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Apror
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 12:56 pm

Chewion wrote:The land I am taking is important tho.

Obviously.

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Apror wrote:So how many millions of Russians died? And I'm assuming you're going to be taking even more territory than they lost in real life.

He will have a big f up. Lots will die. And I'm not taking much land from him permanently.

It can't be just one fuck up unless somehow 1 Million die in one battle.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:04 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:The land I am taking is important tho.

Obviously.

Chewion wrote:He will have a big f up. Lots will die. And I'm not taking much land from him permanently.

It can't be just one fuck up unless somehow 1 Million die in one battle.

Did I say that one thing alone does that? No it just leads it to happening.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:08 pm

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:Obviously.


It can't be just one fuck up unless somehow 1 Million die in one battle.

Did I say that one thing alone does that? No it just leads it to happening.

So basically they fuck up even harder than in this RP. In the book, the Russians performed better leading to them not becoming a Communist Nations when it eventually happened. If he performs worse, White and Red armies will be even tougher to beat.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:10 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:Did I say that one thing alone does that? No it just leads it to happening.

So basically they fuck up even harder than in this RP. In the book, the Russians performed better leading to them not becoming a Communist Nations when it eventually happened. If he performs worse, White and Red armies will be even tougher to beat.

Man why do you have to micro-manage everyone? I got everyone to agree to WW1 and here you are trying to impose your absolute will on them. Let them decide their own choices man. I'm sorry to blow up like this but you seem to just want us to follow your dang script.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:20 pm

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:So basically they fuck up even harder than in this RP. In the book, the Russians performed better leading to them not becoming a Communist Nations when it eventually happened. If he performs worse, White and Red armies will be even tougher to beat.

Man why do you have to micro-manage everyone? I got everyone to agree to WW1 and here you are trying to impose your absolute will on them. Let them decide their own choices man. I'm sorry to blow up like this but you seem to just want us to follow your dang script.

I'm just saying realistically. You know what. I'm also making it so everyone realizes WW1 is a war with major consequences, and is supposed to lay down the foundation for how this RP moves forward. Chewy, stop talking to allied countries, and ill deal with them. I want people to try to win the war, not give up before they even try fighting it. I'm willing to lessen the blow for any country who looses the ww, but if someone gives up, they better be ready to work their ass of to get back what they lost because the blow will not be lessened. It will be amplified. I want the RP to be settled IC, not some OOC deals which is why I'm being so uptight.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:28 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:Man why do you have to micro-manage everyone? I got everyone to agree to WW1 and here you are trying to impose your absolute will on them. Let them decide their own choices man. I'm sorry to blow up like this but you seem to just want us to follow your dang script.

I'm just saying realistically. You know what. I'm also making it so everyone realizes WW1 is a war with major consequences, and is supposed to lay down the foundation for how this RP moves forward. Chewy, stop talking to allied countries, and ill deal with them. I want people to try to win the war, not give up before they even try fighting it. I'm willing to lessen the blow for any country who looses the ww, but if someone gives up, they better be ready to work their ass of to get back what they lost because the blow will not be lessened. It will be amplified. I want the RP to be settled IC, not some OOC deals which is why I'm being so uptight.

I made those deals because people didn't want to do WW1. I got them to do WW1.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:31 pm

Can we just start the war so we can get it over with? I'm sorry if I made you mad but I did what I had to do to get everyone what they wanted.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:35 pm

Chewion wrote:Can we just start the war so we can get it over with? I'm sorry if I made you mad but I did what I had to do to get everyone what they wanted.

*sighs* I'm getting it started tomorrow, but if everyone happens to be on tonight, we can start it tonight, or whenever people are on.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Sat May 13, 2017 1:36 pm

Chewion wrote:The land I am taking is important tho.


So is it set in stone that the Russian Empire will become the Soviet Union, or could Tsar Alexander III work out some kind of Constitutional Monarchy thing? Also, long term, would it be ok for Greece to get Constantinople back and essentially rebirth the Byzantine Empire?

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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:37 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Chewion wrote:The land I am taking is important tho.


So is it set in stone that the Russian Empire will become the Soviet Union, or could Tsar Alexander III work out some kind of Constitutional Monarchy thing? Also, long term, would it be ok for Greece to get Constantinople back and essentially rebirth the Byzantine Empire?

I will help him fight the Commies. So it is highly unlikely he will become a communist nation.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:40 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Chewion wrote:The land I am taking is important tho.


So is it set in stone that the Russian Empire will become the Soviet Union, or could Tsar Alexander III work out some kind of Constitutional Monarchy thing? Also, long term, would it be ok for Greece to get Constantinople back and essentially rebirth the Byzantine Empire?

Sure, why not. Also, maybe. Idk about the Russians at this point.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Sat May 13, 2017 1:43 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:Can we just start the war so we can get it over with? I'm sorry if I made you mad but I did what I had to do to get everyone what they wanted.

*sighs* I'm getting it started tomorrow, but if everyone happens to be on tonight, we can start it tonight, or whenever people are on.


Unfortunately, I will be gone for most of tomorrow, so could I start the Greek uprisings very soon (ie. late tonight)? Also a WWI type scenario is nigh unavoidable with all the tensions rising. People need to let go of hindsight and play as the nation would. In that sense, WWI will occur. But in terms of when, how and who will win, that is unknown. Removing a strong and united America from the picture means its anybody's game. Anything can happen, and that's the beauty of it all.

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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:44 pm

Ok so let's agree on this deal.
1. Whoever looses will not have to pay high amounts of money.
2. They won't loose large amounts of land.
3. They will have a say in the negotiations.
4. No military restrictions.

Sound good?
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Sat May 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Chewion wrote:Ok so let's agree on this deal.
1. Whoever looses will not have to pay high amounts of money.
2. They won't loose large amounts of land.
3. They will have a say in the negotiations.
4. No military restrictions.

Sound good?


Or we could not make deals. If certain countries make stupid decisions in how they deal with conquered nations, they'll have to pay the piper down the road.

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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:49 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:*sighs* I'm getting it started tomorrow, but if everyone happens to be on tonight, we can start it tonight, or whenever people are on.


Unfortunately, I will be gone for most of tomorrow, so could I start the Greek uprisings very soon (ie. late tonight)? Also a WWI type scenario is nigh unavoidable with all the tensions rising. People need to let go of hindsight and play as the nation would. In that sense, WWI will occur. But in terms of when, how and who will win, that is unknown. Removing a strong and united America from the picture means its anybody's game. Anything can happen, and that's the beauty of it all.

Well it's kinda hard when all the allies are trying not to fight except me and GB. France and Russia are unknown apparently. I'll talk with my allies.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Chewion wrote:Ok so let's agree on this deal.
1. Whoever looses will not have to pay high amounts of money.
2. They won't loose large amounts of land.
3. They will have a say in the negotiations.
4. No military restrictions.

Sound good?


Or we could not make deals. If certain countries make stupid decisions in how they deal with conquered nations, they'll have to pay the piper down the road.

No outright getting conquered, but I feel we need a reason for someone to get mad enough for ww2.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:51 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Unfortunately, I will be gone for most of tomorrow, so could I start the Greek uprisings very soon (ie. late tonight)? Also a WWI type scenario is nigh unavoidable with all the tensions rising. People need to let go of hindsight and play as the nation would. In that sense, WWI will occur. But in terms of when, how and who will win, that is unknown. Removing a strong and united America from the picture means its anybody's game. Anything can happen, and that's the beauty of it all.

Well it's kinda hard when all the allies are trying not to fight except me and GB. France and Russia are unknown apparently. I'll talk with my allies.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Or we could not make deals. If certain countries make stupid decisions in how they deal with conquered nations, they'll have to pay the piper down the road.

No outright getting conquered, but I feel we need a reason for someone to get mad enough for ww2.

No Versailles bs. That is what that deal amounts to.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 1:52 pm

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:Well it's kinda hard when all the allies are trying not to fight except me and GB. France and Russia are unknown apparently. I'll talk with my allies.


No outright getting conquered, but I feel we need a reason for someone to get mad enough for ww2.

No Versailles bs. That is what that deal amounts to.

Not Versailles, but enough where a more tame version of Hitler could arise.
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Postby Chewion » Sat May 13, 2017 1:58 pm

Apror wrote:
Chewion wrote:No Versailles bs. That is what that deal amounts to.

Not Versailles, but enough where a more tame version of Hitler could arise.

Not in Germany. I refuse to have him. Kaiser Wilhelm will be staying in power no matter what.
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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 2:01 pm

Chewion wrote:
Apror wrote:Not Versailles, but enough where a more tame version of Hitler could arise.

Not in Germany. I refuse to have him. Kaiser Wilhelm will be staying in power no matter what.

I'm not talking about Germany, but a Jake Featherston may be in our future. (Read enough of the series, you'll get to know him. And fucking hate him, but in this RP, he'll be more tame.)
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Sat May 13, 2017 2:07 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Unfortunately, I will be gone for most of tomorrow, so could I start the Greek uprisings very soon (ie. late tonight)? Also a WWI type scenario is nigh unavoidable with all the tensions rising. People need to let go of hindsight and play as the nation would. In that sense, WWI will occur. But in terms of when, how and who will win, that is unknown. Removing a strong and united America from the picture means its anybody's game. Anything can happen, and that's the beauty of it all.

Well it's kinda hard when all the allies are trying not to fight except me and GB. France and Russia are unknown apparently. I'll talk with my allies.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Or we could not make deals. If certain countries make stupid decisions in how they deal with conquered nations, they'll have to pay the piper down the road.

No outright getting conquered, but I feel we need a reason for someone to get mad enough for ww2.


Someone will find some reason to start WW2. It doesn't need to be Hitler, it doesn't even need to be Germany. For God's sake Brazil could start WW2. Who knows? Let's just leave the future to itself and mind the current situation.

As it stands, I know I'm allies with Russia and Serbia. That's it. Chances are I could be friends with Italy too as we're both Mediterranean countries with common interests. One thing is for certain, the Ottomans are f*cked, both up and over. Germany and Greece would probably have a sh*tty relationship come to think of it. You see back in the 1830s, after winning the war for its independence, Greece had a king imposed on them by the Great Powers. The king they chose was a pretentious German aristocrat, Otto of Bavaria. He ruled the country for circa 30 years before being expulsed. He was such a crappy ruler that it negatively impacted Greece's view of Germany (I'm talking about real history here).

The only difference for Greece in the RP, is that Otto of Bavaria was thrown out in 1843 by a Revolution and replaced by a local Greek general. This general took the title Emperor Constantine XII (Emperor Constantine XI was the last Byzantine emperor, and he died during the Battle of Constantinople in 1453, when the Ottomans first took the city). The fact that Otto was overthrown in a Revolution, means Greece and Germany probably don't like each other too much.

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Postby Hothnia » Sat May 13, 2017 2:21 pm

I'm thinking about invading the Netherlands. I don't know why.

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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 2:22 pm

Hothnia wrote:I'm thinking about invading the Netherlands. I don't know why.

It's a bad idea.
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Postby Hothnia » Sat May 13, 2017 2:25 pm

Apror wrote:
Hothnia wrote:I'm thinking about invading the Netherlands. I don't know why.

It's a bad idea.



I can win. More land for Belgium!

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Postby Greater Belarussia » Sat May 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Hothnia wrote:I'm thinking about invading the Netherlands. I don't know why.



WHO are you again?

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Postby Apror » Sat May 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Greater Belarussia wrote:
Hothnia wrote:I'm thinking about invading the Netherlands. I don't know why.



WHO are you again?

Belgium.

Hothnia wrote:
Apror wrote:It's a bad idea.



I can win. More land for Belgium!

[size=50]Pacific Colonies....[/size]

I think you mean land that will be snatched up by Imperial Japan.
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