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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:18 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Arana wrote:Well, considering the Empire has largely lost control of the Mid and Outer Rims, and is now fighting a multi-front war against two different forces, and will likely have to deal with increased secessionist presence on worlds they still control, they should have much lower odds of success than they otherwise would have.


I wouldn't really call it a multifront war from my understanding of the RP. It's more like the battered, but substantial remains of the CIS along with a fledgling Rebellion, against the Empire.

Granted, this Empire is likely going to face a much more difficult time in establishing itself early on, but it certainly has the upper hand as of the RPs start.

In the last three years the CIS have recovered from the events of ROTS. The Empire is still in the phase of transitioning. The CIS and Empire are matched Navy wise with the Empire having the greater military.

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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:20 pm

I'm guessing Imperial training evens out droid numbers. Even so, I'm personally having a hard time not imagining storm troopers as incompetent terrible shots :p
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:21 pm

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The Valyria Empire wrote:Fairly. I'd compare it on terms with RoTJ or Rogue One. They have at least 5 Mon Calamari ships, with most of the fleet being Nebulons, and Corvetts.

They also have the Jedi, thus Force wise they out match and our number both CIS and Imps.


I see. Interesting.

Would a defector vessel from the Empire (I'm thinking an Acclamator) with a Jedi or two be acceptable? I mean, some clones would not execute their commanders and leaders (See General Arligan Zey) due to their...well. Caring for those under them.

This RP follows canon, over Legends. Thus the only defect clones are; Gregor, Rex and Wolfe. Plus any custom clones players can make.

An Acclamator is fine, but I don't think a Jedi would be operating it.

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Postby Ormata » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:22 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Ormata wrote:
I see. Interesting.

Would a defector vessel from the Empire (I'm thinking an Acclamator) with a Jedi or two be acceptable? I mean, some clones would not execute their commanders and leaders (See General Arligan Zey) due to their...well. Caring for those under them.

This RP follows canon, over Legends. Thus the only defect clones are; Gregor, Rex and Wolfe. Plus any custom clones players can make.

An Acclamator is fine, but I don't think a Jedi would be operating it.


Only canon?

Balls. /hugs my Skiratas and my Omega Squad

Nooooo

I'm making a custom clone then. A maybe-maybe not Spar sorta guy.

Because, you know. Mah clones.

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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:25 pm

Ormata wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:This RP follows canon, over Legends. Thus the only defect clones are; Gregor, Rex and Wolfe. Plus any custom clones players can make.

An Acclamator is fine, but I don't think a Jedi would be operating it.


Only canon?

Balls. /hugs my Skiratas and my Omega Squad

Nooooo

I'm making a custom clone then. A maybe-maybe not Spar sorta guy.

Because, you know. Mah clones.

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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:32 pm

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Postby Arana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:38 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
I wouldn't really call it a multifront war from my understanding of the RP. It's more like the battered, but substantial remains of the CIS along with a fledgling Rebellion, against the Empire.

Granted, this Empire is likely going to face a much more difficult time in establishing itself early on, but it certainly has the upper hand as of the RPs start.

In the last three years the CIS have recovered from the events of ROTS. The Empire is still in the phase of transitioning. The CIS and Empire are matched Navy wise with the Empire having the greater military.

Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.
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Postby Helvetea » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:39 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:If I accepted you and you're not on the roster plus reply to this with either a quote of your app, a link to the post or the app in spoilers.


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=399497&p=30812017&hilit=mar+tuuk#p30812017

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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:44 pm

Arana wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:In the last three years the CIS have recovered from the events of ROTS. The Empire is still in the phase of transitioning. The CIS and Empire are matched Navy wise with the Empire having the greater military.

Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.

Empire has quality over quantity when it comes to the army. Their juggernauts, LAATs, AT-ST, AT-ACT, and their new weaponry give them the edge on the ground.

Navy wise it's tied, the Empire has quality but the CIS have both. The CIS and Empire are tied when it comes to Fighters, as well as Capital ships. However the Pride of the Core gives the Empire an edge over the CIS. The CIS are close to the level they were at during the mid-Clone wars, before the Phase-II armor.
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The Valyria Empire wrote:If I accepted you and you're not on the roster plus reply to this with either a quote of your app, a link to the post or the app in spoilers.


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=399497&p=30812017&hilit=mar+tuuk#p30812017

I said to remove the Subjucator, no one has one yet. If that is done, you're accepted. You can have a Lukerhulk in the mean time.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Arana wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:In the last three years the CIS have recovered from the events of ROTS. The Empire is still in the phase of transitioning. The CIS and Empire are matched Navy wise with the Empire having the greater military.

Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.


Battle droids are almost literally jokes, aren't they? :p

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Postby Helvetea » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:47 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Arana wrote:Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.

Empire has quality over quantity when it comes to the army. Their juggernauts, LAATs, AT-ST, AT-ACT, and their new weaponry give them the edge on the ground.

Navy wise it's tied, the Empire has quality but the CIS have both. The CIS and Empire are tied when it comes to Fighters, as well as Capital ships. However the Pride of the Core gives the Empire an edge over the CIS. The CIS are close to the level they were at during the mid-Clone wars, before the Phase-II armor.

I said to remove the Subjucator, no one has one yet. If that is done, you're accepted. You can have a Lukerhulk in the mean time.


Arana said my character would have a good chance of being the captain of it.

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Postby Helvetea » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:47 pm

Zanera wrote:
Arana wrote:Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.


Battle droids are almost literally jokes, aren't they? :p


The Commando droids would like to talk with you.

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Postby Arana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:48 pm

Zanera wrote:
Arana wrote:Greater in quality, or both quality and quantity? Because the Droid Army at its peak was the largest ever assembled.


Battle droids are almost literally jokes, aren't they? :p

Yes, but we have millions of them. Quantity for the win! :P

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The Valyria Empire wrote:Empire has quality over quantity when it comes to the army. Their juggernauts, LAATs, AT-ST, AT-ACT, and their new weaponry give them the edge on the ground.

Navy wise it's tied, the Empire has quality but the CIS have both. The CIS and Empire are tied when it comes to Fighters, as well as Capital ships. However the Pride of the Core gives the Empire an edge over the CIS. The CIS are close to the level they were at during the mid-Clone wars, before the Phase-II armor.

I said to remove the Subjucator, no one has one yet. If that is done, you're accepted. You can have a Lukerhulk in the mean time.


Arana said my character would have a good chance of being the captain of it.

I mean, I did... when it exists. It's not done being built yet. And that's not a guarantee... it would make sense for the Council to give it to you, but they might do something else.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:49 pm

Vader in the OT and in canon and legends comics is shown to take huge amounts of lightning without his respirator breaking down. Sure, it weakens, and he is usually forced to his knees; he can usually get back up soon after his respirator readjusts and re-acclimates to not-being-electrocuted.

This Vader, since his respirator is more to assist breathing than to breathe for him, would also be fairly durable and would allow him to do things OT Vader and such couldn't do. Not to the extent of an undamaged Anakin, but he'd be a far cry from being as unathletic and such as OT Vader.

Considering similar tech probs went into this respirator as his first one in the OT, that means that he should be able to tank similar levels of lightning with minimal long-term affects; of course, since it is just assisting him to breathe, this also means if it ever did break down, Vader is simply struggling to breathe rather than choking to death. He'd have to use the Force to assist his breathing as well as to sustain his being, as well as having to divert some of his usual focus towards breathing to make sure he's getting a proper amount of air, but beyond that, he'd still be able to fight.

tl;dr Vader won't be as athletic as an undamaged Anakin Skywalker, but he'd be far more mobile and such than OT Vader.

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Postby Zanera » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Helvetea wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Battle droids are almost literally jokes, aren't they? :p


The Commando droids would like to talk with you.


Those don't count. They don't have Comic Relief Programming. :p

Arana wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Battle droids are almost literally jokes, aren't they? :p

Yes, but we have millions of them. Quantity for the win! :P

Helvetea wrote:
Arana said my character would have a good chance of being the captain of it.

I mean, I did... when it exists. It's not done being built yet. And that's not a guarantee... it would make sense for the Council to give it to you, but they might do something else.


All a Battle Droid is programmed to do is point and shoot better than stormtroopers.

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Postby Helvetea » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:57 pm

Zanera wrote:
Helvetea wrote:
The Commando droids would like to talk with you.


Those don't count. They don't have Comic Relief Programming. :p

Arana wrote:Yes, but we have millions of them. Quantity for the win! :P


I mean, I did... when it exists. It's not done being built yet. And that's not a guarantee... it would make sense for the Council to give it to you, but they might do something else.


All a Battle Droid is programmed to do is point and shoot better than stormtroopers.


There'd be a couple in my group who are somewhat competent. Mostly Command droids.

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Postby Zanera » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:03 pm

Helvetea wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Those don't count. They don't have Comic Relief Programming. :p



All a Battle Droid is programmed to do is point and shoot better than stormtroopers.


There'd be a couple in my group who are somewhat competent. Mostly Command droids.


I guess those chips are a little more expensive so only certain droids got it and were essentially officers, except no real autonomy. Which is probably why Clonetroopers looked like badasses. They could think, think outside the box, and are still good with their gun.

Which reminds me, the Empire began retiring Clonetroopers. What did the Clonetroopers do then?

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Postby Helvetea » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:06 pm

Zanera wrote:
Helvetea wrote:
There'd be a couple in my group who are somewhat competent. Mostly Command droids.


I guess those chips are a little more expensive so only certain droids got it and were essentially officers, except no real autonomy. Which is probably why Clonetroopers looked like badasses. They could think, think outside the box, and are still good with their gun.

Which reminds me, the Empire began retiring Clonetroopers. What did the Clonetroopers do then?


Well, the thing with Tuuk is that after he got beaten, he started putting B1s with experience in command roles. So the Command droids he has are competent ones. I.E The droid who realised taking on the Jedi was a bad idea (which the two others with him ignored) and got a B2 to open fire on them.
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Postby Arana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:36 pm

Would the various Confederates here like to come up with a strategy to fight off the Empire, and, more specifically, defend Geonosis?
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:39 pm

Arana wrote:Would the various Confederates here like to come up with a strategy to fight off the Empire, and, more specifically, defend Geonosis?


>defending Geonosis from Vader
kek.

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Postby Arana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:40 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Arana wrote:Would the various Confederates here like to come up with a strategy to fight off the Empire, and, more specifically, defend Geonosis?


>defending Geonosis from Vader
kek.

I mean with the Serenno and Geonosis fleets combined, they might be able to fight the Empire to a stalemate before they can land.

Plus brain worms. Always remember the brain worms. :twisted:
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:42 pm

Arana wrote:
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>defending Geonosis from Vader
kek.

I mean with the Serenno and Geonosis fleets combined, they might be able to fight the Empire to a stalemate before they can land.

Plus brain worms. Always remember the brain worms. :twisted:


Weren't they all buried with that one Geonosian Queen after the events of that Clone Wars arc?

Reasonably sure they were, aside from the ones which escaped... and they all died. So...

Regardless, Vader would be wearing his 'desert armor', and there'd likely be Sandtrooper-type stormtroopers with him. Meaning airtight suits with their own oxygen supply. Your brain worms are useless.

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Postby Spindle » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:44 pm

Zanera wrote:
Helvetea wrote:There'd be a couple in my group who are somewhat competent. Mostly Command droids.


I guess those chips are a little more expensive so only certain droids got it and were essentially officers, except no real autonomy. Which is probably why Clonetroopers looked like badasses. They could think, think outside the box, and are still good with their gun.

Which reminds me, the Empire began retiring Clonetroopers. What did the Clonetroopers do then?


Died mostly. Accelerated ageing meant that they couldn't do all that much and the Empire was never going to pay for their pensions. They were mainly executed and/or abandoned.

Or initiated into the Phase Zero Darktrooper project, where they were augmented to become clone Vaders (ish) and sent out to fight. After that, they went insane and were put down.

So...not a good time period to be a clone trooper.
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Postby Arana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:46 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Arana wrote:I mean with the Serenno and Geonosis fleets combined, they might be able to fight the Empire to a stalemate before they can land.

Plus brain worms. Always remember the brain worms. :twisted:


Weren't they all buried with that one Geonosian Queen after the events of that Clone Wars arc?

Reasonably sure they were, aside from the ones which escaped... and they all died. So...

Regardless, Vader would be wearing his 'desert armor', and there'd likely be Sandtrooper-type stormtroopers with him. Meaning airtight suits with their own oxygen supply. Your brain worms are useless.

I mean, they all said they hoped they were. But that doesn't mean they were. Plus, it's canon that at least some survived, because the episode immediately after has an outbreak of them, which they do stop, but it means that not all of them died.

Also, I meant more the army of undead Geonosians that would be defending the planet because of them.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:59 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Arana wrote:Would the various Confederates here like to come up with a strategy to fight off the Empire, and, more specifically, defend Geonosis?


>defending Geonosis from Vader
kek.

I'll do my part in securing Geonosis. Ships and supplies.
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