Game of Thrones: A Song of Ice & Fire [OOC] -Concluded-

[The Valyria Empire]

Ned is going to leave before Robert's death. Once Ned quits as Hand, Davos and him will go to Dragonstone. While there, word of Robert's death will be known and then the ravens will fly.

There will be no confronting of Ned and Cersei, nor will Ned be injured when Jaime engages him. No sending Beria after the Mountain, etc.

Woohoo, No need for a Dead LP hopefully you get the kids to leave as well (Sansa and her snitching self better not fuck up this time)

I'm slightly saddened cause I slightly hoped for a secessionist movement in the North (I can't really be the a key member of it cause...who really trusts Roose?) but now we're gonna have a red god worshipping king which might cause a few lords to take a double take on him

Ned will certainly be skeptical and will basically be Davos x2 with fighting over Stannis. However, I'm not sure how a secessionist movement would work in the North, unless we only stay in the North. If the North is on the defense, we would surely win as long as the coast lines are safe and Moat Cailin is well defended. Thousands of lives would die in the Neck just from crannogmen wearying them down and the amount of bodies being thrown at Moat Cailin.

Offensive though, would just be a WOTFK all over again and having to worry about the shitty Riverlands is never fun.

[NewLakotah]

Woohoo, No need for a Dead LP hopefully you get the kids to leave as well (Sansa and her snitching self better not fuck up this time)

I'm slightly saddened cause I slightly hoped for a secessionist movement in the North (I can't really be the a key member of it cause...who really trusts Roose?) but now we're gonna have a red god worshipping king which might cause a few lords to take a double take on him

Ned will certainly be skeptical and will basically be Davos x2 with fighting over Stannis. However, I'm not sure how a secessionist movement would work in the North, unless we only stay in the North. If the North is on the defense, we would surely win as long as the coast lines are safe and Moat Cailin is well defended. Thousands of lives would die in the Neck just from crannogmen wearying them down and the amount of bodies being thrown at Moat Cailin.

Offensive though, would just be a WOTFK all over again and having to worry about the shitty Riverlands is never fun.

Wait, so no dead Ned?

[United City States of Oceania]

Question: Are we sticking to the Game of Thrones timeline (even if only vaguely) or not?

[The Valyria Empire]

Question: Are we sticking to the Game of Thrones timeline (even if only vaguely) or not?

Until late 298 AC, everything is canon (not counting custom houses). Once the RP started, we diverged from the timeline. We are only sticking with canon Ned to when he quits as Hand, from there he will depart to Dragonstone.

[United City States of Oceania]

Question: Are we sticking to the Game of Thrones timeline (even if only vaguely) or not?

Until late 298 AC, everything is canon (not counting custom houses). Once the RP started, we diverged from the timeline. We are only sticking with canon Ned to when he quits as Hand, from there he will depart to Dragonstone.

Ooh...
So I could have Tyrion defect to the Starks...

[The Novakian Empire]

That probably won't ever happen, oceania.
Books or show, not even in my headcanon/dreams.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Woohoo, No need for a Dead LP hopefully you get the kids to leave as well (Sansa and her snitching self better not fuck up this time)

I'm slightly saddened cause I slightly hoped for a secessionist movement in the North (I can't really be the a key member of it cause...who really trusts Roose?) but now we're gonna have a red god worshipping king which might cause a few lords to take a double take on him

Ned will certainly be skeptical and will basically be Davos x2 with fighting over Stannis. However, I'm not sure how a secessionist movement would work in the North, unless we only stay in the North. If the North is on the defense, we would surely win as long as the coast lines are safe and Moat Cailin is well defended. Thousands of lives would die in the Neck just from crannogmen wearying them down and the amount of bodies being thrown at Moat Cailin.

Offensive though, would just be a WOTFK all over again and having to worry about the shitty Riverlands is never fun.

As a Tully, I am offended

[The Valyria Empire]

Ned will certainly be skeptical and will basically be Davos x2 with fighting over Stannis. However, I'm not sure how a secessionist movement would work in the North, unless we only stay in the North. If the North is on the defense, we would surely win as long as the coast lines are safe and Moat Cailin is well defended. Thousands of lives would die in the Neck just from crannogmen wearying them down and the amount of bodies being thrown at Moat Cailin.

Offensive though, would just be a WOTFK all over again and having to worry about the shitty Riverlands is never fun.

As a Tully, I am offended

Not my fault it's in the worst location. Literally you border every region but Dorne, and have no natural defenses or stand out castles. (Ruined Harrenhal does not count).

If I want the North to win the coming war we have to ignore the Riverlands, cause they're the battlegrounds of literally 95% of all wars.

Freaking gingers

Also Kernan, you should totally find a bard and just have him play "The Rains of Castamere" that will remind this upstart house not poke the golden lion.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

As a Tully, I am offended

Not my fault it's in the worst location. Literally you border every region but Dorne, and have no natural defenses or stand out castles. (Ruined Harrenhal does not count).

If I want the North to win the coming war we have to ignore the Riverlands, cause they're the battlegrounds of literally 95% of all wars.

Freaking gingers
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True, the Riverlands are the weakest territory geographically, though they have a decent Army, and Riverrun is a pretty strong Keep.

It will be interesting to see if Tywin can steamroll the Tully's like he did in the lore.

[The Novakian Empire]

Aye, but I doubt he will.
I plan to give him a bloody good fight!
also, all of the lannister victories in the riverlands had jaime in command, tywin never won any battle, in fact, he lost one.

[Das Stahlreich]

So, didn't, canonically, Gregor head off to his keep after the Tourney? At least, before he was detoured by a flood and went over to some nameless pub? All before he was called to raid the Riverlands?

[The Novakian Empire]

I'm not sure. I plan to continue my read-through of a game of thrones tomorrow though, so I can check then!

[Vladivostokava]

I hate living in asia. Everyone is awake when I am asleep. I am awake when everyone is off.

[Kernan]

Not my fault it's in the worst location. Literally you border every region but Dorne, and have no natural defenses or stand out castles. (Ruined Harrenhal does not count).

If I want the North to win the coming war we have to ignore the Riverlands, cause they're the battlegrounds of literally 95% of all wars.

Freaking gingers

True, the Riverlands are the weakest territory geographically, though they have a decent Army, and Riverrun is a pretty strong Keep.

It will be interesting to see if Tywin can steamroll the Tully's like he did in the lore.

A Lion will make short work of a trout

[Jhet]

I'll try to get a post up, always distract myself with cat videos and conspiracy threads.

also, all of the lannister victories in the riverlands had jaime in command, tywin never won any battle, in fact, he lost one

From what little we have, the Golden Tooth battle wasn't much, since Piper/Vance had so few men. And the Riverrun battle you could take it or leave it depending on the size of the host, seeing as how many men would have been sacrificed to hold "every village and holdfast" near the border. But nevertheless, two victories. Yet these two victories are suggestive of the "basic" medieval tactics of cavalry swarm. Not to knock it, all the victories we see bar one is reliant on the cavalry advantage.

Tywin, on the other hand, moves against the scattered riverlords on the border, as well as reaching out to seize all the castles. Raventree Hall, Stone Hedge, Pinkmaiden, Harrenhall, Darry, Maidenpool, all fall to Tywin. Maybe it isn't as glorious as winning a pitched battle, but it sure as hell is important for presenting a victorious face. That and you forget that he slaughters about seven thousand northmen at the Green Fork. He won that battle, whether Bolton was throwing it or not by serving himself on a silver platter doesn't negate the victory. Blackwater saw him in command, so you might be able to count that, as he was the one who scoured the city-side and removed the rest of the attackers. Yet, it was the Tyrells who bore the brunt of the south-side fighting, and it wasn't in the riverlands, so maybe, maybe not worth mentioning. Then there are the other victories which can be attributed to Tywin's scheming (Duskendale, Green Ford) but I suppose if he didn't command and one isn't in the riverlands, then it doesn't count.

It does depend on your take of generalship, battle and victory I suppose. If battles are engagements between equal forces then there were no battles. If victories are independent of the greater picture then the Battle of the Fords was one of the redeeming acts of Edmure Tully, and the Green Fork was an appalling display by the Starks. If the general has to physically be there, leading from the front, then Tywin was pretty much a bystander. At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter, since Tywin was the victor of the Stark War of Independence, with the casualties to show how close-run it actually was (~15k Northmen died, ~25k Westermen died, and however many thousand Rivermen (which would sit comfortably about the same number as the Northmen, if not more))

But honestly looking back at the war, Gregor Clegane has the highest victory count. He took out Beric's group, he ravaged the riverlands, he took castle after castle, he smashed the Northmen at the Green Fork and Duskendale and the Green Ford, and only have he had played his part in the victory was he given up like a fleshy coin to buy Dornish support. Robb killed/scattered the most. By far. 11K at Riverrun, then anywhere between 5-10k at Casterly.

[United City States of Oceania]

I hate living in asia. Everyone is awake when I am asleep. I am awake when everyone is off.

I'm awake!
And I live in north america.

[Vladivostokava]

I hate living in asia. Everyone is awake when I am asleep. I am awake when everyone is off.

I'm awake!
And I live in north america.

I sent that in the afternoon. its 9pm now. haha.


Nice to see you!


On another topic can someone help me with english? I need assistance. I do not understand a statement and need it to be explained.

Once I finish ill have time to work on a post.

[Jhet]

I'm awake!
And I live in north america.

I sent that in the afternoon. its 9pm now. haha.


Nice to see you!


On another topic can someone help me with english? I need assistance. I do not understand a statement and need it to be explained.

Once I finish ill have time to work on a post.

Which statement?

[Auchterland]

On another topic can someone help me with english? I need assistance. I do not understand a statement and need it to be explained.

I'm available too. You can send it here or TG me, whichever you want.

[Dentali]

Not my fault it's in the worst location. Literally you border every region but Dorne, and have no natural defenses or stand out castles. (Ruined Harrenhal does not count).

If I want the North to win the coming war we have to ignore the Riverlands, cause they're the battlegrounds of literally 95% of all wars.

Freaking gingers

A Lion will make short work of a trout

Just to point out, As the Tully Player, I have already mobilized the Riverlands and told them to band together and guard the fords and castles. We are adopting a defense in depth strategy led by Blackfish who has returned from the Vale to advise Edmure. The defense of the Riverlands will be essentially a ton of raids and bushwacking Lannister forces while having strong armies at fords and very defensible positions. We are planning a strategy completely different than the one Edmure took in the books, It is going to look more like the Battle of the Green Ford rather than the Battle of Golden Tooth. If you have any questions about the disposition of Riverlands troops so you can write a post let me know.

[Eraus]

A Lion will make short work of a trout

Just to point out, As the Tully Player, I have already mobilized the Riverlands and told them to band together and guard the fords and castles. We are adopting a defense in depth strategy led by Blackfish who has returned from the Vale to advise Edmure. The defense of the Riverlands will be essentially a ton of raids and bushwacking Lannister forces while having strong armies at fords and very defensible positions. We are planning a strategy completely different than the one Edmure took in the books, It is going to look more like the Battle of the Green Ford rather than the Battle of Golden Tooth. If you have any questions about the disposition of Riverlands troops so you can write a post let me know.

Hopefully you didn't go broke after all those projects

[Vladivostokava]

I sent that in the afternoon. its 9pm now. haha.


Nice to see you!


On another topic can someone help me with english? I need assistance. I do not understand a statement and need it to be explained.

Once I finish ill have time to work on a post.

Which statement?

"-and between an encompassing historicity and a jurisprudence of generosity."


What I hope will be filled in is connection; connection between my psyche and the readers', between lived experience and social perception, and between an encompassing historicity and a jurisprudence of generosity.

[Dentali]

Just to point out, As the Tully Player, I have already mobilized the Riverlands and told them to band together and guard the fords and castles. We are adopting a defense in depth strategy led by Blackfish who has returned from the Vale to advise Edmure. The defense of the Riverlands will be essentially a ton of raids and bushwacking Lannister forces while having strong armies at fords and very defensible positions. We are planning a strategy completely different than the one Edmure took in the books, It is going to look more like the Battle of the Green Ford rather than the Battle of Golden Tooth. If you have any questions about the disposition of Riverlands troops so you can write a post let me know.

Hopefully you didn't go broke after all those projects

The only one thats been started is the bridge to the South of the Twins. The rest will take awhile to happen, the point is establishing a clear direction for the Riverlands from a central authority.

[Cruxa]

Which statement?

"-and between an encompassing historicity and a jurisprudence of generosity."


What I hope will be filled in is connection; connection between my psyche and the readers', between lived experience and social perception, and between an encompassing historicity and a jurisprudence of generosity.

so, those are really old words- they don't seem like modern English at all. can I have the source so I can better help you?

[The Novakian Empire]

I'll try to get a post up, always distract myself with cat videos and conspiracy threads.

also, all of the lannister victories in the riverlands had jaime in command, tywin never won any battle, in fact, he lost one

From what little we have, the Golden Tooth battle wasn't much, since Piper/Vance had so few men. And the Riverrun battle you could take it or leave it depending on the size of the host, seeing as how many men would have been sacrificed to hold "every village and holdfast" near the border. But nevertheless, two victories. Yet these two victories are suggestive of the "basic" medieval tactics of cavalry swarm. Not to knock it, all the victories we see bar one is reliant on the cavalry advantage.

Tywin, on the other hand, moves against the scattered riverlords on the border, as well as reaching out to seize all the castles. Raventree Hall, Stone Hedge, Pinkmaiden, Harrenhall, Darry, Maidenpool, all fall to Tywin. Maybe it isn't as glorious as winning a pitched battle, but it sure as hell is important for presenting a victorious face. That and you forget that he slaughters about seven thousand northmen at the Green Fork. He won that battle, whether Bolton was throwing it or not by serving himself on a silver platter doesn't negate the victory. Blackwater saw him in command, so you might be able to count that, as he was the one who scoured the city-side and removed the rest of the attackers. Yet, it was the Tyrells who bore the brunt of the south-side fighting, and it wasn't in the riverlands, so maybe, maybe not worth mentioning. Then there are the other victories which can be attributed to Tywin's scheming (Duskendale, Green Ford) but I suppose if he didn't command and one isn't in the riverlands, then it doesn't count.

It does depend on your take of generalship, battle and victory I suppose. If battles are engagements between equal forces then there were no battles. If victories are independent of the greater picture then the Battle of the Fords was one of the redeeming acts of Edmure Tully, and the Green Fork was an appalling display by the Starks. If the general has to physically be there, leading from the front, then Tywin was pretty much a bystander. At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter, since Tywin was the victor of the Stark War of Independence, with the casualties to show how close-run it actually was (~15k Northmen died, ~25k Westermen died, and however many thousand Rivermen (which would sit comfortably about the same number as the Northmen, if not more))

But honestly looking back at the war, Gregor Clegane has the highest victory count. He took out Beric's group, he ravaged the riverlands, he took castle after castle, he smashed the Northmen at the Green Fork and Duskendale and the Green Ford, and only have he had played his part in the victory was he given up like a fleshy coin to buy Dornish support. Robb killed/scattered the most. By far. 11K at Riverrun, then anywhere between 5-10k at Casterly.

Yeah, Gregor clegane tore through the riverlands. Also, apologies, for some reason I always mix duskendale and the green fork together, so I assumed tywin wasn't the head of that. On the other hand, the fact the opposing commander is throwing the battle kind of ruins ttywins ability to take credit for it.

Additionally, were those sieges really all tywin? I had assumed at least two were the brace companions, those charming fellows.

I have already demonstrated I am a tully fan boy, so I will spare you the rant on how the fords was one of the greatest victories of the war of the five kings, and possibly would have seen tywin run off to kings landing anyway, even without the blackwater.

By the way. My grammar may be shit, that is because I am writing this on my tablet.