But you have to appease both. You can't just deport them all. This is not a situation, with an easy solution.
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by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:52 pm


by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:59 pm

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:07 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:But you have to appease both. You can't just deport them all. This is not a situation, with an easy solution.
Don't you see I'm trying to do that!?!?! I'm protecting innocent whites! Hunting Rebels and Hateful Natives. Showing how this Nation can be beneficial for both groups. And you're saying they appealed to the Nordic Government?!?! A Ally?!?! One where when they tried recruiting there, received little interest? How they got so much support from Novskar, another ally shocks me! And when then try to blame my Government for Genocide, when IM MOTHERRFUCKING TRYING TO STOP IT!!!!! How could I support Genocide of any kind?!?!!

by Mechanist Combine » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:21 pm


by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:24 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:Don't you see I'm trying to do that!?!?! I'm protecting innocent whites! Hunting Rebels and Hateful Natives. Showing how this Nation can be beneficial for both groups. And you're saying they appealed to the Nordic Government?!?! A Ally?!?! One where when they tried recruiting there, received little interest? How they got so much support from Novskar, another ally shocks me! And when then try to blame my Government for Genocide, when IM MOTHERRFUCKING TRYING TO STOP IT!!!!! How could I support Genocide of any kind?!?!!
How did they get support from your allies? I dunno, maybe because they are psuedo fascists, and that would be a similar ideology, to those of the rebels. You know the True Order, is supposed to be early Nazism, right? Also, you can't have your cake, and eat it too. You have to choose a side, or surrender Indonesia. If you pick a side, you will anger a lot of people, either way, if you surrender Indonesia, you anger your people and government, who will have seen this as a waste of time. There is no way, that you will come out of this, holding, ANY, moral high ground. Fine, I'll send in the penguins. They are ruthless, and will slaughter their adversaries, with ease.

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:30 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:How did they get support from your allies? I dunno, maybe because they are psuedo fascists, and that would be a similar ideology, to those of the rebels. You know the True Order, is supposed to be early Nazism, right? Also, you can't have your cake, and eat it too. You have to choose a side, or surrender Indonesia. If you pick a side, you will anger a lot of people, either way, if you surrender Indonesia, you anger your people and government, who will have seen this as a waste of time. There is no way, that you will come out of this, holding, ANY, moral high ground. Fine, I'll send in the penguins. They are ruthless, and will slaughter their adversaries, with ease.
Well, I know it's early Nazism. However, the point is I share the same Ideology, which basically feels everyone who adheres to it is equal, and those who don't inferior. It's kinda racist, but True Order Nations respect and ally with each other regardless. At this point, I'm literally thinking of Deporting everyone, or just the Whites. If we deport the Whites, I'll say they were unreasonable, and it was the only way to stop the Natives from killing them all. I'll either deport them to Madagascar, where it'll be my version of Australia, where I'm giving them an opportunity to have a good life, but there is no way out. Also, maybe I use the SS? They can get it done! Unfortunately, I can't use Madagascar for the original purposes, but maybe I can get my Puppet out of it if it calms the people there to an extent. If not, I'll have a blood soaked Island. One Island mind you, and only Republic ships are allowed to trade with it. Why? Mercantilism. That's why. This is mine plan.

by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:35 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:Well, I know it's early Nazism. However, the point is I share the same Ideology, which basically feels everyone who adheres to it is equal, and those who don't inferior. It's kinda racist, but True Order Nations respect and ally with each other regardless. At this point, I'm literally thinking of Deporting everyone, or just the Whites. If we deport the Whites, I'll say they were unreasonable, and it was the only way to stop the Natives from killing them all. I'll either deport them to Madagascar, where it'll be my version of Australia, where I'm giving them an opportunity to have a good life, but there is no way out. Also, maybe I use the SS? They can get it done! Unfortunately, I can't use Madagascar for the original purposes, but maybe I can get my Puppet out of it if it calms the people there to an extent. If not, I'll have a blood soaked Island. One Island mind you, and only Republic ships are allowed to trade with it. Why? Mercantilism. That's why. This is mine plan.
To be honest, that may be your best option. However, they still believe they are supported by the Nords, and most rebels are camped out in Nordic, American and Mexican lands. You could deport the population, and maybe convince the Nords to break their agreement with the Dutchmen, but Mexico and America support your death, so you will face a lot of rebels, still. Plus, if the Dutchmen catch wind of deportations, they will, probably, just flock to Dutch Sulawesi (Japanese, Israeli and American Sulawesi), and to Mexican Papua. Albeit, they are only in Mexican Papua, because they allow them to build military camps, but because they want to be under Mexican rule.

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:43 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:To be honest, that may be your best option. However, they still believe they are supported by the Nords, and most rebels are camped out in Nordic, American and Mexican lands. You could deport the population, and maybe convince the Nords to break their agreement with the Dutchmen, but Mexico and America support your death, so you will face a lot of rebels, still. Plus, if the Dutchmen catch wind of deportations, they will, probably, just flock to Dutch Sulawesi (Japanese, Israeli and American Sulawesi), and to Mexican Papua. Albeit, they are only in Mexican Papua, because they allow them to build military camps, but because they want to be under Mexican rule.
I find it odd why the they want Mexico to rule them, another group of Natives who basically gave Europe the middle finger........repeatedly. Or under Japan? Who again are a oriental group. The only people they should want to work with is the Nords, who are an ally, and the United States.

by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:49 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:I find it odd why the they want Mexico to rule them, another group of Natives who basically gave Europe the middle finger........repeatedly. Or under Japan? Who again are a oriental group. The only people they should want to work with is the Nords, who are an ally, and the United States.
No, they don't want Mexico to rule them. That is why, some of the Dutch Papua moved to American Sulawesi. They don't want to be ruled by the Mexicans, but they know the Mexican government is white, and believe they would have their best interests at hand, more than the FSA. Also, I miss spoke, not many would move to Japanese, Palu. Most would just move to Israeli and American Palu, if Nords break their agreement, with them. Which, to keep their alliance with you, they will have to fight a sizable, Dutch rebellion. Lastly, they wouldn't hate Mexico, Mexico is a group of natives which united, but didn't know how to rule. So, a Spaniard family offered to rule them and protect them. Ever since gaining power, they have kept the government either Peninsulare or Mestizo, while taking extra care of the natives.

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:53 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:No, they don't want Mexico to rule them. That is why, some of the Dutch Papua moved to American Sulawesi. They don't want to be ruled by the Mexicans, but they know the Mexican government is white, and believe they would have their best interests at hand, more than the FSA. Also, I miss spoke, not many would move to Japanese, Palu. Most would just move to Israeli and American Palu, if Nords break their agreement, with them. Which, to keep their alliance with you, they will have to fight a sizable, Dutch rebellion. Lastly, they wouldn't hate Mexico, Mexico is a group of natives which united, but didn't know how to rule. So, a Spaniard family offered to rule them and protect them. Ever since gaining power, they have kept the government either Peninsulare or Mestizo, while taking extra care of the natives.
Either way, he can do what I'm doing. Send shit tons of Dutch to Siberia. Either way, they could put the rebbelion down between us, and a bunch of Natives.

by Adsor » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:58 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:I find it odd why the they want Mexico to rule them, another group of Natives who basically gave Europe the middle finger........repeatedly. Or under Japan? Who again are a oriental group. The only people they should want to work with is the Nords, who are an ally, and the United States.
No, they don't want Mexico to rule them. That is why, some of the Dutch Papua moved to American Sulawesi. They don't want to be ruled by the Mexicans, but they know the Mexican government is white, and believe they would have their best interests at hand, more than the FSA. Also, I miss spoke, not many would move to Japanese, Palu. Most would just move to Israeli and American Palu, if Nords break their agreement, with them. Which, to keep their alliance with you, they will have to fight a sizable, Dutch rebellion. Lastly, they wouldn't hate Mexico, Mexico is a group of natives which united, but didn't know how to rule. So, a Spaniard family offered to rule them and protect them. Ever since gaining power, they have kept the government either Peninsulare or Mestizo, while taking extra care of the natives.

by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:58 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:Either way, he can do what I'm doing. Send shit tons of Dutch to Siberia. Either way, they could put the rebbelion down between us, and a bunch of Natives.
But why would he put down the Dutch? They are the strongest advocates of the True Order, in Indonesia and the homeland. He would be tell his population, alliance before beliefs, which is not a good message, to tell your people. Also, if any Dutch show up in Siberia or Antarctica, not only will you loose the respect of European nations, I will join up with Mexico's navy, and stop your ships. I protect my brethren.

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:04 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:
But why would he put down the Dutch? They are the strongest advocates of the True Order, in Indonesia and the homeland. He would be tell his population, alliance before beliefs, which is not a good message, to tell your people. Also, if any Dutch show up in Siberia or Antarctica, not only will you loose the respect of European nations, I will join up with Mexico's navy, and stop your ships. I protect my brethren.
A. We're true Order too. Therefore, it makes sense. A True Order ally. I'm installing True Order heavily at this point. You don't own anything in Siberia, and in Siberia, that works fine. Also, I never really planned to do anything in Antarctica. Your Penguin Brothers are fine. I'm not really sending Dutch to Siberia. Only Natives. I'm sending them to Madagascar, where they will live for a while, and probably won't leave until a Generation or two. Assimilation will be thorough......

by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:16 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:A. We're true Order too. Therefore, it makes sense. A True Order ally. I'm installing True Order heavily at this point. You don't own anything in Siberia, and in Siberia, that works fine. Also, I never really planned to do anything in Antarctica. Your Penguin Brothers are fine. I'm not really sending Dutch to Siberia. Only Natives. I'm sending them to Madagascar, where they will live for a while, and probably won't leave until a Generation or two. Assimilation will be thorough......
The first, second and third generation, will not assimilate. The fourth will become more accepting of assimilation. The fifth generation will be assimilated. I am fine with natives in Siberia, we don't like'em. In fact, I will send ships, to help with native deportation. Lastly, you are a liability. The Dutch would be an accepting puppet state. You would be an independent country, with three great powers, breathing down your neck.

by Nuverikstan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:36 pm
Apror wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:The first, second and third generation, will not assimilate. The fourth will become more accepting of assimilation. The fifth generation will be assimilated. I am fine with natives in Siberia, we don't like'em. In fact, I will send ships, to help with native deportation. Lastly, you are a liability. The Dutch would be an accepting puppet state. You would be an independent country, with three great powers, breathing down your neck.
Well, looks like no one is leaving Madagascar for......what, a hundred years? Shit. Two, a Independent power who will do more for the Nords than a Puppet state will. As far as Natiive Deportations, well, when they need to be deported, sure, I'll ring you up. The Dutch will make lovely home in Madagascar. Or be stubborn for years and live terrible lives until their descendants finally say 'fuck this, I don't want to live like this'. As for the three Great powers, Germany won't get anything. Why? He'll get rammed by the Nords and Novskar. As far as the Mexicans and Americans, I'm relatively content. They can't do anything without my government saying 'fuck it' and letting the Natives go wild, because right now we legitimately are try to protect whites, so we don't have problems when dealing with them. If we do this, we have a massive population of Natives, who hate whites, that America and Mexico will try to tame, who'll getting problems from us. Either way, it's a fucked situation. How any situation can end up like this is beyond me. Then I realize this is humanity we're talking about.

by Apror » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:49 pm
Nuverikstan wrote:Apror wrote:Well, looks like no one is leaving Madagascar for......what, a hundred years? Shit. Two, a Independent power who will do more for the Nords than a Puppet state will. As far as Natiive Deportations, well, when they need to be deported, sure, I'll ring you up. The Dutch will make lovely home in Madagascar. Or be stubborn for years and live terrible lives until their descendants finally say 'fuck this, I don't want to live like this'. As for the three Great powers, Germany won't get anything. Why? He'll get rammed by the Nords and Novskar. As far as the Mexicans and Americans, I'm relatively content. They can't do anything without my government saying 'fuck it' and letting the Natives go wild, because right now we legitimately are try to protect whites, so we don't have problems when dealing with them. If we do this, we have a massive population of Natives, who hate whites, that America and Mexico will try to tame, who'll getting problems from us. Either way, it's a fucked situation. How any situation can end up like this is beyond me. Then I realize this is humanity we're talking about.
1. Depending on how many Dutchmen, are in Madagascar, they may gain independence.
2. Bet, ships are on the way, ready to deport some natives.
3. Germany could fight them, and Mexico and America's navy, could easily beat you. Once the troops arrive, you will collapse.
4. Let the natives rip, there are still Dutch rebels and my "peacekeepers" who will defend the Dutch, no matter what.
5. It may be a challenge for America to fight the natives, but Mexico doesn't care, and recently nationalized the production, of chlorine gas. Even if we can't put the stuff in cannon rounds, yet, he could still release pressurized canisters of it in the jungle, and gas the natives.
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by South Vict » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:56 pm
Apror wrote:What are you doing?

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