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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:37 pm

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I don't mean stop using them, I mean limit their use and don't use them often (from my POV, OP may see differently). You could invent an IC reason to explain such a change as well. Also, at least refrain from using new unrealistic spells in the future.

There's actually a pretty simple IC solution, at least from my point of view:

Have the Headmaster make a rule stating that "Due to the recent usage of advanced, and potentially dangerous spells by some students in lower grades, it has become necessary to monitor and control the spellwork of the lower grades to a greater extent than we have previously. I hope that the students who have contributed to this decision understand the necessity of this new rule.

And it'd be followed like all Hogwarts rules are (not at all.) Gleen would help students break it liberally, families would write complaints accusing the school of deliberately weakening their children.
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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:42 pm

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_S ... s,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books
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Postby Dernland » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:43 pm

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Khasinkonia wrote:There's actually a pretty simple IC solution, at least from my point of view:

Have the Headmaster make a rule stating that "Due to the recent usage of advanced, and potentially dangerous spells by some students in lower grades, it has become necessary to monitor and control the spellwork of the lower grades to a greater extent than we have previously. I hope that the students who have contributed to this decision understand the necessity of this new rule.

And it'd be followed like all Hogwarts rules are (not at all.) Gleen would help students break it liberally, families would write complaints accusing the school of deliberately weakening their children.


Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:44 pm

New Roman Empire wrote:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_Standard_Book_of_Spells,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books

Not allspells are in that text book, hense why their's a lot of other text books and a big library.
Seriously, just drop it.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:46 pm

CoraSpia wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:There's actually a pretty simple IC solution, at least from my point of view:

Have the Headmaster make a rule stating that "Due to the recent usage of advanced, and potentially dangerous spells by some students in lower grades, it has become necessary to monitor and control the spellwork of the lower grades to a greater extent than we have previously. I hope that the students who have contributed to this decision understand the necessity of this new rule.

And it'd be followed like all Hogwarts rules are (not at all.) Gleen would help students break it liberally, families would write complaints accusing the school of deliberately weakening their children.

This is probably why the ministry has a love-hate relationship with Hogwarts. The students do everything but completely destroy the school. I think the only reason they won't abandon it for a public system is because Hogwarts is just too good at teaching children, for better or worse.

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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:47 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:And it'd be followed like all Hogwarts rules are (not at all.) Gleen would help students break it liberally, families would write complaints accusing the school of deliberately weakening their children.


Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

OK. Then we have the arc where a number of wizards challenge the minister of magic over that ruling. Because that's what'd happen, even as I have gleen work out new and exciting ways of getting around it.

Also, I'm going to say now that any restriction of spells fundamentally breaks one of the primary facts about Gleen, namely that he creates new spells regularly and teaches them to students.
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Postby Dernland » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:51 pm

CoraSpia wrote:OK. Then we have the arc where a number of wizards challenge the minister of magic over that ruling. Because that's what'd happen, even as I have gleen work out new and exciting ways of getting around it.

Also, I'm going to say now that any restriction of spells fundamentally breaks one of the primary facts about Gleen, namely that he creates new spells regularly and teaches them to students.


I could see it becoming a plot point yes, but it would actually make sense seeing as the world has still only barely recovered from the Second wizarding war (which was, if I'm not mistaken, one of the bloodiest wars fought among wizards), so such a ruling would garner a lot of support from those affected by the war and the use of dark magic.

Had planned for my character to push a ruling like this, but extended to all wizards. You wouldn't be able to cast a single curse form the field of dark magic without them knowing (Hexes, curses).

Gleen may object, but the objection of one IC character doesn't mean that we omit things for their convenience.
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Postby True Christopia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:55 pm

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Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

OK. Then we have the arc where a number of wizards challenge the minister of magic over that ruling. Because that's what'd happen, even as I have gleen work out new and exciting ways of getting around it.

Also, I'm going to say now that any restriction of spells fundamentally breaks one of the primary facts about Gleen, namely that he creates new spells regularly and teaches them to students.


Create spells regularly? Rather dangerous.
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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:56 pm

OP's Decree

Hear ye hear ye, due to recent events the following addition will be law in the RP.

Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

That will be it end of story.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:56 pm

New Roman Empire wrote:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_Standard_Book_of_Spells,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books

So, are we editing out any spell that isn't one of these?

Ok, let me ask something. Say we do this, we are restricted in what spells we cast, how often etc. and we have to cast only these spells and some other, seeing as you mention "more will come". What exactly will we be doing? The arcs would have to be significantly less risky, seeing as we wouldn't be able to cast major defensive or offensive spell until the later years. Or if they are risky-ish, the majority of us would have to be bystanders until the later years. Unless I don't think of something, wouldn't the above be a possible outcome?

New Roman Empire wrote:OP's Decree

Hear ye hear ye, due to recent events the following addition will be law in the RP.

Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

That will be it end of story.

Will that extend to the later years? Because that's what it looks like from the wording.
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Postby Skylus » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:02 pm

I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:02 pm

Curses you guys! Now I want to invent a spell! :?

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Postby True Christopia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Skylus wrote:I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?



I was joking with my post lmao. No, you don't have to edit out any spells. Just ignore them I'd say. Anywho, I've edited my post.
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Postby Skylus » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:05 pm

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Skylus wrote:I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?



I was joking with my post lmao. No, you don't have to edit out any spells. Just ignore them I'd say. Anywho, I've edited my post.

K.
So..who died/got knocked out by whatever? Going to have to edit AGAIN anyway, but who was the "victim" that was brought back to life?
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Postby Talchyon » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:05 pm

Skylus wrote:I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?


Skylus -

I will be posting soon.
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Postby Skylus » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:06 pm

Yes, thanks.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:07 pm

Skylus wrote:I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?

I would but I have no idea if someone really died, what spells I can use in that post, what events really transpired and which didn't. Basically, I will have to rethink a large portion of my character, since it will be difficult to keep on the same path without being able to cast any "Dark Magic". At least until the 4th (?) year where perhaps I can continue on from here.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:11 pm

World Anarchic Union wrote:
Skylus wrote:I am now completely lost. Do we HAVE to edit out basically EVERY spell from EVERY post, including the first arc?
And is someone going to post soon?

I would but I have no idea if someone really died, what spells I can use in that post, what events really transpired and which didn't. Basically, I will have to rethink a large portion of my character, since it will be difficult to keep on the same path without being able to cast any "Dark Magic". At least until the 4th (?) year where perhaps I can continue on from here.

You could dabble Malfoy-type douchbaggery, or perhaps just 'read up' on the subject. There are plenty of ways to be evil without all the fancy spells. Just use a floating charm on someone's breakfast maliciously or something like that.

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Postby True Christopia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:13 pm

Skylus wrote:
True Christopia wrote:

I was joking with my post lmao. No, you don't have to edit out any spells. Just ignore them I'd say. Anywho, I've edited my post.

K.
So..who died/got knocked out by whatever? Going to have to edit AGAIN anyway, but who was the "victim" that was brought back to life?


It was just a random Slytherin npc.
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Postby Talchyon » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:13 pm

Skylus wrote:Yes, thanks.


And I have. It doesn't continue the plot much, but it's something.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Khasinkonia wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:I would but I have no idea if someone really died, what spells I can use in that post, what events really transpired and which didn't. Basically, I will have to rethink a large portion of my character, since it will be difficult to keep on the same path without being able to cast any "Dark Magic". At least until the 4th (?) year where perhaps I can continue on from here.

You could dabble Malfoy-type douchbaggery, or perhaps just 'read up' on the subject. There are plenty of ways to be evil without all the fancy spells. Just use a floating charm on someone's breakfast maliciously or something like that.

I will just "read up". The things you mentioned would be severely changing my character and what I had in mind for him. Instead, I will just postpone it for when it's acceptable to actually follow up.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:19 pm

All right, following the ruling in the discord, Henry's previous use of Lycacomia is still canon, however the spell is now off limits til year 3.

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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:23 pm

World Anarchic Union wrote:
New Roman Empire wrote:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_Standard_Book_of_Spells,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books

So, are we editing out any spell that isn't one of these?

Ok, let me ask something. Say we do this, we are restricted in what spells we cast, how often etc. and we have to cast only these spells and some other, seeing as you mention "more will come". What exactly will we be doing? The arcs would have to be significantly less risky, seeing as we wouldn't be able to cast major defensive or offensive spell until the later years. Or if they are risky-ish, the majority of us would have to be bystanders until the later years. Unless I don't think of something, wouldn't the above be a possible outcome?

New Roman Empire wrote:OP's Decree

Hear ye hear ye, due to recent events the following addition will be law in the RP.

Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

That will be it end of story.

Will that extend to the later years? Because that's what it looks like from the wording.

Just focus on the decree at this point. But yes it will continue probably until year 4 or 5 when the ministry won't be as scared for another war.
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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:25 pm

World Anarchic Union wrote:
New Roman Empire wrote:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_Standard_Book_of_Spells,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books

So, are we editing out any spell that isn't one of these?

Ok, let me ask something. Say we do this, we are restricted in what spells we cast, how often etc. and we have to cast only these spells and some other, seeing as you mention "more will come". What exactly will we be doing? The arcs would have to be significantly less risky, seeing as we wouldn't be able to cast major defensive or offensive spell until the later years. Or if they are risky-ish, the majority of us would have to be bystanders until the later years. Unless I don't think of something, wouldn't the above be a possible outcome?

New Roman Empire wrote:OP's Decree

Hear ye hear ye, due to recent events the following addition will be law in the RP.

Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

That will be it end of story.

Will that extend to the later years? Because that's what it looks like from the wording.

Focus on the decree the decree will be in affect until year 4
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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:25 pm

World Anarchic Union wrote:
New Roman Empire wrote:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/The_Standard_Book_of_Spells,_Grade_1

There you go more will come.but this is the first as it comes from.the text books

So, are we editing out any spell that isn't one of these?

Ok, let me ask something. Say we do this, we are restricted in what spells we cast, how often etc. and we have to cast only these spells and some other, seeing as you mention "more will come". What exactly will we be doing? The arcs would have to be significantly less risky, seeing as we wouldn't be able to cast major defensive or offensive spell until the later years. Or if they are risky-ish, the majority of us would have to be bystanders until the later years. Unless I don't think of something, wouldn't the above be a possible outcome?

New Roman Empire wrote:OP's Decree

Hear ye hear ye, due to recent events the following addition will be law in the RP.

Then we could make it a Ministry ruling. Extending the Trace to monitor spells that are cast at Hogwarts and filtering out the mundane from the dangerous. Dangerous or questionable spells would be known to the Ministry and the student would be reprimanded.

That will be it end of story.

Will that extend to the later years? Because that's what it looks like from the wording.

Focus on the decree the decree will be in affect until year 4
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