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Postby Ontorisa » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:54 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
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You mean Arquebus?

Ah, you're referring to the good ol' shootbangs!


If you need to get rid of a couple thousand Aztecs.

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Postby The Moscow Metro Red Line » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:56 pm

Yeah, I'm going to stick in the books. Anyone is allowed to send a "student" or "students" to the SA. They just have to be approved by the Committee who is in charge of admissions. Or a SA member could just arrive at your respective settlement to teach the specific subject. The SA does that too but only sends people out for the main tasks of "field work" or book scavenging.
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Postby Parcia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:56 pm

It seems to me a lot of this pent of writing could be put to better use in...you know...THE IC!
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:56 pm

Ontorisa wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Ah, you're referring to the good ol' shootbangs!


If you need to get rid of a couple thousand Aztecs.

Naw man, that's what smallpox is for. Very few Aztecs actually died from the fighting.
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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:57 pm

Tysoania wrote:
Apror wrote:Actually, they are. Late mideval. And kinda crappy. But that when the begun development. My musketeers are basically the first of the first.

Muskets are Napoleonic. Are you thinking of the blunderbuss?

No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.
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Postby Ulls » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:58 pm

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Ulls wrote:Basically hippie settlements under the general leadership of medieval knights who smoke weed and worship Mothman. Generally passive and slow to anger but not afraid to protect themselves.

Well well, we sell weed and worship a Groundhog. Let's be friends and take down these pesky Christians, Neo-Romans and Neo-Americans.

What say you?

We like to keep to ourselves mostly and are probably the few factions that are generally nice to other people in the Wasteland. We are slow to expand and are willing to trade. We don't care for other religion and just want to be in peace.
We can still be friends since we have the same religion basically, but our views are different.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:58 pm

Apror wrote:
Tysoania wrote:Muskets are Napoleonic. Are you thinking of the blunderbuss?

No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.

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Postby Tysoania » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm

The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:Yeah, I'm going to stick in the books. Anyone is allowed to send a "student" or "students" to the SA. They just have to be approved by the Committee who is in charge of admissions. Or a SA member could just arrive at your respective settlement to teach the specific subject. The SA does that too but only sends people out for the main tasks of "field work" or book scavenging.

How do students get accepted?

Also, what subjects are taught?
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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm

Can we make a Protestant religion or something. Gives more options.
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South Mauristan
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Postby South Mauristan » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:00 pm

Apror wrote:
Tysoania wrote:Muskets are Napoleonic. Are you thinking of the blunderbuss?

No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.

I think we are getting too caught up in the whole "when things were invented" business. We have to remember that no matter who you are or what faction you are playing as this stuff does exist, its just varying things are available at varying degrees. You can't tell someone they can't use muskets yet because they haven't been invented yet.
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Postby New Grestin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:00 pm

Anowa wrote:Muskets aren't medieval.

To his defense, though, the wording of the Medieval Tech does allow for basic, single shot gunpowder weapons.

Forest State wrote:Oh, and I know Grestin wants to move on, but I just want to say that if the morality of tactics is going to become a problem, I'm out before this even starts. I've been in an RP before where the evil faction wasn't actually allowed to do anything bad without complaining and arguments from users who wanted the thread to be lighter, it wasn't fun at all.

Let me put this in official terms:

I do not give a single solitary fuck about how the Ferals or NPC groups are treated. If you want to pillage and enslave, then that's your decision. People won't like it IC-wise, but that's as far as I intend to pursue it. This is intended to be as freeform as possible, and if you want to be evil, then great. Have fun with it.

If you take offense to this in the OOC, then I refer you to Rule #1: "Don't be a dick."

Apror wrote:Can we make a Protestant religion or something. Gives more options.

There's an application form for new religions now. Feel free.
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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:00 pm

Tysoania wrote:
The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:Yeah, I'm going to stick in the books. Anyone is allowed to send a "student" or "students" to the SA. They just have to be approved by the Committee who is in charge of admissions. Or a SA member could just arrive at your respective settlement to teach the specific subject. The SA does that too but only sends people out for the main tasks of "field work" or book scavenging.

How do students get accepted?

Also, what subjects are taught?

That is a good question.
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Anowa
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Postby Anowa » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:01 pm

Apror wrote:
Tysoania wrote:Muskets are Napoleonic. Are you thinking of the blunderbuss?

No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Nothing made prior to the 1800s was a rifle. Every firearm prior was smoothbore.
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The Frozen Forest
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:04 pm

Ulls wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:Well well, we sell weed and worship a Groundhog. Let's be friends and take down these pesky Christians, Neo-Romans and Neo-Americans.

What say you?

We like to keep to ourselves mostly and are probably the few factions that are generally nice to other people in the Wasteland. We are slow to expand and are willing to trade. We don't care for other religion and just want to be in peace.
We can still be friends since we have the same religion basically, but our views are different.

Both religions fall under the banner of Herbalism with Marmotism (The Groundhog Cult) having a few aspects of Christianity, Animism and Islam mixed it. how much cannabis do the Knights grow? Do they import any or are they completely self sufficient in that regard.
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Postby Parcia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:06 pm

Anowa wrote:
Apror wrote:No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Nothing made prior to the 1800s was a rifle. Every firearm prior was smoothbore.


Clarification: What makes a rifle a rifle is the grooves inside the barrel, which allow the bullet to spin as it sped towards its target, enhancing accuracy and range. Weapons before this method, which came about in the early to mid 1800s, were not rifles, but in fact smooth-bore muskets.

Things from the 1500s one were...glorified iron tubes with rocks and black powder shoved down the barrel.
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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:06 pm

Protestant

The Protestant faith is diverse, but is basically Christian. Protestants tend to be more accepting of people of other faiths, but don't take well to being attacked for theirs. They tend to prefer to be around Catholics, due to them also using the Bible. Their interpretations of the Bible can range for very different opinions.
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South Mauristan
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Postby South Mauristan » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... ons#Ranged

Can we just assume this is the basis for ranged weapons of the "middle ages"
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Postby Greater Socialist Albania » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 pm

Grestin how about making Las Vegas or should i say Clark county a government stronghold, that would be fun.

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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:08 pm

Parcia wrote:
Anowa wrote:I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Nothing made prior to the 1800s was a rifle. Every firearm prior was smoothbore.


Clarification: What makes a rifle a rifle is the grooves inside the barrel, which allow the bullet to spin as it sped towards its target, enhancing accuracy and range. Weapons before this method, which came about in the early to mid 1800s, were not rifles, but in fact smooth-bore muskets.

Things from the 1500s one were...glorified iron tubes with rocks and black powder shoved down the barrel.

Considering that's way too long a discription, let's just call it a Musket.
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Postby Apror » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:09 pm

South Mauristan wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_weapons#Ranged

Can we just assume this is the basis for ranged weapons of the "middle ages"

That's where I went to check for sure.
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Ithalian Empire
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 pm

Apror wrote:
Parcia wrote:
Clarification: What makes a rifle a rifle is the grooves inside the barrel, which allow the bullet to spin as it sped towards its target, enhancing accuracy and range. Weapons before this method, which came about in the early to mid 1800s, were not rifles, but in fact smooth-bore muskets.

Things from the 1500s one were...glorified iron tubes with rocks and black powder shoved down the barrel.

Considering that's way too long a discription, let's just call it a Musket.

Could call then what they are called. Hand Cannon.
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Postby Parcia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 pm

Apror wrote:
Parcia wrote:
Clarification: What makes a rifle a rifle is the grooves inside the barrel, which allow the bullet to spin as it sped towards its target, enhancing accuracy and range. Weapons before this method, which came about in the early to mid 1800s, were not rifles, but in fact smooth-bore muskets.

Things from the 1500s one were...glorified iron tubes with rocks and black powder shoved down the barrel.

Considering that's way too long a discription, let's just call it a Musket.



I apologize, that's actually the short version. Me, Anowa, and a few others here are regular military RPers, and have garnered a wealth of knowledge on such topics.

ETA on that IC?
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Postby South Mauristan » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 pm

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Postby Biscaria » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:11 pm

Parcia wrote:ETA on that IC?

I second that.

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Postby Ulls » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:12 pm

Anowa wrote:
Apror wrote:No, those were usually rifles. Musketeers were deployed in the 15th century, even during the Middle Ages. Cannons too. If I am correct, cannons had a role in the crusades.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Nothing made prior to the 1800s was a rifle. Every firearm prior was smoothbore.

Perhaps he is talking about the bronze cannons? Those were more of a renaissance tech. However, we Kingdoms could have more in the way of the Chinese Fire Lance? [/quote]


The Frozen Forest wrote:Both religions fall under the banner of Herbalism with Marmotism (The Groundhog Cult) having a few aspects of Christianity, Animism and Islam mixed it. how much cannabis do the Knights grow? Do they import any or are they completely self sufficient in that regard.

Completely self sufficient. How much they grow depends on the settlement and the spirit that they require for worship. The Knights themselves don't use much since they believe too much hinders their ability to fight.

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