Into the New World [OOC/OPEN/ALT HISTORY][CN SPONSORED]

[Iffria]

Are you on mobile?

Not only a mobile, but one from my School.

Shit, that sucks.

[Apror]

You could just use the copy of my map bc it has all the right boundaries and names for the new colonies.

I'm trying bro.

[RNT]

You could just use the copy of my map bc it has all the right boundaries and names for the new colonies.

I'm trying bro.

If you give me editing rights I could just do it, but thank you for trying.

[Apror]

Not only a mobile, but one from my School.

Shit, that sucks.

Yep.

I'm trying bro.

If you give me editing rights I could just do it, but thank you for trying.

Maybe in the future.

[RNT]

Shit, that sucks.

Yep.

If you give me editing rights I could just do it, but thank you for trying.

Maybe in the future.

Okay.

[Danceria]

Just to clarify, I'm accepted, yes?

[Skogarstrond]

I don't wanna go back and find the posts to quote them so:

Apror: I want Louisiana because Mississippi, but I think you knew that.

Iffria: it would take much longer than 20 years to recover from both smallpox and the black plague

[Apror]

I don't wanna go back and find the posts to quote them so:

Apror: I want Louisiana because Mississippi, but I think you knew that.

Iffria: it would take much longer than 20 years to recover from both smallpox and the black plague

I want Louisiana for Cultural reasons! *curses self for that silly excuse* Regardless I implore you to look for other areas of expansion cause your basically going all over where I am with the Mississippi.

I also ask, how exactly did you acquire the Carribian? With crude boats? Yes, canoes tend to be very crude, or the Hawaiian boats at best, and you conquered most the Carribian with that kind of naval technology? I thought you were talking about acquiring that after Japanese boats, then even with Japanese boats, you were enduring a disease that was crippling your society. How would you have time for conquests? Especially considering the Natives had no real diseases of catastrophic consequences of that nature. You just did, and realistically it would have sent your society into relative chaos for a while, then you begin recovering. But you realistically still wouldn't focus on the Carribian, but maintaining what you had, without the Carribian, that's a lot of land for a Million people. And you already have it, so that's assuming you conquered that when your society wasn't at a million people.

[Apror]

Opps, its actually 800,000 really. Also, I want you to answer those questions if you hadn't already, and get your Military stats up.

[Iffria]

Posted on IC. I hope there's nothing wrong with this one.

*glares at Skogarstrond*

[Apror]

Posted on IC. I hope there's nothing wrong with this one.

*glares at Skogarstrond*

Huh.

[Da Klan]

I still need the military stuff for my app.

[Skogarstrond]

I don't wanna go back and find the posts to quote them so:

Apror: I want Louisiana because Mississippi, but I think you knew that.

Iffria: it would take much longer than 20 years to recover from both smallpox and the black plague

I want Louisiana for Cultural reasons! *curses self for that silly excuse* Regardless I implore you to look for other areas of expansion cause your basically going all over where I am with the Mississippi.

I also ask, how exactly did you acquire the Carribian? With crude boats? Yes, canoes tend to be very crude, or the Hawaiian boats at best, and you conquered most the Carribian with that kind of naval technology? I thought you were talking about acquiring that after Japanese boats, then even with Japanese boats, you were enduring a disease that was crippling your society. How would you have time for conquests? Especially considering the Natives had no real diseases of catastrophic consequences of that nature. You just did, and realistically it would have sent your society into relative chaos for a while, then you begin recovering. But you realistically still wouldn't focus on the Carribian, but maintaining what you had, without the Carribian, that's a lot of land for a Million people. And you already have it, so that's assuming you conquered that when your society wasn't at a million people.

We acquired the land before the Japanese. Crude ships, yes, but all we had to do was land and we got better tech even before the Japanese. Besides, we landed in like late 900s, and fought there for a long time. It's why we don't have all the Caribbean yet

[Apror]

I want Louisiana for Cultural reasons! *curses self for that silly excuse* Regardless I implore you to look for other areas of expansion cause your basically going all over where I am with the Mississippi.

I also ask, how exactly did you acquire the Carribian? With crude boats? Yes, canoes tend to be very crude, or the Hawaiian boats at best, and you conquered most the Carribian with that kind of naval technology? I thought you were talking about acquiring that after Japanese boats, then even with Japanese boats, you were enduring a disease that was crippling your society. How would you have time for conquests? Especially considering the Natives had no real diseases of catastrophic consequences of that nature. You just did, and realistically it would have sent your society into relative chaos for a while, then you begin recovering. But you realistically still wouldn't focus on the Carribian, but maintaining what you had, without the Carribian, that's a lot of land for a Million people. And you already have it, so that's assuming you conquered that when your society wasn't at a million people.

We acquired the land before the Japanese. Crude ships, yes, but all we had to do was land and we got better tech even before the Japanese. Besides, we landed in like late 900s, and fought there for a long time. It's why we don't have all the Caribbean yet

Well once you would have to send a lot of boats, with lots of supplies, and I've never seen a Native boat capable of that. Your grip would have been weakened opening for rebellion, and you'd have to reconqer the area to reassert control, not to mention your a Fuedal government, giving whoever ruled locally there the opportunity for outright self rule. And your better tech would be little consolation since you'd be putting your society back together, and would be a while before you could check back in. A good decent while.

[Skogarstrond]

We acquired the land before the Japanese. Crude ships, yes, but all we had to do was land and we got better tech even before the Japanese. Besides, we landed in like late 900s, and fought there for a long time. It's why we don't have all the Caribbean yet

Well once you would have to send a lot of boats, with lots of supplies, and I've never seen a Native boat capable of that. Your grip would have been weakened opening for rebellion, and you'd have to reconqer the area to reassert control, not to mention your a Fuedal government, giving whoever ruled locally there the opportunity for outright self rule. And your better tech would be little consolation since you'd be putting your society back together, and would be a while before you could check back in. A good decent while.

You're right, we didn't have ships capable of sending supplies, which is why it took hundreds of years to get as far as we did

[Skogarstrond]

Posted on IC. I hope there's nothing wrong with this one.

*glares at Skogarstrond*

Inca was not in Chile. Inca hardly even existed at the time, and if they knew about us, they wouldn't exist, because they were so small that the double plague would've wiped them out, at least enough to make an Incan state impossible. Also, a resounding yes to leave their families to fight in a foreign land in a foreign war that they have no concern of? For years? Do you understand how people work? Also, I have no plans for war with Inca, they would be utterly crushed

[Apror]

Well once you would have to send a lot of boats, with lots of supplies, and I've never seen a Native boat capable of that. Your grip would have been weakened opening for rebellion, and you'd have to reconqer the area to reassert control, not to mention your a Fuedal government, giving whoever ruled locally there the opportunity for outright self rule. And your better tech would be little consolation since you'd be putting your society back together, and would be a while before you could check back in. A good decent while.

You're right, we didn't have ships capable of sending supplies, which is why it took hundreds of years to get as far as we did

It could also lead into the total destruction of all of that due to you loosing your constant administration, which would be extremely necessary, not to say it would have been strong in the first place, not to mention the Japanese not doing a direct repeat with you what the Spainish did with the Aztec is honestly a miracle in itself. You should in reality be a Japanese territory. You getting away this well off is done mostly because we're nice. The Japanese (which would be quite amazing them getting here, but a good amount of stuff is.) would have slaughtered you, and either made you direct Japanese subjects, or slaves. That also reminds me, did the Japanese bring the horse?

[Iffria]

Posted on IC. I hope there's nothing wrong with this one.

*glares at Skogarstrond*

Inca was not in Chile. Inca hardly even existed at the time, and if they knew about us, they wouldn't exist, because they were so small that the double plague would've wiped them out, at least enough to make an Incan state impossible. Also, a resounding yes to leave their families to fight in a foreign land in a foreign war that they have no concern of? For years? Do you understand how people work? Also, I have no plans for war with Inca, they would be utterly crushed

It is an alternate history, just FYI.

[Apror]

Inca was not in Chile. Inca hardly even existed at the time, and if they knew about us, they wouldn't exist, because they were so small that the double plague would've wiped them out, at least enough to make an Incan state impossible. Also, a resounding yes to leave their families to fight in a foreign land in a foreign war that they have no concern of? For years? Do you understand how people work? Also, I have no plans for war with Inca, they would be utterly crushed

It is an alternate history, just FYI.

Yeah, that's more a people thing, and the fact the Japanese have colonies makes that nothing short of Alternate.

[Iffria]

You're right, we didn't have ships capable of sending supplies, which is why it took hundreds of years to get as far as we did

It could also lead into the total destruction of all of that due to you loosing your constant administration, which would be extremely necessary, not to say it would have been strong in the first place, not to mention the Japanese not doing a direct repeat with you what the Spainish did with the Aztec is honestly a miracle in itself. You should in reality be a Japanese territory. You getting away this well off is done mostly because we're nice. The Japanese (which would be quite amazing them getting here, but a good amount of stuff is.) would have slaughtered you, and either made you direct Japanese subjects, or slaves. That also reminds me, did the Japanese bring the horse?

Unlike the Spanish, the Japanese did not start an uprising and did not use the Mayan's rival's to beef up their forces, so no doubt the small numbers they had were not enough to conquer the Mayans. At the point that the Japanese did have enough to finish them off, the Mayans probably had enough people to put up adequate resistance so that the Japanese could not take the Mayans outright. So it was folly on Varra's part that he did not take the opportunities that he had to crush Skogarstrond.

[Apror]

It could also lead into the total destruction of all of that due to you loosing your constant administration, which would be extremely necessary, not to say it would have been strong in the first place, not to mention the Japanese not doing a direct repeat with you what the Spainish did with the Aztec is honestly a miracle in itself. You should in reality be a Japanese territory. You getting away this well off is done mostly because we're nice. The Japanese (which would be quite amazing them getting here, but a good amount of stuff is.) would have slaughtered you, and either made you direct Japanese subjects, or slaves. That also reminds me, did the Japanese bring the horse?

Unlike the Spanish, the Japanese did not start an uprising and did not use the Mayan's rival's to beef up their forces, so no doubt the small numbers they had were not enough to conquer the Mayans. At the point that the Japanese did have enough to finish them off, the Mayans probably had enough people to put up adequate resistance so that the Japanese could not take the Mayans outright. So it was folly on Varra's part that he did not take the opportunities that he had to crush Skogarstrond.

We know that, we're just saying Varra chose not to do such a thing. He could have, but he didn't.

[Republic Of Varra]

Unlike the Spanish, the Japanese did not start an uprising and did not use the Mayan's rival's to beef up their forces, so no doubt the small numbers they had were not enough to conquer the Mayans. At the point that the Japanese did have enough to finish them off, the Mayans probably had enough people to put up adequate resistance so that the Japanese could not take the Mayans outright. So it was folly on Varra's part that he did not take the opportunities that he had to crush Skogarstrond.

We know that, we're just saying Varra chose not to do such a thing. He could have, but he didn't.

There's still not many Japanese in the America's by the time of the war end. The Japanese in the early 1200's had a few hundred thousands while the Maya had millions. Granted the plagues racked the Maya, but it didn't wipe out 90% of their population at the time. Plus, we signed a peace agreement with the Maya.

[Apror]

Just to clarify, I'm accepted, yes?

Yes

[Apror]

We know that, we're just saying Varra chose not to do such a thing. He could have, but he didn't.

There's still not many Japanese in the America's by the time of the war end. The Japanese in the early 1200's had a few hundred thousands while the Maya had millions. Granted the plagues racked the Maya, but it didn't wipe out 90% of their population at the time. Plus, we signed a peace agreement with the Maya.

Well those hundreds of thousands mind you is a lot more than the Spanish had, which was like 300 dudes. I don't recall if hey ever had reinforcements from other Spaniard, but they sure as hell didn't have civilian support right there, not to mention it only took months, not years to accomplish.

[Republic Of Varra]

There's still not many Japanese in the America's by the time of the war end. The Japanese in the early 1200's had a few hundred thousands while the Maya had millions. Granted the plagues racked the Maya, but it didn't wipe out 90% of their population at the time. Plus, we signed a peace agreement with the Maya.

Well those hundreds of thousands mind you is a lot more than the Spanish had, which was like 300 dudes. I don't recall if hey ever had reinforcements from other Spaniard, but they sure as hell didn't have civilian support right there, not to mention it only took months, not years to accomplish.

It's also a "The Japanese never set foot in desert before so this is quite a problem".

Plus the Aztecs were regional pushovers compared to the Maya in this timeline.