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Sivio
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Sivio » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:08 pm

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DEFCON 5: Total Peace/Normal readiness
DEFCON 4: Increased intel/Strengthened Security/Above Normal
DEFCON 3: Increase in force readiness/Special Forces ready to mobilize
DEFCON 2: War Imminent/Entire Military ready to mobilize
DEFCON 1: Total War/Nuclear War imminent
DEFCON 0: Total Nuclear War

"If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

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Pasong Tirad
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:43 pm

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Ang Kataastaasang Kristiyanong
Mapanghimagsik na Kaharian ng Filipinas


Nationstates Name: Pasong Tirad
Nation Name: The Supreme Christian Revolutionary Kingdom of the Philippines (Ang Kataastaasang Kristiyanong Mapanghimagsik na Kaharian ng Filipinas)
Flag (Optional): (see above)
Governing Ideology: Theocratic Oligarchy

Leader(s): The Supreme Christian Revolutionary Council (Ang Huntang Kataastaasang Kristiyanong Mapanghimagsik), the council of the First Seven, men and women of obscure origin and names (always speaking in public with hoods over their heads) who were the first to descend from the mountains of Montalban and proclaim the faith of the Christ Under the Mountain, Bernardo Carpio the Chained King.

Below the First Seven are the 70 Faithful Revolutionary Governors (Manampalatayang Mapanghimagsik na Gubernador) who oversee day-to-day administration of the different parts of the Philippine Islands. They are the main executive body of the Supreme Christian Revolutionary Kingdom.

On equal status with the governors are the 70 Faithful Revolutionary Councillors (Manampalatayang Mapanghimagsik na Konsehal), who oversee the day-to-day matters of the islands when it comes to the creation of the Supreme Christian Revolutionary Law. They are the main legislative body.

To keep in check the populace, the governors, and the councillors are the 700 Faithful Revolutionary Inquisitors (Manampalatayang Mapanghimagsik na Ingkisidor), who are the judge, jury and executioners of the islands, handing out sentences and executing (most of the time, quite literally) those sentences. They hold absolute authority over the guilt or innocence and can execute anyone without question for what they may deem to be unlawful. They are trained, educated and handpicked by the First Seven. There is no Supreme Court nor appeals. Only the First Seven can overturn their sentence.

Territorial Claims: Philippine Islands
Population: Approx. 6,000,000

Land Forces: For the Army there is a standing army of 147,000 professionals, the Armed Revolutionary Faithful (Ang Armadong Manampalatayang Mapanghimagsik). The Armed Revolutionary Faithful are divided into 21 legions of 7,000 men and women each, who are then divided up further into 10 cohorts of 700 men and women (with the First Cohort being composed of the elites, the veterans), and the 10 cohorts are further divided into 10 companies of 70 and those 10 companies are further divided into 10 squads of 7. Each squad is led by a Sergeant (sarhento), each company is led by a Lieutenant (tenyente), each Cohort by a Captain (Kapitan), with the First Cohort being led by a veteran Colonel (Koronel); and each legion is led by a General (Heneral) with two majors (Komandante) to aid them.

Each legion will also have their seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth cohorts dedicated to support roles: artillery (seventh), armed mostly with handheld artillery pieces, the lantaka, cast-iron swivel guns converted to be portable on the battlefield, as well as an assortment of small, portable mortars (if the technology of the time supports this); sappers (eighth), mostly used for entrenching and besieging operations, as well as several other support roles like establishing camp defenses; and skirmishers (ninth and tenth), armed with the most accurate firearms of the Kingdom and acting also as the legion's reconnaissance force in the absence of cavalry.

While the legions are separated based on where their recruits come from (except the recruits coming from Manila and Montalban are the 7th Legion and those from Central Visayas the 13th;), three legions, the 15th, 19th and 20th, act differently.

The 20th Legion acts as the training legion, where almost all recruits of the Armed Revolutionary Faithful pass through the 20th, for it's required of all recruits to have experienced battle at least once before being transferred to the other legions. While the greens in the 20th Legion may be treated differently due to their status as recruits, their officers, the Tenyente's and Kapitans and higher ranks in the 20th are some of the Armed Revolutionary Faithful's best officers.

The 19th Legion is the specialized Artillery Legion, with each Cohort being separated by the kind of artillery they use, with one Cohort composed of rifled guns (the rarest to be found in the islands), while the rest use antiquated field artillery ranging from mortars to different kinds of horse-drawn cannons.

The 15th Legion is the cavalry Legion, filled to the brim with 7,000 horsemen armed with a motley assortment of spears, lengthened cavalry bolos and pistols ranging from shorter pistol variants of the paltik, percussion cap pistols, to pepper-box guns and old revolvers.

The cohorts of the 15th 19th and 20th legions often act separately from other cohorts, with separate cohorts being deployed wherever they may be needed (while one cohort may be out in war, another may be kept in one region or another); and they lack the elite first cohorts found in the other legions, instead each cohort boasts an elite first company.

Due to the conquest of Brunei, the Armed Revolutionary Faithful gained a new 21st Legion made up of 7,000 conscripted male and female converts from Brunei. As of July 1870, they are still undergoing training and re-education and are still armed and clothes shoddily: their native clothing and flintlock smoothbore muskets of the same (and even inferior) quality as the weapons of the Green 20th.

Four weapons are known as the main weapons of the legions: for the 20th Legion, they are given the old flintlocks of the Spanish (constantly refurbished by the Filipino armories); for the majority of the regular army, the Manila 1865 Minié (converted versions of the French 1851 Minié); for skirmishers, handpicked for their more-accurate performance, they are given the Manila 1865 Hall (converted versions of the American M1819 Hall rifle), rifled breechloaders useful for faster and more accurate firing, a weapon also used by the elite First Cohorts of many legions; for the 7th Legion, the Legion recruited from Manila and Montalban, no doubt the most elite among the elites, all 7,000 men and women are armed with the Montalban 1865 Sharps (converted versions of the American Sharps Rifle), due to its reliability and speed as breechloading rifles that don't use paper cartridges. To add to the mostly antiquated armaments of the Armed Revolutionary Faithful, should their weapons fail them they can resort to their bayonets and to their bolo knives, of which all are known to be extremely proficient in, their ability in melee combat is not a thing to be underestimated. However, the fondness of the Armed Revolutionary Faithful for discarding their weapons and charging headlong into battle has been known to produce high casualty rates for their respective legions.

The Armed Revolutionary Faithful are supported by an auxiliary force of 70,000, the Faithful Corps (Pulutong Manampalataya), composed of "warrior priests," men and women who carry charms (agimat) to pray over the warriors, tend to the faithful wounded and make sure all who fight are faithful. They serve as military chaplains, religious and political (there is no distinction between the two for the Philippines) commissars, and field medical personnel. While they are considered a fighting auxiliary force, their equipment is limited to bolos and small-calibre paltik guns made in the churches (crude, but reliable and not prone to explosions thanks to the addition of percussion caps). Their involvement in actual fighting is usually limited only to self-defense and to help spur units whose morale is faltering.

The Armed Revolutionary Faithful and the Faithful Corps also serve as the policing forces of the island in "peacetime" (the concept of peace is now virtually unknown to them), with the 1st to 18th Legions being used as policing forces for their respective regions and, should the legion of the said region be away in times of war, local militias and the Ingkisidores (Inquisitors) take on the role, sometimes to the detriment of the local populace, for the local militias are prone to corruption and the Inquisitors prone to overexertion of their near-unlimited powers.

It must be noted that almost the whole population is constantly preparing for the "Final War" (Ang Huling Digmaan), thus while only the Revolutionary Faithful are armed to the teeth, the rest of the population are still considered to be "ready to die for their faith," whether or not they will die with a rifle, a bolo, a spear or a rosary in their hands.

Naval Forces: For the men and women in the navy, there is a naval force of 70,000, the Faithful Revolutionary Navy (Manampalatayang Mapanghimagsik na Hukbong Dagat). Of the 70,000, most are seamen and only around 1 in 7 are marines.

70 Aging Ships of the Line, most of them taken from the Iberians when they had to abandon the Philippines. While numerous, these Ships of the Line are too old for the modern wars of 1870 and are constantly being overhauled with whatever modern scrap they might get - so, some ships will have iron plating while others will have patchwork timber of differing strengths all over the hull, some will have more modern rifled cannon while others will have more antiquated 36-pounders, some will use square sails while some will have triangular sails.

Most of the ships of the line are 70-gun ships, with the more modern ones, used by higher ranking commanders, are 140-gun ships. While boasting a large amount of artillery, these are still very antiquated compared to West.

To complement the 70 ships of the line (each carrying approx. 500 men and women) are hundreds of other ships of varying small sizes used for white-water patrols across the seas between islands, the rivers, the coasts and chasing down Moro pirates.

Point of Divergence: 1800
History:

With the split of the Northern and Southern Spaniards and the war in the Iberian Peninsula, the Philippine Islands were left to their own devices by their Iberian colonizers. Thus, the Philippines fell into squabbling, with warlords taking over masses of land, sometimes whole islands, and claiming them as their own small fiefdoms. Hundreds of these small fiefdoms littered the Philippine Islands in what would be known as the Time of Dread (Panahon ng Lagim). For more than a generation, warlords fought and died and lands were taken, occupied and raze again and again in what seemed like an eternal cycle of violence that, to the faithful Filipino, seemed to signify the End Times.

However, it was not so. In the mountains of Montalban, in the fiefdom encompassing Manila up to Montalban, a group of seven men and women came out of the caves to rally the people to the faith: the legendary Bernardo Carpio is Christ Under the Mountain, the Chained King, and it is the duty of all Filipinos to unite and prepare for His coming. Thus, for another generation, the Filipino people once again fought and killed one another. Starting from Montalban, this religious movement grew through the peasantry.

This fledgling "Supreme Christian Revolutionary Kingdom," as they called themselves, took over the Fiefdom of Manila with rapid-lightning speed, rallying the impoverished peasants of Manila to their cause and taking the firearms of the old fiefdom's army as well as the ships of the line docked in the bay. For half a decade, they reorganized, prayed and trained, heavily militarizing Montalban and Manila. After that half a decade, what seemed like the whole population of Montalban and Manila emerged from their borders and, were able to slowly convert and conquer the rest of the island of Luzon, killing all who did not submit to the authority of Christ Under The Mountain and His Supreme Christian Revolutionary Council.

For over 15 years, the Supreme Christian Revolutionary Kingdom fought and killed over the 7,000 islands of the Philippines. The population of approx. 7 million, already whittled down due to the generations of war by the local warlords, was reduced to an even smaller 6 million as Bernardo Carpio's faithful converted, murdered, and raped and razed their way to the southern reaches of Mindanao, where the remaining resistance remains in the form of the Islamic Thassalocratic Moro Sultans, who to this day continue to be the main enemy of the Filipino.

With the whole archipelago under their control, save the Moros of the Southwestern islands, the First Seven proceeded to institute the Carpio Law: the religious constitution of the Filipino, and reforming the islands to fit this divinely-inspired code (which basically meant death for those who did not believe).

Now, with the reconstruction of the islands complete, the Supreme Christian Revolutionary Kingdom now needs to decide: where will it set its eyes to crusade?

Culture: Filipino and Hispanic, highly Christianized, militarized and millennarian society that believes in imminent coming of Christ, in the form of the legendary folk hero, Bernardo Carpio, freeing himself from his mountain prison and ascending into the land of the living. They believe that Bernardo Carpio is the living Christ Under the Mountain, trapped and chained under the mountain by the devil. Whenever the world quakes, it is Bernardo Carpio attempting to free himself and with every quake he is believed to be closer and closer to his goal.

Theme: Think Warhammer 40K Imperium of Man, but more primitive, smaller and a lot more Filipino.

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Insaeldor
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Insaeldor » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:08 am

Nationstates Name:
Nation Name: Deutsches Kaiserreich
Flag (Optional):
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Governing Ideology: Federal Monarchism
Leader(s): Lugwig II of Bavaria
Territorial Claims:
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Population: around 50,000,000
Land Forces: 500,000
Naval Forces: 3,000

Point of Divergence: 1868
History: The German Empire came into bring as the new Constitution of the German Confederation of 1868 established by the various petty Kingdoms of the North German Confederation, this was dated and signed by King Ludwig II of Bavaria consolidated the power he gained after besting the Prussians in the Austro-Prussian war of 1866. The Bavarians saw military success thanks to inivative tactics developed by Captian Gustav von Achternbusch who used mobile light infantry armed with rimfire Henry Rifle which were ordered in small numbers by the Bavarian monarchy at his behest as he noted there military implication as a foreign military observer during the American Civil War.

The new German Empire now under Bavarian leadership went about establishing several important instations. Ludwig II established the Reichsarmee and its two main components the Reichsheer and the Reichsmarine which orders red as the nations Army and Navy respectively. The army was equipped with mostly Prussian equipment and many Prussian military leaders headed the new military under the rule of now Kaiserlicher Kanzler Gustav von Achternbusch. Ludwig II also established a political system which relied on federalist system of monarchism. Prussian, Saxony, and Bavaria held equal power in the Kaisersrat with 10 seats each. The various other kingdoms were given seats by princely status. However the Kaiserlicher Gerichtshof was a desision making body which directly answered to the Kaiser and was made up of one representative from each federal subject and consists of their current ruler.

Ludwig II however was ousted from the thrown on New Year's Eve 1869 as rumors of insanity started to spread, fearing a weakening in the new German state Gustav von Achternbusch ordered the military to quietly remove Ludwig from power, his cousin Ludwig Luitpold swiftly came in and took control of the monarchy as Ludwig II's younger brother Otto was deemed mentally incompetent. Ludwig Luitpold Became Ludwig III of Germany and now seeks to place German in a position of power in Europe.
Culture: German, I mean I can always link to the wiki page for this :P
Theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LafLQkk8o

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Time is a prismatic uniform polyhedron

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The Knockout Gun Gals
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:15 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Nationstates Name: -:CLASSIFIED:-
Nation Name: The Persian Empire (Persia)
Governing Ideology: Oligarchy
Leader(s): The People's Council of Nobles
Territorial Claims: The pink.
Population: 4, 400, 000
Land Forces: 105,345
Naval Forces: 13,780

Point of Divergence: 1722
History:

During the invasion by the Russian and Ottomans of Persian territory, defected soldiers of Tsar's military met with the leaders of the Safavid dynasty under the pretense that they had information regarding Russian plans in the invasion. However, this was all a ruse, as the soldiers staged a coup with the aide of treasonous members of the Persian army, effectively overthrowing the Safavid dynasty and placing the nation under their temporary control. These soldiers highly underestimated the national pride of Persia though, as their rule was met with stiff resistance. While the Russo-Persian government tried to establish their rule, peace had been made with Russia as occupied land was ceded back to the new government under the assumption that the new Persia would become a satellite of Russia. However, this did little to soothe the country.

Loyalists (those in favor of restoring the Safavid dynasty), Reformists (those looking to establish a republic), and the Mushtaraks (those wanting minor reforms to the government) all sprung up. The entire nation became a war-infested hell. With the lack of internal support, the Russo-Persian forces fell fairly quickly. The factions would fight each other for a long time, almost 12 years, in 1734, before a clear victor was to rise from the dust. The Mushtaraks had swayed enough Loyalists and Reformists to switching sides to gain dominance over the other factions and began to handily win battles. After forcing the others into capitulation, the Mushtarak leaders met in the capital, where it was decided that the Empire would no longer be ran by a singular authority figure, rather, a 6-person council would be the head of government, who would appoint ministers to operate the government in practice, with one minister operating as head of state. This council was quickly dubbed "The Council of Nobles", and so ended the Persian Civil War.

However, there was still the issue of the Ottomans, who after a decade and then some was still occupying Persian territory. In an act of surrender due to war-weariness, the Council brokered a peace treaty with the Ottomans to ensure stability for the new government. The Persians would allow the occupied territory to be ceded to the Ottomans, in exchange for a long-standing peace between the two nations.

In the 136 years that have followed, very little has happened to the Persian nation, as the Council continues to be replaced by similar leaders who follow the same policies, however that is expected to change as three of the six councilmen have passed from old age, with new appointees to be decided by Ministers.

Culture: Zoroastrian/Persian
Theme: (Optional)

ID TAG 1997 (DO NOT REMOVE)


Small nitpick, but Zoroastrian is more religious in connections and has little connections as a culture.
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
TriStates wrote:Covenant declare a crusade, and wage jihad against the UNSC and Insurrectionists for 30 years.

So Covenant declare a crusade and then wage jihad? :p

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The Knockout Gun Gals
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:17 am

So after seeing China (British wasn't there any more) and my Japan (Tokugawa won, thus preserving the French relationship and kicked the British out) and Philippines is independent, well...
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
TriStates wrote:Covenant declare a crusade, and wage jihad against the UNSC and Insurrectionists for 30 years.

So Covenant declare a crusade and then wage jihad? :p

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Pimps Inc
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:54 am

Bavarian dominant German Empire. Just doesn't feel the same...
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Insaeldor
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Insaeldor » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:56 am

Pimps Inc wrote:Bavarian dominant German Empire. Just doesn't feel the same...

Don't worry little lad, will be happy to help you out if it's any consolation.
Time is a prismatic uniform polyhedron

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Pasong Tirad
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Founded: May 31, 2007
Democratic Socialists

Postby Pasong Tirad » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:44 am

Application completed. Been brewing with this idea for quite some time and I'm actually very excited to make it come alive.

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The V O I D
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The V O I D » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:00 am

Tayner wrote:
New Grestin wrote:I've also added Tayner as a Co-Op, as he's also looking at doing France.

Thanks.

As my first action as Co-OP, I'd like to revoke VOID's application. His presence alone here has caused many quality RPers to leave, something that Shouldn'tve happened in the first place. VOID has seriously harmed people's interest in this RP, therefore harming the RP itself. I'm going by the "most good for the most people" rule here, and if I have to get rid of VOID to preserve the RP, then that's what's going to happen.

That's all I have to say about that.


That's a load of bull. You can't overrule the OP, and as for Insaeldor's app, I think Gres should deny it considering I'm playing Prussian Germany.

The OP welcomed me here and accepted me. You can't overrule that.

It also seems suspicious that Tayner removes my app and suddenly Insaeldor is trying to claim Germany and steal it from me. Pretty sure this was a premeditated attack on me just because they had prior bad experiences with me that don't pertain at all to this RP. If you think my presence here hurts the RP, Tay, that's your problem. The OP accepted me and decided to let me play Prussian Germany. You can't overrule that just because you dislike me and want to give your friend Insaeldor control over Germany. Besides, the OP's word is bigger than yours anyhow, pretty sure you as Co-OP don't have the authority to revoke my app.
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Tayner
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Ex-Nation

Postby Tayner » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:46 am

The V O I D wrote:
Tayner wrote:Thanks.

As my first action as Co-OP, I'd like to revoke VOID's application. His presence alone here has caused many quality RPers to leave, something that Shouldn'tve happened in the first place. VOID has seriously harmed people's interest in this RP, therefore harming the RP itself. I'm going by the "most good for the most people" rule here, and if I have to get rid of VOID to preserve the RP, then that's what's going to happen.

That's all I have to say about that.


That's a load of bull. You can't overrule the OP, and as for Insaeldor's app, I think Gres should deny it considering I'm playing Prussian Germany.

The OP welcomed me here and accepted me. You can't overrule that.

It also seems suspicious that Tayner removes my app and suddenly Insaeldor is trying to claim Germany and steal it from me. Pretty sure this was a premeditated attack on me just because they had prior bad experiences with me that don't pertain at all to this RP. If you think my presence here hurts the RP, Tay, that's your problem. The OP accepted me and decided to let me play Prussian Germany. You can't overrule that just because you dislike me and want to give your friend Insaeldor control over Germany. Besides, the OP's word is bigger than yours anyhow, pretty sure you as Co-OP don't have the authority to revoke my app.

There is no secret conspiracy against you, and Grestin has had plenty of time to overrule me decision, but he hasn't. Dude, read the room and get out.
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

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-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
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Welfresio
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Ex-Nation

Postby Welfresio » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:54 am

What kind of stuff has VOID done? I'm slightly curious.

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Tayner
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Ex-Nation

Postby Tayner » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:58 am

Welfresio wrote:What kind of stuff has VOID done? I'm slightly curious.

He's done stuff to warrant him being kicked, that's all that matters.
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

-If it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid.
-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
-Remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
Disclaimer: The sig is out of date and I probably won't update it

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Mechanist Combine
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 379
Founded: Sep 22, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Mechanist Combine » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:17 am

Tayner wrote:
Welfresio wrote:What kind of stuff has VOID done? I'm slightly curious.

He's done stuff to warrant him being kicked, that's all that matters.


Like what, I have been in several of VOID's rps, and have seen none of this? Let the OP weigh in, whatever experience you had it was probably because of this attitude you seem to have.
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Tayner
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Ex-Nation

Postby Tayner » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:20 am

Mechanist Combine wrote:
Tayner wrote:He's done stuff to warrant him being kicked, that's all that matters.


Like what, I have been in several of VOID's rps, and have seen none of this? Let the OP weigh in, whatever experience you had it was probably because of this attitude you seem to have.

If you want Grestin's opinion, go ahead and ask him.
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

-If it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid.
-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
-Remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
Disclaimer: The sig is out of date and I probably won't update it

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Ubaria
Minister
 
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Founded: Sep 14, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Ubaria » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:20 am

God the RP hasn't even started yet and shit is already hitting the fan.
Yo, that's mad.

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Sivio
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Sivio » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:32 am

Never had any bad experiences with VOID.
DEFCON 5: Total Peace/Normal readiness
DEFCON 4: Increased intel/Strengthened Security/Above Normal
DEFCON 3: Increase in force readiness/Special Forces ready to mobilize
DEFCON 2: War Imminent/Entire Military ready to mobilize
DEFCON 1: Total War/Nuclear War imminent
DEFCON 0: Total Nuclear War

"If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

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Transoxthraxia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:49 am

Tayner wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
That's a load of bull. You can't overrule the OP, and as for Insaeldor's app, I think Gres should deny it considering I'm playing Prussian Germany.

The OP welcomed me here and accepted me. You can't overrule that.

It also seems suspicious that Tayner removes my app and suddenly Insaeldor is trying to claim Germany and steal it from me. Pretty sure this was a premeditated attack on me just because they had prior bad experiences with me that don't pertain at all to this RP. If you think my presence here hurts the RP, Tay, that's your problem. The OP accepted me and decided to let me play Prussian Germany. You can't overrule that just because you dislike me and want to give your friend Insaeldor control over Germany. Besides, the OP's word is bigger than yours anyhow, pretty sure you as Co-OP don't have the authority to revoke my app.

There is no secret conspiracy against you, and Grestin has had plenty of time to overrule me decision, but he hasn't. Dude, read the room and get out.

lol
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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The New Greek Republic
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Ex-Nation

Postby The New Greek Republic » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:50 am

Sivio wrote:Never had any bad experiences with VOID.


This, but I'm not sure how many RPs we've been in together.

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
Nationstates Name: -:CLASSIFIED:-
Nation Name: The Persian Empire (Persia)
Governing Ideology: Oligarchy
Leader(s): The People's Council of Nobles
Territorial Claims: The pink.
Population: 4, 400, 000
Land Forces: 105,345
Naval Forces: 13,780

Point of Divergence: 1722
History:

During the invasion by the Russian and Ottomans of Persian territory, defected soldiers of Tsar's military met with the leaders of the Safavid dynasty under the pretense that they had information regarding Russian plans in the invasion. However, this was all a ruse, as the soldiers staged a coup with the aide of treasonous members of the Persian army, effectively overthrowing the Safavid dynasty and placing the nation under their temporary control. These soldiers highly underestimated the national pride of Persia though, as their rule was met with stiff resistance. While the Russo-Persian government tried to establish their rule, peace had been made with Russia as occupied land was ceded back to the new government under the assumption that the new Persia would become a satellite of Russia. However, this did little to soothe the country.

Loyalists (those in favor of restoring the Safavid dynasty), Reformists (those looking to establish a republic), and the Mushtaraks (those wanting minor reforms to the government) all sprung up. The entire nation became a war-infested hell. With the lack of internal support, the Russo-Persian forces fell fairly quickly. The factions would fight each other for a long time, almost 12 years, in 1734, before a clear victor was to rise from the dust. The Mushtaraks had swayed enough Loyalists and Reformists to switching sides to gain dominance over the other factions and began to handily win battles. After forcing the others into capitulation, the Mushtarak leaders met in the capital, where it was decided that the Empire would no longer be ran by a singular authority figure, rather, a 6-person council would be the head of government, who would appoint ministers to operate the government in practice, with one minister operating as head of state. This council was quickly dubbed "The Council of Nobles", and so ended the Persian Civil War.

However, there was still the issue of the Ottomans, who after a decade and then some was still occupying Persian territory. In an act of surrender due to war-weariness, the Council brokered a peace treaty with the Ottomans to ensure stability for the new government. The Persians would allow the occupied territory to be ceded to the Ottomans, in exchange for a long-standing peace between the two nations.

In the 136 years that have followed, very little has happened to the Persian nation, as the Council continues to be replaced by similar leaders who follow the same policies, however that is expected to change as three of the six councilmen have passed from old age, with new appointees to be decided by Ministers.

Culture: Zoroastrian/Persian
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Small nitpick, but Zoroastrian is more religious in connections and has little connections as a culture.


Well religion weighs in pretty heavily on culture in most societies.
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:51 am

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lol

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Postby New Antonalia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:55 am

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Nationstates Name: New Antonalia
Nation Name: Her Majesty's Royal Tanganyika Colony
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Governing Ideology: Autocracy
Leader(s): Basil Rhodes, Archibald Flint, Julius Lumbuwa, Field Marshal Lord Kitchener
Territorial Claims: Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda
Population: 750,000
Land Forces: 15,000 Queen's Colonial Army, 1500 Royal African Police
Naval Forces: 2 Pre-Dreadnaught Cruisers, 4 Destroyers, 15 Patrol Boats armed with Vickers .303 Water Cooled Machine Guns

Point of Divergence: 1872
History: Instead of the German grabbing Tanganyika with the Treaty of Paris, Great Britain takes this territory as well as Kenya. Then under the licence of the Royal Tanganyika Trade Company, under Basil Rhodes and Archibald Flint, the cities of Mombasa and Dar Es Salaam are taken and changed to Victoriasberg and New Lancashire. After 5 years, immigrants and colonists from other countries as well as Britain arrive in the towns of Victoriasberg and New Lancashire, before heading deeper into the hinterlands, establishing towns and villages where farming and mining play an important part in the growth of the colony, and while some small conflicts erupt with native tribes, treaties and bargains are struck to prevent anymore bloodshed. Boundaries are drawn, separating the tribal lands from those of the European settlers. Eventually, as the cities become more and more populated, larger and larger conflicts erupt, forcing the crown to deploy General Kitchener and his army to the colony to put down the tribal rebellions. After two months of Campaigning, the tribes of the Maasai, Luhyu, Kikuyu, and several other tribes were subjugated before Kitchener, on the behest of Rhodes and Flint, marched into Rwanda and Uganda, taking them from the Belgians and French. By 1888, Lord Kitchener was commanded to stay in the colony to train local Militias into a cohesive army, and two years later, "Kitchener's Mob" is deployed to the Sudan to put down the Mahdist Rebellion, along side Generals Woseley and Gordan. After that, Kitchener's Mob was deployed to South Africa to aid the British Army in the 2nd Boer War.
Culture: Mostly British, with some German, French, and Belgian, as well as local tribal cultures (Maasai, Luhyu, Hutu, Tutsi, etc)
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Postby Sivio » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:59 am

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Postby Imperial Idaho » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:00 am

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You are aware the RP starts in 1870 right?
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:58 am

So, there's a couple big geopolitical and economic problems Bavaria has to get over if it wants to be the unifier of Germany. The first is agriculture. Bavaria is, quite famously, hilly and mountainous, and so has never been able to support huge populations. Austria, though also largely rugged, had the super-fertile Danubian plain to support its armies. Prussia had a similar problem for much of its history, as much of its land consisted of very poor, cold, dry, sandy soil. It later turned out that this extremely well-drained and cold soil was perfect for growing potatoes, (which can get by fine on poor soils but which have problems with fungal rots if the soil gets too wet and too hot for too long.) and so you had the 18th and 19th century Prussian potato population explosion, which allowed it to become the militarized kingdom we all know and love.

Then there's the problem of expansion. Prussia and Austria both got a lot of their power by expanding eastward, before trying their hand at uniting the 10,000,000 densely populated, extremely paranoid German principalities. Without Silesia, East Prussia, and its sundry Polish provinces, Prussia would have had a very hard time amassing sufficient power to be able to challenge Austria. Similarly, without Bohemia-Moravia, Hungary, Galicia, etc., Austria would have had a very hard time amassing sufficient power to be the sort of nation you need to challenge in the first place. Bavaria doesn't really have that much room for expansion. I mean, look around them, to the West is France, which was the preeminent European land power. To the South is Switzerland and Italy, and we saw how well that turned out for the Medieval Holy Roman Emperors. To the East is Austria, and if Bavaria takes them on early enough to count as 'expansion' rather than 'unification' then we're gonna be talking about a very, very weird (though interesting) European history. And to the North are the aforementioned 10,000,000 densely populated, extremely paranoid German principalities; for the results of trying to conquer them, just look at the 30 years war.
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Postby New Grestin » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:19 am

I'll just be as simple and clinical about this as possible.

I promoted Tayner to Co-Op because I, personally, did not feel comfortable asking VOID to leave after accepting his app. Take that as you will. I'm not exactly one for confrontation.

The reason I had wanted VOID to leave was because, almost immediately upon his joining, I received a significant and negative response from several players and through my own social circles and RP backchannels. The main point of contention was his being perceived as a difficult to work with individual with a pension for powerplaying.

His being in the RP caused at least two people to leave, including the person originally playing France. To compound the issue, people who I tried to pitch the RP to refused to join because of it, both within and without my personal social circle. The perception was that he would be amiable initially before making some grand, overpowered ploy for European dominance.

I don't know how much of that I believe. However, the fact that his mere being in the RP was driving people away and discouraging potential new players was rapidly threatening to tank the entire venture.

To put it simply, the backlash I received forced my hand to keep the RP going, however long that might be.

Insy taking Germany was not part of this, rather just a poorly timed coincidence.

The RP will continue forwards and the IC will be posted some time this evening. My apologies for the inconveniece.
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Postby Insaeldor » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:06 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:So, there's a couple big geopolitical and economic problems Bavaria has to get over if it wants to be the unifier of Germany. The first is agriculture. Bavaria is, quite famously, hilly and mountainous, and so has never been able to support huge populations. Austria, though also largely rugged, had the super-fertile Danubian plain to support its armies. Prussia had a similar problem for much of its history, as much of its land consisted of very poor, cold, dry, sandy soil. It later turned out that this extremely well-drained and cold soil was perfect for growing potatoes, (which can get by fine on poor soils but which have problems with fungal rots if the soil gets too wet and too hot for too long.) and so you had the 18th and 19th century Prussian potato population explosion, which allowed it to become the militarized kingdom we all know and love.

Then there's the problem of expansion. Prussia and Austria both got a lot of their power by expanding eastward, before trying their hand at uniting the 10,000,000 densely populated, extremely paranoid German principalities. Without Silesia, East Prussia, and its sundry Polish provinces, Prussia would have had a very hard time amassing sufficient power to be able to challenge Austria. Similarly, without Bohemia-Moravia, Hungary, Galicia, etc., Austria would have had a very hard time amassing sufficient power to be the sort of nation you need to challenge in the first place. Bavaria doesn't really have that much room for expansion. I mean, look around them, to the West is France, which was the preeminent European land power. To the South is Switzerland and Italy, and we saw how well that turned out for the Medieval Holy Roman Emperors. To the East is Austria, and if Bavaria takes them on early enough to count as 'expansion' rather than 'unification' then we're gonna be talking about a very, very weird (though interesting) European history. And to the North are the aforementioned 10,000,000 densely populated, extremely paranoid German principalities; for the results of trying to conquer them, just look at the 30 years war.


I addressed this in my alt-history, we were able to best the Prussians in the Austrian-Prussian war and Ludwig II was able to consolidate his political gains in the creation of a Buford German state under the Bavarian monarchy.

Bavaria didn't best the prussians in a military campaign that incorporate total war, we used cheeky military tactics to out maneuver the Prussian on the battlefield.
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