1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC]

[The V O I D]

Also, the French Socialist Republic probably has limited or almost no trade with capitalist nations, a fair amount of trade with "socialist" nations (China, for one), and trades frequently and freely with other communist nations such as Italy.

Really looking forward to seeing Orson's completed app.

How will that work? Since China is a major economic and trade partner of ours, a large percentage of Chinese shipping is handled by Japan as we have a better merchant and military navy to move and defend it than they do themselves. Not to mention the East Pacific is Japan's territory.

Import-wise we'll allow Japanese ships, acknowledging that China needs the 'help'. Export-wise, though... we have rather well trained sailors and such, and our navy isn't that bad. We'll personally see to exporting to China. I'm sure Japan wouldn't want to seem like it was intervening upon China's foreign affairs, now, would it? After all, Korea does border with Chinese territory... and China is probably just looking for an excuse to take northern Taiwan.

[Tracian Empire]

The Imperium will probably close the Suez for all Commies, but it depends on Cambria

[Dires]

How will that work? Since China is a major economic and trade partner of ours, a large percentage of Chinese shipping is handled by Japan as we have a better merchant and military navy to move and defend it than they do themselves. Not to mention the East Pacific is Japan's territory.

Import-wise we'll allow Japanese ships, acknowledging that China needs the 'help'. Export-wise, though... we have rather well trained sailors and such, and our navy isn't that bad. We'll personally see to exporting to China. I'm sure Japan wouldn't want to seem like it was intervening upon China's foreign affairs, now, would it? After all, Korea does border with Chinese territory... and China is probably just looking for an excuse to take northern Taiwan.

Mhm, we charge a shipping tariff for passing through IJN protected waters. Ironclads need fuel. Japan isn't intervening with China's foreign affairs, we've just had a special symbiotic relationship for the past few centuries. Also it's not Korea anymore, it's been thoroughly Nipponized and is now known as Kanshu. China wouldn't take Taiwan, it's become a valuable trade hub as our two cultures have melted together on there.

[Sanabel]

An Odessa-Manchuria railway could be cool. What do you think Japan?

[Dires]

An Odessa-Manchuria railway could be cool. What do you think Japan?

Well our ally China controls Manchuria proper but Japan would like to co-sponsor the route connecting to our cities and ports on the mainland. How far do you plan on expanding Eastward? We should probably discuss spheres of influence.

[Sanabel]

An Odessa-Manchuria railway could be cool. What do you think Japan?

Well our ally China controls Manchuria proper but Japan would like to co-sponsor the route connecting to our cities and ports on the mainland. How far do you plan on expanding Eastward? We should probably discuss spheres of influence.

I'm not certain yet. War in Europe seems more likely to take precedence over colonialism.

[Democratic East-Asia]

The Imperium will probably close the Suez for all Commies, but it depends on Cambria

Plz don't block Chinese ships. China could always use some extra trade. Also, railway running through Manchuria? Hmm.

[Cymrea]

The Imperium will probably close the Suez for all Commies, but it depends on Cambria

Plz don't block Chinese ships.

I would suggest slightly higher tariffs to compensate for that cheap, cheap commie labour. From each according to their ability to pay tolls, to each according to their need to transit the Suez.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Plz don't block Chinese ships.

I would suggest slightly higher tariffs to compensate for that cheap, cheap commie labour. From each according to their ability to pay tolls, to each according to their need to transit the Suez.

Fair enough.

I guess people wouldn't want dirt cheap chinese clothing and stuff to flood their markets. In the meantime while Chinese workers recieve little money and get angry.

[The V O I D]

Cymrea, France will assist you by taking in some of your more radical communist elements if you promise free access to the Suez for the Amsterdam Pact (France, Commie Italy, China [maybe], Post-revolution Spain [maybe, if the revolution succeeds], and Scandinavia [if we succeed in radicalizing the socialists/communists in control of their government]).

Also, just realized, if we succeed in radicalizing Scandinavia, and reinforcing our Western Front with a Commie Spain; the Kingdom of Germania finds itself on a three front war if it tries attacking any member of the Amsterdam Pact. Surrounded and easy to turn into new Commie clay.

[Dires]

The Imperium will probably close the Suez for all Commies, but it depends on Cambria

Plz don't block Chinese ships. China could always use some extra trade. Also, railway running through Manchuria? Hmm.

How about a three-way sponsored rail? China provides the labor, Japan and Ruthenia the materials and resources.

[Dires]

Cymrea, France will assist you by taking in some of your more radical communist elements if you promise free access to the Suez for the Amsterdam Pact (France, Commie Italy, China [maybe], Post-revolution Spain [maybe, if the revolution succeeds], and Scandinavia [if we succeed in radicalizing the socialists/communists in control of their government]).

Also, just realized, if we succeed in radicalizing Scandinavia, and reinforcing our Western Front with a Commie Spain; the Kingdom of Germania finds itself on a three front war if it tries attacking any member of the Amsterdam Pact. Surrounded and easy to turn into new Commie clay.

I wouldn't count on revolution happening in Spain - they sound like fascists. As it is right now, Communist France is surrounded on three sides.

[Cymrea]

Cymrea, France will assist you by taking in some of your more radical communist elements if you promise free access to the Suez for the Amsterdam Pact (France, Commie Italy, China [maybe], Post-revolution Spain [maybe, if the revolution succeeds], and Scandinavia [if we succeed in radicalizing the socialists/communists in control of their government]).

Also, just realized, if we succeed in radicalizing Scandinavia, and reinforcing our Western Front with a Commie Spain; the Kingdom of Germania finds itself on a three front war if it tries attacking any member of the Amsterdam Pact. Surrounded and easy to turn into new Commie clay.

Access to the Suez isn't free for anyone, just varying levels of tolls. Cambria and the Imperium ships pay the lowest tolls, naturally. Trace and I will probably need some TGs to discuss how we charge tolls, to whom, and how much. Probably not exact figures, but we can probably devise some kind of chart that shows a relative scale. It should prove to be another instrument of diplomacy.

Facism and communism - while functionally similar - are from opposite extremes of the classical political spectrum. But a not-communist Spain sounds lovely. Socialism is totally fine by Cambria, but that revolutionary stuff is too chaotic for Cambrian tastes.

[Sanabel]

Cymrea, France will assist you by taking in some of your more radical communist elements if you promise free access to the Suez for the Amsterdam Pact (France, Commie Italy, China [maybe], Post-revolution Spain [maybe, if the revolution succeeds], and Scandinavia [if we succeed in radicalizing the socialists/communists in control of their government]).

Also, just realized, if we succeed in radicalizing Scandinavia, and reinforcing our Western Front with a Commie Spain; the Kingdom of Germania finds itself on a three front war if it tries attacking any member of the Amsterdam Pact. Surrounded and easy to turn into new Commie clay.

I wouldn't bet on Ruthenia leaving Germania high and dry if that were to happen.

[Dires]

Full Nation Name : The Greater Japanese Empire, 大日本帝国, Dai Nippon Teikoku
Majority/Official Culture : Japanese with very slight Korean influences
Territorial Core : Modern Japan, Northern half of Taiwan, Korea, Kamchatka, Primorsky Krai, Kamchatka Krai, Khabarovsk Krai, Sakhalin (including Kurils) Oblast, Magadan Oblast, Chukotka, Alaska, Phillippines, Hawaii, Palau, Mariana Islands, Wake Atoll, Micronesia, Marshall Islands, Midway Wake and Johnston Atolls. Dominion over East Pacific and Dominance of Pacific trade.
Territorial Claim : Pacific Islands in general, perhaps more of Siberia. Dominion over the South Pacific
Capital City : Two Capitals: Kyoto and Tokyo
Population : 55 million

Government Type : Constitutional Imperial Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Economic, Naval Dominance
Much like the Chinese Emperor's Mandates of Heaven, the Japanese Emperors are viewed as semi-divine protectors of Japanese civilization. They seek to assimilate those whom they perceive to have remained backwards and powerless. The empire offers great economic development to all citizens and autonomy to those who voluntarily join. In line with these goals, the Pacific Empire rests on three key principles.
1. Loyalty to the Emperor, the citizens of the Japanese Empire, and the preservation of East Asian power
2. Advancement of the Material and Cultural Development of the Empire and its citizens.
3. Commitment to Strengthening Naval Power, the Sword and Armor of the Empire
Government Focus : Imperialist, Economic, Cultural
Head of State : Emperor Meiji
Head of Government : Ultimate authority lies with Emperor Meiji but he works with his Prime Minister, Sakamoto Ryoma to carry out his reforms.
Government Description : As a Constitutional Imperial Monarchy, the Emperor is head of both the state and government. His government is structured as an imperial bureaucracy with the Emperor on top, his Imperial Council of Ministers below him as an executive branch, the Prime Minister and his party leading the legislative branch (who win power through Parliamentary elections) in parallel. Ultimately, however, the Emperor has final veto power on legislation. The Imperial Courts are organized wholly independent and exist to interpret the Japanese Constitution. As a result of the absorption of Korea in 1598, some of the Confucian Scholarly tradition has been adopted into the Emperor's bureaucratic structure

Majority/State Religion : Shinto with Zen Buddhism syncretism
Religious Description : Shinto is a blend of indigenous Japanese folk practices, court manners, and spirit-worship which dates back to at least 600 AD. When the Tokugawa Shogunate fell to the Imperial Restoration, Emperor Kotei saw the wisdom in strengthening national unity and in pursuit of this goal, consolidated Shintoism into a national state ideology. This would bolster the belief that the Emperor and his line were direct descendants of Amaterasu and the other gods who originally created Japan. Japanese Buddhism was incorporated into this system as additional moral guidance and state structure. For the state, Shinto is seen as a non-religious moral tradition and patriotic practice.

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism and State-Directed Capitalism though social welfare security nets in the form of food and shelter in return for state labor are available.
Major Production : Industrial Equipment, Ships (Commercial and Military), Arms Production, Rice, Textiles, Rich in Natural Resources (Particularly oil, coal, timber, and minerals including gold).
Economic Description : As result of Japan's successful annexation and integration of Korea, it experienced a rapid economic boom which in turn fueled expansion northwards and across the Pacific in pursuit of additional natural resources to sustain this growth. Coupled with China's early industrialization, Japan followed in suit to ensure that it could compete. As a result, the Imperial Home Islands and the Korean peninsula (known as Kanshu) are highly industrialized. In terms of composition, the Japan economy is built on the foundation of State-controlled Zaibatsu (vast clan-led companies) whom focus on industrial expansion, improved agricultural yields, naval and arms production, and resource extraction from the northern colonies. Despite the power of the zaibatsu, the private economy is a healthy animal, fed by private consumer demand and the textile industry.

Japan plays a similar role in Asia the Cambrians play worldwide, serving as favored source of financial and shipping services in the Pacific, engaging in great amount of global trade while maintaining a powerhouse domestic production and resources base. Japanese ships are famed worldwide for their quality.

Army Strength : With a standing professional army of 250,000, the IJA (Imperial Japanese Army) is famed for their fanatical devotion and loyalty to the Emperor, as well as their innovative field and long range artillery doctrine. All Japanese males undergo brief military training as a high school requisite. Infantry are supplied with breach-loading repeater rifles of quality domestic make. In terms of experience, IJA has had of the opportunity to gain experience fighting in all types of terrain, subduing barbarians in the tundras of Siberia, the jungles of Taiwan, and in particular, the landing and establishment of control over islands.
Army Weakness : Though the IJA is a modern and formidable army, it plays second fiddle to the IJN.
Naval Strength : Quality and Quantity. Japan's naval power, alongside with the rest of the Japanese economy, has profited greatly from the successful integration of the former Korean peninsula, and the various Northern colonies rich in natural resources and as a result has been able to produce many world-class shipyards who churn out armored and outright iron ships for the IJN (Imperial Japanese Navy), zaibatsu shipping, and commercial sale to both domestic and foreign consumers. Japanese naval development and doctrine is on the cutting edge as it this Japanese naval power that serves as a backbone for the island-based trade empire. IJN is comprised of 300 ships (combat and non-combat) in total, 120 of which are ironclads or iron hulled ships, favoring 11' and 15' guns designed to pierce armor, crewed and serviced by 75,000 men. As one of the top two navies in the world, only the Cambrians rival Japan in the number of modern iron-clads commissioned. The flag ship, Amaterasu, has just sailed out of imperial shipping yards and as one of the most powerful battleships in existence, is the pride and joy of the IJN.
Naval Weakness : Projection. Japan's is a top naval power. However, it has chosen to center the majority of this power in the Pacific. Occasionally squadrons can be found around the world for various trade and diplomatic missions, as well as to secure shipping lanes but by and large, the IJN is found in the Pacific.
Further Military Description : Imperial Japan undeniably rules the Pacific through naval might, though the Cambrians prove themselves to be worthy rivals. As one of the top two navies in the world, the IJN is the guarantor of the lucrative China trade. The Imperial Army may lack in funding compared to the Imperial Navy but it still possesses some of the fiercest soldiers in the world, famed for their fanatical discipline and morale.

National Goals : To Bring Glory to the Emperor and Prosperity to the Empire
National Issues : Combatting the influence of Western ideologies such as Christianity and soulless Communism. Colonial Policy. Diplomatic Relations.
National Figures of Interest : Prime Minister Sakamoto Ryoma, Defence Minister Saigo Takamori, Imperial Prince Komatsu
National Ambition/Aspirations : Asia for Asians and Maintenance of the Pacific as Japanese domain.

History :
In 1598, the Korean Peninsula was successfully conquered by the Japanese warlord Toyotomi Hideyoshi after he was able to secure a peace deal with the Ming Empire, ceding it's former vassal to the Japanese in exchange for nominal displays of tribute to the Dragon Throne. However, after the Ming collapse, and the Imperial restoration, these nominal tributes ended. This was mostly due to the nature of political reality. While the last Ming Emperor hung himself behind the Forbidden City as his capital was being taken, his successor and family fled to Japan. The Imperial Japanese family, though not politically powerful at the time, offered refuge. Eventually the two families intermarried - truly an Imperial and ancient family.

The Tokugawa had ruled with wisdom and strength throughout the 1600's, binding the national sense of identity and culture together. Additionally, through mandatory intermarriage, encouraged Japanese migration to the peninsula, and effective cultural suppression, the Koreans were thoroughly absorbed into the empire with little distinguishing them from their homeland fellows. Relations with China were cultivated to maintain trade and peace and so the Shogunate encouraged colonization northward, as well as the northern half of Taiwan and on islands westward. However, the Tokugawa's power waned in the late 18th-century as Japan became split over whether or not to adopt China's example in opening up their country to industrialization and re-order. Some argued the necessity for Japan to modernize it's military and economic structures so that it could continue to defend itself and compete against global merchants and Western powers. The conservative faction disagreed, feeling only anger at foreigners for corrupting Japan. Ultimately this led to Emperor Kotei in 1780, breaking long-held precedent in imperial abstention from political matters, issuing the Order to Expel Barbarians in the spirit of the popular movement "Sonno Joi". Sonno Joi, or "Revere the Emperor, Expel the Barbarians" led to several murders of Chinese and Western merchants and foreign retaliation was severe, demonstrating that feeble, traditional struggle would not be a feasible solution to Japan's weakness. With the Shogunate weakened from foreign retribution it was not responsible for, opposition forces rallied around Emperor Komei and the cause for Imperial restoration to power. The Boshin Civil War, lasting from 1785-1787, saw the modernization of Japanese military, naval, and infrastructure as both Shogunate and Imperial factions sought to gain advantage. Ultimately, the Imperial cause won and Emperor Komei was the first Emperor in centuries to formally lead Japan as both head of state and government.

Following the Komei Restoration, the Emperor issued the Charter Oath of 1788 which laid the foundation for what the new empire would be.

"By this oath, we set up as our aim the establishment of the national weal on a broad basis and the framing of a constitution and laws.

1. Deliberative assemblies shall be widely established and all matters decided by open discussion.
2. All classes, high and low, shall be united in vigorously carrying out the administration of affairs of state.
3. The common people, no less than the civil and military officials, shall all be allowed to pursue their own calling so that there may be no discontent.
4. Evil customs of the past shall be broken off and everything based upon the just laws of Nature.
5. Knowledge shall be sought throughout the world so as to strengthen the foundation of imperial rule"

In the years and periods that followed, Japan's social structure, government, military, and economy would be wholly reformed and modernized with the guidance of the Emperors and their loyal ministers. At Komei's death in 1801, Japan had become one of the great industrialized powers of the world. Of particular note was Emperor Jumon, grandson of Komei, who laid the foundations for the world-class naval power Japan is today, by patronizing the establishment of additional shipyards, pioneering naval artillery, and promoting international trade. However, he gained the title of Heavenly Fury, for during his reign, the Philippines were subjugated and brutally colonized so that Japanese/Kanshu immigrants would make up the majority of the population. Now it is his great-grandson, Emperor Meiji who will lead Japan into it's next age of glory.


Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2.5
Comparison Points – Economy : 2.5
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10
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Added some specificity in the military section.

[Dires]

The only advice I have is to maybe re-word 1865 as beginning your industrial revolution. The beginning of each nation's industrialisation was pretty much as big as they could go. There's no need to stress that. And for 1870, five years is a pretty brief period to go from the start of industrialisation to mostly industrialised nationwide. You could just say that developing technologies and sciences is a high priority for your nation. That's clear enough without having to get too specific.

Aside from those small things, and tweaking the military descriptions, it looks good to me.

The reason military descriptions is so important is that we want to establish a very clear idea about each nation's military status - because we realy, really want to avoid textual Calvinball when it comes to any kind of actual conflict. The better the descriptions at the start, the less chance of arguments and fumblings down the road.

Can we get some sort of military ranking for land and naval power? I made much of my app establishing why and how Japan is a top 2 naval power but some of the applications we're getting are just claiming that without any sort explanation.

bump

[Sanabel]

Ruthenia would probably be a decent land power.

[Elerian]

Can we get some sort of military ranking for land and naval power? I made much of my app establishing why and how Japan is a top 2 naval power but some of the applications we're getting are just claiming that without any sort explanation.

bump

That's certainly an idea worth considering.

[Cymrea]

Can we get some sort of military ranking for land and naval power? I made much of my app establishing why and how Japan is a top 2 naval power but some of the applications we're getting are just claiming that without any sort explanation.

bump

Sorry, Dires. I did read it the first time, I'm just not sure about a response.

Maybe? We can definitely discuss it amongst the Co-OPs.

[South Vict]

i'm willing to RP,if you give me another chance.

[Cymrea]

i'm willing to RP,if you give me another chance.

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[Mechanist Combine]

Full Nation Name : Norse Republic of Scandinavia
Flag: Le Flag
Majority/Official Culture : Norsemen
Territorial Core : Sweden, Finland, Norway
Territorial Claim : None
Capital City : Stockholm, Sweden
Population : ~10.5 Million

Government Type : Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Unity, Equality, Order
Government Focus : Defence of borders,
Head of State : Minister Áleifr Arnbjorg (Klassiskt Liberala Partiet)
Head of Government : The Republican Council (Controlling Party: Sveriges Socialdemokratiska arbetarparti)
Government Description : The government has three councils (The Republican Council (3 year terms), the Council of territorial Unions (8 year terms, leaders of unions), and the Democratic Assembly (Public, no terms)). There are three parties currently they are; Sveriges Socialdemokratiska arbetarparti (Socialist), Sverigedemokraterna (Conservative), Klassiskt Liberala Partiet (Moderate Liberal)

Majority/State Religion : "The Old Faith" (Norse paganism)
Religious Description : N/A

Economic Ideologies : Social-Capitalism (Markets and economy managed by the government, citizens are free to start businesses as they wish, but all is owned by the government)
Major Production : Lumber, Ships, Machinery, Raw Metals (Iron/ Steel), Weapons, Fish
Economic Description : The economy is very managed, with expenditures distributed to certain sectors and used there to produce for the country. But citizens are allowed to start their own businesses in certain business sectors, all businesses are in the end owned by the government.

Army Strength & Weakness : With a very in depth training program and the military had fully adopted revolvers in both the sidearm and rifle capacities. The Army is organised into small elite divisions (Bands) throughout the country many are positioned near the country's borders. These bands are only about 3,000-5,000 soldiers.
Naval Strength & Weakness : The Navy specialises in small fast steamships on the other hand ships have a massive lack of hull armor and are very vulnerable to cannon shots because of this, often going down in only one hit. They are light and hard to hit, the vessels have very little anti-ship weapons on them as a result.
Further Military Description: Uniforms (Officers on left, Other on right)

National Issues : Need for imported food due to long winters.
National Figures of Interest : None
National Ambition/Aspirations : The government wishes to fully industrialise the country and become less dependent on other countries for food.

History :

1066: Viking raids cease being profitable and thus stop.
1066-1200: Old Norse societies are still in place, the old faith meets christianity, priests convert many Jarls in hopes of their subjects converting with them. this failed as most of the Norsemen's beliefs were seemingly set in stone.
1200: Jarl Erikson conquers Norway, Sweden and Finland, and begins a reign of terror in Scandinavia, Erikson leads a christian rule
1238: Jarl Erikson dies, a large power struggle begins, many believers of the old faith rally those who wish to oppose christianity
1400: Scandinavia reunited under the banner of Jarl Agmundr, Agmundr is too a christian, his rule is weak though, having poor control over its military
1450: Finnish and Norwegian peasants rebel after the Jarl begins to extort them with heavy taxes, many rebels are believers of the old faith, bitter about having been repressed in their society
1500: The Kingdom of Finland and Empire of Norway split the land in two and rule in peace for a time, both ruled by those who follow the old faith.
1567: The Empire of Norway is attacked and conquered by Finland
1670: The Kingdom of Finland collapses due to economic pressures and breaks into lesser Jarls fight for control of the country.
1700: The Scandinavian Empire is formed after all the factions are conquered. Many still worship the old faith, seeing christianity as an oppressive and cruel religion for leaders to wield against the people.
1790: New SE leadership proves to be cowardly, weak, and cruel, oppressing its citizens, and forcing christianity on them, Its Emperor is rarely seen but its military is well organised and well equipped.
1860: Inspired by the French revolution Scandinavian citizens revolt, quickly taking Stockholm and overthrowing the Emperor, Many of the old faith have taught it to their children, and their children's children, and so on. Ignore the religious law set in place for them.
1861: The new government would begin to form and takes control of the the Empire's former land, the new government would take the name Norse Republic of Scandinavia.
1862: A Constitution is Enacted for the NRS, giving rights to the citizenry and increased rights to workers, introducing socialist policies and managing the economy
1865: The NRS begins to heavily industrialise. seeing the need to become industrial in the modern world.
1870: The NRS has become an partially industrialised nation, producing weapons and ships for other countries but mostly for its own military.

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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Anything else b0ss?

[Mechanist Combine]

i'm willing to RP,if you give me another chance.

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Oh hey, I know you. You are they guy that cannot use grammar and only posts in single sentences.

[The V O I D]

The reason France has no intention of starting an allout war [yet] is because it needs to revamp the military to be good and proper, as well as make sure to form the Amsterdam Pact with Italy and China in the future.

Also, if we do help Spain become communist, we're only really going to be supplying weapons and radicalization/propaganda to native Spanish communists and such; hopefully, that increases their numbers enough to cause a revolt.

At worst, the Basque People's Republic forms as a buffer state, taking up most of eastern-Spain and covering France's ass. That's all we really need. And, if Scandinavia does become more radicalized/communist, then Ruthenia and Cambria and Germany have more things to worry about than if communism grows stronger in Spain and generally speaking in Western Europe.

[Cymrea]

The reason France has no intention of starting an allout war [yet] is because it needs to revamp the military to be good and proper, as well as make sure to form the Amsterdam Pact with Italy and China in the future.

Also, if we do help Spain become communist, we're only really going to be supplying weapons and radicalization/propaganda to native Spanish communists and such; hopefully, that increases their numbers enough to cause a revolt.

At worst, the Basque People's Republic forms as a buffer state, taking up most of eastern-Spain and covering France's ass. That's all we really need. And, if Scandinavia does become more radicalized/communist, then Ruthenia and Cambria and Germany have more things to worry about than if communism grows stronger in Spain and generally speaking in Western Europe.

It's definitely looking like some fun times ahead.