Mars 2050 - The Red Dawn - OOC/Signups

[Harkback Union]

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

Unless I'm mistaken, can't you kill a MATT with your current Frenchman and rover? 1 Fire 1 Melee while the rover dies, and 1 Fire 1 Melee before the soldier kicks it?

triple damage vs vehicles
The MATT can get repairs between battles.
There may be only 1 battle each turn.

[G-Tech Corporation]

To be fair, I do need a vehicle to reach you, and MATTs can one-shot my rover.

I'm not certain I know that, ICly, but in either case I'm not as concerned about ending you than I am about self-defense, at the moment.

And, as G-Tech said, MATTs only really come out to equal with a military base given that we have at least one armed detachment of our own, if not two.

Also I personally chose a Military Base because it lets me mobilize and demobilize folks as needed. I fully intend to buy up a cache of guns in the near future, to be used as the need arises but otherwise left in storage. That way I don't need to leave colonists on permanent guard duty, but can still buff my defenses up as necessary. Units can be mobilized in a single turn for battle at the end of it, luckily.

Though, technically, 2 MATTs do exceed the damage output of a military base by one. 2 Fire 2 Melee vs 2 Fire 1 Melee. The tradeoff is needing more resources to fire, specific resources to fire, and being less durable.

[The Grim Reaper]

I'm not certain I know that, ICly, but in either case I'm not as concerned about ending you than I am about self-defense, at the moment.

And, as G-Tech said, MATTs only really come out to equal with a military base given that we have at least one armed detachment of our own, if not two.

Also I personally chose a Military Base because it lets me mobilize and demobilize folks as needed. I fully intend to buy up a cache of guns in the near future, to be used as the need arises but otherwise left in storage. That way I don't need to leave colonists on permanent guard duty, but can still buff my defenses up as necessary. Units can be mobilized in a single turn for battle at the end of it, luckily.

Though, technically, 2 MATTs do exceed the damage output of a military base by one. 2 Fire 2 Melee vs 2 Fire 1 Melee. The tradeoff is needing more resources to fire, specific resources to fire, and being less durable.

I already have an armed unit of French colonists (Seno's), so the military base works out in my favour in terms of just net firepower. I'm then trading off the 3 bC discount and vehicle bonus against the ability to mobilize long-term and the consolidated hull.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Also I personally chose a Military Base because it lets me mobilize and demobilize folks as needed. I fully intend to buy up a cache of guns in the near future, to be used as the need arises but otherwise left in storage. That way I don't need to leave colonists on permanent guard duty, but can still buff my defenses up as necessary. Units can be mobilized in a single turn for battle at the end of it, luckily.

Though, technically, 2 MATTs do exceed the damage output of a military base by one. 2 Fire 2 Melee vs 2 Fire 1 Melee. The tradeoff is needing more resources to fire, specific resources to fire, and being less durable.

I already have an armed unit of French colonists (Seno's), so the military base works out in my favour in terms of just net firepower. I'm then trading off the 3 bC discount and vehicle bonus against the ability to mobilize long-term and the consolidated hull.

Hmm, well, yes and no. I don't think Seno's Frenchmen came mobilized, just with a stash of weapons. It isn't part of their intrinsic state, nor would you want it to be, presumably, since mobilized units don't work based. A Military Base would let you two actually mobilize those Frenchmen and put those guns to work. Right now they're probably doing nothing useful, from a mechanical standpoint.

[Harkback Union]

But...

Automatic turrets... how cool is that?

Terran Weapons will be disappointed.

[The Grim Reaper]

I already have an armed unit of French colonists (Seno's), so the military base works out in my favour in terms of just net firepower. I'm then trading off the 3 bC discount and vehicle bonus against the ability to mobilize long-term and the consolidated hull.

Hmm, well, yes and no. I don't think Seno's Frenchmen came mobilized, just with a stash of weapons. It isn't part of their intrinsic state, nor would you want it to be, presumably, since mobilized units don't work based. A Military Base would let you two actually mobilize those Frenchmen and put those guns to work. Right now they're probably doing nothing useful, from a mechanical standpoint.

That's what I mean - I can't mobilize them with the MATTs, but I can mobilize them with the military base, so they count towards the military base's firepower rather than the MATTs. They aren't actually doing anything meaningful in Seno's mining colony until Year 5.

[G-Tech Corporation]

But...

Automatic turrets... how cool is that?

Terran Weapons will be disappointed.

They're a nice anti-vehicle measure.

But there's only one vehicle in the planet right now, and for a while.

[The Grim Reaper]

But...

Automatic turrets... how cool is that?

Terran Weapons will be disappointed.

Oh, right, Terran Weapons would be selling them. Ideologically, if I'm going to pick one, that's a big boost to the military base .

I'll just clean my Year 2 post up - I'll keep the stuff I do the same, I guess, but without the part where I try to bring British colonists onto the planet to work an industrial prefab that doesn't work. I'll still take them, just not deployed. Actually, I also bought a solar panel I can't use either...

Then I'll put a Year 3 plea for help and G-Tech can respond to that.

[Harkback Union]

But...

Automatic turrets... how cool is that?

Terran Weapons will be disappointed.

They're a nice anti-vehicle measure.

But there's only one vehicle in the planet right now, and for a while.

Maybe tw should release a new line of martian battle walkers to boost sales of their MATTs.

[G-Tech Corporation]

They're a nice anti-vehicle measure.

But there's only one vehicle in the planet right now, and for a while.

Maybe tw should release a new line of martian battle walkers to boost sales of their MATTs.

Given how expensive Rovers are, they would have to be sold at a deeply discounted rate to be bought.

[ApplePieistan]

So, simply put, what's the anti-me plan?

[The Grim Reaper]

So, simply put, what's the anti-me plan?

It involves a military base, at the moment.

And me posting, so as you can see, it's a very complicated plan.

[Harkback Union]

Maybe tw should release a new line of martian battle walkers to boost sales of their MATTs.

Given how expensive Rovers are, they would have to be sold at a deeply discounted rate to be bought.

Perhaps they will send a prototype to apple for testing.

[Ulls]

So I won't be able to get the Migrants? Just throw me a bone man, everyone got all the good stuff and I'm running on fumes here!

[The Grim Reaper]

So I won't be able to get the Migrants? Just throw me a bone man, everyone got all the good stuff and I'm running on fumes here!

I mean, if you and G-Tech want to try and pricewar, I don't mind, but Arjuna isn't particularly bent towards profiteering. He'll take whatever the best offer is off the bat as long as it'll actually get him over the mark.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Given how expensive Rovers are, they would have to be sold at a deeply discounted rate to be bought.

Perhaps they will send a prototype to apple for testing.

Ah, so then the Bank of Terra will send me a large lump sum of money too, no strings attached, for testing in the Martian financial system?

[G-Tech Corporation]

So I won't be able to get the Migrants? Just throw me a bone man, everyone got all the good stuff and I'm running on fumes here!

Well, me buying the Lunars off of Grim will mean I won't buy the Indians, which means you won't have to wrassle with Pac over who gets to buy them for how much.

Plus, what are you going to use the Lunar folks for? I want them for ore mining, but you don't have any mineral sources, no?

[Ulls]

So I won't be able to get the Migrants? Just throw me a bone man, everyone got all the good stuff and I'm running on fumes here!

Well, me buying the Lunars off of Grim will mean I won't buy the Indians, which means you won't have to wrassle with Pac over who gets to buy them for how much.

Plus, what are you going to use the Lunar folks for? I want them for ore mining, but you don't have any mineral sources, no?

1 ore source. Which is why I got auto miners.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, me buying the Lunars off of Grim will mean I won't buy the Indians, which means you won't have to wrassle with Pac over who gets to buy them for how much.

Plus, what are you going to use the Lunar folks for? I want them for ore mining, but you don't have any mineral sources, no?

1 ore source. Which is why I got auto miners.

Ah, I see. I thought you had none. Auto-Miners, as far as I am aware, are capable of supplying ore even in regions where there is none.

Hmm. You won't be using two ore per year in the near future though, will you?

[Harkback Union]

Perhaps they will send a prototype to apple for testing.

Ah, so then the Bank of Terra will send me a large lump sum of money too, no strings attached, for testing in the Martian financial system?

How would the BoT profit from that?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah, so then the Bank of Terra will send me a large lump sum of money too, no strings attached, for testing in the Martian financial system?

How would the BoT profit from that?

If I loan out money as their local Martian executor at higher rates but with fixed repayment plans, the Bank could make a better return on its investments than the current 10% forever turnover.

[Ulls]

1 ore source. Which is why I got auto miners.

Ah, I see. I thought you had none. Auto-Miners, as far as I am aware, are capable of supplying ore even in regions where there is none.

Hmm. You won't be using two ore per year in the near future though, will you?

Dropping a warehouse for the idea to get 2 per year, either through mining bots and a moon mine, or Lunar Migrants and auto miners. Was going to try and catch up on the industrialization as everyone is beating me to the punch.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah, I see. I thought you had none. Auto-Miners, as far as I am aware, are capable of supplying ore even in regions where there is none.

Hmm. You won't be using two ore per year in the near future though, will you?

Dropping a warehouse for the idea to get 2 per year, either through mining bots and a moon mine, or Lunar Migrants and auto miners. Was going to try and catch up on the industrialization as everyone is beating me to the punch.

Ah, so you want to store Ore for later processing?

[Harkback Union]

How would the BoT profit from that?

If I loan out money as their local Martian executor at higher rates but with fixed repayment plans, the Bank could make a better return on its investments than the current 10% forever turnover.

Hah! You arent even planning to repay your own loans...

[Ulls]

Dropping a warehouse for the idea to get 2 per year, either through mining bots and a moon mine, or Lunar Migrants and auto miners. Was going to try and catch up on the industrialization as everyone is beating me to the punch.

Ah, so you want to store Ore for later processing?

That's the plan. Not blessed with having industrial colonies dropping from the Martian sky like "Manna from Heaven". Got to do what I can to survive without being killed in the early game.