Truth Incarnate wrote:Request for Acceptance of Reapplication of Eridan Ampora
As of a late discussion that was, unfortunately, unable to come to a decisive conclusion to the issue at hand of exactly how strong Eridan was in regards to other characters, various misconceptions and omissions were brought up that need to be corrected, or retroactively changed. This re-application is, essentially, "Setting up, and knocking them down", where Eridan is the "them" in that saying.
The current state of Eridan is as a champion of Tzeentch, and as a fully realised Hope player. This makes him a great deal more powerful than at any point when he legitimately appeared in Homestuck (his origin), and thus, this text is meant to request that his application and statistics be amended as follows, with suitable justification provided. Should some logic be considered refutable, then suspend belief, or assume it was by Tzeentch's hand. Specific interpretations of his abilities are equally justifiable, and thus, should not be used as argumentative points.
Most importantly, Eridan’s power at this level will be incredibly short lived. He will fight only a few necessary fights while at this level, and shortly thereafter, will confront his ultimate defeaters, and lose all of his abilities, sans the possession of Ahab’s Crosshairs. While in this state, he will be a villain. He will only become a "neutral" character once he's been abandoned by Tzeentch, and beaten at the hands of his attackers/Kadoor's defenders, losing an arm and the majority of his physical abilities in the process. In effect, he will be weaker than ever before, in canon, and in the RP.
This entire arc is a meta-joke about "power" at the expense of a certain Ampora.
Amended Application
Name: Eridan Ampora
Ancient One Half blood?: No
Species: Alternian Troll
Age: 8-9 solar sweeps (equivalent to 16 terrestrial years)
Appearance: Generally wears a purple cape, a purple-black set of striped pants, blue-magenta shoes with laces, a black shirt with the Aquarius Zodiac symbol on it, and a set of squarish glasses. He has grey skin, thunderbolt shaped horns extending from his head, and large fin-like growths on the side of his face.
Gender: Male
Powers/abilities:
Biologically, Eridan is superhuman, at the very least, being a Troll Seadweller - both classifications that lend towards enhanced physical abilities. Trolls themselves are considerably more physically capable than humans, and higher castes (To which Eridan belongs to the penultimate on the scale) are far stronger than those lower on the hemospectrum (A caste system based on blood colour). As a sea-dweller, he is able to breathe in most oxygenated liquids, and has a higher tolerance for salt and toxins - also capable of drinking salt water with few negative effects.
Eridan, as a Prince of Hope, is essentially the manifestation of “Unstoppable Force”. This is an analogy made by Aranea, and extremely present when Jake English, a only recently realised Page of Hope, manages to overpower Jade Harley - an individual, who at that time, was capable of shrinking planets to the size of basketballs, and throwing objects around at light speed with relative ease.
This makes Eridan an incredibly powerful individual, with an essentially unrivalled capacity for power. While it does not necessarily augment his durability, as an (artificially) realised Hero of Hope, he has been granted an immense amount of power through Hope. Other interpretations of Hope are also “achievement through illogicality”, allowing Heroes of Hope to affect the world around them despite reality, such as how Eridan’s “Wand” manages to be more powerful than the most powerful rifle in Homestuck, despite the fact that it’s an entirely mundane wooden stick - fuelled entirely by Eridan’s belief in its power.
Eridan, essentially, is a nigh omnikinetic. He is able to fire beams of Hope - in one case, before his realisation, overpowering Sollux, who was a psionic capable of casually throwing around city-sized meteors at light speed (With some help from Aradia, though it is likely that most of the effort was on Sollux’s part, considering his ancestry and specific blood caste), and firing beams from his eyes that were more powerful than Ahab’s Crosshairs - “The most powerful God Weapon that the strife specibus will even allow!”. While in Homestuck, he was only able to utilise Hope for offensive, destructive purposes, as of his full realisation and imbuement with power on the part of Tzeentch, he is now capable of using it for almost any purpose, with a certain degree of dexterity.
Eridan also has access to Tzeentch’s psionic abilities, to a certain extent. He is able to overtly influence the psyche and decisions of those around him - though almost always through brute force, and never without the target noticing. This allowed him to, at one point, force a group of individuals not to attack him while he was speaking to them. His connection to Tzeentch also grants him greater intelligence, and a certain degree of directed omniscience, where he can discover most information through inquiry and inference.
In terms of hard statistics, Eridan has vastly supersonic reaction times (He had a greater reaction to Kanaya than Gamzee and Vriska, both of whom were known to be incredibly fast - especially the Faster-Than-The-Eye Gamzee, who was able to flash-step too fast for the already superhuman Terezi to register, and was able to deal more damage to the Black King than all the other trolls combined, without anybody actually seeing what he did), superhuman durability (That can reach the same heights as his Attack Potency, should he augment it with his Hope based abilities) and superhuman strength. He can move at similarly vastly supersonic speeds, especially when his physical abilities are augmented by self-propulsion through Hope, and the side-effects of Tzeentch's blessing.
Weaknesses: As a basic Troll Seadweller, Eridan’s physical abilities alone are rather unimpressive. However, as a realised Sgrub Player, his physical capabilities may actually be far higher than what is expected - especially since John Egbert, after just playing the game for a few hours, was already able to wield car-sized hammers with casual ease. Furthermore, as seen by Jade Harley and Dave Strider, high-level Sgrub Players may be able to register movement and react to it at vastly increased rates - possibly at speeds exceeding the speed of light, in some circumstances. This will obviously not actually influence the timescale upon which he operates, however.
Attack Potency: At least planet level. Eridan himself can already destroy mountains using Hope, at the very least (Exceeding Sollux in power, who was able to move a city to mountain sized rock around at light-speed), and may be capable of destroying entire continents, if scaling is to be taken at face value (Eridan was considered the equal of Gamzee and Vriska. The former dealt more damage to The Black King than any of the other trolls, making him at least as strong as Equius and Sollux - of which Equius was so strong that he moved skyscraper sized buildings by accident). Furthermore, Eridan was capable of equalling Vriska, who in turn, was as strong as John Egbert, who was able to harm Bec Noir (A demipotent god with the same abilities as Jade Harley, who shattered twelve mid-sized planets “For Fun”), albeit to a low degree. As of his current state, he is far more powerful than Vriska, making him even greater than what his canon feats would imply.
Equipment: Ahab’s Crosshairs - the most powerful rifle in Homestuck, and a legendary weapon that, when scaled to Sollux Captor and possibly The Flourite Octet, is capable of firing superheated beams of energy several metres wide, for several kilometres, with the power of a large nuclear bomb.
The Empiricist’s Wand, a stick that Kanaya Maryam once made for Eridan, which he believed to be a powerful “Science Wand”. It has no bearing on his abilities, but is often utilised by him under the impression that it is responsible for his ability to fire “Science Beams”.
Universe of Origin: Homestuck
Affiliation: Evil, believing himself to be Good
Meta-Reasons for Revision:
Eridan’s arc is essentially his realisation that individual power and destructive potential is not the final measure of capacity, nor is capacity and competency the final measure of success. His journey is one of gaining immense power through Tzeentch, and working towards the reincarnation of The Alternian Empire - a notably noble goal, which is partially motivated by his desire to reunite with Feferi, who would be revived along with the rest of his race.
The reason for his power, is to lose it at a later date. All precautions to prevent overuse of Eridan’s abilities will be undertaken, and when he does lose his power, he will also lose Tzeentch’s influence, his Hope abilities, and a great deal of other faculties and abilities.
The point of this reexamination of his abilities is not in order to make him insanely powerful, and thus unbeatable. It is part of his arc, wherein he becomes powerful, and shortly thereafter, falls to a point below where he was when he began. His power will not be used to instantly defeat or crush all opposition, but it will be used in order to demonstrate that as an individual, he is now comparable to several heroes - setting up his eventual defeat by The Troll Squad (and possibly a few others).
Eridan is, essentially an exploration of hubris, and the failure of power to grant happiness. It becomes apparent that far from wanting to revive Alternia for the sake of doing so, he's only doing it so that he can get together with previously lost friends, and rule over the entire planet as a God, who'd conquer the universe with the physically and psionically superior Troll race. His end goal, thus, is not bringing back his dead species, but instead, gaining an infinite amount of power, and fulfilling his genocidal dreams.
While he becomes inordinately powerful, he fails to feel good about himself, and is slowly driven insane by the spectre of his previous compatriots, who mentally haunt him later on, after having a particularly jarring conversation with Pobeda and Kadoor. He becomes disillusioned with his role as the person to cultivate and eventually destroy Kadoor, though this only fuels his envy and belligerence towards all parties, rather than being a realisation in any way for him.
After some time, he goes to face Kadoor and her friends, and discovers that alone, he's actually far more powerful than even their massed capacities. Soon thereafter however,
he realises that Kadoor has a much greater support than him. As he slowly loses the battle, he realises that he's actually entirely alone in his endeavour, and that even Vriska has turned against him - an uncharacteristically lethal attempt on his life, for a Kismesis. He becomes increasingly incoherent as he fights, eventually desperately pleading his opposition to let him kill them, even though he's still actively attempting to murder them in gruesome ways.
He ends the battle having run away. After hiding for some time, and going through a crisis of conscience, Tzeentch leaves him. It's left ambiguous as to whether this was Tzeentch's plan all along, or if Eridan simply failed, and thus was abandoned as punishment. He realises that alone, he's almost entirely powerless. His previous ideals are unchanged however, and he becomes incredibly fearful of Kadoor, as well as baleful for preventing him from reviving Alternia.
Eridan however, loses Tzeentch's blessing, and in his crisis (Where he re-evaluates the actual efficacy of "power" and individualism - two things he used to hold in extremely high regard), he loses his ability to use Hope. He's grievously injured and bleeding - and loses his left arm, but in what he believes to be his final act, he finds Kadoor,
and forces her to shoot him. When she refuses, he breaks down, and asks her why she won't do it. She doesn't reply, but Eridan thinks that it's because she's too hateful of him to even kill him when he wants it. Subsequently, he puts Ahab's Crosshairs to his chest, and fires. Alternatively, she fires, and leaves him for dead - but he survives, and manages to find Vriska, who reluctantly helps him not die.
After that, he makes a slow recovery under Vriska's supervision (Albeit in a very begrudging way, and in order to "Toughen him up"), where he retains Ahab's Crosshairs,
but loses all of his Hope based abilities, is physically damaged and mentally unstable. It's all very edgy, but the point is to show that Eridan is, hilariously, breaking down because he can't re conciliate his own values with his own wants and the events of reality - something that he was entirely oblivious to during Homestuck.
Essentially, Eridan's "power" is a negative trait. He feels invulnerable because of it, and acts however he wants because being "powerful" makes him invincible, and not subject to consequences. As a result, he loses not only his power later on, but also the support and potential for alliance in everyone around him, and even the chance at redeeming himself by bringing back Alternia.Name: Eridan Ampora
Ancient One Half blood?: No
Species: Alternian Troll
Age: 8-9 solar sweeps (equivalent to 16 terrestrial years)
Appearance: Generally wears a purple cape, a purple-black set of striped pants, blue-magenta shoes with laces, a black shirt with the Aquarius Zodiac symbol on it, and a set of squarish glasses. He has grey skin, thunderbolt shaped horns extending from his head, and large fin-like growths on the side of his face. He is missing his left arm.
Gender: Male
Powers/abilities: Biologically, Eridan is superhuman, at the very least, being a Troll Seadweller - both classifications that lend towards enhanced physical abilities. Trolls themselves are considerably more physically capable than humans, and higher castes (To which Eridan belongs to the penultimate on the scale) are far stronger than those lower on the hemospectrum (A caste system based on blood colour). As a sea-dweller, he is able to breathe in most oxygenated liquids, and has a higher tolerance for salt and toxins - also capable of drinking salt water with few negative effects.
In terms of hard statistics, Eridan has vastly supersonic reaction times (He had a greater reaction to Kanaya than Gamzee and Vriska, both of whom were known to be incredibly fast - especially the Faster-Than-The-Eye Gamzee, who was able to flash-step too fast for the already superhuman Terezi to register, and was able to deal more damage to the Black King than all the other trolls combined, without anybody actually seeing what he did) and superhuman durability. In terms of movement speed, he can travel at superhuman speeds to supersonic speeds as well, based on scaling to Feferi and Nepeta.
Weaknesses: Eridan is barely a superhuman, and has only one functioning arm. As such, he is vulnerable to most attacks that would kill a human, and severely outmatched in close-quarters combat. Furthermore, he's unable to hold his rifle properly, and thus his aim suffers significantly.
Attack Potency: City level, considering the force with which Ahab's Crosshairs can fire. Physically, he's probably low wall level.
Equipment: Ahab’s Crosshairs - the most powerful rifle in Homestuck, and a legendary weapon that, when scaled to Sollux Captor and possibly The Flourite Octet, is capable of firing superheated beams of energy several metres wide, for several kilometres, with the power of a large nuclear bomb.
Universe of Origin: Homestuck
Affiliation: Neutral, though his actions tend to benefit the heroes more than the villains.
Request DENIED
