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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:58 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Do you want to fight a war with Jerusalem and France, do you?! I will only take Jordan and Syria, and circumnavigate Iraq, but I will push for Iraq and Kuwait if you invade.


See, we need all Arab nations under our banner. Syria and Jordan count as far as we're concerned.

But, we'll keep the tentative peace for now. :eyebrow:
Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
Speaking of this Alliance and Britain, what is Britain doing in the middle east?

I ask because I want to know who my enemies are probably going to be before I get there, so I can have a better plan.

What OP said, but if you join us we could possibly give you significant arab-majority portions of the Levant and some pretty screamin trade deals especially since we now control over 50% of the world's pepper supply.

In case you didn't see

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Postby Nuverikstan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:58 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Do you want to fight a war with Jerusalem and France, do you?! I will only take Jordan and Syria, and circumnavigate Iraq, but I will push for Iraq and Kuwait if you invade.


See, we need all Arab nations under our banner. Syria and Jordan count as far as we're concerned.

But, we'll keep the tentative peace for now. :eyebrow:


I have already pushed the entirety of the Arab population out of Antioch, Aleppo and Damascus and all of the land in between. If you invade any of these territories, you will be taking Greek/French land, not Arab. However, we will also keep the tentative peace.
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Nation name:
The Arabian Empire

National Ideology: To protect their interests and the interests of all Arabs, to take Iraq, Syria Turkey and Jordan into their territory to further this goal and instate themselves as a major world power.

Nation's Leader(s): Empress Zella Nazari

National Government Type: Monarchy

National history: The Arabian Empire is a very new nation, being formed only 5 years ago when a young woman began to rally her tribe, and then surrounding tribes in a quest to conquer and protect all Arab lands from foreign interference. Zella Naziri, frustrated from a young age by the lack of identity and power in the area, began to gather followers when she was only 14, beginning the seeds of a new nation. Working together to push out foreigners, and to unite other Arab's. they soon found their power growing, until at the age of only 19 Zella had built the foundations of an empire looking to eschew the more traditionally religious and secular culture of the region in exchange for uniting all Arabs, regardless of creed or tribe so that they could all together work to protect their borders and culture.

Language: Arabic. (other tribal variations and languages.)

National Religion: No set religion. Most common is Islam, with Christianity coming second.

National Culture/Identity: Strong sense of individualism and militarism, as well as a manifest destiny to conquer all Arab lands and protect each other from outside aggression.

Territory (Consult the link to the map on the OP): Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman.

Capital City: Mecca

Population: 5,100,400.


MILITARY STATISTICS


Head General: General Abbas Rahal (Due to her being the one to unite the nation, and leading the army's as they captured their current territory, Zella in many ways acts in conjunction with Abbas in this regard.)

Generals Staff: Commander Lajo's Baz: Commander of the Cavalry

Commander Tacitus Abadi: Commander of the Infantry

Commander Zaan Toma: Commander of the Artillery

Military strength: ACTIVE PERSONNEL: 255,020
RESERVE PERSONNEL: 51,004

1. List the Branches of your Military (Marines, Army, Navy, Special Units, Cavalry, etc.) and their Manpower Size (Standing Army and Reserves):

CAVALRY: 50% of all active forces are Cavalry

ARMY 40% of all forces are Army

NAVY: 10% of all Forces are Navy

2. List size of naval forces (Ship wise, state the Manpower of your navy in Number 1), if any: About 22 ships in all.

(I dont know a lot about Napoleonic ship classifications, so If it seems like I have no idea what Im talking about here feel free to correct me.)

3. List amount of artillery, if any: 230 Field Guns, 20 Howitzers, 200 Coastal Defense Guns

ARMAMENT


Infantry:

Primary Weapon: Mecca Pattern 1800 Rifle (Due to the isolationist stance of the Empire, the Mecca Rifle is little more than Baker's rifle's being manufactured in Arabia.)

Land Pattern Musket (British Brown Bess Muskets, now being manufactured in the many newly built Arabian factory's.)

Secondary Weapon: Pistol's rifles, blunderbuss's, or whatever else they can get their hands on. (These are not issued by the military, and must be brought from home.)

Melee Weapon: Bayonet. (Many soldiers bring clubs, whips and other weapons from home to use as well.)

Uniform:

Pack gear: Meat ration
Water rations
additional ammo
sword
extra pair of clothe's

Greatest Strengths: knowledge of the harsh desert terrain, and irregular warfare.

Greatest Weaknesses: Not as well equipped or trained as many of their European counterparts,

Tactics: Move around the enemy so they cant get a bead on you. Don't form lines, stay hidden from view.

Specialty: Irregular and guerrilla warfare


Cavalry:

Primary Weapon: Cavalry Sword

Secondary Weapon: Same as infantry

Melee Weapon: Cavalry Sword

Uniform:

Pack gear: Meat ration
Water rations
additional ammo
sword
extra pair of clothe's


Greatest Strengths: Fast moving, well trained and knowledge of the terrain.

Greatest Weaknesses: Not as well armed or armored by their European counterparts.

Tactics: Move fast move hard. Attack before the enemy is ready, and break through their lines to cause as much havoc as possible.

Specialty: Fast speed, high numbers, most combat experience in the military.


Artillery:

Cannon Type(s): 12 and 8 pounders

Mortar Type(s): Cannister

Rockets: No

Howitzer Type(s): N/A

Shell types: Canister, Grape and Ball.

Men per artillery crew: Between 4 and 7, though sometimes less and sometimes more depending on the crew.

Mules/Horses: Generally between 2 and 4.

Ships

1. Ship Class: 3 BATTLESHIPS

6 FRIGATES

12 SCHOONERS

2. armament: Third Rate ship of the line, 74 guns

Fourth Rate ship of the line, 60 guns

Fifth rate Frigate, 40 - 44 guns

SCHOONER, between 20 and 50 guns

3. Crew: Third Rate ship of the line: 150 - 200

Fourth Rate ship of the line: 60 - 100

Fifth rate Frigate: 80 - 120

Schooner: 40 - 100
Accompaniments: None

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Postby Nuverikstan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:00 pm

Danceria wrote:Re-tag and re reserve as glorious Byzantium

Look, three people have reserves on that territory, just put an app in first! Y'all need to stop reserving land, and then running off for two days, before you notice the land was claimed in your absence.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:00 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
See, we need all Arab nations under our banner. Syria and Jordan count as far as we're concerned.

But, we'll keep the tentative peace for now. :eyebrow:


I have already pushed the entirety of the Arab population out of Antioch, Aleppo and Damascus and all of the land in between. If you invade any of these territories, you will be taking Greek/French land, not Arab. However, we will also keep the tentative peace.


See, that just creates even more problems. The goals of the Arabian Empire is to protect all Arabs, and to unite them under one banner. You doing that will just add more feul to the fire for our people, who will in all likelihood call for war or political pressure to free those city's, in order to protect their fellow Arabs.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:01 pm

Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
See, we need all Arab nations under our banner. Syria and Jordan count as far as we're concerned.

But, we'll keep the tentative peace for now. :eyebrow:
Franco-Iberie wrote:What OP said, but if you join us we could possibly give you significant arab-majority portions of the Levant and some pretty screamin trade deals especially since we now control over 50% of the world's pepper supply.

In case you didn't see

Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:02 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:
I have already pushed the entirety of the Arab population out of Antioch, Aleppo and Damascus and all of the land in between. If you invade any of these territories, you will be taking Greek/French land, not Arab. However, we will also keep the tentative peace.


See, that just creates even more problems. The goals of the Arabian Empire is to protect all Arabs, and to unite them under one banner. You doing that will just add more feul to the fire for our people, who will in all likelihood call for war or political pressure to free those city's, in order to protect their fellow Arabs.

We pushed them out hundreds of years ago. The history of Jerusalem goes back to the First Crusade in, 1095. Your people have not lived in this land for, at least, 400 years.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:02 pm

Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
See, we need all Arab nations under our banner. Syria and Jordan count as far as we're concerned.

But, we'll keep the tentative peace for now. :eyebrow:
Franco-Iberie wrote:What OP said, but if you join us we could possibly give you significant arab-majority portions of the Levant and some pretty screamin trade deals especially since we now control over 50% of the world's pepper supply.

In case you didn't see


Hmm. Interesting.

And you would help gain back the territory taken by Jerusalem, so that we can bring back the rightful Arab populations?
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:03 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
See, that just creates even more problems. The goals of the Arabian Empire is to protect all Arabs, and to unite them under one banner. You doing that will just add more feul to the fire for our people, who will in all likelihood call for war or political pressure to free those city's, in order to protect their fellow Arabs.

We pushed them out hundreds of years ago. The history of Jerusalem goes back to the First Crusade in, 1095. Your people have not lived in this land for, at least, 400 years.


Oh, I dint know that. I thought you were a relatively new nation, so I figured that this was a new thing.
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Postby Danceria » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:04 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Danceria wrote:Re-tag and re reserve as glorious Byzantium

Look, three people have reserves on that territory, just put an app in first! Y'all need to stop reserving land, and then running off for two days, before you notice the land was claimed in your absence.

Fudge :DDDD
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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:04 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Franco-Iberie wrote:In case you didn't see

Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.

But Jerusalem's allied with the filthy frogs against us, Arabia could help knock them out of the war as well as curtail the falthy french colonial expansion in the future. And plus, that Sinai peninsula of Jerusalem's is looking like a very good place to build a canal, just sayin.
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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:05 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Franco-Iberie wrote:In case you didn't see

Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.

BTW do I have your permission to enter the Boer War in exchange for Zimbabwe?

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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm

Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.

But Jerusalem's allied with the filthy frogs against us, Arabia could help knock them out of the war as well as curtail the falthy french colonial expansion in the future.


Well, our main goal right now is to unite all Arab lands under one flag. We probably wouldn't start any wars unless we felt like Jerusalem was standing in the way of that goal.

But, if you send a message our way we may just reconsider.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:We pushed them out hundreds of years ago. The history of Jerusalem goes back to the First Crusade in, 1095. Your people have not lived in this land for, at least, 400 years.


Oh, I dint know that. I thought you were a relatively new nation, so I figured that this was a new thing.

Nah man, my people are just as native, as the Arab conquerors before.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:07 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
Oh, I dint know that. I thought you were a relatively new nation, so I figured that this was a new thing.

Nah man, my people are just as native, as the Arab conquerors before.

TTI is my dawg. If you can keep the peace i'd like him in our alliance...

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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:07 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:
Oh, I dint know that. I thought you were a relatively new nation, so I figured that this was a new thing.

Nah man, my people are just as native, as the Arab conquerors before.

That could certainly be changed. *brandishes stick of ethnic resettlement*

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Postby Nuverikstan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:09 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Nah man, my people are just as native, as the Arab conquerors before.

TTI is my dawg. If you can keep the peace i'd like him in our alliance...

We would have to come to an agreement on Syria/Iraq.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:10 pm

Danceria wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Look, three people have reserves on that territory, just put an app in first! Y'all need to stop reserving land, and then running off for two days, before you notice the land was claimed in your absence.

Fudge :DDDD

First person to make a App for Anatolia and the Balkans gets it.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.

But Jerusalem's allied with the filthy frogs against us, Arabia could help knock them out of the war as well as curtail the falthy french colonial expansion in the future. And plus, that Sinai peninsula of Jerusalem's is looking like a very good place to build a canal, just sayin.

Hmm. It would be nice to have fewer enemies.

Franco-Iberie wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Britain is not interested in the Middle East and will not be interested until the later part of the Victorian Era. All the Middle East is good for is oil and oil isn't in demand until the 1880s and 1890s for warships and, later, automobiles.

BTW do I have your permission to enter the Boer War in exchange for Zimbabwe?

Feel free.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
The Traansval wrote:TTI is my dawg. If you can keep the peace i'd like him in our alliance...

We would have to come to an agreement on Syria/Iraq.


We will fight for Iraq. There is a little more leeway with Syria, since their close enough to Turkey that they could be considered Turkish rather than Arab.

But Iraq is a no no.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:12 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Nah man, my people are just as native, as the Arab conquerors before.

TTI is my dawg. If you can keep the peace i'd like him in our alliance...


I see everyone is interested in our massive army of Cavalry.
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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:12 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Franco-Iberie wrote:But Jerusalem's allied with the filthy frogs against us, Arabia could help knock them out of the war as well as curtail the falthy french colonial expansion in the future. And plus, that Sinai peninsula of Jerusalem's is looking like a very good place to build a canal, just sayin.

Hmm. It would be nice to have fewer enemies.

Franco-Iberie wrote:BTW do I have your permission to enter the Boer War in exchange for Zimbabwe?

Feel free.

Thank u papa manticoru, are you gonna be sending the message to the arabs or am I?

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Postby Halium » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:13 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:We would have to come to an agreement on Syria/Iraq.


We will fight for Iraq. There is a little more leeway with Syria, since their close enough to Turkey that they could be considered Turkish rather than Arab.

But Iraq is a no no.


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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:13 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:We would have to come to an agreement on Syria/Iraq.


We will fight for Iraq. There is a little more leeway with Syria, since their close enough to Turkey that they could be considered Turkish rather than Arab.

But Iraq is a no no.

But would you consider Syria French or Greek?

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