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[RNT]

While I question the number of War Galleys you have, with the number of men for each, I'll just say they're a smaller and less powerful and could be better, though not useless and worthy enough in battle. Regardless, it looks good, your numbers are accepted I'd think.

They are smaller and faster than traditional galleys as we prefer speed and maneuverability over size.

[Republic Of Varra]

Keep in mind, that numbers don't always mean win in Europe.

Look at Sweden. They kicked ass and they never had like above 1.2 million people. But I intend on France taking back it's land, keep in mind.

[Apror]

Keep in mind, that numbers don't always mean win in Europe.

Look at Sweden. They kicked ass and they never had like above 1.2 million people. But I intend on France taking back it's land, keep in mind.

Oh yeah, trust me, I'm well aware, but also keep in mind the English's main advantage was the Arrow, which I stated we adjusted to by switching to Infrantry tactics, and formations made to take Arrow fire.

[Republic Of Varra]

Keep in mind, that numbers don't always mean win in Europe.

Look at Sweden. They kicked ass and they never had like above 1.2 million people. But I intend on France taking back it's land, keep in mind.

Oh yeah, trust me, I'm well aware, but also keep in mind the English's main advantage was the Arrow, which I stated we adjusted to by switching to Infrantry tactics, and formations made to take Arrow fire.

Exactly. That's why I'm suggesting for the English lose dominance on the ground earlier than 1364, as in our timeline.

[Apror]

While I question the number of War Galleys you have, with the number of men for each, I'll just say they're a smaller and less powerful and could be better, though not useless and worthy enough in battle. Regardless, it looks good, your numbers are accepted I'd think.

They are smaller and faster than traditional galleys as we prefer speed and maneuverability over size.

K, but if a ship like one of mine rams head on, it's going down, or sinking will soon follow. And boarding parties usually outnumber your crews.

[Republic Of Varra]

I'm also going to be implementing music to listen to during IC posts.

Example for English Naval Battles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox-xs61dmU

[Apror]

Oh yeah, trust me, I'm well aware, but also keep in mind the English's main advantage was the Arrow, which I stated we adjusted to by switching to Infrantry tactics, and formations made to take Arrow fire.

Exactly. That's why I'm suggesting for the English lose dominance on the ground earlier than 1364, as in our timeline.

Okay, want to have some dramatic battle where the French army introduces field cannons, and some huge victory?

[Apror]

I'm also going to be implementing music to listen to during IC posts.

Example for English Naval Battles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox-xs61dmU

Nice, so my Navy has quite a lot of ships, but most in the Mediterranean. I'm trying to provide the specifics for what my Navy fields, can you TG me some suggestions Varra?

[Republic Of Varra]

I'm also going to be implementing music to listen to during IC posts.

Example for English Naval Battles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox-xs61dmU

Nice, so my Navy has quite a lot of ships, but most in the Mediterranean. I'm trying to provide the specifics for what my Navy fields, can you TG me some suggestions Varra?

That's what I'm counting on, though I am putting in that the English have just overall better tactics that will give them the upper hand in Naval Battles due to their... well, experience with shipping. Come on, it's an island. Well two if you count Ireland as well.

What kind of specifics?

[Apror]

Nice, so my Navy has quite a lot of ships, but most in the Mediterranean. I'm trying to provide the specifics for what my Navy fields, can you TG me some suggestions Varra?

That's what I'm counting on, though I am putting in that the English have just overall better tactics that will give them the upper hand in Naval Battles due to their... well, experience with shipping. Come on, it's an island. Well two if you count Ireland as well.

What kind of specifics?

They do have that, but we battled the Romans, and do a lot of trade through the Mediterranean, so we're not stupid. Also, I'm not sure how much the navy will matter if they already have most the Northern Coast. I don't plan to necessarily bring my Navy all the way around to battle them so ehh.

Basically cutting edge types of war ships during the time, and ones going up to 70 years in advance.

[Republic Of Varra]

That's what I'm counting on, though I am putting in that the English have just overall better tactics that will give them the upper hand in Naval Battles due to their... well, experience with shipping. Come on, it's an island. Well two if you count Ireland as well.

What kind of specifics?

They do have that, but we battled the Romans, and do a lot of trade through the Mediterranean, so we're not stupid. Also, I'm not sure how much the navy will matter if they already have most the Northern Coast. I don't plan to necessarily bring my Navy all the way around to battle them so ehh.

Basically cutting edge types of war ships during the time, and ones going up to 70 years in advance.

Alrighty. By the way I will also post the Japanese/Chinese ships here as well:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... c47770.jpg

https://www.gonautical.com/4762-tm_thic ... k-boat.jpg

http://www.enjoyvietnamtravel.com/Uploa ... 0junk3.jpg

Really cool ships.

[Republic Of Varra]

Anyway, European ships never really changed much from the 1350s-the late 1400s besides the addition of cannon holes. That's about the only difference I can find.

[Apror]

They do have that, but we battled the Romans, and do a lot of trade through the Mediterranean, so we're not stupid. Also, I'm not sure how much the navy will matter if they already have most the Northern Coast. I don't plan to necessarily bring my Navy all the way around to battle them so ehh.

Basically cutting edge types of war ships during the time, and ones going up to 70 years in advance.

Alrighty. By the way I will also post the Japanese/Chinese ships here as well:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... c47770.jpg

https://www.gonautical.com/4762-tm_thic ... k-boat.jpg

http://www.enjoyvietnamtravel.com/Uploa ... 0junk3.jpg

Really cool ships.

Goddamit! Muh School Ipad isn't allowing it to show! Also, sure thing with the Sino/Jap ships. Looking forward to see them.

[Republic Of Varra]

The only real things I can find on late European ships is that they are duel powered by oars and sails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_ ... dle_Ages_2

[Republic Of Varra]

AHA! Found something!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrack

Early Carracks were Oar/Sail based and by the late 1400s they were more sail based! Ha ha! I found it!

[Republic Of Varra]

However, the Cog ship was used the most frequently by Western Europeans at the times from 1300s-1400s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cog_(ship)#History

[Republic Of Varra]

I swear to God if a giant naval battle doesn't happen between Japan/England/France in the future I'm going to feel ripped off.

[Apror]

I swear to God if a giant naval battle doesn't happen between Japan/England/France in the future I'm going to feel ripped off.

If those three Countries are involved, my Money says France and England are working together. Also, I'm using them ships.

[Apror]

AHA! Found something!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrack

Early Carracks were Oar/Sail based and by the late 1400s they were more sail based! Ha ha! I found it!

Muh Bueno!

[Apror]

So I'm assuming these ships are capable if Naval Warfare? Even some with Cannons?

[Republic Of Varra]

So I'm assuming these ships are capable if Naval Warfare? Even some with Cannons?

Cannons wouldn't be used in ships until the end of the 1400s to the mid 1500s. Too far in the future.

These ships, however, are capable of warfare, in the sense of raiding the other peoples ships when close enough. And also the choice of ramming, throwing explosives via by hand, or though arrows.

[Apror]

So I'm assuming these ships are capable if Naval Warfare? Even some with Cannons?

Cannons wouldn't be used in ships until the end of the 1400s to the mid 1500s. Too far in the future.

These ships, however, are capable of warfare, in the sense of raiding the other peoples ships when close enough.

So what roles do you think would be appropriate, and how many would be justified to be had in my Naval Forces?

[RNT]

What would the population of Jeddah be in 1350? I was guessing maybe 10,000 if not less.

[Republic Of Varra]

Cannons wouldn't be used in ships until the end of the 1400s to the mid 1500s. Too far in the future.

These ships, however, are capable of warfare, in the sense of raiding the other peoples ships when close enough.

So what roles do you think would be appropriate, and how many would be justified to be had in my Naval Forces?

Re-read the above, as I edited it.

[Apror]

What would the population of Jeddah be in 1350? I was guessing maybe 10,000 if not less.

I wouldn't know, but you take a guess.