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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:02 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.

That's my 2020 plan. Too late to run now.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:07 am

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Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.


Flores should make a last ditch effort at the Lib nomination.

Nope. Too young.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:43 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.

How so? From what you've seen in the interview, she pretty much has the same views as Breck.
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:45 am

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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:49 am

The Portland Territory wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.

How so? From what you've seen in the interview, she pretty much has the same views as Breck.

I mean, she may be hiding her real views for that candidacy...
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:49 am

Vaquas wrote:Honk if u luv the Public Option

HONK!
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:05 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.

How so? From what you've seen in the interview, she pretty much has the same views as Breck.


Record, positioning, etc.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:06 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:I'm surprised Vicky isn't actually going for President. She'd have a better shot at it.


Flores should make a last ditch effort at the Lib nomination.


Oh, she is.

She's going to take full advantage of the silly ballot system in Oregon to upend the thing.

Combine that with Caki name rec and local appeal, and she'll have some fun...
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:06 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
Flores should make a last ditch effort at the Lib nomination.


Oh, she is

She can't. She's 29. She'll bring down the party.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:06 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:How so? From what you've seen in the interview, she pretty much has the same views as Breck.


Record, positioning, etc.

Also, 2020.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:09 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Oh, she is

She can't. She's 29. She'll bring down the party.


She can get the nomination-she just can't be elected without an amendment
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:09 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:She can't. She's 29. She'll bring down the party.


She can get the nomination-she just can't be elected without an amendment

She'll drive down party turnout with her age and how informal she is.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:13 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
She can get the nomination-she just can't be elected without an amendment

She'll drive down party turnout with her age and how informal she is.


Why would a firebrand drive down turnout?

Unless you mean the "establishment" Libertarians, all three of them.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:14 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:She'll drive down party turnout with her age and how informal she is.


Why would a firebrand drive down turnout?

Unless you mean the "establishment" Libertarians, all three of them.

As in, her candidacy will be seen as a joke, and she won't be taken seriously. If Flores enters the race, then expect DeLucca to jump in there, earnings off.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:17 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Why would a firebrand drive down turnout?

Unless you mean the "establishment" Libertarians, all three of them.

As in, her candidacy will be seen as a joke, and she won't be taken seriously. If Flores enters the race, then expect DeLucca to jump in there, earnings off.


They're Libertarians. They're never taken seriously. Especially not after Breck decided to own SL's stuff.

The bigger problem in perception isn't looking not serious, it is looking too extreme, that's the real weakness. It's also their only shot at getting some coverage and publicity
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:18 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:As in, her candidacy will be seen as a joke, and she won't be taken seriously. If Flores enters the race, then expect DeLucca to jump in there, earnings off.


They're Libertarians. They're never taken seriously. Especially not after Breck decided to own SL's stuff.

The bigger problem in perception isn't looking not serious, it is looking too extreme, that's the real weakness. It's also their only shot at getting some coverage and publicity

The goal should be to look serious. A informal, young, ranter is a bad idea.

There are other ways to get coverage.

Either way, if Flores enters, DeLucca will enter the race with the plan to kick Flores out of the race.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:20 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
They're Libertarians. They're never taken seriously. Especially not after Breck decided to own SL's stuff.

The bigger problem in perception isn't looking not serious, it is looking too extreme, that's the real weakness. It's also their only shot at getting some coverage and publicity

The goal should be to look serious. A informal, young, ranter is a bad idea.

There are other ways to get coverage.

Either way, if Flores enters, DeLucca will enter the race with the plan to kick Flores out of the race.


If they look serious, no one will care. The Constitution Party was very serious this year. No one noticed.

Well, should be fun to see DeLucca in then.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:20 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:The goal should be to look serious. A informal, young, ranter is a bad idea.

There are other ways to get coverage.

Either way, if Flores enters, DeLucca will enter the race with the plan to kick Flores out of the race.

Heh?
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:22 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:

Heh?


Phone is spazzy, posted before I typed. See above
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:23 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:The goal should be to look serious. A informal, young, ranter is a bad idea.

There are other ways to get coverage.

Either way, if Flores enters, DeLucca will enter the race with the plan to kick Flores out of the race.


If they look serious, no one will care. The Constitution Party was very serious this year. No one noticed.

Well, should be fun to see DeLucca in then.

Buut if they're not serious, they won't be taken as such. Flores is the opposite of what the Libertarians need.

But, if Flores is in, then Vicky is in.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:25 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
If they look serious, no one will care. The Constitution Party was very serious this year. No one noticed.

Well, should be fun to see DeLucca in then.

Buut if they're not serious, they won't be taken as such. Flores is the opposite of what the Libertarians need.

But, if Flores is in, then Vicky is in.


Better to be not serious and actually noticed than serious without anyone even knowing it.
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:27 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
If they look serious, no one will care. The Constitution Party was very serious this year. No one noticed.

Well, should be fun to see DeLucca in then.

Buut if they're not serious, they won't be taken as such. Flores is the opposite of what the Libertarians need.

But, if Flores is in, then Vicky is in.


I think Flores is exactly what they need.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:28 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Uttland wrote:Buut if they're not serious, they won't be taken as such. Flores is the opposite of what the Libertarians need.

But, if Flores is in, then Vicky is in.


Better to be not serious and actually noticed than serious without anyone even knowing it.

I disagree, but whatever, I'm entering this race.
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Postby Uttland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:29 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Uttland wrote:Buut if they're not serious, they won't be taken as such. Flores is the opposite of what the Libertarians need.

But, if Flores is in, then Vicky is in.


I think Flores is exactly what they need.

I would have to disagree.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:31 pm

We were scheduled for one more Libertarian debate anyway, now we can actually have one, that's nice.
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