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[Hothnia]

Fixed naval numbers and adds to app

[Apror]

Y'all let's agree to something real quick. No treaty of Versailles bs no matter who wins ok?

Of course Versailles BS. It leads to the creations of FASCISM!

*Arms stick out high, then he forces it down, struggling to keep it down* FREEDOM!!!!!!

[Apror]

I literally said they do own it since this is an alternate history RP

Dude, I AM THE US. We don't own the Philippines because we're a bit busy with the CSA down south.....

Plus, in Turtledove's books Japan took the philipines.

*Begins Singing Dixie very loudly*

[Nea Byzantia]

So, realistically speaking, can I have Greek people in majority Greek regions of the Ottoman Empire start armed uprisings, or do I have to post about them smuggling weapons into the country. Realistically, the Ottoman Empire was so corrupt at this point that smuggling of contraband goods into the country is a given and has already happened. If you're wondering which regions, I'm talking about, I'm referring specifically to Thrace (Eastern Thrace if we're using 1913 borders, all of Thrace and Macedonia if we're using 1890 borders), Ionia (West Coast of Anatolia) and Cyprus. Is that ok with you, OP?

[Apror]

So, realistically speaking, can I have Greek people in majority Greek regions of the Ottoman Empire start armed uprisings, or do I have to post about them smuggling weapons into the country. Realistically, the Ottoman Empire was so corrupt at this point that smuggling of contraband goods into the country is a given and has already happened. If you're wondering which regions, I'm talking about, I'm referring specifically to Thrace (Eastern Thrace if we're using 1913 borders, all of Thrace and Macedonia if we're using 1890 borders), Ionia (West Coast of Anatolia) and Cyprus. Is that ok with you, OP?

Yeah, you have time to detail that in the months prior to the WW. I'd do that in that timeframe.

[Nea Byzantia]

So, realistically speaking, can I have Greek people in majority Greek regions of the Ottoman Empire start armed uprisings, or do I have to post about them smuggling weapons into the country. Realistically, the Ottoman Empire was so corrupt at this point that smuggling of contraband goods into the country is a given and has already happened. If you're wondering which regions, I'm talking about, I'm referring specifically to Thrace (Eastern Thrace if we're using 1913 borders, all of Thrace and Macedonia if we're using 1890 borders), Ionia (West Coast of Anatolia) and Cyprus. Is that ok with you, OP?

Yeah, you have time to detail that in the months prior to the WW. I'd do that in that timeframe.

Ok, thanks, I will begin.

[Apror]

Yeah, you have time to detail that in the months prior to the WW. I'd do that in that timeframe.

Ok, thanks, I will begin.

You still need to finish the App, but it looks close.

[The Traansval]

Remember, the Ottomans don't just join right at 1914..... They join the war later, after pressure from the Germans.

[Apror]

Remember, the Ottomans don't just join right at 1914..... They join the war later, after pressure from the Germans.

I remember that very well, I'm just saying he could get involved in some side war if he wishes. The Ottomans played no major role, if he wishes to take their attention, I'll let him.

[Nea Byzantia]

Remember, the Ottomans don't just join right at 1914..... They join the war later, after pressure from the Germans.

Yeah, and Greece only joined in 1917 and that was to fight the Ottomans. Nothing is stopping Greece from fighting the Ottomans on the sidelines while the rest of Europe occupies itself. Besides, the Ottomans and the Germans were aligned at this time. Nobody ever said the war was going to go exactly the way it did IRL, right?
Also, the South successfully seceding from the Union has a butterfly effect on world events, Greeks under Ottoman control would feel more confidant about seceding from the Ottomans, because if the South could do it, why not them? The Armenians would probably do the same.

[Apror]

Remember, the Ottomans don't just join right at 1914..... They join the war later, after pressure from the Germans.

Yeah, and Greece only joined in 1917 and that was to fight the Ottomans. Nothing is stopping Greece from fighting the Ottomans on the sidelines while the rest of Europe occupies itself. Besides, the Ottomans and the Germans were aligned at this time. Nobody ever said the war was going to go exactly the way it did IRL, right?
Also, the South successfully seceding from the Union has a butterfly effect on world events, Greeks under Ottoman control would feel more confidant about seceding from the Ottomans, because if the South could do it, why not them? The Armenians would probably do the same.

Actually the Ottomans while still cool with Germany, they were kinda replaced by the USA. If you War with them, that doesn't reach change tooo much.

[Chewion]

That post is godmodding.

[Nea Byzantia]

Yeah, and Greece only joined in 1917 and that was to fight the Ottomans. Nothing is stopping Greece from fighting the Ottomans on the sidelines while the rest of Europe occupies itself. Besides, the Ottomans and the Germans were aligned at this time. Nobody ever said the war was going to go exactly the way it did IRL, right?
Also, the South successfully seceding from the Union has a butterfly effect on world events, Greeks under Ottoman control would feel more confidant about seceding from the Ottomans, because if the South could do it, why not them? The Armenians would probably do the same.

Actually the Ottomans while still cool with Germany, they were kinda replaced by the USA. If you War with them, that doesn't reach change tooo much.

Fair point. Btw, is Greece at its 1890 borders, or its 1913 borders? As in, are they at their IRL 1913 border? This could have still happened without the Balkan Wars of 1912-13. Perhaps, Greece just liberated more land in the 1820s? I only ask because I want to know how far geographically to extend the revolts.

[Nea Byzantia]

That post is godmodding.

Is it? Cause if so, I'll go and change it.

[Nea Byzantia]

That post is godmodding.

After re-reading that post, I realize you're right. I fixed it, hopefully, its less over-the-top now. Sorry about that, wasn't intentional.

[The Traansval]

Actually the Ottomans while still cool with Germany, they were kinda replaced by the USA. If you War with them, that doesn't reach change tooo much.

Fair point. Btw, is Greece at its 1890 borders, or its 1913 borders? As in, are they at their IRL 1913 border? This could have still happened without the Balkan Wars of 1912-13. Perhaps, Greece just liberated more land in the 1820s? I only ask because I want to know how far geographically to extend the revolts.

Its at 1890 borders. I'd suggest getting up a Coalition and fighting a Balkan War.

[Apror]

That post is godmodding.

Is it? Cause if so, I'll go and change it.

My main question is that I feel your app is missing some stuff, and that I'd prefer a little more preparation for the Rebels and your Army, because I'm going to assume Greece will be at war with the Ottomans soon after.

Actually the Ottomans while still cool with Germany, they were kinda replaced by the USA. If you War with them, that doesn't reach change tooo much.

Fair point. Btw, is Greece at its 1890 borders, or its 1913 borders? As in, are they at their IRL 1913 border? This could have still happened without the Balkan Wars of 1912-13. Perhaps, Greece just liberated more land in the 1820s? I only ask because I want to know how far geographically to extend the revolts.

Their 1890 borders I believe.

[Nea Byzantia]

Fair point. Btw, is Greece at its 1890 borders, or its 1913 borders? As in, are they at their IRL 1913 border? This could have still happened without the Balkan Wars of 1912-13. Perhaps, Greece just liberated more land in the 1820s? I only ask because I want to know how far geographically to extend the revolts.

Its at 1890 borders. I'd suggest getting up a Coalition and fighting a Balkan War.

That sounds like a good idea. Is anyone RPing as Serbia or Bulgaria? Cause if not, how do I make an alliance with them without godmoding? Or does the OP make it happen?

We could solve this conundrum by merely supposing that Greece liberated itself up to its 1913 border in the 1820s, no?

[Apror]

Its at 1890 borders. I'd suggest getting up a Coalition and fighting a Balkan War.

That sounds like a good idea. Is anyone RPing as Serbia or Bulgaria? Cause if not, how do I make an alliance with them without godmoding? Or does the OP make it happen?

We could solve this conundrum by merely supposing that Greece liberated itself up to its 1913 border in the 1820s, no?

I, or someone I designated as player of the A.I will play as them. Though Serbia may be caught up in something soon enough.

[Nea Byzantia]

Is it? Cause if so, I'll go and change it.

My main question is that I feel your app is missing some stuff, and that I'd prefer a little more preparation for the Rebels and your Army, because I'm going to assume Greece will be at war with the Ottomans soon after.

Consider the events in Nikosia as a Storming the Bastille kind of event. Greek uprisings elsewhere in the Ottoman Empire will take preparation, and so I will post on those as well. I might just make one giant post about the rebels in different regions mobilizing and the Greek military mobilizing as well. Does that sound good to you?

As for the minutia left untouched by the App, may I progressively fill that out and still post albeit with limited actions?

[Nea Byzantia]

That sounds like a good idea. Is anyone RPing as Serbia or Bulgaria? Cause if not, how do I make an alliance with them without godmoding? Or does the OP make it happen?

We could solve this conundrum by merely supposing that Greece liberated itself up to its 1913 border in the 1820s, no?

I, or someone I designated as player of the A.I will play as them. Though Serbia may be caught up in something soon enough.

Ok, that works. Also, I could easily see the Greek Revolutions within the Ottoman Empire spill over into Bulgarian occupied Thrace. As a descendant of Greeks from that region, I can tell you that the Greeks were not too thrilled about being under Bulgarian rule, and that opens up a whole other can of worms. I see the RP Balkans and the IRL Balkans being the exact same: a crazy clusterf*ck of wars and ethnic tensions.

[Apror]

My main question is that I feel your app is missing some stuff, and that I'd prefer a little more preparation for the Rebels and your Army, because I'm going to assume Greece will be at war with the Ottomans soon after.

Consider the events in Nikosia as a Storming the Bastille kind of event. Greek uprisings elsewhere in the Ottoman Empire will take preparation, and so I will post on those as well. I might just make one giant post about the rebels in different regions mobilizing and the Greek military mobilizing as well. Does that sound good to you?

As for the minutia left untouched by the App, may I progressively fill that out and still post albeit with limited actions?

Okay, but your actions will be limited Militarily for a while.

[Nea Byzantia]

Consider the events in Nikosia as a Storming the Bastille kind of event. Greek uprisings elsewhere in the Ottoman Empire will take preparation, and so I will post on those as well. I might just make one giant post about the rebels in different regions mobilizing and the Greek military mobilizing as well. Does that sound good to you?

As for the minutia left untouched by the App, may I progressively fill that out and still post albeit with limited actions?

Okay, but your actions will be limited Militarily for a while.

That's ok, the Greek rebel militias in Makedonia and Cyprus should be able to take control of those regions as the Greeks there comprise like 99% of the population. Ionia and Eastern Thrace will be more difficult, especially considering their proximity to the Ottoman capital. As for the Greek military, it will take a few weeks to mobilize and will probably only be active in Makedonia. Cyprus is too far away and the Bulgarian holdings in the middle of Thrace cut off the Greeks from their compatriots in Eastern Thrace.

[Apror]

Okay, but your actions will be limited Militarily for a while.

That's ok, the Greek rebel militias in Makedonia and Cyprus should be able to take control of those regions as the Greeks there comprise like 99% of the population. Ionia and Eastern Thrace will be more difficult, especially considering their proximity to the Ottoman capital. As for the Greek military, it will take a few weeks to mobilize and will probably only be active in Makedonia. Cyprus is too far away and the Bulgarian holdings in the middle of Thrace cut off the Greeks from their compatriots in Eastern Thrace.

Okay, and prepare to have the Greek populations incorporated into your army for the Ottomans won't sit ideally by as this all happens, a counterattack will eventually happen.

[Chewion]

That post is godmodding.

After re-reading that post, I realize you're right. I fixed it, hopefully, its less over-the-top now. Sorry about that, wasn't intentional.

Your fine.