshold for a purchase. We have a vested interest in femNapoleon ending up on Elba sooner rather than later, after all, and her not being able to extort other colonies is all for the best.

[Harkback Union]

I will double IC supply output.

[G-Tech Corporation]

In either case, Utopia probably will be washing their hands of the matter and gifting the said ideological tumour to Apolline. Plus, Apolline already has troops that can mobilize, soooo.

And food/energy are not concerns for me atm. I am still leaning towards military base, for the reasons you say.

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

Unless I'm mistaken, can't you kill a MATT with your current Frenchman and rover? 1 Fire 1 Melee while the rover dies, and 1 Fire 1 Melee before the soldier kicks it?

[The Grim Reaper]

In either case, Utopia probably will be washing their hands of the matter and gifting the said ideological tumour to Apolline. Plus, Apolline already has troops that can mobilize, soooo.

And food/energy are not concerns for me atm. I am still leaning towards military base, for the reasons you say.

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

I'm not certain I know that, ICly, but in either case I'm not as concerned about ending you than I am about self-defense, at the moment.

And, as G-Tech said, MATTs only really come out to equal with a military base given that we have at least one armed detachment of our own, if not two.

EDIT: That's not what he said. MATTs come out to equal with a military base in terms of firepower, outside the huge vehicle bonus, but they're also less sturdy. (They were 1 Hull constructs, weren't they?) BIGGER BETTER EDIT: 3 Hull, actually.

Btw, @Harkback Union, would you mind putting the MATT details in the OP too? <3

[ApplePieistan]

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

Unless I'm mistaken, can't you kill a MATT with your current Frenchman and rover? 1 Fire 1 Melee while the rover dies, and 1 Fire 1 Melee before the soldier kicks it?

Yes, but then my soldier can't get home and I'd lose the rover. The attack simply won't be worth it.