1923: Blood, Iron, Martyrdom - OOC/Open/Signups | AltHis

[Iffria]

Has my nation been approved?

[Apror]

Well, I have 800 A-20 Light Tanks. (Made up name

A.28 mm Main Cannon
B. 2 person crew
C. 40k/hr on road
25k/hr over rough terrain
D. 70 (terrain)/ 100 (road) fuel autonomy
E: 20mm armor.
F. Weight: 6 tones.

[Arventum]

Well, I have 800 A-20 Light Tanks. (Made up name

A.33mm Main Cannon
B. 2 person crew
C. 40k/hr on road
25k/hr over rough terrain
D. 70 (terrain)/ 100 (road) fuel autonomy
E: 22mm armor.
F. Weight: 6.5 tones.

We'll have to have someone else weigh in. I need to do research on tanks, actually, so I can handle situations like this.

Where's Democratic East-Asia?

[Arventum]

Btw, a lot of that is similar to the Renault FT. You can't just make a copy of the tank, Apros. I already told you that :c

Currently, my nation is using a tank with a 55mm cannon, 2 12.7 mm machine guns (they aren't the greatest, sadly), it has a front armor of 62mm , a crew of 3, and a speed of 31 km/hr on open road. I'm not sure if that would be light, medium, or intermediary, but, yeah, there it is. It's new-ish... But we'll need to update it very quickly, seeing as how it's 1923 ;-;

[Greater Slavic Union]

Decided something.

- 1,500 Tanks JuT-21 (Jugoslavija Tenk 1921); it has the following characteristics:

a. 47mm main cannon
b. 3 people crew
c. 55 km/h on roads; 30 km/h on rough terrain
d. 120 (terrain)/150 (road) fuel autonomy
e. 30mm of frontal armour; 17mm of side and read armour
f. weight: 9,5 tonnes

[Apror]

Btw, a lot of that is similar to the Renault FT. You can't just make a copy of the tank, Apros. I already told you that :c

Currently, my nation is using a tank with a 45mm cannon, 2 12.7 mm machine guns (they aren't the greatest, sadly), it has a front armor of 45mm , a crew of 3, and a speed of 31 km/hr. I'm not sure if that would be light, medium, or intermediary, but, yeah, there it is. It's new-ish... But we'll need to update it very quickly, seeing as how it's 1923 ;-;

I tried making some adjustments, and this seems to be a fairly decent model. I'm going to make it lighter.

[Arventum]

I need to make a decision on my tank. Maybe 31 km/hr is too slow.

[Apror]

I need to make a decision on my tank. Maybe 31 km/hr is too fast.

On my Medium and Heavy tank, I'm just going to Research other tanks of the time period, then just BS it.

[Apror]

Well, I have 800 A-20 Light Tanks. (Made up name

A.28 mm Main Cannon
B. 2 person crew
C. 50k/hr on road
30/hr over rough terrain
D. 70 (terrain)/ 100 (road) fuel autonomy
E: 20mm armor.
F. Weight: 6 tones.

New, but not so Improved A-17!

[Arventum]

Btw, a lot of that is similar to the Renault FT. You can't just make a copy of the tank, Apros. I already told you that :c

Currently, my nation is using a tank with a 55mm cannon, 2 12.7 mm machine guns (they aren't the greatest, sadly), it has a front armor of 62mm , a crew of 3, and a speed of 31 km/hr on open road. I'm not sure if that would be light, medium, or intermediary, but, yeah, there it is. It's new-ish... But we'll need to update it very quickly, seeing as how it's 1923 ;-;

My light tank has a 32 mm cannon, 1 12.7 mm heavy machine gun, 34mm front armor, a crew of 2, and a speed of 42 km/hr on the open road.

The medium tank will be the Puni P-10, and the light tank will be the Puni PN-7.

I'm not sure how common heavy tanks were in 1923, though. Probably not very xD

[Iffria]

Has my nation been approved?

[Democratic East-Asia]

I need to make a decision on my tank. Maybe 31 km/hr is too slow.

Woah there.

This is 1923. Tanks that go above 20 km / h are unheard of at this point. Heavy and medium tanks really don't exist as of now. Also, you need to factor in engine power as well.

[Arventum]

I need to make a decision on my tank. Maybe 31 km/hr is too slow.

Wow wow wow.

This is 1923. Tanks that go above 20 km / h are unheard of at this point. Heavy and medium tanks really don't exist as of now.

The compass has spoken. I was feeling iffy as soon as I gave my numbers, but didn't have my compass. Thank you for replying xD

I forgot how sucky tanks were at this point.

My medium tank will be going 12 km/hr, and my light tank 17 km/hr. Is that better? What about the armor, and cannon info that I gave?

[Greater Slavic Union]

Decided something.

- 1,500 Tanks JuT-21 (Jugoslavija Tenk 1921); it has the following characteristics:
a. 47mm main cannon
b. 3 people crew
c. 17 km/h on roads; 9 km/h on rough terrain
d. 120 (terrain)/150 (road) fuel autonomy
e. 30mm of frontal armour; 17mm of side and read armour
f. weight: 9,5 tonnes

[Democratic East-Asia]

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The compass has spoken. I was feeling iffy as soon as I gave my numbers, but didn't have my compass. Thank you for replying xD

I forgot how sucky tanks were at this point.

My medium tank will be going 12 km/hr, and my light tank 17 km/hr. Is that better? What about the armor, and cannon info that I gave?

Those speeds seem fine, although you have to remember that engine power sucks as of now. Armor tends to be quite thin (2 inches would be thick for the time. The British MK1 had like 12 mm). Imo medium tanks are still some time off, as tanks as a whole just suck as of now.

As for guns, don't go for anything above 75 mm. Most tanks during this time had small guns.

[Democratic East-Asia]

From another RP I was in. Random tank. Note that it is post WW2.

T-12 Heavy Tank (Real Life IS-7)


*Note: Slightly different from the IS-7

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Overview:

Development Date: 1946-1948
Number made: ~500 as of now (?) [TBD]
Produced: 1949- (?) [TBD]
In service: 1950- (?) [TBD]
Wars: ??? [will depend on later history]

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Specifications

Crew: 4

Height: 2.53 m
Width: 3.57 m
Length: 7.41 m

Weight: 69.4 tons
Engine Power: 1200 hp
Speed limit: 60 km/h / 28 km/h (forwards and reverse respectively)
Operational Range: 400 km
Power / Weight ratio: 16.57 hp / ton
Traverse speed: 30 degrees / sec (hull). 28 degrees / sec (turret).

Armor: (In RHA)
Hull front: upper glacis 150 mm at double angle of 57°/ 55° (~480 mm), lower glacis 210 mm at 50° (~274 mm)
Hull sides: 150 mm at 45° (~212 mm)
Hull rear: 110 mm (mostly flat)

Turret front: 240-270 mm at various angles (+350 mm for gun mantlet) = ~360-486 mm effectively. Up to ~700 mm at mantlet.
Turret side: 210-240 mm (various angles) = ~240-338 mm
Turret rear: 160 mm (mostly flat)

Gun: 130 mm A-30 (Autoloader, 7.5-10 second reload)
254 mm armor penetration with APCBC at 1 km. 230 mm at 2 km. 288 at 100 m.
342 mm armor penetration with APDS at 1 km. 330 mm at 2 km. 348 at 100 m.
420 mm all ranges for HEAT.

+can use HE.

[Arventum]

The light Puni PN-7 has a 42mm cannon, 2 12.7 mm heacy machine guns, 13mm front armor, a crew of two, and a speed of 15 km/hr.

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The compass has spoken. I was feeling iffy as soon as I gave my numbers, but didn't have my compass. Thank you for replying xD

I forgot how sucky tanks were at this point.

My medium tank will be going 12 km/hr, and my light tank 17 km/hr. Is that better? What about the armor, and cannon info that I gave?

Those speeds seem fine, although you have to remember that engine power sucks as of now. Armor tends to be quite thin (2 inches would be thick for the time. The British MK1 had like 12 mm). Imo medium tanks are still some time off, as tanks as a whole just suck as of now.

As for guns, don't go for anything above 75 mm. Most tanks during this time had small guns.

These will be the rules we follow. Someone needs to write this stuff down since I won't remember.

[Arventum]

From another RP I was in. Random tank. Note that it is post WW2.

T-12 Heavy Tank (Real Life IS-7)

(Image)
*Note: Slightly different from the IS-7

---

Overview:

Development Date: 1946-1948
Number made: ~500 as of now (?) [TBD]
Produced: 1949- (?) [TBD]
In service: 1950- (?) [TBD]
Wars: ??? [will depend on later history]

---

Specifications

Crew: 4

Height: 2.53 m
Width: 3.57 m
Length: 7.41 m

Weight: 69.4 tons
Engine Power: 1200 hp
Speed limit: 60 km/h / 28 km/h (forwards and reverse respectively)
Operational Range: 400 km
Power / Weight ratio: 16.57 hp / ton
Traverse speed: 30 degrees / sec (hull). 28 degrees / sec (turret).

Armor: (In RHA)
Hull front: upper glacis 150 mm at double angle of 57°/ 55° (~480 mm), lower glacis 210 mm at 50° (~274 mm)
Hull sides: 150 mm at 45° (~212 mm)
Hull rear: 110 mm (mostly flat)

Turret front: 240-270 mm at various angles (+350 mm for gun mantlet) = ~360-486 mm effectively. Up to ~700 mm at mantlet.
Turret side: 210-240 mm (various angles) = ~240-338 mm
Turret rear: 160 mm (mostly flat)

Gun: 130 mm A-30 (Autoloader, 7.5-10 second reload)
254 mm armor penetration with APCBC at 1 km. 230 mm at 2 km. 288 at 100 m.
342 mm armor penetration with APDS at 1 km. 330 mm at 2 km. 348 at 100 m.
420 mm all ranges for HEAT.

+can use HE.

I can't wait until these, and ATGMs. ;-;

[Greater Slavic Union]

Guys, tell me something about my tank proposal.

[Apror]

Well, I have 1000 A-20 Light Tanks. (Made up name)

A.30 mm Main Cannon
B. 2 person crew
C. 20k/hr on road
12/hr over rough terrain
D. 70 (terrain)/ 100 (road) fuel autonomy
E: 8mm armor.
F. Weight: 6.5 tones.

[Arventum]

Have none of you read what DEA has to say? Speeds over 20 km/hr didn't happen. Armor wasn't over 12mm (I gave my tank 13 because... Well, it isn't much more effective :/. I could easily make it 12). Remember, engines and armor suck right now.

[Apror]

Have none of you read what DEA has to say? Speeds over 20 km/hr didn't happen. Armor wasn't over 12mm (I gave my tank 13 because... Well, it isn't much more effective :/. I could easily make it 12). Remember, engines and armor suck right now.

Shit! I accidentally put another 0! Lol. I'm sorry. Also, I've seen multiple tanks with armor above 12mm by this time, unless I'm screwing up somewhere in muh history. You're right about Engines sucking, but this is when they're getting better.

[Arventum]

Have none of you read what DEA has to say? Speeds over 20 km/hr didn't happen. Armor wasn't over 12mm (I gave my tank 13 because... Well, it isn't much more effective :/. I could easily make it 12). Remember, engines and armor suck right now.

Shit! I accidentally put another 0! Lol. I'm sorry.

2mm armor will do nothing. Make it about 8. Inches/millimeters (DEA used both).

[Apror]

Shit! I accidentally put another 0! Lol. I'm sorry.

2mm armor will do nothing. Make it about 8. Inches/millimeters (DEA used both).

No, that was the speed. I changed the speed from 200k/hr to 20. 22mm armor should be fine though, shouldn't it?

[Apror]

Never mind, I'll change it to 8mm.