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Ascoobis wrote:

Democratic East-Asia wrote:There are the other Oversectors and their Grand Moffs.

So it would only be positions in this Oversector(I believe 13 it was) that may be at least more vulnerable to attack?

Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Attaca's preoccupied with the CIS as of now. The rebels are a secondary threat, seeing that their forces are far more limited. Also, you'll have to note the significantly reduced amount of censorship and overt (the Empire is still human centric) racism against aliens in Oversector 13. Attaca might be a dictator, but he still believes in many of the old republic's ideals. It could actually be possible to get him to listen to a rebel delegate in secret.

If he's willing to meet with a Rebel delegate and focused primarily on the CIS than I imagine he'd be pretty low on the Rebel's hit list. And looking at the character list, it seems there are plenty of Imperial HVTs to keep Havoc Squad occupied.

Brusia wrote:

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Attaca's preoccupied with the CIS as of now. The rebels are a secondary threat, seeing that their forces are far more limited. Also, you'll have to note the significantly reduced amount of censorship and overt (the Empire is still human centric) racism against aliens in Oversector 13. Attaca might be a dictator, but he still believes in many of the old republic's ideals. It could actually be possible to get him to listen to a rebel delegate in secret.

If he's willing to meet with a Rebel delegate and focused primarily on the CIS than I imagine he'd be pretty low on the Rebel's hit list. And looking at the character list, it seems there are plenty of Imperial HVTs to keep Havoc Squad occupied.

If he meets with the Rebels he'll be pretty high on Vader's hit list. It'll have to be a private meeting. Perhaps someone disguised as a family member could visit to discuss terms if Attaca agrees to a meeting?

Ascoobis wrote:If he meets with the Rebels he'll be pretty high on Vader's hit list. It'll have to be a private meeting. Perhaps someone disguised as a family member could visit to discuss terms if Attaca agrees to a meeting?

That's why it would have to be in secret. Also, Attaca would not be the one requesting a meeting, that would simply be too dangerous. Oh yeah, I will add this: Attaca has an 11 year old son. (Treland Attaca)

Democratic East-Asia wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:So it would only be positions in this Oversector(I believe 13 it was) that may be at least more vulnerable to attack?

Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.

Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?

Democratic East-Asia wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:If he meets with the Rebels he'll be pretty high on Vader's hit list. It'll have to be a private meeting. Perhaps someone disguised as a family member could visit to discuss terms if Attaca agrees to a meeting?

That's why it would have to be in secret. Also, Attaca would not be the one requesting a meeting, that would simply be too dangerous. Oh yeah, I will add this: Attaca has an 11 year old son. (Treland Attaca)

Yes, a Private meeting which would be requested of Attaca is what I was referring to. Is this son(Or friends of) sympathetic to the other factions? Much like the American Civil War(And any other come to think of it), I would expect this war to also split the loyalties of whole families. Splintering and pitting them against one another.

Ascoobis wrote:

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.

Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?

Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.

So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.

Ascoobis wrote:Yes, a Private meeting which would be requested of Attaca is what I was referring to. Is this son(Or friends of) sympathetic to the other factions? Much like the American Civil War(And any other come to think of it), I would expect this war to also split the loyalties of whole families. Splintering and pitting them against one another.

His son is currently being taught in a private academy, but Attaca does have considerable influence over him. Most of his friends would've been born during the final years of the Republic, but they were really too young to understand. Treland's similar to his father: optimistic, outgoing, and kind. He's still a kid though, and doesn't understand the full extent of the Empire's rule.

Ascoobis wrote:

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.

Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?

All known Hyperspace routes periodically pass through star systems, and since the galaxy is very much like a flat disk, maneuvering through hyperspace is an essentially 2-dimensional action. So unless a hyperspace route that travels over the galaxy from one half of Confederacy territory to the other (or passes through deep space without intersecting existing routes and star systems) is discovered, you really can't do that.

ANy Jedi want to have met Lomann before Order 66?

The V O I D wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?

Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.

So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.

Ah yes. The characteristics and physics of the hyperspace lanes make the concept of borders applicable in space. At least intergalactic borders make sense to me now.

The V O I D wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?

Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.

So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.

That actually explains a lot.

Is it not possible to just go through enemy territory while in hyperspace though? What's stopping them from just bypassing enemy systems?

Democratic East-Asia wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:Yes, a Private meeting which would be requested of Attaca is what I was referring to. Is this son(Or friends of) sympathetic to the other factions? Much like the American Civil War(And any other come to think of it), I would expect this war to also split the loyalties of whole families. Splintering and pitting them against one another.

His son is currently being taught in a private academy, but Attaca does have considerable influence over him. Most of his friends would've been born during the final years of the Republic, but they were really too young to understand. Treland's similar to his father: optimistic, outgoing, and kind. He's still a kid though, and doesn't understand the full extent of the Empire's rule.

Do you agree with the Star Destroyer being called the Instiller?

Kulonia wrote:ANy Jedi want to have met Lomann before Order 66?

I'm up for Nabhak knowing him. Nabhak's long-term goal at the start of the IC will be rebuilding the Jedi through finding the Jedi who went into hiding after Order 66 and finding new Force-sensitives to recruit, so he could be the one who discovers him on Ord Mantell.

Speaking of Jedi knowing each other, Grand Franc, I think Nabhak and Orus would have been friends, considering they were both scholars and researchers of ancient cultures. Nabhak mostly stayed at the temple because of his duties on the Council of First Knowledge, but I'm sure they would have had lots to talk about whenever Orus and Riyal returned to Coruscant.

Arana wrote:

The V O I D wrote:
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.

So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.

That actually explains a lot.

Is it not possible to just go through enemy territory while in hyperspace though? What's stopping them from just bypassing enemy systems?

Hyperspace Lanes have entrances and exits, I believe; although, one can immediately jump from one Lane to another almost-instantaneously.

Also, strong enough gravity wells can force you out of a Hyperspace Lane, even if 'passing by'; and Interdictor-class Star Destroyers (only a few experimental ones built as of yet) have the necessary gravity wells to do so. Position some Interdictors in the path of the only three Lanes into Core territory (I know there's more than three, but hypothetically) and you essentially keep everyone inside the Core in, and everyone outside the Core out - because they can't pass by as they'll be caught in the grav-fields and then be subsequently obliterated by the guarding/patrolling Imperial fleet.

There's not much stopping you from going through enemy systems until Interdictors are mass-produced, and even then you can try, but the farther from friendly space you go, the harder to get resupply and reinforcements it is. It becomes more and more a war of attrition if you attempt something like this.

Ascoobis wrote:

The V O I D wrote:
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.

So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.

Ah yes. The characteristics and physics of the hyperspace lanes make the concept of borders applicable in space. At least intergalactic borders make sense to me now.

Yep. Hyperspace Lanes are weird like that, but that's the fastest way to travel. Even then, it can take a few days IIRC depending on where you're going from where due to having to change Hyperspace lanes and such.

Zanera wrote:Do you agree with the Star Destroyer being called the Instiller?

Sure, your character's ship is up to you.

The V O I D wrote:

Zanera wrote:
So my Star Destroyer gets to fight a major battle with Darth Vader's fleet?
Only thing missing from my happy place is Vader's armor. This is such a depressing line of divergence.

Vader is perfectly fine without the armor. Armored Vader was bad because you couldn't tell what he was thinking or feeling.

Suitless Vader is worse because not only can you see his eyes and face, but if you cross him, the last thing you'll see are his piercing molten yellow-red eyes and a flash of lightning.

Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.

When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.

Zanera wrote:

The V O I D wrote:
Vader is perfectly fine without the armor. Armored Vader was bad because you couldn't tell what he was thinking or feeling.

Suitless Vader is worse because not only can you see his eyes and face, but if you cross him, the last thing you'll see are his piercing molten yellow-red eyes and a flash of lightning.

Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.

When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.

Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.

That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).

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The V O I D wrote:

Zanera wrote:
Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.

When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.

Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.

That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).

But he still looks like Hayden Christensen, and that's not doing his intimidation factor any favors

Brusia wrote:

The V O I D wrote:
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.

That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).

But he still looks like Hayden Christensen, and that's not doing his intimidation factor any favors

if you saw the picture I used, yes, but look at his molten red-orange eyes and stuff.

I'm also tempted to say he wears his hair more 'professionally' (i.e. slicked back or cut shorter). There's also the matter of the fact he can kill you to death with his mind or summon lightning from literally nowhere and kill you to death with that.

That, alone, is intimidating.

Utceforp wrote:

Kulonia wrote:ANy Jedi want to have met Lomann before Order 66?

I'm up for Nabhak knowing him. Nabhak's long-term goal at the start of the IC will be rebuilding the Jedi through finding the Jedi who went into hiding after Order 66 and finding new Force-sensitives to recruit, so he could be the one who discovers him on Ord Mantell.

Speaking of Jedi knowing each other, Grand Franc, I think Nabhak and Orus would have been friends, considering they were both scholars and researchers of ancient cultures. Nabhak mostly stayed at the temple because of his duties on the Council of First Knowledge, but I'm sure they would have had lots to talk about whenever Orus and Riyal returned to Coruscant.

Ok. I'm down with this idea. I'll have Lomann send Nabhak a message through his astromech droid. Then, he can help Nabhak find the remaining Jedi.

The V O I D wrote:

Zanera wrote:
Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.

When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.

Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.

That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).

That's one way to ensure that he's surrounded by competent people....

Is there some sort of Sith/Imperial uniform that he's going to wear? He's a part of a professional military after all. At least a Palpatine-esque cloak?

Ascoobis wrote:

The V O I D wrote:
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.

That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).

That's ensure that he's surrounded by competent people.

Is there some sort of Sith/Imperial uniform that he's going to wear? He's a part of a professional military after all. At least a Palpatine-esque cloak?

He'd probably wear a Darth Maul-style outfit.

Brusia wrote:But he still looks like Hayden Christensen, and that's not doing his intimidation factor any favors

Well, Vader be Vader. It'll be different when you're the one on his bad side.

My guy, on the other hand, looks like some typical asian.