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[Apror]

Another thing, if I have a better Navy, and defeat theirs, as long as theirs is gone, and destroy some of their Major ports, and possibly their waterfronts. At that point, they're not able to carry on their war with me cause their stuck on their island, and I just keep supplying their rivals, and raiding their ports to prevent Naval build up.

[Nuverikstan]

Another thing, if I have a better Navy, and defeat theirs, as long as theirs is gone, and destroy some of their Major ports, and possibly their waterfronts. At that point, they're not able to carry on their war with me cause their stuck on their island, and I just keep supplying their rivals, and raiding their ports to prevent Naval build up.

In going to say, you had a better navy than historical France, but not a better navy than England. You also are missing a lot of Atlantic coastal land, with most of your ports being in the Mediterranean. I believe, that by 1400-1410, you could knock the English off the continent. However, if you pursue them to the British Isles, they will wreck your army and navy.

[Apror]

Another thing, if I have a better Navy, and defeat theirs, as long as theirs is gone, and destroy some of their Major ports, and possibly their waterfronts. At that point, they're not able to carry on their war with me cause their stuck on their island, and I just keep supplying their rivals, and raiding their ports to prevent Naval build up.

In going to say, you had a better navy than historical France, but not a better navy than England. You also are missing a lot of Atlantic coastal land, with most of your ports being in the Mediterranean. I believe, that by 1400-1410, you could knock the English off the continent. However, if you pursue them to the British Isles, they will wreck your army and navy.

That seems reasonable, though I still want to know if I can get them distracted. Not necessarily a......Invasion I guess. Whatever. Okay, so how's the war going to work?

[RNT]

1. Ever heard of the hollow earth theory? Yeah, that's where the Dutch people are, and they are in the quintillions!
2. I know you got a better navy and are better at fighting, but I would just leave England be, if I were you. If you assault England's mainland, I would say they have the upper hand and beat you back.

1. I wonder if there are septillions of Natives too.......
No, I don't want to invade England. I just want to hurt their Naval capacity for a good while, and help defend one of their Neighboring Kingdoms and frustrate them. They and their neighbors hate each other, most notable Scotland, though Wales could serve well as a Vassal/Protectorate.

I will give you half of my mederteraniaian Fleet to help you fight the British if in turn you will teach them the glorious ways of the French navy so they can help me with my navy when there done.

[Apror]

1. I wonder if there are septillions of Natives too.......
No, I don't want to invade England. I just want to hurt their Naval capacity for a good while, and help defend one of their Neighboring Kingdoms and frustrate them. They and their neighbors hate each other, most notable Scotland, though Wales could serve well as a Vassal/Protectorate.

I will give you half of my mederteraniaian Fleet to help you fight the British if in turn you will teach them the glorious ways of the French navy so they can help me with my navy when there done.

Well I don't know, but the Navy it not the real problem, man power is (Though I'm much more populous than England.)

[Apror]

Shit, I feel bad for France. France's pop at the time was 20 mil (so I need to adjust my app) but England was only a couple mil. 2 and a half. So basically the English were Bad asses during the 100 years war.

[Republic Of Varra]

Ah. Watching Europe scuffle navies while min grows to the largest of the game.

[RNT]

Ah. Watching Europe scuffle navies while min grows to the largest of the game.

I'm not sure if you ever saw my post of my borders but if you get a chance can you look and edit the ones on the map.

[Apror]

Ah. Watching Europe scuffle navies while min grows to the largest of the game.

Well mine continues to become more and more advanced. Size isn't everything........even in bed. Regardless, I plan Naval dominion on my side of the world, and Technologically world wide. Also, it seems like a lot of places that could have Navies over there, and I'm going to make China's client states open for application. That's a lot of possible players. China, you still have whatever power you hade over them as NPCs, but if some one applies, they'll either gain complete independence. Or they have to fight for it.

[Apror]

Ah. Watching Europe scuffle navies while min grows to the largest of the game.

I'm not sure if you ever saw my post of my borders but if you get a chance can you look and edit the ones on the map.

Get the quote if you will?

[RNT]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... 983562&z=4]

My actual borders.

The URL didn't work.

[Apror]

[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1_HrmHbo7FpKDe7u0iCXVOQqMWSM&ll=27.51953773004423%2C32.38506236983562&z=4][/url]

My actual borders.

The URL didn't work.

Yeah, it did not.

You have to put the URL in the first box, and a = sign connecting it.

[Apror]

You can just paste it without the URL box though.

[RNT]

Now it works.

[Walrusvylon]

How did you make the map in the OP? I must know, I have decided to become a cartographer for P2tM.

[Apror]

How did you make the map in the OP? I must know, I have decided to become a cartographer for P2tM.

For what?

[Republic Of Varra]

Ah. Watching Europe scuffle navies while min grows to the largest of the game.

Well mine continues to become more and more advanced. Size isn't everything........even in bed. Regardless, I plan Naval dominion on my side of the world, and Technologically world wide. Also, it seems like a lot of places that could have Navies over there, and I'm going to make China's client states open for application. That's a lot of possible players. China, you still have whatever power you hade over them as NPCs, but if some one applies, they'll either gain complete independence. Or they have to fight for it.

You wont have much of a technological advantage until ironclads in the late 1800s come along. I have ships that are relatively equal to European ships. The upsides are that Japanese ships are faster while European ships have better hulls for defensive strategies.

I do have the largest navy however not all ships are updated.

[Republic Of Varra]

Posted in the IC. Didn't post a very ornate post like I had hoped, but posted nonetheless.

[Republic Of Varra]

Here is their sea routes:

http://i.imgur.com/SlUytjm.jpg

[Apror]

Well mine continues to become more and more advanced. Size isn't everything........even in bed. Regardless, I plan Naval dominion on my side of the world, and Technologically world wide. Also, it seems like a lot of places that could have Navies over there, and I'm going to make China's client states open for application. That's a lot of possible players. China, you still have whatever power you hade over them as NPCs, but if some one applies, they'll either gain complete independence. Or they have to fight for it.

You wont have much of a technological advantage until ironclads in the late 1800s come along. I have ships that are relatively equal to European ships. The upsides are that Japanese ships are faster while European ships have better hulls for defensive strategies.

I do have the largest navy however not all ships are updated.

When I say Technologically better, sure there your point, but our weapons are better.

[Republic Of Varra]

You wont have much of a technological advantage until ironclads in the late 1800s come along. I have ships that are relatively equal to European ships. The upsides are that Japanese ships are faster while European ships have better hulls for defensive strategies.

I do have the largest navy however not all ships are updated.

When I say Technologically better, sure there your point, but our weapons are better.

I will refute that claim. You do not have guns yet. You have gunpowder but you have yet to invent guns. The East Asians have invented explosives, fireworks, cannons hell even flame throwers by this point. Europe is still behind in gunpowder technologies. Hand held canons weren't used in Europe until the 1390s and they weren't even guns yet.

[Republic Of Varra]

Not to mention it wasn't until the late 1400s that a major power (Ottomans) began actually using firearms regularly in their militaries in the West.

[LsaZ]

Hi!

Can I join?

[Republic Of Varra]

Hi!

Can I join?

All is welcome as long as you can RP.

Write an app, and if it is deemed acceptable, welcome aboard.

[LsaZ]

Hi!

Can I join?

All is welcome as long as you can RP.

Write an app, and if it is deemed acceptable, welcome aboard.

Okay, thanks!