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Scheduled RP Length (IRL time)?

Infinity squared.
22
69%
All Summer: (50 - 100 turns)
5
16%
Another Month or 2. (25 - 50 turns)
1
3%
Another week or 2. ( - 25 turns)
0
No votes
I'm already bored with this.
1
3%
Now that we know the rules, lets start over.
3
9%
 
Total votes : 32

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:02 am

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
If I loan out money as their local Martian executor at higher rates but with fixed repayment plans, the Bank could make a better return on its investments than the current 10% forever turnover.


Hah! You arent even planning to repay your own loans...


That's not strictly true. It really depends how my income is looking once repayments start, and if I can negotiate down from that ridiculous 250 year payment plan. But my ability to repay said loans and the ability of the Bank to make more money only goes up if they give me money to make more reasonable deals with other colonies. If I offered, say, a ten credit loan with a two credit interest to be repaid in five years, I bet a lot of people would be interested, and more likely to repay rather than default like most people will look to do with the current BoT loans.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:03 am

Ulls wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ah, so you want to store Ore for later processing?

That's the plan. Not blessed with having industrial colonies dropping from the Martian sky like "Manna from Heaven". Got to do what I can to survive without being killed in the early game.


Hmm, well, the Lunar colonists have pretty good utility for me, given I'm running two Industrial Bases at full bore now and I'll have a Mining Base up to supply them in year five. One Lunar Colonist solves my ore usage for the foreseeable future with no waste or downtime.
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Ulls
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Postby Ulls » Fri May 05, 2017 7:09 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ulls wrote:That's the plan. Not blessed with having industrial colonies dropping from the Martian sky like "Manna from Heaven". Got to do what I can to survive without being killed in the early game.


Hmm, well, the Lunar colonists have pretty good utility for me, given I'm running two Industrial Bases at full bore now and I'll have a Mining Base up to supply them in year five. One Lunar Colonist solves my ore usage for the foreseeable future with no waste or downtime.

I don't have a lot of money to throw at this though...

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:10 am

Ulls wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, well, the Lunar colonists have pretty good utility for me, given I'm running two Industrial Bases at full bore now and I'll have a Mining Base up to supply them in year five. One Lunar Colonist solves my ore usage for the foreseeable future with no waste or downtime.

I don't have a lot of money to throw at this though...


I don't either, really. That's why my offer to Grim includes three credits on short term loan to let him build his Military Base; I'll need to import food as it is, which will eat in to those savings.
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Postby Ulls » Fri May 05, 2017 7:17 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ulls wrote:I don't have a lot of money to throw at this though...


I don't either, really. That's why my offer to Grim includes three credits on short term loan to let him build his Military Base; I'll need to import food as it is, which will eat in to those savings.

and I want to try and increase my production...
I'm a terrible negotiator.

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Postby ApplePieistan » Fri May 05, 2017 7:25 am

Grim, if I call off the attack, will you not sell the lunar migrants to G-Tech?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:26 am

ApplePieistan wrote:Grim, if I call off the attack, will you not sell the lunar migrants to G-Tech?


Why would you, ICly, call off the attack?
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The Grim Reaper
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 7:28 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Grim, if I call off the attack, will you not sell the lunar migrants to G-Tech?


Why would you, ICly, call off the attack?


Well, I'm about to post ICly announcing publically that I'm in sore need of funds to repel Apple's attack, so that might be a tip off.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:31 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Why would you, ICly, call off the attack?


Well, I'm about to post ICly announcing publically that I'm in sore need of funds to repel Apple's attack, so that might be a tip off.


Ah, so you want to go for the old standard bluff. Call for funding to repel the attack, making Bibi call off the attack anticipating resistance, while actually not buying defenses. That's clever.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Fri May 05, 2017 7:36 am

So, do we have a deal?

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 7:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
Well, I'm about to post ICly announcing publically that I'm in sore need of funds to repel Apple's attack, so that might be a tip off.


Ah, so you want to go for the old standard bluff. Call for funding to repel the attack, making Bibi call off the attack anticipating resistance, while actually not buying defenses. That's clever.


It serves a double-purpose, in this case.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 7:40 am

ApplePieistan wrote:So, do we have a deal?


You're welcome to make the offer ICly <3.

The reason being that I want more time to consider the potential ramifications of accepting.

G-Tech, by the way, you're not in a position to buy food from me, are you?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:43 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:So, do we have a deal?


You're welcome to make the offer ICly <3.

The reason being that I want more time to consider the potential ramifications of accepting.

G-Tech, by the way, you're not in a position to buy food from me, are you?


Unfortunately not- I don't have any transport capacity as it is, plus I would only be importing one food a year for the immediate future, which would make renting transport financially unattractive.

It's just not a state of affairs I want to deal with for long. Those credits add up.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 7:46 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
You're welcome to make the offer ICly <3.

The reason being that I want more time to consider the potential ramifications of accepting.

G-Tech, by the way, you're not in a position to buy food from me, are you?


Unfortunately not- I don't have any transport capacity as it is, plus I would only be importing one food a year for the immediate future, which would make renting transport financially unattractive.

It's just not a state of affairs I want to deal with for long. Those credits add up.


Oh, did you not take the atmospheric transporter in the end/did it need fuel to operate?

Cause genuinely, Arjuna is the kind of guy who would give his spare food away for free if you needed it, seeing as we can't sell it atm. He only has one unit of food not accounted for, unless Apolline is coming down with her other colonists, but that'd be all you could move iirc.

We'd have offered it to Bibi, but uh, not the most stable working relationship.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 7:47 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Unfortunately not- I don't have any transport capacity as it is, plus I would only be importing one food a year for the immediate future, which would make renting transport financially unattractive.

It's just not a state of affairs I want to deal with for long. Those credits add up.


Oh, did you not take the atmospheric transporter in the end/did it need fuel to operate?

Cause genuinely, Arjuna is the kind of guy who would give his spare food away for free if you needed it, seeing as we can't sell it atm. He only has one unit of food not accounted for, unless Apolline is coming down with her other colonists, but that'd be all you could move iirc.

We'd have offered it to Bibi, but uh, not the most stable working relationship.


Yeah, at the end of the day I decided to bite the bullet and take the long term benefits of the Comms satellite- that forever +1 Media Power bonus is just too good to turn down.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 8:28 am

There we go, I even get to introduce a new character. I figured we could have an encrypted comms channel, what with both of our factions possessing comms expertise by way of the satellites.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 8:37 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:There we go, I even get to introduce a new character. I figured we could have an encrypted comms channel, what with both of our factions possessing comms expertise by way of the satellites.


Even if I do accept Apple's tentative OOC offer, obviously I wouldn't be averse to sending you Ismail Federov out of the goodness of my heart, and also because there isn't a damn thing that should stand between an RPer and good story.

So you can keep that in mind and move forward assuming that you'll be able to play around with Mr. Federov, while I wait to see if Apple turns around and says anything ICly.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 8:38 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:There we go, I even get to introduce a new character. I figured we could have an encrypted comms channel, what with both of our factions possessing comms expertise by way of the satellites.


Even if I do accept Apple's tentative OOC offer, obviously I wouldn't be averse to sending you Ismail Federov out of the goodness of my heart, and also because there isn't a damn thing that should stand between an RPer and good story.

So you can keep that in mind and move forward assuming that you'll be able to play around with Mr. Federov, while I wait to see if Apple turns around and says anything ICly.


Smashing, that would be great. I would like to have some more characters to weave in to my posts.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 8:59 am

Would a single MATT outmatch Apple's rover, actually? From what I can gather, it'd be 1 Fire 1 Melee vs 2 Fire 1 Melee in Apple's favour?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 9:00 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:Would a single MATT outmatch Apple's rover, actually? From what I can gather, not at all.


The MATT would oneshot the Rover in the Fire phase, leaving her Veteran French soldiers dismounted at 3 HP, iirc. If she allocates one damage in the Fire phase to your Biodome, and her one Melee to the Biodome, I don't think you could stop her destroying it.

Edit: Assuming military units don't have to prioritize military units. It makes the most sense if they do have to, but I don't think that is formally in the rules.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 9:05 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:Would a single MATT outmatch Apple's rover, actually? From what I can gather, not at all.


The MATT would oneshot the Rover in the Fire phase, leaving her Veteran French soldiers dismounted at 3 HP, iirc. If she allocates one damage in the Fire phase to your Biodome, and her one Melee to the Biodome, I don't think you could stop her destroying it.


Hmm. That does sound right to me.

If there's no forced 'taunt', then I can't really escape losing a biodome to an attack without oneshotting the rover AND the vets, which I'm pretty sure is impossible. In such a case, one-shotting the Rover is sufficient for my uses.

We'll see whether Apple chooses to make an IC offer, either way.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Fri May 05, 2017 9:21 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The MATT would oneshot the Rover in the Fire phase, leaving her Veteran French soldiers dismounted at 3 HP, iirc. If she allocates one damage in the Fire phase to your Biodome, and her one Melee to the Biodome, I don't think you could stop her destroying it.


Hmm. That does sound right to me.

If there's no forced 'taunt', then I can't really escape losing a biodome to an attack without oneshotting the rover AND the vets, which I'm pretty sure is impossible. In such a case, one-shotting the Rover is sufficient for my uses.

We'll see whether Apple chooses to make an IC offer, either way.

It is a really nice rover, I'd hate to lose it. I'll propose the peace deal soonish.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 05, 2017 9:22 am

ApplePieistan wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
Hmm. That does sound right to me.

If there's no forced 'taunt', then I can't really escape losing a biodome to an attack without oneshotting the rover AND the vets, which I'm pretty sure is impossible. In such a case, one-shotting the Rover is sufficient for my uses.

We'll see whether Apple chooses to make an IC offer, either way.

It is a really nice rover, I'd hate to lose it. I'll propose the peace deal soonish.


Do you mean 'soonish' as in later today, or 'soonish' as in like an hour or two?

I don't mind either way, it's just whether or not I'll want to be expecting it before bed.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Fri May 05, 2017 9:27 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:It is a really nice rover, I'd hate to lose it. I'll propose the peace deal soonish.


Do you mean 'soonish' as in later today, or 'soonish' as in like an hour or two?

I don't mind either way, it's just whether or not I'll want to be expecting it before bed.

I don't know yet. All I know is it'll be up sometime today and I'll probably not attack anyone turns 4 and 5, since people want to move forward.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri May 05, 2017 9:28 am

Hmm, guess those Lunar Migrants are off the table then. Ah well, that's what I get for supporting the price of peace.
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