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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:30 pm

Vaquas wrote:I was thinking that we'd have a mock election on election day RP-wise.

We each vote for the candidate we'd vote for IRL.

I expect a Reed blowout, but who knows.

I would vote for none of the candidates, I do not like any of the RP characters, and would never vote for them.

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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:I was thinking that we'd have a mock election on election day RP-wise.

We each vote for the candidate we'd vote for IRL.

I expect a Reed blowout, but who knows.

I would vote for none of the candidates, I do not like any of the RP characters, and would never vote for them.

Same.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:35 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:I was thinking that we'd have a mock election on election day RP-wise.

We each vote for the candidate we'd vote for IRL.

I expect a Reed blowout, but who knows.

I would vote for none of the candidates, I do not like any of the RP characters, and would never vote for them.

If I had to choose, I'd probably vote for Reed

But what's wrong with Reed that you wouldn't like to not vote for him?
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:48 pm

If Carrolton had been the nominee instead of Danders, and Danders wouldn't have been on the ticket, I may hesitate in the voting booth. Reed and Carrolton both seem like good people. Havich is nice too. I'd probably have trouble just because of Reed's lack of political experience and some of his foreign policy. It'd be a tough one. It may come down to who Carrolton's VP was.

In this scenario though, Reed/Havitch, no question. Because fuck Danders. And I'm most definitely not a "Progressive".
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:52 pm

Vaquas wrote:If Carrolton had been the nominee instead of Danders, and Danders wouldn't have been on the ticket, I may hesitate in the voting booth. Reed and Carrolton both seem like good people. Havich is nice too. I'd probably have trouble just because of Reed's lack of political experience and some of his foreign policy. It'd be a tough one. It may come down to who Carrolton's VP was.

In this scenario though, Reed/Havitch, no question. Because fuck Danders. And I'm most definitely not a "Progressive".

Has Havitch ever even been active? At all?
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:52 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Vaquas wrote:If Carrolton had been the nominee instead of Danders, and Danders wouldn't have been on the ticket, I may hesitate in the voting booth. Reed and Carrolton both seem like good people. Havich is nice too. I'd probably have trouble just because of Reed's lack of political experience and some of his foreign policy. It'd be a tough one. It may come down to who Carrolton's VP was.

In this scenario though, Reed/Havitch, no question. Because fuck Danders. And I'm most definitely not a "Progressive".

Has Havitch ever even been active? At all?


Yeah.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:54 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Has Havitch ever even been active? At all?


Yeah.

When? I've never seen anything by him
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:55 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
Yeah.

When? I've never seen anything by him


He's voted.
And he's Reed's VP.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:56 pm

Vaquas wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:When? I've never seen anything by him


He's voted.
And he's Reed's VP.

I know that, but I've never seen anything about him after the RNC
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:15 pm

TNS, when shall we have the Oregon and California primaries? Only Breck, Longwood, and Paulson can participate in it because of how their primaries work, so you dont have to enter Flores immediately yet.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:20 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:TNS, when shall we have the Oregon and California primaries? Only Breck, Longwood, and Paulson can participate in it because of how their primaries work, so you dont have to enter Flores immediately yet.


The primaries will likely be held after the debate, though there is nothing keeping the other candidates out of attendance.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:23 pm

Prolieum wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:TNS, when shall we have the Oregon and California primaries? Only Breck, Longwood, and Paulson can participate in it because of how their primaries work, so you dont have to enter Flores immediately yet.


The primaries will likely be held after the debate, though there is nothing keeping the other candidates out of attendance.

If you're referring to the primaries, the way they work is that the state Libertarian parties send their members ballots in the mail, well in advance, to vote. The members then check off the boxes and send them back. There would be no time for DeLucca or Flores to be on that ballot

Also, if we were to do the debate anytime this week, it would have to be either at 3:30 to 5:30, or 9 at night.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:26 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:TNS, when shall we have the Oregon and California primaries? Only Breck, Longwood, and Paulson can participate in it because of how their primaries work, so you dont have to enter Flores immediately yet.


The primaries will likely be held after the debate, though there is nothing keeping the other candidates out of attendance.

Hey Proliem, could you maybe add Vicky to the front page?
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:26 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
The primaries will likely be held after the debate, though there is nothing keeping the other candidates out of attendance.

If you're referring to the primaries, the way they work is that the state Libertarian parties send their members ballots in the mail, well in advance, to vote. The members then check off the boxes and send them back. There would be no time for DeLucca or Flores to be on that ballot

Also, if we were to do the debate anytime this week, it would have to be either at 3:30 to 5:30, or 9 at night.


The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way. Oregon additionally allows write-in candidates. Neither state would bar DeLucca or Flores from votes.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Prolieum wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:If you're referring to the primaries, the way they work is that the state Libertarian parties send their members ballots in the mail, well in advance, to vote. The members then check off the boxes and send them back. There would be no time for DeLucca or Flores to be on that ballot

Also, if we were to do the debate anytime this week, it would have to be either at 3:30 to 5:30, or 9 at night.


The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way.

Wait, Cali isn't mail order?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Prolieum wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:If you're referring to the primaries, the way they work is that the state Libertarian parties send their members ballots in the mail, well in advance, to vote. The members then check off the boxes and send them back. There would be no time for DeLucca or Flores to be on that ballot

Also, if we were to do the debate anytime this week, it would have to be either at 3:30 to 5:30, or 9 at night.


The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way.

Oh. Would there still be any time to put them on the ballot though? It takes time to do that
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:30 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way.

Oh. Would there still be any time to put them on the ballot though? It takes time to do that


Given the already nebulous date and delay of the primaries, there is no reason to assume that they cannot.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:30 pm

Uttland wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way.

Wait, Cali isn't mail order?


No, it is not, it is a direct-vote primary.
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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Nothing until Spring Break in March/April.

Fuck. You in a private school or something?

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It actually seems that all Libertarian candidates that would debate are online at the moment. We could, perhaps, hold it now.
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Prolieum wrote:
The Oregon primary is a mail-in primary. California does not operate that way.

Oh. Would there still be any time to put them on the ballot though? It takes time to do that

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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:31 pm

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Uttland wrote:Wait, Cali isn't mail order?


No, it is not, it is a direct-vote primary.

*Vicky furiously packs for California*

What about Arizona or New York? Do you happen to know that, Pro?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:31 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Oh. Would there still be any time to put them on the ballot though? It takes time to do that


Given the already nebulous date and delay of the primaries, there is no reason to assume that they cannot.

But also given on how late they are and presumably the primary being in a week, that's a bit too fast
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:31 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:Oh. Would there still be any time to put them on the ballot though? It takes time to do that

Write-in

I was about to mention that.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:32 pm

Uttland wrote:
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No, it is not, it is a direct-vote primary.

*Vicky furiously packs for California*

What about Arizona or New York? Do you happen to know that, Pro?

No primaries there
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16 year old Monarchist from Rhode Island. Interested in economics, governance, metaphysical philosophy, European + Near Eastern history, vexillology, faith, hunting, automotive, ranching, science fiction, music, and anime.

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