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How should we allow new people into the RP?

Just Allow Random People
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Invite specific people
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Keep it exclusive with the occasional exception
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Idk fam, that's your problem
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:18 pm

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Apologies if I have forgotten, but what country are you again?

Egypt


All the way to Australia? As Egypt? With little former sailing experiences?

*Laughs in Japanese*

No. Besides, all the sea routes of the area are within sigh distance of land. You would be able to sail to India no problem. You wouldn't be blown off course 10,000 kilometers. And even if you were, you wouldn't have enough food/water to survive as the amount you would put in to your ship would only be enough for an India trip.
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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:20 pm

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At least wait until sometime in the 1400's. 1420 at the least.

Nein, can into Americue. I must have Le wet dream of French America, and it will mostly be exploring. We'll set up some settlements in Georgia, Virginia, and Louisiana to start it off though.

Varra and I are already focusing on exploring, so you don't really have to. Also, idc about Virginia (Varra might, idk) but you're gonna have to fight for Georgia and Louisiana (especially Louisiana) and you're not getting that precious Caribbean you keep talking about
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:23 pm

In this corner we have France. In this corner we have the Maya.

Round 1
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Postby LsaZ » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:24 pm

Posted in the IC.
I quit NationStates

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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:25 pm

Skogarstrond wrote:
Apror wrote:Nein, can into Americue. I must have Le wet dream of French America, and it will mostly be exploring. We'll set up some settlements in Georgia, Virginia, and Louisiana to start it off though.

Varra and I are already focusing on exploring, so you don't really have to. Also, idc about Virginia (Varra might, idk) but you're gonna have to fight for Georgia and Louisiana (especially Louisiana) and you're not getting that precious Caribbean you keep talking about

*laughs evilly* try to stop mein Reich. Also I can't imagine you having some big Navy, and if we're to send a Navy, God help y'all. Though, as the French, we'd be willing to buy it. As well as the South. Though trying to expand that far sounds like a bad idea.
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Apror wrote:
Skogarstrond wrote:Varra and I are already focusing on exploring, so you don't really have to. Also, idc about Virginia (Varra might, idk) but you're gonna have to fight for Georgia and Louisiana (especially Louisiana) and you're not getting that precious Caribbean you keep talking about

*laughs evilly* try to stop mein Reich. Also I can't imagine you having some big Navy, and if we're to send a Navy, God help y'all. Though, as the French, we'd be willing to buy it. As well as the South. Though trying to expand that far sounds like a bad idea.


I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side here. I'm just here. Next to the Maya.
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Also Apror, can you add me to the Co OP list on the front page?
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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:27 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:In this corner we have France. In this corner we have the Maya.

Round 1

Rubs hands. Honestly, I'd be more worried about the Spanish. The Carribian is depopulated as is, and I don't see how you still have them under your domain. Or South Florida. Though that's not going to be too much of a problem soon enough.
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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:29 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Apror wrote:*laughs evilly* try to stop mein Reich. Also I can't imagine you having some big Navy, and if we're to send a Navy, God help y'all. Though, as the French, we'd be willing to buy it. As well as the South. Though trying to expand that far sounds like a bad idea.


I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side here. I'm just here. Next to the Maya.

You shouldn't have to worry about much I'd imagine.
Republic Of Varra wrote:Also Apror, can you add me to the Co OP list on the front page?

No problem
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Postby RNT » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:38 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Apror wrote:Egypt


All the way to Australia? As Egypt? With little former sailing experiences?

*Laughs in Japanese*

No. Besides, all the sea routes of the area are within sigh distance of land. You would be able to sail to India no problem. You wouldn't be blown off course 10,000 kilometers. And even if you were, you wouldn't have enough food/water to survive as the amount you would put in to your ship would only be enough for an India trip.


I want Australia though, okay ig I'll just have to colonize India.

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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:12 pm

RNT wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
All the way to Australia? As Egypt? With little former sailing experiences?

*Laughs in Japanese*

No. Besides, all the sea routes of the area are within sigh distance of land. You would be able to sail to India no problem. You wouldn't be blown off course 10,000 kilometers. And even if you were, you wouldn't have enough food/water to survive as the amount you would put in to your ship would only be enough for an India trip.


I want Australia though, okay ig I'll just have to colonize India.

But people live there, who are probably much more powerful.
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Postby RNT » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:12 pm

Apror wrote:
RNT wrote:
I want Australia though, okay ig I'll just have to colonize India.

But people live there, who are probably much more powerful.


Even in Siri lanka?

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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:14 pm

Apror wrote:
Skogarstrond wrote:Varra and I are already focusing on exploring, so you don't really have to. Also, idc about Virginia (Varra might, idk) but you're gonna have to fight for Georgia and Louisiana (especially Louisiana) and you're not getting that precious Caribbean you keep talking about

*laughs evilly* try to stop mein Reich. Also I can't imagine you having some big Navy, and if we're to send a Navy, God help y'all. Though, as the French, we'd be willing to buy it. As well as the South. Though trying to expand that far sounds like a bad idea.

*smiles maniacally* it may seem like an easy-ass fight now, but just you wait for the plans I have in store for you. There are two major things that you are still forgetting that will be your downfall. It is up to you to figure out what those two are.

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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:17 pm

RNT wrote:
Apror wrote:But people live there, who are probably much more powerful.


Even in Siri lanka?

Yes, because apparently in their history they've been invaded 8 times, and repelled invaders 8 times. You know who succeeded? The British. Their power, and technology at the time were far more advanced might I add.
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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:18 pm

Skogarstrond wrote:
Apror wrote:*laughs evilly* try to stop mein Reich. Also I can't imagine you having some big Navy, and if we're to send a Navy, God help y'all. Though, as the French, we'd be willing to buy it. As well as the South. Though trying to expand that far sounds like a bad idea.

*smiles maniacally* it may seem like an easy-ass fight now, but just you wait for the plans I have in store for you. There are two major things that you are still forgetting that will be your downfall. It is up to you to figure out what those two are.

Oh, by the way, I hope you like all the other diseases, along with advanced technology. Hand Cannons. Now I will admit you will probably know the terrain better, but enlighten me why the French should fear you.
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Postby RNT » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:21 pm

Apror wrote:
RNT wrote:
Even in Siri lanka?

Yes, because apparently in their history they've been invaded 8 times, and repelled invaders 8 times. You know who succeeded? The British. Their power, and technology at the time were far more advanced might I add.


Okay well ig I'm in the Middle East and Africa then. Can I at least take Madagascar.

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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:22 pm

RNT wrote:
Apror wrote:Yes, because apparently in their history they've been invaded 8 times, and repelled invaders 8 times. You know who succeeded? The British. Their power, and technology at the time were far more advanced might I add.


Okay well ig I'm in the Middle East and Africa then. Can I at least take Madagascar.

Sure, when you get to it.
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:31 pm

Apror wrote:
Skogarstrond wrote:*smiles maniacally* it may seem like an easy-ass fight now, but just you wait for the plans I have in store for you. There are two major things that you are still forgetting that will be your downfall. It is up to you to figure out what those two are.

Oh, by the way, I hope you like all the other diseases, along with advanced technology. Hand Cannons. Now I will admit you will probably know the terrain better, but enlighten me why the French should fear you.


I don't want to get in the middle of this but I'm just going to point out some things.

The Mayas have already been exposed to the diseases, garnered immunity, and have been replenishing their population. They would not die to diseases, or at least, nearly as much.

Second, hand cannons aren't really effective. They never really were. Guns helped a lot with accuracy.

Thirdly, due to them trading with Japan, they have access to gunpowder.
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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:32 pm

Apror wrote:
Skogarstrond wrote:*smiles maniacally* it may seem like an easy-ass fight now, but just you wait for the plans I have in store for you. There are two major things that you are still forgetting that will be your downfall. It is up to you to figure out what those two are.

Oh, by the way, I hope you like all the other diseases, along with advanced technology. Hand Cannons. Now I will admit you will probably know the terrain better, but enlighten me why the French should fear you.

*laughs hysterically* hand cannons? HAND CANNONS? *continues laughing*. Those things are ineffective as all hell! You can fire one shot, that will almost definitely miss, and even if it hits, it probably won't kill like modern guns. We can fire dozens of arrows by the time you can reload your hand cannon. Even when the Spanish conquered the Aztecs, their more modern guns were so useless and laughed at by the Natives that almost all the fighting was done with swords. The reason the Spanish won was because diseases. Now, you may have some diseases, but it won't be anywhere near as effective as smallpox. Besides, guess who has smallpox and the black plague? You if you come over. Not to mention the better familiarity with the terrain and the massive difficulty of transferring a good amount of troops over to the Americas. Besides, while I admit we don't have a large navy, our ships are as updated as the Japanese, not to mention the pirates. Have fun with Yellow Fever too.

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Postby Republic Of Varra » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:35 pm

Skogarstrond wrote:
Apror wrote:Oh, by the way, I hope you like all the other diseases, along with advanced technology. Hand Cannons. Now I will admit you will probably know the terrain better, but enlighten me why the French should fear you.

*laughs hysterically* hand cannons? HAND CANNONS? *continues laughing*. Those things are ineffective as all hell! You can fire one shot, that will almost definitely miss, and even if it hits, it probably won't kill like modern guns. We can fire dozens of arrows by the time you can reload your hand cannon. Even when the Spanish conquered the Aztecs, their more modern guns were so useless and laughed at by the Natives that almost all the fighting was done with swords. The reason the Spanish won was because diseases. Now, you may have some diseases, but it won't be anywhere near as effective as smallpox. Besides, guess who has smallpox and the black plague? You if you come over. Not to mention the better familiarity with the terrain and the massive difficulty of transferring a good amount of troops over to the Americas. Besides, while I admit we don't have a large navy, our ships are as updated as the Japanese, not to mention the pirates. Have fun with Yellow Fever too.


Yellow fever is strictly in central America. It is not present in the Caribbean.
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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Skogarstrond wrote:*laughs hysterically* hand cannons? HAND CANNONS? *continues laughing*. Those things are ineffective as all hell! You can fire one shot, that will almost definitely miss, and even if it hits, it probably won't kill like modern guns. We can fire dozens of arrows by the time you can reload your hand cannon. Even when the Spanish conquered the Aztecs, their more modern guns were so useless and laughed at by the Natives that almost all the fighting was done with swords. The reason the Spanish won was because diseases. Now, you may have some diseases, but it won't be anywhere near as effective as smallpox. Besides, guess who has smallpox and the black plague? You if you come over. Not to mention the better familiarity with the terrain and the massive difficulty of transferring a good amount of troops over to the Americas. Besides, while I admit we don't have a large navy, our ships are as updated as the Japanese, not to mention the pirates. Have fun with Yellow Fever too.


Yellow fever is strictly in central America. It is not present in the Caribbean.

Yeah, I know, I was just having a bit of fun

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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:50 pm

I would like to point out that I would be quite willing to have a good relationship with France if you weren't trying to take my land. Smallpox and the plague would still be a problem for you though, but we could trade. I mean, who doesn't want corn?

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Postby Skogarstrond » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:01 pm

Well, time to start working on a long-ass ic post. Gotta detail the journeys of all five of the exploration groups I sent into North America. I would do the five going into South America but I wanna wait to see if the South America guy changes his app and gets accepted.

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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Apror wrote:Oh, by the way, I hope you like all the other diseases, along with advanced technology. Hand Cannons. Now I will admit you will probably know the terrain better, but enlighten me why the French should fear you.


I don't want to get in the middle of this but I'm just going to point out some things.

The Mayas have already been exposed to the diseases, garnered immunity, and have been replenishing their population. They would not die to diseases, or at least, nearly as much.

Second, hand cannons aren't really effective. They never really were. Guns helped a lot with accuracy.

Thirdly, due to them trading with Japan, they have access to gunpowder.

I know about their access to Gunpowder, but I'm more focused on a naval aspect. Secondly I will still spread some diseases. Though admittedly not a lot. Guns will be a big thing, which we will have. Though I'm not trying to conquer the Maya, I just want the Carribian.
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Postby Apror » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:11 pm

Skogarstrond wrote:I would like to point out that I would be quite willing to have a good relationship with France if you weren't trying to take my land. Smallpox and the plague would still be a problem for you though, but we could trade. I mean, who doesn't want corn?

I know, and I'm not talking about Small Pox, I'm referring to other diseases. We're also dealing with those diseases, and technically you will probably have a few more outbreaks like Europe probably, though nothing completely detrimental. I know what I want, and unfortunately this is the only way to acquire it. (How you acquired to the Carribian and held onto it still shocks me however.)
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