Revolution's Wake [1920s Historical RP] [OOC]

[Republic of the Cristo]

Yes and that application is also wrong as the USSR would not exist until December 1923. Also the claim says "clams all of the former Russian Empire, legitimately only controls Western Russia", not they specifically control Ukraine, Belarus and all of that.

Ukraine and Belarus along with that. This is a historical app

[Austria and Bavaria]

Country: The Kingdom of Romania/Regatul României, shortly known as Romania/România
Head of State: His Majesty, Ferdinand I of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, King of the Romanians/Maiestatea Sa, Ferdinand I de Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, Regele Românilor
Head of Government: Alexandru Averescu( from the People's Party)
Foreign Minister: Take Ionescu (from the Conservative-Democratic Party)
Flag: National Flag, Royal Flag
Great Seal/Coat of Arms: Great Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Romania, Middle Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Romania, Lesser Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Romania
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Ruling Political Party: Kinda difficult to say, since Romania is currently experiencing a political instability. The traditional two party system of the National Liberal Party( Partidul Național Liberal) and of the Conservative Party(Partidul Conservator) has been broken, and other parties, like the populist People's Party(Partidul Poporului), the Conservative-Democratic Party(Partidul Conservator-Democrat) and the National Peasants' Party(Partidul Național Țărănesc) are all fighting for power, and it is unknown who will win. The current leading coalition is made up from the People's Party and the Conservative-Democratic Party.
Territory/Borders: Greater Romania
Language: Romanian
Notable Religions:The largest is Romanian Orthodoxy, followed by much smaller religions like Romanian Greek-Catholicism, Protestantism, Catholicism.
Notable Ethnic Groups: The largest ethnic group, is that of the Romanians, with small minorities like the Hungarians, the Székelys, some Ukrainians and Bulgarians present in certain areas.
Population:~18,000,000
Allies: If we go by the real life history, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Czechoslovakia, Poland, and the Western Allies.
Rivals: If we follow real life history, then Hungary, Bulgaria, the USSR
Goals: Maintaining the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Romania, stop the revanchist powers from gaining anything, halting the spread of communism, creating good alliance systems to ensure Romania's security, fully modernize the military, resolve the problem of the ethnic minorities in Romania.
Economic Strength: 4-5? Not sure on how the scale works, but Romania is one of the richest states in the region, and even if it is still recovering from the damage of the war, the recovery is in a full swing.
Stability: 7
National anthem: Official: Trăiască Regele
Popular: Deșteaptă-te, române!I
History:

Following its unification into the United Principalities in 1859, and after gaining its independence in 1877, Romania quickly thread along the path of modernization, becoming a regional power in the Balkans, following its ideal of national unity, as many Romanians lived oppressed in the neighboring countries. Under Carol I of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, a Prussian Prince and later King, Romania not only gained its independence, but it became a truly modern state, recovering the region of Dobrogea after its independence war, but also losing southern Basarabia. Feeling threatened by the Russian expansionism, Romania then joined the Triple Alliancein 1883, but due to the animosity between Romania and Austria-Hungary, the alliance remained secret. Developing, Romania was aspiring to become a regional power, and as such, it took part in the 1913 Second Balkan War, against Bulgaria. In the following Treaty of Bucharest, Romania received Southern Dobrogea. But a lot of the progress made by King Carol was stopped, or slowed down by the opposition of various Romanian politicians and political parties. As such, in 1914, when the First World War began, Romania was unprepared to enter such a catastrophic conflict. Despite King Carol's wish for Romania to enter in the war on the side of the Central Powers, the pro-Entente Romanian population and politicians refused, and in the Crown Council in August 1914, Romania decided to remain neutral. King Carol soon died, and he was followed on the throne by his nephew, King Ferdinand I of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen.
Between 1914 and 1916, Romania remained in turmoil, as the various pro-Entente and pro-Central Powers factions tried to force Romania's entry into the war. Unfortunately, the politicians mostly focused on diplomacy, forgetting the military, which could have greatly benefited from two neutral years in the middle of a world war. Nevertheless, the question was obvious, choosing between two Romanian regions occupied by foreign powers. Joining the Central Powers would have earned Romania the Russian occupied Basarabia, but joining the Entente would have earned Romania the Austro-Hungarian occupied Transylvania. After years of debate, in August 1916, the Treaty of Bucharest was signed. Romania joined the Entente, in exchange for the Entente nations recognizing the Romanian claims in Transylvania. On the 27th of August, Romania declared war on Austria-Hungary, entering the First World War. However, the Romanian Royal Army was still unprepared, and most of its organization had been made with a conflict against Russia in mind. Although initially successful, the Romanian offensive in Transylvania stalled, and with the Entente not managing to meet its promises, of various offensives and supplies that would have helped Romania, the Romanians had to face a combined offensive from all Central Powers. Lacking help from the Entente, and most importantly from Russia, Romania lost the following battles, being pushed back into Moldova, and losing Bucharest until the end of 1916. In 1917, after finally receiving armament and supplies from the Entente, the Romanian Army managed to stop all the offensives initiated by the Central Powers, even managing to push back the front, but the collapse of Russia in the February Revolution, left Romania alone on the Eastern Front. Traitorous politicians in occupied Bucharest signed a peace treaty with the Central Powers, one that was never signed or recognized by the King. Romania ceded various territories, including southern Dobrogea, but Barasarbia decided, through a vote of its National Council, to unite with Romania in 1918. In the wake of the collapse of the Central Powers, Romania rejoined the war, retaking control over its territories, and pushing into Transylvania. In 1919, with the Hungarian Soviet Republic attacking Transylvania, Romania was forced to fight the Hungarian-Romanian War of 1919, ending with the Romanian occupation of Budapest. In the following years, the Treaty of Versailles (1919), the Treaty of Saint-Germain (1919), the Treaty of Neuilly (1919) and the Treaty of Trianon (1920) officially cemented the creation of Greater Romania.
In the following years, Romania mainly focused on rebuilding and cementing its rule in the newly liberated territories. The creation of the Little Entente with Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia in 1920 and 1921 respectively, is aimed to contain Hungary and its revisionism, and Romania is actively attempting to create a similar alliance against Bulgaria, while also maintaining its connections with the Western Allies. Although many challenges lie ahead, now, that the dream of all Romanians has been accomplished, it is the duty of Romania to maintain it alive, by any costs necessary.

Army Size and Description: The Romanian Royal Army (Armata Regală Română), is the land force of the Kingdom of Romania, formed from around 180,000 active personnel, mainly deployed on the border with the USSR, and with units stationed in Transylvania and Dobrogea. Many others can be conscripted in case of war, and Romania now enjoys a core of experienced soldiers, veterans of the Great War. Relatively well equipped and trained, the Romanian Royal Army is a force to be reckoned with in the region, even if it still slightly lags behind the Occident in terms of technology and organization. Active reforms are however being prepared to fully modernize the army and to turn it into a small but professional armed force.
Navy Size and Description: The Romanian Royal Navy (Marina Regală Română) is the naval force of the Kingdom of Romania, and it is divided between the Black Sea Fleet ( Flotila Mării Negre), and the Danube Fleet (Flotila Dunării). The Black Sea Fleet is a relatively decent fleet, sort of, with two destroyers, five gunboats, four more older gunboats, ten torpedo boats( with some of them still en-route to Romania), and four auxiliary cruisers. The Danube Fleet is more modern and better prepared, with seven river monitors, eight torpedo boats, six gunboats, four patrol boats, and various minelayers and auxiliary ships. It should be noted that due to that, Romania currently has the most powerful riverine fleet in the world. Just like with the Royal Army however, the Romanian Royal Navy is expected to enter a massive program of modernization soon, with new ships about to be ordered from foreign countries.
Air Force Size and Description The Romanian Royal Air Force (Forţele Aeriene Regale Române), also known as the Romanian Royal Aeronautics (Aeronautica Regală Română), is the air force of the Kingdom of Romania, presently formed from around 300 aircraft, mainly bought from France and Britain during the First World War. The Romanians currently have a good number of experienced pilots, and a national aircraft industry is in the process of being properly created and developed, with the modernization and evolution of the air force being in a full swing.
Main Military Commanders:Alexandru Averescu, Constantin Prezan Ernest Broșteanu, Constantin Coandă, Horia Macellariu, Ermil Gheorghiu.

Finished

Accepted.

[South Vict]

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Revolution's Wake
1920s Historical RP

"I tell you naught for your comfort,
Yea, naught for your desire,
Save that the sky grows darker yet
And the sea rises higher."

- G.K. Chesterton, the Ballad of the White Horse

The Old Order is dead, slain by the treaties of Versailles, Saint Germain, and Trianon. Disorder and ruin have flooded into the post-war chaos in Europe. Anarchists, Socialists, and members of the newborn Fascist movement have broken out into revolt across Europe. The old Empires of Germany, Russia, and Austria-Hungary have fallen, and no man can yet tell what shall take their place. The Bolsheviks have all but triumphed in Russia, while Austria-Hungary has been splintered into a half dozen ethnic states. The former German Empire, now the Weimar Republic, has been bitterly split between Monarchists, Socialists, and Republicans, having already faced mutiple uprisings and coups. However, out of this turmoil, great empires may be born. The mob is a fickle thing, and many a man in Europe, downtrodden and despairing, is eager for a champion, whoever he may prove to be.

Welcome to Revolution's Wake, a roleplay set in the turbulent year of 1921. (Specifically, October 1st, 1921) The world, still reeling from the Great War and the Influenza Pandemic of 1918, now faces even more toil and trial. Lenin's Bolsheviks are all but triumphant, having been stopped from invaded Europe only at the very gates of Warsaw, at the "Miracle of the Vistula" in late 1920, which ended the Polish-Soviet War. Ireland has at last won it's freedom, only to be plunged into a brutal civil war. Strikes, massacres, protests, assassinations, and bombings are all too frequent in this post-Versailles world. It is up to you to lead your nation into a new age of prosperity, or, should you fail, plunge it into the bitter darkness of failure.

Map

Rules

1. The word of the OP (Me) and Co-OP (None atm) is law.

2. No Powergaming, Metagaming, etc.

3. Be polite, rudeness is not appreciated. Be considerate and kind towards your fellow players

4. Be reasonable and retain historical accuracy and realism.

5. Please, post regularly. Inactivity is what kills RPs.

6. Don't be too fast. Rome wasn't built in a day, and major changes do not happen overnight.

7. Please, use proper grammar and spelling. Typos and other errors are tolerable from time to time, but consistent poor spelling/ grammar is not acceptable.

Nations

The British Empire - Fesconia
Soviet Union - Republic of the Cristo
Italy - Cabana
Poland - Austria and Bavaria
Rumania - Reserved for Tracian Empire
Japan - Reserved for The Frozen Forest
Finland - Reserved for Colchis-Iberia
Czechoslovakia - Reserved for Western Pacific Territories
United Mexican States - Pimps Inc

Rebels/Governments in Exile

House of Habsburg - Apostolic Hungary
Arab Kingdom of Syria - Zhaas123

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[b]Country:republic of Mongolia [/b]
[b]Head of State:dunzhig ulaantaar [/b]
[b]Head of Government:WIP[/b]
[b]Foreign Minister:WIP[/b]
[b]Flag:WIP[/b]
[b]Great Seal/Coat of Arms:WIP[/b]
[b]Government Type:democratic republic [/b]
[b]Ruling Political Party:WIP [/b]
[b]Territory/Borders:mongolia[/b]
[b]Language:Mongolian,chinese[/b]
[b]Notable Religions:buddhism[/b]
[b]Notable Ethnic Groups:mongolian,chinese([/b]
[b]Population:1,200,000[/b]
[b]Allies:russia,japan[/b]
[b]Rivals:china[/b]
[b]Goals:to unify the mongol nation.[/b]
[b]Economic Strength:8[/b] (On scale of 1-10)
[b]Stability:4[/b] (On scale of 1-10)
[b]National anthem:[/b]
[b]History:mongolia has been conquered by china for centuries until they granted independence.however,they want to unify the mongol nation is by taking inner mongolia by the chinese. mongolia is a democratic country and have very good relations with russia and japan.[/b] (Last Ten Years)

[b]Army Size and Description:the republic of mongolia has 190,000 armies total and reserves 700,000 army.[/b]
[b]Navy Size and Description:mongolia have no navy.[/b]
[b]Air Force Size and Description mongolia has 160,000 air force total and reserves 40,000 army. [/b]
[b]Main Military Commanders:WIP[/b]

Rebel App/Government in Exile App:

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[b]Name:[/b]
[b]Leader:[/b]
[b]Main Ideology:[/b]
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[b]Anthem:[/b] (If any)
[b]Motives:[/b]
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[b]Territory Occupied:[/b] (If any)
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[Austria and Bavaria]

Name: Zhili Clique
Leader: Cao Kun
Main Ideology: As a warlord state, the Zhili clique doesn't espouse a single, clearly defined ideology. It uses neo-Confucianism as part of its domestic and cultural policies. Economically, it favors Anglo-American commercial and business interests in China. It is vehemently anti-union, and has been known to brutally suppress strikes. Foreign policy wise, the Zhili clique is anti-Japanese, believing Japan to be a menace. This has caused considerable problems with the Japan-aligned Fengtian clique, who are in a loose coalition with the Zhili. The clique distrusts the communists, and has oriented its foreign policy towards America and Britain.
Flag/Logo/Symbol: Beiyang government flag. The Zhili clique, while independent in all but name, is officially a part of the Beiyang government.
Anthem: None
Motives: It's current motives are to establish control over the Beiyang presidency, and if possible invade and conquer the Fengtian clique.
Goals:

Short-term

• Establish dominant control over the Beiyang clique
• Expand and reform the military
• Dissolve the Zhili-Fengtian coalition and conquer the Fengtian clique
  
  Long-term
• Conquer the Guangzhou-based Kuomintang
• Unify China against the Japanese menace
• Secure Anglo-American assistance/alliances

Supporters: Military officers, foreigners (particularly Americans and British) with vested economic interests
History: The Zhili clique was formed following the fragmentation of the Beiyang government as a consequence of Yuan Shikai's death in 1916. United against Duan Qirai and the Anhui clique which had come to dominate the Beiyang government, the Zhili clique was initially lead by Feng Guozhang. The formation of a Guangzhou-based government under Sun Yat-sen culminated in the Constitutional Protection war. The Zhili clique quickly took advantage of the situation, seizing Hunan and other southern areas. A peace signed in Shanghai with Guangzhou in 1918, combined with a split between Qirai and the Zhili clique, lead to the creation of the National Salvation Allied Army. This was a coalition of various anti-Anhui warlords.

The death of Feng Guozhang in 1919 lead to Cao Kun succeeding him. The Zhili-Anhui war, launched in 1920, would shatter the Beiyang army, as victorious Zhili forces seized the capital, Beijing. Duan Qirai, humiliated, resigned his post, with the Anhui remnants retreating southwards. An alliance with the Fengtian clique, made purely out of convenience, evolved into a loose coalition, with Beijing under joint Zhili-Fengtian control.

Despite Zhili's victory over Anhui, China is at the peak of the warlords era. The future of the country is cast into doubt, as powerful warlords squabble and fight over land, as the Beiyang and Guangzhou governments struggle to exercise central control. The Zhili-Fengtian coalition cannot hold for long. To the south, the Anhui remnants and the Guangzhou-based government eye the Zhili lands hungrily. The clique must engage in a delicate diplomatic balancing act between the major Chinese blocs in order to survive.
Territory Occupied: Zhili clique territory
Group Type: Warlord
Military Equipment: Major rifles in the Zhili armies consist of the Hanyang 88 and the Murata Type 13. The standard service pistol is the Mauser C96.
Military Size: 50,000-100,000 men, organized into the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th (Henan-Shaanxi) armies.

Accepted.

[Austria and Bavaria]

@South Viet don't quote the OP

[Austria and Bavaria]

Name: Communist Party of Romania/Partidul Comunist Român/PCR
Leader: Radu Stefanescu
Main Ideology: Communist
Flag/Logo/Symbol: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_PCR.svg/2000px-Flag_of_PCR.svg.png
Anthem:
Zdrobite catuse! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxzPTVkkEhc
Te slavim, Romanie! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC43Lsi9Y70
Trei Culori! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0gXvDl6zpY
Motives: Supression by the King
Goals: Make Romania a socialist state
Supporters: USSR and other socialist states
History:
After a failed revolution, members of the PCR were either exiled or executed. A handful of them now plan to take Romania, by force or revolution, if needed.
Territory Occupied: none, currently
Group Type: Government in Exile
Military Equipment: Whatever the closest Socialist State wishes to supply (In this case the USSR)
Military Size: 25,000 romanian military personnel (exiled in the USSR) (USSR might provide more personnel though)
(Note: Those military personnel were not exiled romanian military personnel, but the entire exiled force, including socialists, that were then put into military service by PCR)

Accepted.

[Austria and Bavaria]

IC is up: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=405474

[Cabana]

Yes and that application is also wrong as the USSR would not exist until December 1923. Also the claim says "clams all of the former Russian Empire, legitimately only controls Western Russia", not they specifically control Ukraine, Belarus and all of that.

Ukraine and Belarus along with that. This is a historical app

Well by that do you mean Ukraine and Belarus along with that, cause Russia didn't control them, they were still independent states until 1923.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Country: Czechoslovakia (English), Československo (Czech), Česko‑Slovensko (Slovak).
Head of State: Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk
Head of Government: Edvard Beneš
Foreign Minister: Edvard Beneš
Flag:
Great Seal/Coat of Arms:
Government Type: Parliamentary Democracy
Ruling Political Party:
President (TGM) - Independent
Prime Minister (Edvard Beneš) - ČSNS
Territory/Borders: See map.
Language: Czech/Slovak.
Notable Religions: Christianity, Catholic/Protestant.
Notable Ethnic Groups: Czechs, Slovaks, Germans in some cases,
Population: 13,948,208
Allies: Romania, Jugoslavija. (See: Little Entente)
Rivals: Poland (Border disputes)
Goals: Maintain political neutrality, keep democratic government structure, expand economy, resolve border disputes with Poles.
Economic Strength: 7.
Stability: 5-6.
National anthem: "Kde domov můj"
History: (Last Ten Years)

Army Size and Description: The army numbers 150,000 men, consisting of 12 infantry divisons, 2 mountian brigades and 3 cavalry brigades. Additionally, they are also in posesstion of one Renault FT-17 tank. They are mostly well equipped, moderately trained and have average morale. There is currently a increase in military figures ongoing due to social pressures to join the army.
Navy Size and Description: Tl;DR: We wish we had a navy
Air Force Size and Description The Czechoslovak military is currently in possession of about six aircraft, all of these being rather small fighters which are more than likely obsolete.
Main Military Commanders: Stanislav Čeček, Radola Gajda, Karel Klapálek, Josef Šnejdárek, Ludvík Svoboda.

Finished. It should be noted that most of these generals in real life were either studying in France or not generals in 1921 but due to information being very scarce I've decided to alter the timeline a bit.

[Cabana]

New and Improved™ map this time with Chinese Warlords and some touched up borders.

[Austria and Bavaria]

Country: Czechoslovakia (English), Československo (Czech), Česko‑Slovensko (Slovak).
Head of State: Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk
Head of Government: Edvard Beneš
Foreign Minister: Edvard Beneš
Flag:
Great Seal/Coat of Arms:
Government Type: Parliamentary Democracy
Ruling Political Party:
President (TGM) - Independent
Prime Minister (Edvard Beneš) - ČSNS
Territory/Borders: See map.
Language: Czech/Slovak.
Notable Religions: Christianity, Catholic/Protestant.
Notable Ethnic Groups: Czechs, Slovaks, Germans in some cases,
Population: 13,948,208
Allies: Romania, Jugoslavija. (See: Little Entente)
Rivals: Poland (Border disputes)
Goals: Maintain political neutrality, keep democratic government structure, expand economy, resolve border disputes with Poles.
Economic Strength: 7.
Stability: 5-6.
National anthem: "Kde domov můj"
History: (Last Ten Years)

Army Size and Description: The army numbers 150,000 men, consisting of 12 infantry divisons, 2 mountian brigades and 3 cavalry brigades. Additionally, they are also in posesstion of one Renault FT-17 tank. They are mostly well equipped, moderately trained and have average morale. There is currently a increase in military figures ongoing due to social pressures to join the army.
Navy Size and Description: Tl;DR: We wish we had a navy
Air Force Size and Description The Czechoslovak military is currently in possession of about six aircraft, all of these being rather small fighters which are more than likely obsolete.
Main Military Commanders: Stanislav Čeček, Radola Gajda, Karel Klapálek, Josef Šnejdárek, Ludvík Svoboda.

Finished. It should be noted that most of these generals in real life were either studying in France or not generals in 1921 but due to information being very scarce I've decided to alter the timeline a bit.

Um... no history?

[Austria and Bavaria]

Also, @Fesconia, if the number on my suggested purchase seems off, I'll change it. I couldn't find a number for ship sales, so I kinda winged it with what I thought reasonable.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Ukraine and Belarus along with that. This is a historical app

Well by that do you mean Ukraine and Belarus along with that, cause Russia didn't control them, they were still independent states until 1923.

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine nevEr independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

[Republic of the Cristo]

just did a bit of research apparently the Soviets might've had about six hundred and fifty thousand soldiers at the time I was off by about 90000 and my initial estimates.

[Tracian Empire]

In 1920, the military hardly existed at all

Aha I knew Beneš was bluffing during the March on Budapest.

Czechoslovakia had around 20,000 men fighting Hungary in 1919 though.

[Republic of the Cristo]

sorry about this but as I keep doing more and more research I keep funding of the Soviets had more troops than my initial estimations were. I Wikipedia the Polish and a liberal estimate says the Soviets might have had as many as eight hundred thousand soldiers on the Western Front. I would have to talk up total Soviet numbers now too conservative 900,000.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Well by that do you mean Ukraine and Belarus along with that, cause Russia didn't control them, they were still independent states until 1923.

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine nevEr independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini ... s_Republic

[Republic of the Cristo]

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine nevEr independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini ... s_Republic

Read the whole article. The Ukrainian government was taken over by a soviet, and participated actively in the Soviet invasion of Poland. They are firmly under Soviet control and a straw through within a year they would be officially annexed. Western Russia is firmly under Soviet control, just as it was historically.

[Tracian Empire]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini ... s_Republic

Read the whole article. The Ukrainian government was taken over by a soviet, and participated actively in the Soviet invasion of Poland. They are firmly under Soviet control and a straw through within a year they would be officially annexed. Western Russia is firmly under Soviet control, just as it was historically.

There are still various insurrections in that area, and calling it firmly under Soviet control would be a little too much.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini ... s_Republic

Read the whole article. The Ukrainian government was taken over by a soviet, and participated actively in the Soviet invasion of Poland. They are firmly under Soviet control and a straw through within a year they would be officially annexed. Western Russia is firmly under Soviet control, just as it was historically.

Certainly, but the claim that Ukraine was never independent is flatout false.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Read the whole article. The Ukrainian government was taken over by a soviet, and participated actively in the Soviet invasion of Poland. They are firmly under Soviet control and a straw through within a year they would be officially annexed. Western Russia is firmly under Soviet control, just as it was historically.

Certainly, but the claim that Ukraine was never independent is flatout false.

I'm not claiming was independent, I'm saying it wasn't sovereign.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Certainly, but the claim that Ukraine was never independent is flatout false.

I'm not claiming was independent, I'm saying it wasn't sovereign.

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine never independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

But it was sovereign too, for those two years. Independent and sovereign are interchangeable.

[Tracian Empire]

I'm not claiming was independent, I'm saying it wasn't sovereign.

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine never independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

But it was sovereign too, for those two years. Independent and sovereign are interchangeable.

It was also recognized de jure and de facto by several states as an independent, and sovereign nation.

Bolshevik Russia certainly did until in late 1918.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Country: Ottoman Empire, ‘Osmanlı İmparatorluğu or Osmanlı Devleti’
Head of State: Sultan Mehmed VI
Head of Government: Ahmet Tevfik Pasha/Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
Foreign Minister: Ahmed Izzet Pasha
Flag:
Imperial Standard:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... an.svg.png

Naval jack:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... an.svg.png

State flag:


Great Seal/Coat of Arms:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... nisani.svg

Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy, de facto military dictatorship
Ruling Political Party: Turkish National Movement
Territory/Borders: https://uahsibhistory.wikispaces.com/fi ... sevres.png
Language: Turkish
Notable Religions: Islam, Armenian Orthodoxy, Greek Orthodoxy
Notable Ethnic Groups: Turks, Greeks, Armenians
Population: 13.000.000
Allies: None, really
Rivals: Greece, Britain, France, Armenia, Italy, Russia
Goals: Let the Turkish State survive, one way or another, preferably with the Sultan still on the throne. More important, however, is the reconquest of Istanbul, Edirne, the Hellenic Coast, Armenia, and the rest of Anatolia. Going from there, the Ottoman government can look at retaking Syria, Cyprus, and parts of Iraq
Economic Strength: 3
Stability: 2
National anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36sO84Hq6kw
History: The Ottoman Empire, starting from the beginning of the 19th Century, was the sick man of Europe. Territories wriggled themselves from the Empire in increasing severity, with European powers picking up the pieces from that dissolution. Austria-Hungary and Russia both tore into the European holdings of the Empire, Balkanising the Balkan region between various sovereign kingdoms. This area became a hotbed of tension, both for political reasons, ancient grudges, and territorial disputes. Twice in the early 20th century, the Balkans erupted into war. The third time, in 1914, it pulled in the entire world. The First World War was devastating for the whole world, but especially for the Ottoman Empire. After some initial victories against the British and the Russians, the war began to turn against them. The Brits forced their way into Mesopotamia and Judea, with the Arab revolt taking the Arabian peninsula by storm. Austria-Hungary blew up, Germany collapsed, Russia turned into a communist state, and eventually, the Ottomans too fell. Under the Treaty of Sévres, the Ottomans lost Edirne and Izmir to Greece, The Straight they lost to the International Community, Syria and Eastern Anatolia were ceded to France, Armenia was given her own independent state, Italy gained large parts of southern and western Anatolia, and Britain stood by to watch it all.

This treaty still had to be ratified, however, and this was where the problems really started. Turkish nationalists loathed the treaty, and saw the partition of Turkish land as a slight against their people. The Turkish nationalists, united in the Turkish National Movement and led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, resisted it, and prevented parliamentary ratification of the treaty. In response, the Allied powers occupied Istanbul, arresting large parts of the Movement membership. The Movement then fled to Ankara, where they instituted a rival republican government. This rival government assembled armed forces, and began military campaigns in support of local nationalist militias springing up all over Anatolia. Especially the Greek landing at Izmir spurred unrest. While the Ottoman Sultan tried desperately to keep his government afloat against the Turkish nationalists, those same nationalists began to make gains against the allies.

Currently, Anatolia is in a state of stalemate. Greek troops have been forced back, and French and British forces are looking for ways out of the war. Supported by Russia, the Turks have gained quite a strong army, ready to remove the Greeks from their native soil. The Ottoman Sultan is looking across the Hellespont with a worried frown, asking himself what the future of his Empire might bring.

Army Size and Description:
90.000 troops, equipped with Russian rifles, machine guns and munitions. A new nationalist army has been created recently, with a great many former Ottoman officers. This army is experienced in the field, having served during World War One, and her officers are of good quality. The equipment is modern, and the leadership well-organised.
Navy Size and Description:
Non-existent
Air Force Size and Description
3 aviation units
1 naval aviation unit
1 flight school
Main Military Commanders:
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Commander in Chief
Fevzi Pasha
İsmet Pasha
Kâzım Pasha
Ali Fuat Pasha

[Cabana]

Well by that do you mean Ukraine and Belarus along with that, cause Russia didn't control them, they were still independent states until 1923.

Hold on, I can't speak about belarus, but I know for a fact that the Ukraine nevEr independent. There were a number of nationalist movements that claimed Independence but none of them actually ever exerted any control. The current self proclaimed government of Ukraine is the director it and they don't have any actual power. All the territories of the western territories of the former Russian Empire with exception to Poland, the Baltic states, and Finland are firmly under Soviet control.

The Ukrainian SSR was independent until 1922 alongside Belarus and Russia when they unified into the Soviet Union. So, because they are independent states, I'm having them on the map.