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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:56 am
by Cruxa
Eraus wrote:
Cruxa wrote:true, but no one said it was a loving marriage.

If it ain't for love the why would a Bastard marry some knight?
Especially since that bastard is of a great house

another good point.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:38 am
by Vladivostokava
Can someone review my app and give me tips and ideas. Ill get back to you after a nap. I went drinking with my friends.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:32 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
Will Stannis be offering Renly terms as he did in the real Lore? If he does, and Renly accepts, its basically game over for the Lannister's, and the end of the War.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:59 pm
by The Valyria Empire
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Will Stannis be offering Renly terms as he did in the real Lore? If he does, and Renly accepts, its basically game over for the Lannister's, and the end of the War.

If Renly accepts that would be very out of character. Renly will still have the bigger army. And it will take a while for the North and what's left of the Riverlands to reach KL. Renly has access to the Rose Road and thus can reach the capital faster than the King's Road can.

Thus bigger army diplomacy (not counting shadow babies)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:02 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
The Valyria Empire wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Will Stannis be offering Renly terms as he did in the real Lore? If he does, and Renly accepts, its basically game over for the Lannister's, and the end of the War.

If Renly accepts that would be very out of character. Renly will still have the bigger army. And it will take a while for the North and what's left of the Riverlands to reach KL. Renly has access to the Rose Road and thus can reach the capital faster than the King's Road can.

Thus bigger army diplomacy (not counting shadow babies)

The Lannister's are in a shit position then

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:58 pm
by Castain
The Valyria Empire wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Will Stannis be offering Renly terms as he did in the real Lore? If he does, and Renly accepts, its basically game over for the Lannister's, and the end of the War.

If Renly accepts that would be very out of character. Renly will still have the bigger army. And it will take a while for the North and what's left of the Riverlands to reach KL. Renly has access to the Rose Road and thus can reach the capital faster than the King's Road can.

Thus bigger army diplomacy (not counting shadow babies)


Well, even with the bigger army, a siege is no easy task, especially the capital.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:05 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
Castain wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:If Renly accepts that would be very out of character. Renly will still have the bigger army. And it will take a while for the North and what's left of the Riverlands to reach KL. Renly has access to the Rose Road and thus can reach the capital faster than the King's Road can.

Thus bigger army diplomacy (not counting shadow babies)


Well, even with the bigger army, a siege is no easy task, especially the capital.

The Crownlands have a very small military though, and the primary defence of King's Landing usually falls to the Gold Cloaks, who, against professional soldiers, would get shredded.

Renly, who has a military of 35,000 Stormlanders, and close to 100,000 Reachmen, could seize the Crownlands in a heartbeat.
What the Joffrey/Tywin player's need to do is to somehow get Stannis and Renly fighting each other, because even Tywin cannot fight a war on three fronts.

On a different note, Oberyn v Beric, how easy of a task would the Red Viper have in this bout do you guys think?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:12 pm
by The Novakian Empire
His performance in the tilts was pretty shit, so i'd say oberyn would tear him to shreds if they went head to head.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
The Novakian Empire wrote:His performance in the tilts was pretty shit, so i'd say oberyn would tear him to shreds if they went head to head.

He was beaten by Thoros of Myr at the real Tourney, who I would put below Oberyn by far.

Once the Joust is complete, how will we be doing the melee and Archery competition?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:26 pm
by Jhet
Well we have seen that the capital can be seized surprisingly swiftly. It took what, a couple hours without any real siege engines for Stannis to overwhelm the defenders? And that is after having his fleet burnt to a crisp which resulted in the near enough wiping out of the vanguard (the knights and maa on the boats) who were meant to establish a beachhead.

EDIT: damn those riverlords are gonna be angry when they hear of those plans.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:46 pm
by McNernia
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
McNernia wrote:Name:Ser Aron Trioch
House:Trioch
Age:50?
Gender:Male
Titles:Ser, Lord of Eaglesford
House Seat:Eaglesford
Eaglesfords Location:
([url=Inked350px-Crownlands_LI%20House%20Trioch%20Location.jpg]Image[/url])
The white dot.
House Sigil:
([url=House_Trioch.png]Image[/url])
Allegiance paid to: Baratheons of Kings landing, Nominally
[b]Appearance (Picture appreciated):

(Image)
Personality:Recluse, devoted to his family and unyielding on the field of battle. Finds Lannister methods distasteful but knows Tywin is a logical man first and formost. But deems child killing to be unnecessary.
Skills:Master Swordsman, skilled strategist, somewhat poor politician.
Weaponry (If any):Possible Iron Islands origin hand and a half sword, rumored to be a favor of the Rosbys or perhaps Hoares.
Military Strength:600
Biography:
The old soldier of the ford was born in the time of King Aerys, of that no one can deny, he was a squire for his father who taught him much of the arts of war. He was a quick learner who knew what was needed. However he is someone who will do what he must to protect his family. But the Trioches as one of the favored houses of Targaryen know the rewards of loyalty and duty to the Targaryens. Hence only when the Northmen had surrounded Eaglesford and word reached the castle that Tywin Lannister had promptly sacked the capitol and killed the Royal Family had seen him being a man without a family. He and his wife had been struggling to have a child for a long time. Several miscarrages had not been kind to his beloved wife. A Frey as his father believed that having favor with the second house of the riverlands was good. Even though the Trioches keep the old Gods they are not above the use of various things to get there way.

Though Aron was hesitant in marrying a Frey with the young Lord of that house being a womanizer per the odd reports he got. He grew to love his wife and he would mourn the loss of several children. Not in the cradle, several miscarriages. When his eldest son was born as well as the rest of his children around the time of the Greyjoy rebellion where he proved the loyalty of House Trioch to the Baratheons of Kings Landing by being close to Barristan Selmy in the combat at Great Wyck with the Lord Commander and him become friends.

Now he will watch his eldest son ride in his fourth tourney and move to speak to Eddard Stark.

RP Example:
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Notes: (Please put here any ancillary characters you will likely play as, for example, Tywin Lannister would probably control Jaime, Hoster Tully would also control Brynden Tully, Robert and Stannis etc etc. Keep in mind your ancillary characters can still be apped by other nations.)
Diana Frey:38-Wife
Olan Trioch:20-Eldest Son
Mara Trioch:18-His Eldest daughter
Gabrelle Trioch-16
Mordon Trioch-18 Twin Brother to Mara
Allan Trioch-14


This is inspired by my Game of Thrones Ascent House. I give you, House Trioch of Eaglesford.
House Name:House Trioch of Eaglesford
House Sigil:
http://emilion-3.deviantart.com/art/Hou ... -668590500
House Words:Ever Ready and Ever Strong
Allegiance Paid to:House Baratheon of the Crownlands (Nominally), Agents of House Trioch search for Targaryen survivors.
House Seat (Map location required, picture of Castle/town appreciated):
Map Location:At the tip of the junction of the Gods-eye and the Black water rush.
The white dot.
http://emilion-3.deviantart.com/art/Cro ... -668589383
Eaglesford Castle:
http://wallpaperbackgrounds.com/Content ... -28790.jpg
Approx Number of military at command:600 Soldiers
History of the House (At least two well written paragraphs please):
House Trioch of Eaglesford is a House that has been ever ready to serve. They rose to prominence in the time of Aegon the Conqueror with their actions as stewards for the Rosbys. Urging them to be quick about bending the knee to Aegon lest they be found wanting. The Trioch name was made in the service of the Old Gods though they were under House Hoare conversion though came swiftly after the Rosbys gave them favor. With Family legends speaking of resistance to Andals and others of resistance to the Red Kings of the Dreadfort. As ancient Knights stripped of their title they had wandered.

The founder of the House was knighted by the Lord of Rosby when Aegon took over and the Trioches were knights for many generations serving the House of Rosby until the time of the Blackfyre Rebellion. In the Aftermath of the rebellion they were given jurisdiction over the place where Daemon Blackfyres castle once stood. They built their seat across the river from where Dragonstounge was. The Trioches had served as stewards to the Black Dragon many proclaimed. The answer as to how they survived is closely guarded by the House.

They would go on to provide several prominent knights to the Kingsguard. Ser Ryder Trioch who fought alongside Bloodraven in the last time that he would do battle with Bittersteel.

Lord Commander Olmund Trioch who would see Duncan the Tall named to the Kingsguard.

Ser Calvan Trioch who would be among those of the Kingsguard who died at Summerhall. He was found outside the palace having appearently walked while burning. Dieing without a sound. However it was said he mouthed something.

In this current age the House of Trioch a proud family that owed everything to the Targaryens and was loyal to the house during the time of Roberts Rebellion. They bent the knee when the war was lost and pledged their fealty to Robert Baratheon fighting with honor and distinction in the bloody war for Great Wyck under the Lord Commander of Robert Baratheons Kingsguard, the last of the Targaryen whitecloaks with his honor in tact. The Triochs were appalled at the deaths of Elia and her children and respect the Starks for their actions.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:18 pm
by The Novakian Empire
Jhet wrote:Well we have seen that the capital can be seized surprisingly swiftly. It took what, a couple hours without any real siege engines for Stannis to overwhelm the defenders? And that is after having his fleet burnt to a crisp which resulted in the near enough wiping out of the vanguard (the knights and maa on the boats) who were meant to establish a beachhead.

EDIT: damn those riverlords are gonna be angry when they hear of those plans.

Wait, why?
It'll benefit pretty much everyone aside from the freys, who no-one likes. If they tried to rebel, you bet your ass they'll get stomped into the dust.

The canal is a good idea, but it's enormously expensive and it'll take alot of time. I'd say scrap it, and leave everything else. Use the money from the iron bank to supplement the funds the riverlords have to contribute to other projects, and return anything else from the loan to delay the interest on the loan for a bit.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:21 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
First non jousting post up, Oberyn making his move on Eddard.
How's the writing? I am usually a River Lord in GOT RP's, so trying to get into the mind of Oberyn and the other Dornish is much different to what I am used to.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:23 pm
by Cruxa
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
The Novakian Empire wrote:His performance in the tilts was pretty shit, so i'd say oberyn would tear him to shreds if they went head to head.

He was beaten by Thoros of Myr at the real Tourney, who I would put below Oberyn by far.

Once the Joust is complete, how will we be doing the melee and Archery competition?

I say the melee is just combat roleplay, single elimination

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:24 pm
by Warg the Immortal
Cruxa wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:He was beaten by Thoros of Myr at the real Tourney, who I would put below Oberyn by far.

Once the Joust is complete, how will we be doing the melee and Archery competition?

I say the melee is just combat roleplay, single elimination

Thats not how the melee works, its one massive group all fighting each other

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:30 pm
by The Forsworn Knights
Warg the Immortal wrote:
Cruxa wrote:I say the melee is just combat roleplay, single elimination

Thats not how the melee works, its one massive group all fighting each other

Assign all participants a number, and random number generate it, then have one post detailing the Melee with a basic story about how the victor came to win?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:33 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Warg the Immortal wrote:Thats not how the melee works, its one massive group all fighting each other

Assign all participants a number, and random number generate it, then have one post detailing the Melee with a basic story about how the victor came to win?

The big issue and randomness like this is that it does not allow for skill to factor in. It would not make much sense for say, Lothar Brune to come out on top of a field with competitors like Loras Tyrell, and Sandor Clegane.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:34 pm
by Yaana Noore
The Valyria Empire wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Will Stannis be offering Renly terms as he did in the real Lore? If he does, and Renly accepts, its basically game over for the Lannister's, and the end of the War.

If Renly accepts that would be very out of character. Renly will still have the bigger army. And it will take a while for the North and what's left of the Riverlands to reach KL. Renly has access to the Rose Road and thus can reach the capital faster than the King's Road can.

Thus bigger army diplomacy (not counting shadow babies)

Stannis would always offer the terms, but if this goes down a similar route to the canon then I am not sure why Renly would accept the terms. Unless things change a lot then Renly will still have the bigger army.

In fact Renly would likely have double the men Stannis had if he were to attack King's Landing. And he could have far more if he so wished (but maintaining an army over 40,000 would be very difficult at this time). He even has the Redwyne Fleet in place of the Royal Fleet.

Stannis does have two shadowbabies, course. When will they see use? Who knows.

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:He was beaten by Thoros of Myr at the real Tourney, who I would put below Oberyn by far.

Once the Joust is complete, how will we be doing the melee and Archery competition?

Do people care about the melee and Archery? :P

Also, Dentali, you sure about all that? The amount of money all of that will require is stupendous, in a time where both war and winter are on the horizon it does not seem like the best idea to nigh-bankrupt yourself and your vassals. You then need to spend to maintain the castle, the bridge (which the Freys would go crazy at as you have destroyed their most likely primary source of income) and the canal, which will also likely enrage the lords who are being made to pay for it in addition to watermills and guilds. Plus you have the Tullies policing their waters which does seem overbearing.

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:First non jousting post up, Oberyn making his move on Eddard.
How's the writing? I am usually a River Lord in GOT RP's, so trying to get into the mind of Oberyn and the other Dornish is much different to what I am used to.

Good! Though you might want to be aware that Renly was sitting with Eddard, in case you did not want him privy to their little talk.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
Yaana Noore wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:First non jousting post up, Oberyn making his move on Eddard.
How's the writing? I am usually a River Lord in GOT RP's, so trying to get into the mind of Oberyn and the other Dornish is much different to what I am used to.

Good! Though you might want to be aware that Renly was sitting with Eddard, in case you did not want him privy to their little talk.

Ah I totally forgot Renly was with Ned, I will edit the post accordingly to reference him.
Its not like Oberyn really needs to keep his motivations a secret, every Lord and Lady in the Land knows how much the Martell's hate the Lannisters.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm
by Warg the Immortal
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Assign all participants a number, and random number generate it, then have one post detailing the Melee with a basic story about how the victor came to win?

The big issue and randomness like this is that it does not allow for skill to factor in. It would not make much sense for say, Lothar Brune to come out on top of a field with competitors like Loras Tyrell, and Sandor Clegane.

And in the canon melee Thoros of Myr won because people were afraid to fight his wildfire covered sword. So how do we factor things like fear in, if its done randomly

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:42 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
Yaana Noore wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:First non jousting post up, Oberyn making his move on Eddard.
How's the writing? I am usually a River Lord in GOT RP's, so trying to get into the mind of Oberyn and the other Dornish is much different to what I am used to.

Good! Though you might want to be aware that Renly was sitting with Eddard, in case you did not want him privy to their little talk.


Edited

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:52 pm
by Eraus
Oberyn being a ballsy motherfucker lel
I love it, great post Franc

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:58 pm
by The Novakian Empire
You play oberyn pretty well, franc.
Also, guys, how many more jousts before we can get to the melee?
[edit]
Nevermind, i checked my history and found the challonge thing.
If anyone else is wondering, it's 5.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:12 pm
by Great Franconia and Verana
Eraus wrote:Oberyn being a ballsy motherfucker lel
I love it, great post Franc

Thanks, I like Oberyn, he gives literally 0 shits about anything except his family.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:19 pm
by The Valyria Empire
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Eraus wrote:Oberyn being a ballsy motherfucker lel
I love it, great post Franc

Thanks, I like Oberyn, he gives literally 0 shits about anything except his family.

I'll make a response tonight. Ned will pull Oberyn to the side so that they might discuss this in private.

Also Dentali, this isn't a faction RP please do not list off decrees that the Riverlands introduce, have a character discuss these decrees. Also I'm going to have to retcon one thing.

The Order of the Trident has to be removed. You are not an independent Kingdom thus I will not allow a lordship to have his personal knightly order.

Edit: After re reading that, the Tullys are going to be in huge debt. The Tullys aren't rich, and I doubt the Riverlords will enjoy the greater taxes. That Iron Bank loan is going to kill the Riverlands before the Lannisters ever arrive.