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Cymrea
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:09 pm

Malagasy Kingdom wrote:
Full Nation Name : Kingdom of Visigothica (Latin: Regnum Visigothorum)
Majority/Official Culture : Visigoth is the majority culture in Spain with minorities of Basques and the Cantabrians living in the northern areas. Down south in Morocco there is a majority of Visigoths with most of the Moors being pushed out during the invasion. But the remaining Moors are harshly persecuted and discriminated against by the population. Many Moors fled to the colonies to avoid persecution. In the colonies in South America it is a melting pot of cultures with Visigoths being in a majority with minorities from all over Europe coming here.
Territorial Core : Spain, Morocco, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, and Peru
Territorial Claim :
Capital City : Toledo, Spain
Population :

Government Type : Absolute Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Nationalist, Conservative, and Militarist
Government Focus : The King currently focuses on maintaining order within the colonies and expanding the infrastructure to extract more resources from them. He also attempts to maintain religious unity and persecutes heretics and heathens through the Inquisition. The King also is attempting to create a diplomatic system throughout Europe to counter the recent spread of communism.
Head of State : King Ardo III
Head of Government : Same as above
Government Description : The person of the King himself, a sovereign with absolute authority, stood at the center of the autocracy. The rights of state power in their entire extent belonged to the King. The autocrat further entrusted power to persons and institutions, acting in his name, by his orders, and within the limits laid down for them by law. The purpose of the system was to supposedly benefit the entire country of Visigothica. A metaphor existed likening the King to a father, and all of the subjects of the Kingdom, to his children.

Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholicism
Religious Description : Roman Catholicism has a long history within Visigothica and is the State Religion. There is an Inquisition in place to hunt any heretics and heathens within the Kingdom. The King acknowledges the Pope as the head of the religion.

Economic Ideologies :
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Army Strength :
Army Weakness :
Naval Strength :
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 4
Comparison Points – Economy : 1
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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This is shaping up to be good. I can see how Spain would be ripe for revolution. :)
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Atreidya
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Postby Atreidya » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:46 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Atreidya wrote:At the risk of being upstart, i have to say that isnt very fair as the reservations last 48 hours unless extended with good reason. My app will be finished tonight within the extension granted to me due to the fact i had to cover an extra shift at work. The reservation for new venice was set on 2/24/17 120 hours ago.

True enough. And a fair point.

Rygondria gets a bit of leeway because he's been active in this RP before. It would be great if we could squeeze you both in, though. My first attempt at resolving this is to ask you: would you be willing to allow Ry's claims in exchange for some other states in the interior?

I have a proposal mapped here for you guys. By the way, Ry - you claimed Georgia and Mississippi but not the Alabama between them. I've tweaked it in the proposal here. And for Atreidya, I've added the rest of Wisconsin and Minnesota, a pretty decent claim once you look at it. :)

What do you guys think?

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^^^Just a fancy name I slapped on it. :)


I can deal with that i suppose.

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:47 pm

Atreidya wrote:
Cymrea wrote:True enough. And a fair point.

Rygondria gets a bit of leeway because he's been active in this RP before. It would be great if we could squeeze you both in, though. My first attempt at resolving this is to ask you: would you be willing to allow Ry's claims in exchange for some other states in the interior?

I have a proposal mapped here for you guys. By the way, Ry - you claimed Georgia and Mississippi but not the Alabama between them. I've tweaked it in the proposal here. And for Atreidya, I've added the rest of Wisconsin and Minnesota, a pretty decent claim once you look at it. :)

What do you guys think?

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^^^Just a fancy name I slapped on it. :)


I can deal with that i suppose.

It's a pretty sweet land claim, plus locks down all the southern shores of the Great Lakes for you. Not too shabby. :)
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:16 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Atreidya wrote:At the risk of being upstart, i have to say that isnt very fair as the reservations last 48 hours unless extended with good reason. My app will be finished tonight within the extension granted to me due to the fact i had to cover an extra shift at work. The reservation for new venice was set on 2/24/17 120 hours ago.

True enough. And a fair point.

Rygondria gets a bit of leeway because he's been active in this RP before. It would be great if we could squeeze you both in, though. My first attempt at resolving this is to ask you: would you be willing to allow Ry's claims in exchange for some other states in the interior?

I have a proposal mapped here for you guys. By the way, Ry - you claimed Georgia and Mississippi but not the Alabama between them. I've tweaked it in the proposal here. And for Atreidya, I've added the rest of Wisconsin and Minnesota, a pretty decent claim once you look at it. :)

What do you guys think?

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^^^Just a fancy name I slapped on it. :)

I can accept that

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:33 pm

Rygondria wrote:
Cymrea wrote:True enough. And a fair point.

Rygondria gets a bit of leeway because he's been active in this RP before. It would be great if we could squeeze you both in, though. My first attempt at resolving this is to ask you: would you be willing to allow Ry's claims in exchange for some other states in the interior?

I have a proposal mapped here for you guys. By the way, Ry - you claimed Georgia and Mississippi but not the Alabama between them. I've tweaked it in the proposal here. And for Atreidya, I've added the rest of Wisconsin and Minnesota, a pretty decent claim once you look at it. :)

What do you guys think?

^^^Just a fancy name I slapped on it. :)

I can accept that

Woohoo!

All right, gentlemen...submit those apps as soon as you can. :)
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:38 pm

Well, the IC will be up and running tomorrow, I'll try to post it, but if I can't, I'll let another member of the OP board know so that they can put it up.

Or they can create it right now, I suppose. I've been fairly busy today, and I spent the short free time that I had playing Undertale.
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Cymrea
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:39 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:Well, the IC will be up and running tomorrow, I'll try to post it, but if I can't, I'll let another member of the OP board know so that they can put it up.

Or they can create it right now, I suppose. I've been fairly busy today, and I spent the short free time that I had playing Undertale.

Can do.
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Postby Novacom » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:44 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, the IC will be up and running tomorrow, I'll try to post it, but if I can't, I'll let another member of the OP board know so that they can put it up.

Or they can create it right now, I suppose. I've been fairly busy today, and I spent the short free time that I had playing Undertale.

Can do.


Take your time I won't have access to a computer till Friday let's make it for the weekend so we can also have a few more of these WIP apps done.

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Postby South Vict » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:50 pm

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1870 : Alternative Divergence

OOC THREAD


OP board -Still Pending
Elerian
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Cymrea


[Heard of Reboot of Reboot?! Restart of Reboot of Reboot?!?]

New players welcome!

Do be aware much is under construction!



“Men make History, but not at the time he wishes.”

– Karl Marx__________________________________


But for the sake of argument, what if we could?

Be it a point of divergence or a whole new nation, what if we could make history EXACTLY at the point that we wish?





Hello and welcome to Another Alternative Divergence, an AH/AW RP where the world is your oyster to do whatever you wish. For the sake of continuity, the time now is 1870 C.E., and nations are expanding in a world not quite yet sobered by war for annihilation. What would be your vision of a world shaped by the nation that you call your own?





Again, for the sake of continuity, we should set a few ground rules.

  • All apps need a point of start and build-up – Whether you start from stone age and build it up to 1850 or simply change a few things here and there from 1800’s is up to you, but I would like for all nations to have an interesting history behind it… to prove you are capable AH/AW Rper.
  • All nations MUST be somewhat original – Let’s try to be a bit more creative than having Great Britain at all its glory. You can keep the name and title, but you MUST have some degree of DIFFERENCE between your nation and the IRL ones.
  • Everything can be excused with reason – I am willing to let anything be possible as long as it is stated clearly in the app with full explanation as to why it has come to be for your nation. … Similarly, I will accept NOTHING without a proper explanation.


Nation Application

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[b]Full Nation Name :[/b]kingdom of spain
[b]Majority/Official Culture :[/b] [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]spainish
[b]Territorial Core :[/b] [[place where you have absolute control over]]spain,parts of morracco
[b]Territorial Claim :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]libya,vietnam
[b]Capital City :[/b] [[Its IRL location and name]]castile
[b]Population :[/b]12,300,000

[b]Government Type :[/b] [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]]monarchy
[b]Government Ideology/Policies :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
[b]Government Focus :[/b] [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]to become militaristic as we can
[b]Head of State :[/b] [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
[b]Head of Government :[/b] [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
[b]Government Description :[/b]

[b]Majority/State Religion :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
[b]Religious Description :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]]

[b]Economic Ideologies :[/b] [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
[b]Major Production :[/b]
[b]Economic Description :[/b]

[b]Army Strength :[/b]
[b]Army Weakness :[/b]
[b]Naval Strength :[/b]
[b]Naval Weakness :[/b]
[b]Further Military Description :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]]

[b]National Goals :[/b]
[b]National Issues :[/b] [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
[b]National Figures of Interest :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
[b]National Ambition/Aspirations :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

[b]History :[/b] [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

[b]Comparison Points – Political :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]
[b]Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]
[b]Comparison Points – Economy :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]
[b]Comparison Points – Military :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]
[b]Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :[/b] /10
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-Reservations-

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[align=middle][size=150][u]Reservation[/u][/size][/align]
[b]Nation Name:[/b]
[b]Territory:[/b]
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

Guidance System [[OPTIONAL]]

This is something that I would like to try. We are creating an alternative world, right? Is there any historical divergence that you would like to be uniquely yours? Did the Chinese industrialize faster than Europeans? Did the Vikings settled down and colonized the Americas? Did the plague never wipe out Native Americans? Submit the app below, and you can add ONE alternative point as FACTUAL HISTORY for our RP!

A few things to keep in mind:
  • You can only have ONE Guidance. I’ll be the deciding judge on what is or what is not a single guidance.
  • I would rather like this to be regional or global phenomenon, instead of “Nation A is the STRONGEST IN HISTORY!”
  • Remember, you can always use your Guidance to cancel our others.
    • EX- You can cancel out “Chinese industrialized faster than Europeans” with “Chinese industrialized faster than Europeans EXCEPT the English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and the Dutch, which still managed to industrialize even faster.”
  • If not stated by app or by Guidance, assume that the world was same as before. Of course, every app and every guidance will become something that need to be kept in mind in the RP.

Guidance Application

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[b]Guidance Name :[/b] [[Every great event has a title. Doesn’t need to be fancy, like “Nanauatl hears our woes!” for curing the Smallpox by Spanish, and so on.]]
[b]Guidance Description :[/b] [[What happened?]]
[b]Affected Area :[/b] [[Just Europe? Just Middle East? Global?]]

need help on Spanish names

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:54 pm

South Vict, you obviously have no idea how to roleplay, and you aren't going to meet our minimal standard of quality any time soon. As such, I would kindly ask you to leave.
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Postby Velahor » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:04 pm

I'm totally good with that Mason-Dixon treaty as well. Assuming my app gets accepted, it allows me to add Colorado and Utah to my territory.
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:06 pm

Novacom wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Can do.


Take your time I won't have access to a computer till Friday let's make it for the weekend so we can also have a few more of these WIP apps done.

All right, that gives Ry and Atreidya lots of time to get their apps submitted, as well as Togeria and Orson. :)
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:07 pm

Velahor wrote:I'm totally good with that Mason-Dixon treaty as well. Assuming my app gets accepted, it allows me to add Colorado and Utah to my territory.

I don't think your claims overlap any of those so, Mason-Dixon Treaty shouldn't affect you. But you three can call it something else if you like, or keep it. Either way, it's there for use in your mutual and respective histories. :)
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Postby South Vict » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:21 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:South Vict, you obviously have no idea how to roleplay, and you aren't going to meet our minimal standard of quality any time soon. As such, I would kindly ask you to leave.

please,i'm not in the mood right now

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Cymrea
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Cymrea » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:36 pm

South Vict wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:South Vict, you obviously have no idea how to roleplay, and you aren't going to meet our minimal standard of quality any time soon. As such, I would kindly ask you to leave.

please,i'm not in the mood right now

Your mood is irrelevant. Trace is the OP for this thread; kindly heed his request and stop posting here. Thank you.
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The Brand New Salvatagard Republic
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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pm

Full Nation Name :The Italian Empire
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]Italian
Territorial Core : [[place where you have absolute control over]]Italy, Switzerland, and Austria
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]its Colonies are Tunisia, Libya, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Ghana, Liberia, Mozambique, Western Sahara Territory, Suriname, Guyana, Florida, and Delaware
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]]Rome
Population :around 31 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]]Empire
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]Militaristic, Imperialist, Expansionist, Social-Republicanism
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]a more stronger military, large Empire, large economy, more power to the Emperor
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Government Description :Constitutional Monarchy

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]Catholic
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]Planned-Progressivist in Central, Semi-Marxist in Water regions, Capitalism everywhere else
Major Production :Grapes, Guns, Wine, Paintings
Economic Description :

Army Strength :strong leathered uniform with wool padding, high morale
Army Weakness :low in uniforms, can lose morale quickly, soldiers extremly susceptible to being wounded then any other country/Empire
/Naval Strength :most are Ironclads, "camoflauged"
Naval Weakness :half of the Ironclads are made with old Iron and Steel
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :have a massive Empire like the Spanish Empire, a more stronger military, large economy, powerfull Emperor
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]Anarchists are causing riots, the Italian Democrat Party must be abolished, urbanization, industrialize
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]Julius Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Napoleon Bonaparte, Otto von Bismarck, Emperor Charles V of the Holy Roman Austrian and Spanish Empires, Saint Matthew
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]large Empire

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
570's BC: Roman Republic created
220's BC: Roman Kingdom created
70's BC: Roman Empire created
117 AD: Roman Empire reaches its hieght of power
300's AD: Roman Empire collapses, Eastern and Western Roman Empires created
350's AD: Roman Empire reforms
400's AD: Roman Empire again collapses
800's AD: Frankish Empire gains Northern Italy
840's: Frankish Empire collapses, Kingdom of Italy created
962: Otto I of the Kingdom of Germany conquers Italy, Holy Roman Empire forms
1480's: Holy Roman Empire loses Italy
1618-1648: 30 Years' War
1789-1815: Napoleonic Wars
1848-1861: Wars of Italian Unification

Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]3%
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]30%
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10
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The V O I D
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:31 pm

Um, sir, Italy was reserved by someone else who is still completing their app as far as I know.

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Second Helghan Empire
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Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:32 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Full Nation Name :The Italian Empire
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]Italian
Territorial Core : [[place where you have absolute control over]]Italy, Switzerland, and Austria
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]Tunisia, Libya, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Ghana, Liberia, Mozambique, Western Sahara Territory, Suriname, Guyana, Florida, and Delaware
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]]Rome
Population :around 31 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]]Empire
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]Militaristic, Imperialist, Expansionist, Social-Republicanism
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]a more stronger military, large Empire, large economy, more power to the Emperor
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Government Description :Constitutional Monarchy

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]Catholic
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]Planned-Progressivist in Central, Semi-Marxist in Water regions, Capitalism everywhere else
Major Production :Grapes, Guns, Wine, Paintings
Economic Description :

Army Strength :strong leathered uniform with wool padding, high morale
Army Weakness :low in uniforms, can lose morale quickly, soldiers extremly susceptible to being wounded then any other country/Empire
/Naval Strength :most are Ironclads, "camoflauged"
Naval Weakness :half of the Ironclads are made with old Iron and Steel
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :have a massive Empire like the Spanish Empire, a more stronger military, large economy, powerfull Emperor
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]Anarchists are causing riots, the Italian Democrat Party must be abolished, urbanization, industrialize
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]Julius Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Napoleon Bonaparte, Otto von Bismarck, Emperor Charles V of the Holy Roman Austrian and Spanish Empires, Saint Matthew
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]large Empire

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
570's BC: Roman Republic created
220's BC: Roman Kingdom created
70's BC: Roman Empire created
117 AD: Roman Empire reaches its hieght of power
300's AD: Roman Empire collapses, Eastern and Western Roman Empires created
350's AD: Roman Empire reforms
400's AD: Roman Empire again collapses
800's AD: Frankish Empire gains Northern Italy
840's: Frankish Empire collapses, Kingdom of Italy created
962: Otto I of the Kingdom of Germany conquers Italy, Holy Roman Empire forms
1480's: Holy Roman Empire loses Italy
1618-1648: 30 Years' War
1789-1815: Napoleonic Wars
1848-1861: Wars of Italian Unification

Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]3%
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]30%
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10
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I do not believe that is available.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:58 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Full Nation Name :The Italian Empire
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]Italian
Territorial Core : [[place where you have absolute control over]]Italy, Switzerland, and Austria
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]Tunisia, Libya, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Ghana, Liberia, Mozambique, Western Sahara Territory, Suriname, Guyana, Florida, and Delaware
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]]Rome
Population :around 31 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]]Empire
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]Militaristic, Imperialist, Expansionist, Social-Republicanism
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]a more stronger military, large Empire, large economy, more power to the Emperor
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]Emperor Victor Emmanuel II
Government Description :Constitutional Monarchy

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]Catholic
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]Planned-Progressivist in Central, Semi-Marxist in Water regions, Capitalism everywhere else
Major Production :Grapes, Guns, Wine, Paintings
Economic Description :

Army Strength :strong leathered uniform with wool padding, high morale
Army Weakness :low in uniforms, can lose morale quickly, soldiers extremly susceptible to being wounded then any other country/Empire
/Naval Strength :most are Ironclads, "camoflauged"
Naval Weakness :half of the Ironclads are made with old Iron and Steel
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :have a massive Empire like the Spanish Empire, a more stronger military, large economy, powerfull Emperor
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]Anarchists are causing riots, the Italian Democrat Party must be abolished, urbanization, industrialize
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]Julius Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Napoleon Bonaparte, Otto von Bismarck, Emperor Charles V of the Holy Roman Austrian and Spanish Empires, Saint Matthew
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]large Empire

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
570's BC: Roman Republic created
220's BC: Roman Kingdom created
70's BC: Roman Empire created
117 AD: Roman Empire reaches its hieght of power
300's AD: Roman Empire collapses, Eastern and Western Roman Empires created
350's AD: Roman Empire reforms
400's AD: Roman Empire again collapses
800's AD: Frankish Empire gains Northern Italy
840's: Frankish Empire collapses, Kingdom of Italy created
962: Otto I of the Kingdom of Germany conquers Italy, Holy Roman Empire forms
1480's: Holy Roman Empire loses Italy
1618-1648: 30 Years' War
1789-1815: Napoleonic Wars
1848-1861: Wars of Italian Unification

Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]3%
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]33%
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]30%
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10
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I do not believe that is available.

Might I just say it's not on the map?

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:59 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
I do not believe that is available.

Might I just say it's not on the map?


Communist Italy, is, however a reservation. Reservations aren't always on the map, that's why you should check the reservation and accepted list more than the map.

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Might I just say it's not on the map?


Communist Italy, is, however a reservation. Reservations aren't always on the map, that's why you should check the reservation and accepted list more than the map.

Oh. Ok. :meh:

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:30 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Communist Italy, is, however a reservation. Reservations aren't always on the map, that's why you should check the reservation and accepted list more than the map.

Oh. Ok. :meh:


Ja. Ist gut.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:20 pm

Is my app accepted?

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Blackfoot-Salish Federation App

Postby Velahor » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:57 pm

Full Nation Name : The Federation of Northern Native Tribes (Usually simplified to Blackfoot-Salish Federation, due to these being the founding tribes of the federation)
Flag: http://www.tmealf.com/native_american/Athabascan.jpg (I know this is another real-life tribe's flag, but that was never made in the Alt-Div)
Majority/Official Culture : Northern Plains and Pacific Coast Native American
Territorial Core : Montana, Idaho, Washington, western parts of the Dakotas, Northern California, Oregon, Northern Wyoming
Territorial Claim : All lands reaching south to the border with the Aztek Ascendancy, East to Lake Michigan, and southeast to the border with URA. These lands are considered part of their territory, but are not as highly populated as their territorial core. Religiously, they believe they hold a spiritual claim to certain areas of RL Alberta and British Columbia.
Capital City : Kalispel (RL Kalipell, MT, but considerably larger, surrounding the northern end of Flathead Lake)
Population : 2.4 Million

Government Type : Fascist Government constructed to mirror the structure of the tribes in their more primitive days
Government Ideology/Policies : VERY nationalist, with patriotism and religion intertwined. The Salish, (as all members of the federation are effectively called), believe that it is THEIR duty to protect holy lands from "the whiteskins". However, Europeans are welcome allies and trading partners, but cannot hold a claim to these lands as they do not recognize the "spirits" that occupy the land, and do not perform the proper rituals to protect the spirits.
Government Focus : Healthcare (to ward off smallpox epidemic), reclaiming holy lands, developing modern technology and industry
Head of State : Grand Chief Charles Dark Eagle
Head of Government : Charles Dark Eagle, with military lead by Chief-Warrior William Kootenai
Government Description : Think of Charles Dark Eagle as a Native American Pinochet: nationalist,and ruthless with his enemies. This is mirrored by the whole government. They are wary of outsiders, and while citizens are afforded a decent amount of social freedom, rebellion against the Federation's ideology is treated as treason.

Majority/State Religion : Tradition of The Land Spirits
Religious Description : The Tradition of The Land spirits is a state religion, adapted from Blackfoot tribal religion. It's main belief is that there are spirits in the Land, Air, and Water that are the ancestors of humanity. These spirits are satisfied by rituals performed yearly on the summer solstice (The Day of the High Sun). This day involves a 24 hour fast in which all the food that would be eaten in that time is buried for the spirits. All landowners are required to participate in this ritual. This religion also is used as propaganda for the Federation's nationalist nature.

Economic Ideologies : 50% geolibertarianism, 50% fascistic control economy.
Major Production : Agriculutre, fishing, mining, weapons manufacturing.
Economic Description : Agriculture, fishing, and hunting are under control of the government. Considered necessary for survival, these industries plus the healthcare industry are held publicly. In contrast, private business is allowed in all other industries, including mining, manufacturing, and service industries. There is no income tax, but, as in the concept of geolibertarianism, the government makes its money by charging fees for using natural resources.

Army Strength : Strong cavalry and infantry. Much more technologically advanced than the RL Natives were due to foreign military aid. All able bodied men over the age of 14 are members of the always standing army, and usually carry weapons even while doing their civilian jobs.
Army Weakness : The Federation's low population compared to its size makes its territory difficult to defend. In addition, while weapons manufacturing is becoming a legitimate industry, there is very little in terms of steel mining in the Federation, making the cost of building weapons much more expensive.
Naval Strength : Carried on from a long tradition of sea-faring among the tribes situated in the Pacific Northwest, the navy is small but proud.
Naval Weakness : Considering that it is 1870, the Federation has not gotten to the point of developing iron-clad ships. Also, the navy is not experienced in long sailing expeditions has the Federation has no overseas interests, so they are effectively more of a coast guard than a navy.
Further Military Description : The Army, battle-tested and requiring compulsory service, is dangerously good at what they do. Known for their swift cavalry, their form of guerilla warfare is swift and devastating, with a specialtiy of burning enemy cities to the ground. On the other hand, their navy is pretty terrible at attacking, but they do a good job defending Puget Sound and the coasts.

National Goals : keep up with European technology, reclaim "holy lands" to the north, continue to fight off those who want their land
National issues: what to do after the death of their leader, as he is getting old. Maintaining sovreignty from other countries interested in their resources. Rehabilitating bison herds and expanding agriculture.
National Figures of Interest : Charles Dark Eagle- current Grand Chief (president/dictator) war hero who was reknowned for his bravery in the siege of Victoria, the Battle of Bear Mountain (RL Glacier National Park), and leader of the retaliation against the British in the Puyallup Massacre. A charismatic, forward-thinking leader, he used his outstanding diplomatic abilities to create powerful alliances in Europe, that lead to centuries worth of technological progress for the Salish happening over the course of three decades.
David Standsalone: President of The Yellowstone Company, a mining, oil, and manufacturing conglomerate. Has the ear of Dark Eagle any time he wants
National Ambition/Aspirations : Protect all lands holy to their religion, and remain united as there are many tribes and cultures represented in their nation.

History :
History until 1804 is the same.
In 1804, Merriweather Lewis and William Clark's westward expedition fails, slowing American westward expansion. Over the next eight years, encounters between Americans and Natives across North America become increasingly violent.
The War of 1812 between the British (Cambria?) and the Americans begins. The British arm the Blackfoot, Sioux, Flathead, Ute, Comanche and Shoshone tribes in an attempt to prevent the USA (URA?) from expanding into Britains claimed Columbia and Oregon territories. While the War of 1812 ends as it did in real life, Britain continues to arm the Natives as a barrier between their territory and the Americans. It was during this time that many Natives learned the English language.
Peaceful relations between the Natives and the British turn sour in 1841 when the British attempt to relocate a band of Salish from the Puyallup, Washington area and take their weapons. In what is known as the Puyallup Massacre, 500 Salish people were slaughtered by British forces, leading to a retaliation in which several tribes burned down a British fort near Boise, Idaho.
This marked the beginning of what would come to be known as the Second French and Indian War. The reason for its name, is because tribal elders from the Blackfoot tribe made contact with French fur traders who managed to get the word to the French monarchy that they were willing to trade massive gold reserves located near RL Bannock, MT for mercenaries and weapons during the war. This diplomatic negotiation lead to the League of Tribes, a precursor to the eventual Federation.
While the war was going very poorly for the Natives at first, the tides turned once they received weapons and reinforcements from the French. Under the training of some of France's best military officers, The Natives became skilled in modernized warfare, and picked up some European culture along the way. The first major victory of the war was when all 15 tribes of the league and the French put the city and fort of Victoria, BC under siege. The siege lasted 65 days, and lead to an eventual cease-fire. The line of demarcation was the 49th parallel, and no troops were allowed to cross it. The British broke these terms 5 months later, when a lost group of British soldiers fired upon Blackfoot Indians near Logan Pass in RL Glacier National Park. A major battle ensued with large casualties on both sides. The Treaty of Kalispel was signed by the British, offering the Natives all land south of the 49th Parallel, on the condition that the French military left and the land was never traded to the French. This happened in1945.
During the wartime, the Natives established their first cities out of the necessity of protecting women and children. This slowly brought their nomadic lifestyle to a close. The next 30 years have been relatively peaceful. A government to oversee all the tribes was founded by the Salish-Kootenai and Blackfoot tribes in late 1845, and three years later, all of the tribes within current territory signed the agreement to join. They gave the Federation its current name, The Federation of Northern Native Tribes, but their first name, the Blackfoot-Salish Federation stuck, especially with Europeans. War hero Charles Dark Eagle was chosen as the Grand Chief, the nations highest office, to serve until death.
The remaining time until 1870 has been spent trading with European and American nations and developing technologically. At some point in this time, they signed the Mason-Dixon treaty, preventing other North American nations from expanding into their territory.
Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 4
Comparison Points – Economy : 2
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used: 10/10
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The Orson Empire wrote:Is my app accepted?

It's night time for Trace right now, I think. He'll get to it in a few hours, I think. :)
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