BLITZKRIEG: A World After the Blitz [OOC/AH/OPEN]

[Democratic East-Asia]

You wouldn't get away easy. You'd be pretty easy to take after a war with Japan, actually. It'd be like the USSR and China fighting in RL, but even more evenly matched. Your nukes will only get you so far, since America and allies' nukes far outnumber yours, Japan or no Japan. Japan wouldn't be in any position of diplomatic power after such a conflict either, though.

I wouldn't use more than 100 on Japan at a maximum. That leaves roughly 900-1000 as of now. Still more than enough to bomb you and most of Western Europe out of existence. You make a move and we turn Stockholm and Helsinki into craters.

Also, the USSR was never really a naval power. Submarines ftw.

[Khasinkonia]

You wouldn't get away easy. You'd be pretty easy to take after a war with Japan, actually. It'd be like the USSR and China fighting in RL, but even more evenly matched. Your nukes will only get you so far, since America and allies' nukes far outnumber yours, Japan or no Japan. Japan wouldn't be in any position of diplomatic power after such a conflict either, though.

I wouldn't use more than 100 on Japan at a maximum. That leaves roughly 900-1000 as of now. Still more than enough to bomb you and most of Western Europe out of existence. You make a move and we turn Stockholm and Helsinki into craters.

Also, the USSR was never really a naval power. Submarines ftw.

Stockholm is highly unlikely. Nuclear bombs are still delivered by plane. The farthest you'd likely get is Helsinki.

[Tracian Empire]

You wouldn't get away easy. You'd be pretty easy to take after a war with Japan, actually. It'd be like the USSR and China fighting in RL, but even more evenly matched. Your nukes will only get you so far, since America and allies' nukes far outnumber yours, Japan or no Japan. Japan wouldn't be in any position of diplomatic power after such a conflict either, though.

I wouldn't use more than 100 on Japan at a maximum. That leaves roughly 900-1000 as of now. Still more than enough to bomb you and most of Western Europe out of existence. You make a move and we turn Stockholm and Helsinki into craters.

Also, the USSR was never really a naval power. Submarines ftw.

And then you're also turned into craters yourself, end of roleplay.

[Democratic East-Asia]

And then you're also turned into craters yourself, end of roleplay.

The USSR is a very large country. Unless the US intervenes, I should be able to pull off a nuclear fight with Japan relatively easily.

Also, Stockholm is within range of Soviet bombers. The Tu-16 for example has a range of 7200 km. You know what, so do the US planes... oh well.

[Tracian Empire]

And then you're also turned into craters yourself, end of roleplay.

The USSR is a very large country. Unless the US intervenes, I should be able to pull off a nuclear fight with Japan relatively easily.

But if the US intervenes, regardless of your status as a large country, your main cities will probably not exist anymore.

And it's true, nuclear bombs are still very much delivered by plane. You need to have air supremacy before being able to actually use them, and in the case of a conflict with everyone else, your chances aren't that good.

[Democratic East-Asia]

But if the US intervenes, regardless of your status as a large country, your main cities will probably not exist anymore.

And it's true, nuclear bombs are still very much delivered by plane. You need to have air supremacy before being able to actually use them, and in the case of a conflict with everyone else, your chances aren't that good.

If the attack is sudden and immediate, the proximity of Soviet airbases should allow us to use whatever large force of Migs we have. I doubt some small European nations even have large and modern air forces.

I'm not aiming for a nuclear war with Europe though, as that would bring a lot of unintended consequences to the USSR.

[Tracian Empire]

But if the US intervenes, regardless of your status as a large country, your main cities will probably not exist anymore.

And it's true, nuclear bombs are still very much delivered by plane. You need to have air supremacy before being able to actually use them, and in the case of a conflict with everyone else, your chances aren't that good.

If the attack is sudden and immediate, the proximity of Soviet airbases should allow us to use whatever large force of Migs we have. I doubt some small European nations even have large and modern air forces.

However, some of those nations, like Italy, do have relatively well sized and modern air forces, and they are packed with American military bases. Which kinda nullifies your advantage. And at the first nuclear bomb exploding on your territory, Eastern Europe will explode into riots, rebellions, and anarchy.

[Khasinkonia]

But if the US intervenes, regardless of your status as a large country, your main cities will probably not exist anymore.

And it's true, nuclear bombs are still very much delivered by plane. You need to have air supremacy before being able to actually use them, and in the case of a conflict with everyone else, your chances aren't that good.

If the attack is sudden and immediate, the proximity of Soviet airbases should allow us to use whatever large force of Migs we have. I doubt some small European nations even have large and modern air forces.

You really underestimate the extent of bases in Germany, in particular. Your airbases may be able to near Germany, but even I can trash your European navy, which you'll need if you want to get far past outer Finland. And that's assuming America doesn't immediately rip your liver out.

And then you're also turned into craters yourself, end of roleplay.

The USSR is a very large country. Unless the US intervenes, I should be able to pull off a nuclear fight with Japan relatively easily.

And then you'd instantly be basically useless as a nation, since, unlike other nations, much of Russia(The thing holding your unholy conglomerate together) is marvellously unsuited to hosting much human life at all, much less a superpower. European Russia is really all you have, since I guarantee many, if not all, of your border regions would try to escape your grasp at the first opportunity.

[Democratic East-Asia]

You really underestimate the extent of bases in Germany, in particular. Your airbases may be able to near Germany, but even I can trash your European navy, which you'll need if you want to get far past outer Finland. And that's assuming America doesn't immediately rip your liver out.

And then you'd instantly be basically useless as a nation, since, unlike other nations, much of Russia(The thing holding your unholy conglomerate together) is marvellously unsuited to hosting much human life at all, much less a superpower. European Russia is really all you have, since I guarantee many, if not all, of your border regions would try to escape your grasp at the first opportunity.

Why would I need a navy to bomb your cities? I have a far larger airforce, and could easily just swarm your defenses with numbers.

The Eastern Europe question is something though. I'd better wait a few decades for societal reengineering to come into play.

Also, don't just assume the US is all powerful. This is a Soviet Union not devastated by years of war and Stalin. The RL US didn't mess with the Soviet Union directly. On another hand, I'm a bit tempted to go all out hardliner with the USSR.

[Khasinkonia]

You really underestimate the extent of bases in Germany, in particular. Your airbases may be able to near Germany, but even I can trash your European navy, which you'll need if you want to get far past outer Finland. And that's assuming America doesn't immediately rip your liver out.

And then you'd instantly be basically useless as a nation, since, unlike other nations, much of Russia(The thing holding your unholy conglomerate together) is marvellously unsuited to hosting much human life at all, much less a superpower. European Russia is really all you have, since I guarantee many, if not all, of your border regions would try to escape your grasp at the first opportunity.

Why would I need a navy to bomb your cities? I have a far larger airforce, and could easily just swarm your defenses with numbers.

The Eastern Europe question is something though. I'd better wait a few decades for societal reengineering to come into play.

Also, don't just assume the US is all powerful. This is a Soviet Union not devastated by years of war and Stalin. The RL US didn't mess with the Soviet Union directly.

I can virtually guarantee you that the Soviet Union, regardless, will not win a conflict in the end. You may leave a lasting mark in the form of smouldering remains in Finland and Poland, but that would only make it less morally questionable for the remaining Europeans to rip your Union to shreds and marginalise the Russian people in favour of the Ukrainians, Poles, and other people underneath the Russians at the moment. I, for one, know what the Danes and Norwegians, who would be mostly unharmed by any Soviet attack, would take every last metre and cent possible from the smouldering remains of the Soviet Union without hesitation. I'm sure Japan, Germany, Turkey, and America would do exactly the same.

[Tracian Empire]

You really underestimate the extent of bases in Germany, in particular. Your airbases may be able to near Germany, but even I can trash your European navy, which you'll need if you want to get far past outer Finland. And that's assuming America doesn't immediately rip your liver out.

And then you'd instantly be basically useless as a nation, since, unlike other nations, much of Russia(The thing holding your unholy conglomerate together) is marvellously unsuited to hosting much human life at all, much less a superpower. European Russia is really all you have, since I guarantee many, if not all, of your border regions would try to escape your grasp at the first opportunity.

Why would I need a navy to bomb your cities? I have a far larger airforce, and could easily just swarm your defenses with numbers.

The Eastern Europe question is something though. I'd better wait a few decades for societal reengineering to come into play.

Also, don't just assume the US is all powerful. This is a Soviet Union not devastated by years of war and Stalin. The RL US didn't mess with the Soviet Union directly. On another hand, I'm a bit tempted to go all out hardliner with the USSR.

And yet, your numbers aren't enough to swarm the defenses of all your neighbors and also fight Japan and the US.

And Eastern Europe is going to be a big problem, since you directly annexed big parts of it, it would be in a constant near open rebellion at least until the 60's.

[Democratic East-Asia]

I can virtually guarantee you that the Soviet Union, regardless, will not win a conflict in the end. You may leave a lasting mark in the form of smouldering remains in Finland and Poland, but that would only make it less morally questionable for the remaining Europeans to rip your Union to shreds and marginalise the Russian people in favour of the Ukrainians, Poles, and other people underneath the Russians at the moment. I, for one, know what the Danes and Norwegians, who would be mostly unharmed by any Soviet attack, would take every last metre and cent possible from the smouldering remains of the Soviet Union without hesitation. I'm sure Japan, Germany, Turkey, and America would do exactly the same.

You assume Norway and Sweden wouldn't be smashed to a pulp. I'd make sure to do that as well. The USSR has the bomber range and nuclear stockpile to shred your nation and most of Western Europe. Germany would be the first to die, just saying. They don't really have a military and I'm not giving any mercy in the case total war breaks out.

In the meantime, I will be peacefully building up my nuclear stockpile till it reaches acceptable levels. And funding communists in China and SEA.

[Tracian Empire]

I can virtually guarantee you that the Soviet Union, regardless, will not win a conflict in the end. You may leave a lasting mark in the form of smouldering remains in Finland and Poland, but that would only make it less morally questionable for the remaining Europeans to rip your Union to shreds and marginalise the Russian people in favour of the Ukrainians, Poles, and other people underneath the Russians at the moment. I, for one, know what the Danes and Norwegians, who would be mostly unharmed by any Soviet attack, would take every last metre and cent possible from the smouldering remains of the Soviet Union without hesitation. I'm sure Japan, Germany, Turkey, and America would do exactly the same.

You assume Norway and Sweden wouldn't be smashed to a pulp. I'd make sure to do that as well. The USSR has the bomber range and nuclear stockpile to shred your nation and most of Western Europe. Germany would be the first to die, just saying. They don't really have a military and I'm not giving any mercy in the case total war breaks out.

In the meantime, I will be peacefully building up my nuclear stockpile till it reaches acceptable levels. And funding communists in China and SEA.

And you'll also die, while the US and parts of Japan will be okay.

[Democratic East-Asia]

And you'll also die, while the US and parts of Japan will be okay.

Japan will die, but yes, the US would probably be alright. Better wait until ICBMs and submarine launched missiles are a thing to get them. A war against the USSR would be long, and we'd lose, I openly admit, but definitely take a few hundred million people with us.

[Khasinkonia]

You assume Norway and Sweden wouldn't be smashed to a pulp. I'd make sure to do that as well. The USSR has the bomber range and nuclear stockpile to shred your nation and most of Western Europe. Germany would be the first to die, just saying. They don't really have a military and I'm not giving any mercy in the case total war breaks out.

In the meantime, I will be peacefully building up my nuclear stockpile till it reaches acceptable levels. And funding communists in China and SEA.

And you'll also die, while the US and parts of Japan will be okay.

Denmark, Greenland, and Iceland are fairly safe as well, and no matter what, the USSR will never really have enough manpower to beat back NATO, which has Russia vastly outnumbered in manpower and sheer military strength. Russia may go out with a bang, but their people will forever curse the Soviet name if we went to war.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Well, at least Newne isn't the USSR.

[The Valyria Empire]

"Alright guys, shake your dicks. Pissing contest is over."

Sheesh, I always forget how these nation RPs get plagued with this kind of discussion.

[Khasinkonia]

"Alright guys, shake your dicks. Pissing contest is over."

Sheesh, I always forget how these nation RPs get plagued with this kind of discussion.

I'm just trying to keep Europe from getting force-fed communism.

Well, at least Newne isn't the USSR.

Then the entire world, save for Iceland, Greenland, New Zealand, northern Canada, and a few other territories would be completely destroyed.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Then the entire world, save for Iceland, Greenland, New Zealand, northern Canada, and a few other territories would be completely destroyed.

If this were the 80s even that wouldn't be the case. I'd imagine some self-obsessed maniac would probably then get the USSR to destroy itself through a nuclear civil war, before nuking everyone else.

[The V O I D]

And you'll also die, while the US and parts of Japan will be okay.

Japan will die, but yes, the US would probably be alright. Better wait until ICBMs and submarine launched missiles are a thing to get them. A war against the USSR would be long, and we'd lose, I openly admit, but definitely take a few hundred million people with us.

Unlikely. DEA, you're either EXTREMELY OVERESTIMATING your own strength, even as a superpower, or severely underestimating how fucked you'd be if two superpowers, plus all of Europe, invaded you and attacked you all at once.

Calm yourself and cease trying to find ways to borderline godmod, or I will intervene as OP.

[Nancivania]

"Alright guys, shake your dicks. Pissing contest is over."

Why is this so funny to me? xD

Edit: Because I'm a immature little twat, that's why...

[Democratic East-Asia]

Unlikely. DEA, you're either EXTREMELY OVERESTIMATING your own strength, even as a superpower, or severely underestimating how fucked you'd be if two superpowers, plus all of Europe, invaded you and attacked you all at once.

Calm yourself and cease trying to find ways to borderline godmod, or I will intervene as OP.

You seem that Japan would be very strong. It wouldn't. Most of its territories are incredibly poor and will take decades to bring up to standards, not to mention that places like China wouldn't cease resisting for years. Your troops would be tied up constantly having to control a far larger and rather unhappy mainland population. Infrastructure is and will remain quite poor in rural regions for the foreseeable future, so don't expect education in Japanese to reach too many. If I'm having issues with Eastern Europe you're having a hell lot more in Asia. That region has never been particularly stable in the 20th century.

Historically Imperial Japan was rather behind when it came to technical advancements when compared to the allies and Germans. Their nuclear program never got off the floor, and missile technology was a long shot. Nothing's going to really change (your POD is quite slight). Sure Japan might be richer (Japan itself), but the post-war 70s boom isn't going to happen.

I haven't done anything IC wise yet that would be considered god-modding.

[The V O I D]

Unlikely. DEA, you're either EXTREMELY OVERESTIMATING your own strength, even as a superpower, or severely underestimating how fucked you'd be if two superpowers, plus all of Europe, invaded you and attacked you all at once.

Calm yourself and cease trying to find ways to borderline godmod, or I will intervene as OP.

You seem that Japan would be very strong. It wouldn't. Most of its territories are incredibly poor and will take decades to bring up to standards, not to mention that places like China wouldn't cease resisting for years. Your troops would be tied up constantly having to fight a far larger and rather unhappy mainland population. Infrastructure is and will remain quite poor in rural regions for the foreseeable future, so don't expect education in Japanese to reach too many. If I'm having issues with Eastern Europe you're having a hell lot more in Asia.

Historically Imperial Japan was rather behind when it came to technical advancements when compared to the allies and Germans. Their nuclear program never got off the floor, and missile technology was a long shot. Nothing's going to really change (your POD is quite slight). Sure Japan might be richer (Japan itself), but the post-war 70s boom isn't going to happen.

I haven't done anything IC wise yet that would be considered god-modding.

You, as a superpower, face pretty much the same issues as I do. And while I think it's cool you're enthusiastic about this RP, that's no excuse to plot to godmod or plot to somehow otherwise win in a war against literally everyone. It just isn't going to end that way, DEA.

And, while yes, Imperial Japan does face numerous issues, economics isn't one of them - we own lots of resources and valuable trade stuffs from southeast Asia and Indonesia, which we trade with friendly nations as well as non-communist ones (e.g. the US). That's not to mention the fact that you seem to be metagaming a bit here and applying OOC, IRL knowledge to my IC nation in this alternative timeline, which some of which may not necessarily apply.

Please, let's just drop this now, okay? I'm not going to fight about this. My ruling is final: the USSR is not strong enough to win against the entire world in a war. It just isn't. That goes for the US and Japan as well.

[Democratic East-Asia]

-snip-

I acknowledged that the USSR would ultimately lose a possible WW3 if alone. Everything factors against me in that case, but I won't be getting there anytime soon.

On another note, I will continue to help out the Chinese communists. They were originally well prepared (not exactly well armed but we compensate), and will do their jobs.

[The V O I D]

-snip-

I acknowledged that the USSR would ultimately lose a possible WW3 if alone. Everything factors against me in that case, but I won't be getting there anytime soon.

On another note, I will continue to help out the Chinese communists. They were originally well prepared (not exactly well armed but we compensate), and will do their jobs.

I mean, depending on if Tibet ends up communist, either most of the Chinese communists left to be part of the Chinese SSR or Communist Tibet, or if Tibet isn't communist, any communists remaining in China are basically forced to flee to the USSR, because Imperial Japanese propaganda the last 10 years has convinced much of the populace to fear and hate communists almost as much as they hate being run by Japan. Chinese Nationalists are the real issue for Japan, at this point; communists are unlikely to be able to do much.

So any major communist attack and such will likely be perceived as an attack influenced or perpetrated with USSR backing (which is probably true, by the way you're plotting). You'd be better off somehow arming the Chinese nationalists without them realizing who is arming them... but then we have a completely independent Nationalist China that is both anti-commie and anti-Japan on our hands, right between us, and that isn't too good.