Game of Thrones: A Song of Ice & Fire [OOC] -Concluded-

[Recon]

This. Also, who is participating? Apart from Thoros of Myr it does not really specify.

Considering there were 40 participating in the books. I can imagine aside from the top tier of performers in the Joust (in rank and in skill), the rest would brush themselves off and attempt to get the prestige and the coin from the Melee. Considering how easy it would be to kill someone in the Melee. So likely we could build up to around 40. Add some future kings guard, some future Rainbow Guard and other prominent knights in the series. Is there a chance, Ser Hugh will not be the Tourney’s only casualty?

[The Novakian Empire]

This. Also, who is participating? Apart from Thoros of Myr it does not really specify.

Considering there were 40 participating in the books. I can imagine aside from the top tier of performers in the Joust (in rank and in skill), the rest would brush themselves off and attempt to get the prestige and the coin from the Melee. Considering how easy it would be to kill someone in the Melee. So likely we could build up to around 40. Add some future kings guard, some future Rainbow Guard and other prominent knights in the series. Is there a chance, Ser Hugh will not be the Tourney’s only casualty?

A very small one. Everyone's still wearing their plate armour, and only oberyn wants to actually kill someone. Plus, the swords used in the melee are quite possibly blunt.

[The Novakian Empire]

I'm honestly not sure why the melee takes place on horses, since it would be safer and shorter if it was hand to hand on the ground.

[Recon]

A very small one. Everyone's still wearing their plate armour, and only oberyn wants to actually kill someone. Plus, the swords used in the melee are quite possibly blunt.

Still sounds like a dangerous place...

“"The Red Keep has ways known only to ghosts and spiders." Varys smiled apologetically. "I will not keep you long, my lord. There are things you must know. You are the King's Hand, and the king is a fool." The eunuch's cloying tones were gone; now his voice was thin and sharp as a whip. "Your friend, I know, yet a fool nonetheless … and doomed, unless you save him. Today was a near thing. They had hoped to kill him during the melee."”

"The Lannisters," Ned said. "The queen … no, I will not believe that, not even of Cersei. She asked him not to fight!"

"She forbade him to fight, in front of his brother, his knights, and half the court. Tell me truly, do you know any surer way to force King Robert into the melee? I ask you."

Varys shrugged. "There were forty riders in the melee. The Lannisters have many friends. Amidst all that chaos, with horses screaming and bones breaking and Thoros of Myr waving that absurd firesword of his, who could name it murder if some chance blow felled His Grace?" He went to the flagon and refilled his cup. "After the deed was done, the slayer would be beside himself with grief. I can almost hear him weeping. So sad. Yet no doubt the gracious and compassionate widow would take pity, lift the poor unfortunate to his feet, and bless him with a gentle kiss of forgiveness. Good King Joffrey would have no choice but to pardon him." The eunuch stroked his cheek. "Or perhaps Cersei would let Ser Ilyn strike off his head. Less risk for the Lannisters that way, though quite an unpleasant surprise for their little friend." Eddard XII

[The Novakian Empire]

Thing is, murdering someone in a melee is dumb as shit. You have to try pretty hard to get through/around plate, and all eyes would probably be on

the king.

If someone murdered him in a melee, everyone in westeros would know it wasn't an accident.

[The Novakian Empire]

No-one in human history has accidently stabbed someone wearing plate in the armpits, groin, or joints. In hand to hand (on ground at least) swords are not used as swords. Instead, they are flipped around, and used as hammers, to bash the shit out of the other knight you're facing off against. If you don't have a sword, grappling and forcing your enemy to submit or take a dagger to the eyes is also a good tactic.

[The Valyria Empire]

Thing is, murdering someone in a melee is dumb as shit. You have to try pretty hard to get through/around plate, and all eyes would probably be on

the king.

If someone murdered him in a melee, everyone in westeros would know it wasn't an accident.

Accidents happen all the time during these events. Look at Hugh. Even if everyone was watching Robert, he'd be fighting so many people it would be hard to tell which blow could of killed him.

An example, Prince Baelor and Maekar.

During the Trial of Seven, Baelor had his companions fight the others while Baelor went after the Kingsguard. The Kingsguard are sworn not to harm the royal family and he knew that they would not strike him too hard. However Maekar, being really fucking strong hit Baelor's head too hard. His head was damaged and died on the spot after taking off his helmet. He was fine after getting hit, but it wasn't till after the Trial ended and he removed his helmet did he die. Maekar while a bit cold, loved his brother and would never try to kill him. He was the fourth born son, behind his three brothers and Baelor's sons. He wasn't going to inherit.

Something similar could happen in the melee. Robert could easily of been struck too hard by someone. Everyone knows had Robert entered, and Robert himself says this that they would not fight at full strength as they do not want to harm their King. However, with the huge scuffle of the melee it's possible during the many hits Robert could take one could be lethal.

[The Novakian Empire]

Thing is, murdering someone in a melee is dumb as shit. You have to try pretty hard to get through/around plate, and all eyes would probably be on

the king.

If someone murdered him in a melee, everyone in westeros would know it wasn't an accident.

Accidents happen all the time during these events. Look at Hugh. Even if everyone was watching Robert, he'd be fighting so many people it would be hard to tell which blow could of killed him.

An example, Prince Baelor and Maekar.

During the Trial of Seven, Baelor had his companions fight the others while Baelor went after the Kingsguard. The Kingsguard are sworn not to harm the royal family and he knew that would not strike him too hard. However Maekar, being really fucking strong hit Baelor by too hard. His head was damaged and died on the spot after taking off his helmet. He was fine after getting it, but it wasn't till after the Trial ended and he removed his helmet did he die. Maekar while a bit cold, loved his brother and would never try to kill him. He was the fourth born son, behind his three brothers and Baelor's sons. He wasn't going to inherit.

Something similar could happen in the melee. Robert could easily of been struck too hard by someone. Everyone knows had Robert entered, and Robert himself says this that they would not fight at full strength as they do not want to harm their King. However, with the huge scuffle of the melee it's possible during the many hits Robert could take one could be lethal.

Ser hugh was a different case. The fact he was deliberately killed was very hard to pick up, as jousting accidents, while tragic, are also common.

And if someone is wailing on king robert baratheon, the kingsguard would go in, even if it's a melee. Their sworn duty is to protect him, and if a member of the kingsguard, ESPECIALLY barristan, saw someone trying to beat robert to death, he'd fuck that person up.

Becides, even if he's fat and a little old, it's still king robert baratheon. I'd like to meet the crazy motherfucker who wants to fight a well-armoured man with a warhammer.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Thing is, murdering someone in a melee is dumb as shit. You have to try pretty hard to get through/around plate, and all eyes would probably be on

the king.

If someone murdered him in a melee, everyone in westeros would know it wasn't an accident.

Accidents happen all the time during these events. Look at Hugh. Even if everyone was watching Robert, he'd be fighting so many people it would be hard to tell which blow could of killed him.

An example, Prince Baelor and Maekar.

During the Trial of Seven, Baelor had his companions fight the others while Baelor went after the Kingsguard. The Kingsguard are sworn not to harm the royal family and he knew that they would not strike him too hard. However Maekar, being really fucking strong hit Baelor's head too hard. His head was damaged and died on the spot after taking off his helmet. He was fine after getting hit, but it wasn't till after the Trial ended and he removed his helmet did he die. Maekar while a bit cold, loved his brother and would never try to kill him. He was the fourth born son, behind his three brothers and Baelor's sons. He wasn't going to inherit.

Something similar could happen in the melee. Robert could easily of been struck too hard by someone. Everyone knows had Robert entered, and Robert himself says this that they would not fight at full strength as they do not want to harm their King. However, with the huge scuffle of the melee it's possible during the many hits Robert could take one could be lethal.

I was hoping we could put Amory Lorch in the melee, since no one is playing as him.
Oberyn might have to "accidentally" hit him too hard.

[Warg the Immortal]

Accidents happen all the time during these events. Look at Hugh. Even if everyone was watching Robert, he'd be fighting so many people it would be hard to tell which blow could of killed him.

An example, Prince Baelor and Maekar.

During the Trial of Seven, Baelor had his companions fight the others while Baelor went after the Kingsguard. The Kingsguard are sworn not to harm the royal family and he knew that would not strike him too hard. However Maekar, being really fucking strong hit Baelor by too hard. His head was damaged and died on the spot after taking off his helmet. He was fine after getting it, but it wasn't till after the Trial ended and he removed his helmet did he die. Maekar while a bit cold, loved his brother and would never try to kill him. He was the fourth born son, behind his three brothers and Baelor's sons. He wasn't going to inherit.

Something similar could happen in the melee. Robert could easily of been struck too hard by someone. Everyone knows had Robert entered, and Robert himself says this that they would not fight at full strength as they do not want to harm their King. However, with the huge scuffle of the melee it's possible during the many hits Robert could take one could be lethal.

Ser hugh was a different case. The fact he was deliberately killed was very hard to pick up, as jousting accidents, while tragic, are also common.

And if someone is wailing on king robert baratheon, the kingsguard would go in, even if it's a melee. Their sworn duty is to protect him, and if a member of the kingsguard, ESPECIALLY barristan, saw someone trying to beat robert to death, he'd fuck that person up.

Becides, even if he's fat and a little old, it's still king robert baratheon. I'd like to meet the crazy motherfucker who wants to fight a well-armoured man with a warhammer.

Who's trying to kill Robert in the melee?

[The Novakian Empire]

Ser hugh was a different case. The fact he was deliberately killed was very hard to pick up, as jousting accidents, while tragic, are also common.

And if someone is wailing on king robert baratheon, the kingsguard would go in, even if it's a melee. Their sworn duty is to protect him, and if a member of the kingsguard, ESPECIALLY barristan, saw someone trying to beat robert to death, he'd fuck that person up.

Becides, even if he's fat and a little old, it's still king robert baratheon. I'd like to meet the crazy motherfucker who wants to fight a well-armoured man with a warhammer.

Who's trying to kill Robert in the melee?

Any hypothetical asassin. Probably not jaime though, because he already has a reputation as a kingslayer and if jaime just walked up to robert and started wailing on him full force with his sword, people would take action.

[The Valyria Empire]

Nova you missed my point. I was saying that someone could "hit him too hard" and nobody would notice until the end. I'm saying they constantly wail on him, nobody would do that. They would at least try to remain incognito. Anyway, this argument is pointless since it's not happening.

I'm going to RMF the melee anyway.

[The Novakian Empire]

Nova you missed my point. I was saying that someone could "hit him too hard" and nobody would notice until the end. I'm saying they constantly wail on him, nobody would do that. They would at least try to remain incognito. Anyway, this argument is pointless since it's not happening.

I'm going to RMF the melee anyway.

Oooh! Alright, i apologize for my assumption.

And alright.

[The Valyria Empire]

So, who will be participating in the melee? I'll make a list of non canon and then throw some canon characters in as well. Try to get close to 40, but you know...

[Das Stahlreich]

Who's playing Ser Loras?

[Recon]

Who's playing Ser Loras?

Jhet. As the head of House Tyrell.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

So, who will be participating in the melee? I'll make a list of non canon and then throw some canon characters in as well. Try to get close to 40, but you know...

Oberyn for sure.
Could we put Amory Lorch in the Melee?
Oberyn would love to smack him around, or, if allowed, kill him.

[The Novakian Empire]

Caleb's totally in the melee. He wants to put up a good fight in it to mend his injured pride, since oberyn played with him and stomped the crap out of him afterwards.

[Warg the Immortal]

These three will be competing in the melee, Niall will be returning to the North

Ser Robert "the White Lion" Snow:
-The bastard son of Jon "the Sharp" Brude. As the bastard son of a third son he was given a lot of freedom, thus he was able to spend the majority of his time in training. He is the youngest of the Brude competitors in King's Landing and tires his best to emulate his cousin, Niall. At a young age he practiced his swordsmanship and riding. He was eventually knighted by his cousin Niall. He keeps his hair at a medium length, and wears a light stubble. He is 6'1" and muscled, though lithe. He is a fair jouster, a good fighter and a decent shot. He is 17 years of age

Jon "the Kind Lion" Brude:
-Jon is the farthest in line of inheritance of the Brude Clan, thus he has frequently been tasked with repelling bandits and other minor threats. he is the son of Robert the Handsome's third brother, Bernarr the Jolly. He was considered handsome as a youth, but over the years his face and body has become heavily scarred from flame, blade and frostbite. Most noticeable is his missing left ear, and a large split in his lower lip. Despite his gruesome appearance he is well loved by the common folk for his battles against bandits and raiders. Be cause of this he has come to be known as "the Kind Lion". While he typically does not care for tourneys he decided to join his cousins in their trip south due to his wife, Donella's, pregnancy, that he may provide them with wealth to live comfortably. Jon keeps his hair short, but his beard long, to conceal the variety of scars on his face. Jon is 6'4" and burly. He is a good rider, though he is not a frequent jouster. He is a good warrior, but a terrible shot. He is 22 years of age

Willam "the Honourable" Brude:
-Willam is the only son of Willam the Woeful, the eldest of Robert the Handsome's brothers. He grew up hunting in the mountains with a weir wood bow his father gave him as a name day present. From a young age he has had a thirst for glory. He is the eldest of the group and has had more experience in the lists than the others. Though he can be arrogant he is a chivalric fighter tries to follow the code of knights, despite to being one himself, due to his worship of the Old Gods. Willam is relatively light, and thus uses it to his advantage, favouring light armour to allow for more graceful movements in hand to hand combat. Willam is 6'2" and lithe. He keeps his hair at a medium length. He is a good jouster and fighter, and a rather good shot with a bow. He is 27 years of age

[Das Stahlreich]

I'll be sticking to canon, so neither Clegane will be in the melee. At least, if I remember correctly, neither of them are in the melee, correct? It's been some time since I've read the books.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

I'll be sticking to canon, so neither Clegane will be in the melee. At least, if I remember correctly, neither of them are in the melee, correct? It's been some time since I've read the books.

I don't think either Clegane participated.
It's a shame, Oberyn would have liked to give the Mountain a nice poke with his spear.

[Das Stahlreich]

I'll be sticking to canon, so neither Clegane will be in the melee. At least, if I remember correctly, neither of them are in the melee, correct? It's been some time since I've read the books.

I don't think either Clegane participated.
It's a shame, Oberyn would have liked to give the Mountain a nice poke with his spear.

A shame indeed.

I always enjoyed the moment Oberyn got his teeth punched out. Definitely one of my favourite deaths, at the hands of one of my favourite characters, no less. Hopefully the RP will stick to canon enough that the two do face each other during Tyrion's trial by combat.

[The Valyria Empire]

I don't think either Clegane participated.
It's a shame, Oberyn would have liked to give the Mountain a nice poke with his spear.

A shame indeed.

I always enjoyed the moment Oberyn got his teeth punched out. Definitely one of my favourite deaths, at the hands of one of my favourite characters, no less. Hopefully the RP will stick to canon enough that the two do face each other during Tyrion's trial by combat.

Perhaps not during Tyrion's trial but perhaps someone else's *hint* *hint*

[The Forsworn Knights]

Adrian will be taking part in the melee.

[Yaana Noore]

Who's playing Ser Loras?

Jhet. As the head of House Tyrell.

Apparently Jhet. I was rather confused as I listed him as an ancillary character for Renly if allowed, because he is not listed in the Tyrell app. But Jhet then went and wrote him so I assume he is doing so.

Thing is, murdering someone in a melee is dumb as shit. You have to try pretty hard to get through/around plate, and all eyes would probably be on

the king.

If someone murdered him in a melee, everyone in westeros would know it wasn't an accident.

Accidents happen all the time during these events. Look at Hugh. Even if everyone was watching Robert, he'd be fighting so many people it would be hard to tell which blow could of killed him.

An example, Prince Baelor and Maekar.

During the Trial of Seven, Baelor had his companions fight the others while Baelor went after the Kingsguard. The Kingsguard are sworn not to harm the royal family and he knew that they would not strike him too hard. However Maekar, being really fucking strong hit Baelor's head too hard. His head was damaged and died on the spot after taking off his helmet. He was fine after getting hit, but it wasn't till after the Trial ended and he removed his helmet did he die. Maekar while a bit cold, loved his brother and would never try to kill him. He was the fourth born son, behind his three brothers and Baelor's sons. He wasn't going to inherit.

Something similar could happen in the melee. Robert could easily of been struck too hard by someone. Everyone knows had Robert entered, and Robert himself says this that they would not fight at full strength as they do not want to harm their King. However, with the huge scuffle of the melee it's possible during the many hits Robert could take one could be lethal.

Cersei did plan to have Robert killed in the melee, so very possible. Of course she isn't the brightest and it may be likely that the guy doing it gets exposed. Apart from Renly, I'm not sure who is really going to try and hit Robert that hard. Also put Renly in the melee.

So, who will be participating in the melee? I'll make a list of non canon and then throw some canon characters in as well. Try to get close to 40, but you know...

Oberyn for sure.
Could we put Amory Lorch in the Melee?
Oberyn would love to smack him around, or, if allowed, kill him.

I've just realised something which may be a problem. As far as I recall, the Martells were never actually aware of who exactly killed Elia, Aegon and Rhaenys. The rumour is that Gregor Clegane killed Elia and both the children. Oberyn states this belief when he comes to King's Landing in ASoS, and Tyrion believes it too. The reader only finds out that Amory Lorch actually killed Rhaenys when Tywin reveals this later, with Oberyn getting confirmation that Clegane offed Elia/Aegon and Lorch got Rhaenys from Tyrion in the cells.

So as far as Oberyn (and Ned) should be aware, is that the major rumour is that the Mountain killed them all. Lorch's role is hidden. Oberyn will still need a confession that the orders did come Tywin, course.