Postquam Imperium [Imperium Aeternum Chapter II/OOC/OPEN]

[Khasinkonia]

Japan-Korea's nuclear plan will consist of having enough warheads to have some in every part of the empire, so probably between somewhere 600 and 2000.

I can give you good deals on Uranium if you want. Of course, there is something I want in return.

You want nukes too? Let's just all have nukes, and proceed to not use them for fear of nuclear war.

Also, I was just looking at the OP, and something hit me. We don't have a group app. Now that we're in the 20th century, I think that there'll almost definitely be separatist and/or terrorist organisations.

[Nancivania]

I can give you good deals on Uranium if you want. Of course, there is something I want in return.

You want nukes too? Let's just all have nukes, and proceed to not use them for fear of nuclear war.

So that's how many country's that will be getting nukes?

[Plzen]

You want nukes too? Let's just all have nukes, and proceed to not use them for fear of nuclear war.

So that's how many country's that will be getting nukes?

At the very minimum, it's Italy, Germany, Japan, and Bharat for 4.

Circumstantially, Scandinavia, Russia, Nova Hatteria, and a half a dozen secondary powers are all capable of supporting nuclear programs. Whether they will do so is another question: after all, not every country that can support a nuclear program does so IRL.

[The Valyria Empire]

Anyways, leaving aside the hopeless case that is a Scandinavian war plan against Germany, let's discuss something a bit more productive.

Space! Because what's a twentieth century great power without its own space program? I imagine it will be a big thing starting from the 1930s.

By 1950, which is about the time the first moon landing might happen, the world's list of great powers have probably shifted fairly dramatically. Unless some dramatic war happens, I'll hazard a guess that Scandinavia and the Niceans will drop out of the great powers list while Bharat and the Great Tang joins it. Java may or may not join the great powers list, depending on whether Scandinavia keeps investing big money in Javan infrastructural development.

I suspect that the first man on the moon will likely be from Nova Hatteria or Germany.

I mean, Italy is a pretty good bet, as well... considering they're going to be one of the first nuclear powers, and are allied with Nicaea's big economy, etc.

In fact, in a space race, I think Nicaea would economically support Italy just to spite Germany and Hatteria (or at least preserve Roman dominance).

Speaking of Nova Hatteria and Nova Roma, if they don't app soon, I'm going to open them up for new players. The UK of Celtia/Britannia, too, I guess.

Until we reclaim the Balkans we don't have the development needed to make a space program. We have about half. We'd honestly support both sides for a bit (helping both get their satellites into space) but eventually stick with one.

[Democratic East-Asia]

The coming cold war post atomic bomb will sure be interesting. Bharat will not be left behind.

[Kerbodine]

First German IC post up! All nations are invited to send up to a dozen major industrialists, politicians, diplomats, aristocrats- well, we don't care, really, as long as they're somebody with a name; we want to show off our canal!

As to the secret military project, I'm legitimately not certain if I want it to be rocketry or atomic power, but either way, both are probs currently in the experimental phase, a year or a few from production.

[The V O I D]

The Italian North Africa flag looks very, very noice.

As for other stuff, remember: atom bombs won't be a thing for anyone until Italy or Germany gets it around page 8 of the IC (page 7 being the absolute earliest, unless we decide to move forward earlier than that but I'd like some development first).

When we get to the point where there's thousands of nuclear warheads, I'll put both an OOC ban and an Association ban on using WMDs unless the plot calls for it.

[Democratic East-Asia]

The Italian North Africa flag looks very, very noice.

As for other stuff, remember: atom bombs won't be a thing for anyone until Italy or Germany gets it around page 8 of the IC (page 7 being the absolute earliest, unless we decide to move forward earlier than that but I'd like some development first).

When we get to the point where there's thousands of nuclear warheads, I'll put both an OOC ban and an Association ban on using WMDs unless the plot calls for it.

I say the ban not be placed. Only time will tell if the cold war gets hot. An explicit ban simply makes stockpiling pointless. Implicitly I still think nations would avoid using them, unless they want to commit international suicide.

[The V O I D]

The Italian North Africa flag looks very, very noice.

As for other stuff, remember: atom bombs won't be a thing for anyone until Italy or Germany gets it around page 8 of the IC (page 7 being the absolute earliest, unless we decide to move forward earlier than that but I'd like some development first).

When we get to the point where there's thousands of nuclear warheads, I'll put both an OOC ban and an Association ban on using WMDs unless the plot calls for it.

I say the ban not be placed. Only time will tell if the cold war gets hot. An explicit ban simply makes stockpiling pointless. Implicitly I still think nations would avoid using them, unless they want to commit international suicide.

Eh... I just don't want nukes to be thrown around for giggles.

But yeah, Italy or Germany gets them first; other major powers shortly after, then the secondary powers.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Nation App - Postquam Imperium:

Formal Nation Name: Hellenic Kingdom of The Byzantine Empire
Informal Nation Name: Hellenic Byzantium, Western Byzantium
Shortened Nation Name: Hellenic Byzantium, West Byzantium
Flag:

Coat of Arms/Other Symbols:

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: King Constantine XIX
Head of Government: King Constantine XIX
Population: Around 40 Million (any advice is helpful)
Capital: Constantinople (proclaimed), Athens (De-Facto)
Major/StateReligion: Roman Catholicism
Map: Green blob in Eastern Europe https://imgur.com/PV130Nq
Influence: Minor influence from Rome (although we don't like to admit it)
Military Population: 1.2 Million?
History: The Hellenic Kingdom of The Byzantine Empire is a relatively new country being born less then 30 years ago. Immediately after the fall of Rome and the independence of the remaining Byzantine Empire, the Western half was a part of the Nicaean Empire for a period of time, however this was regarded as a bad situation for the citizens of West Byzantium who still followed the Pope and the Catholic Church. That was, until a former noble who was very close to the old king traveled to Rome and convinced the Church to give him the right to rule over "all Byzantine Catholics". He then traveled back to his home to give a speech and declare a new kingdom in "Catholic Byzantium". He originally wanted to do this in Constantinople but due to the riots, looting, crime, and general instability he instead traveled to Athens were he spoke to the population for over 5 hours before officially declaring independence from Nicaea as a new state. The new nation originally had difficulty remaining united in the face of the power vacuum caused by Romes collapse but eventually got their sh*t and united a divided country.

The country itself is divided into 12 provinces and 2 federal cities (Athens and Belgrade) all of which are tied together with the newly finished Trans-Byzantine railway which transports goods and people across the vast empire. The government has been led by King Constantine XIX sense independence, many are assuming he will give up his throne to his son within a few years time. The nation itself has had very icy relations with not only Nicaea but to a degree Russia. It has very few allies in the world but has been looking to improve relations with Germany.
RP Example: Exempt
Imperium - DO NOT REMOVE

[Cascadia-Yukon]

App is up, my internet will be out for a few days in less then 30 minutes so make any criticisms snappy

[The Valyria Empire]

Constantine the 19th, interesting. The last Constantine of Byzantium was the XV (15th) so I wonder what happened to the four Constantines before this one. Cause no Constantines ruled Byzantium (Nicaea) following XV. Also your Roman numeral is incorrect, it should be XIX.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Constantine the 19th, interesting. The last Constantine of Byzantium was the XV (15th) so I wonder what happened to the four Constantines before this one. Cause no Constantines ruled Byzantium (Nicaea) following XV. Also your Roman numeral is incorrect, it should be XIX.

Thank you, I'm not too skilled with Roman Numerals

[The Valyria Empire]

Constantine the 19th, interesting. The last Constantine of Byzantium was the XV (15th) so I wonder what happened to the four Constantines before this one. Cause no Constantines ruled Byzantium (Nicaea) following XV. Also your Roman numeral is incorrect, it should be XIX.

Thank you, I'm not too skilled with Roman Numerals

So you meant for the 19th, right? So I'm curious how four Constantines ruled in your nation before the 19th in such a short time period.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Thank you, I'm not too skilled with Roman Numerals

So you meant for the 19th, right? So I'm curious how four Constantines ruled in your nation before the 19th in such a short time period.

Triplets and uncreative naming

[Khasinkonia]

So you meant for the 19th, right? So I'm curious how four Constantines ruled in your nation before the 19th in such a short time period.

Triplets and uncreative naming

I could swear you Byzantines are the French of this universe.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Triplets and uncreative naming

I could swear you Byzantines are the French of this universe.

Now THAT'S an insult!

[The Valyria Empire]

Triplets and uncreative naming

I could swear you Byzantines are the French of this universe.

Who names all three kids the same name? That just seems silly, cause I can't think of any cases in Roman/Byzantine society where that happened.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

I could swear you Byzantines are the French of this universe.

Who names all three kids the same name? That just seems silly, cause I can't think of any cases in Roman/Byzantine society where that happened.

Correction: Uneducated, self centered, fathers of triplets

[The Valyria Empire]

Who names all three kids the same name? That just seems silly, cause I can't think of any cases in Roman/Byzantine society where that happened.

Correction: Uneducated, self centered, fathers of triplets

And who decides to make an uneducated, self centered man King?

[Khasinkonia]

Correction: Uneducated, self centered, fathers of triplets

And who decides to make an uneducated, self centered man King?

Equally stupid people.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Correction: Uneducated, self centered, fathers of triplets

And who decides to make an uneducated, self centered man King?

God?

[The Valyria Empire]

And who decides to make an uneducated, self centered man King?

Equally stupid people.

Further proof West Byzantium is in need of our guidance. Neither God nor the Pope should decide who should be King.

[Cascadia-Yukon]

Equally stupid people.

Further proof West Byzantium is in need of our guidance. Neither God nor the Pope should decide who should be King.

You do realize I'm not going to be annexed that easily right?

[The Valyria Empire]

Further proof West Byzantium is in need of our guidance. Neither God nor the Pope should decide who should be King.

You do realize I'm not going to be annexed that easily right?

Never said it was going to be easy. Besides Constantinople comes first, also I might not annex you, maybe you'll make a good vassal. I plan to address Hellenic Byzantium at the AON, lots of propaganda and meeting with Italy, Germany and Russia's leaders.

I look forward to the fights and debates at the AON.