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[Zepplien]

In regards to Vertibirds, they are not pre-war arrifacts. They were made by the Enclave and we're only completed after the great war. F4 is silly with having them fly around in the pre-war sequence.

Source: Many playthroughs of F2.

Also I should have a post up soon but I have to finish a bit of dusting.

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

True, they are incredibly expensive to build, maintain, and operate (By post war standards) compared to just refurbishing cars, or even APCs.

Also, who owns Nuka World, and would they like to set up some sort of cross country trading arrangement so I can get that sweet, sweet cola?

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering he is the Enclave.

*Indicates Oil Rig and Navarro* I think a few people can claim Enclave status, given how the US government didn't have unity in this AH

[Intermountain States]

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering they are the Enclave.

A nicer Enclave.

But not having Vertibirds wouldn't screw with my stuff that much since the only mention of Vertibirds regarding Texas are only in my application and I've yet to have some character flying around in an aircraft (don't take away my bicycles though)

[Pacific Brotherhood of Steel]

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

True, they are incredibly expensive to build, maintain, and operate (By post war standards) compared to just refurbishing cars, or even APCs.

Also, who owns Nuka World, and would they like to set up some sort of cross country trading arrangement so I can get that sweet, sweet cola?

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering he is the Enclave.

*Indicates Oil Rig and Navarro* I think a few people can claim Enclave status, given how the US government didn't have unity in this AH

F4 is not canon.

Many can claim it but is it honestly true? Yeah I could see you having them.

But here is the even bigger problem. Vertibirds run on gas. They were never made to run off fusion because the prototypes were made with fuel in mind. So consider that.

[The Traansval]

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering they are the Enclave.

Well The United States of America (The new guy) is supposed to be based around the surviving Government, so would they have em?

Also, Prototypes were made, so would i have them due to me owning multiple Pre-War bases such as Trenton and more importantly West Point?

[Pacific Brotherhood of Steel]

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering they are the Enclave.

Well The United States of America (The new guy) is supposed to be based around the surviving Government, so would they have em?

Also, Prototypes were made, so would i have them due to me owning multiple Pre-War bases such as Trenton and more importantly West Point?

There are two confirmed locations with prototypes in use. Anchorage due to Operation Anchorage. And one destroyed one on top of the Mueseum of History in DC. All other Vertibirds were located with the Enclave.

[The Traansval]

Well The United States of America (The new guy) is supposed to be based around the surviving Government, so would they have em?

Also, Prototypes were made, so would i have them due to me owning multiple Pre-War bases such as Trenton and more importantly West Point?

There are two confirmed locations with prototypes in use. Anchorage due to Operation Anchorage. And one destroyed one on top of the Mueseum of History in DC. All other Vertibirds were located with the Enclave.

Wouldn't places like West Point, which was a major military institution, have blueprints and plans for Vertibirds?

[Zepplien]

True, they are incredibly expensive to build, maintain, and operate (By post war standards) compared to just refurbishing cars, or even APCs.

Also, who owns Nuka World, and would they like to set up some sort of cross country trading arrangement so I can get that sweet, sweet cola?


*Indicates Oil Rig and Navarro* I think a few people can claim Enclave status, given how the US government didn't have unity in this AH

F4 is not canon.

Many can claim it but is it honestly true? Yeah I could see you having them.

But here is the even bigger problem. Vertibirds run on gas. They were never made to run off fusion because the prototypes were made with fuel in mind. So consider that.

Is Fallout 4 really not cannon? I mean, we have a ton of things from Fallout 4 in this RP. All I want is some damn Cola

Indeed, that is a problem I have been considering as well. I am sure they could eventually be converted to run on microfusion if given enough time (I would assume that is what the NCR did, as they have zero oil)

[Pacific Brotherhood of Steel]

There are two confirmed locations with prototypes in use. Anchorage due to Operation Anchorage. And one destroyed one on top of the Mueseum of History in DC. All other Vertibirds were located with the Enclave.

Wouldn't places like West Point, which was a major military institution, have blueprints and plans for Vertibirds?

I can't make that call. That's up to Waz. In my opinion? Maybe. Major facilities that were government owned research hubs I could see. West Point was an academy for officers though. So I wouldn't see it having plans for a top secret government aircraft. Mariposa and Area 51 would be likely.

[The Traansval]

Wouldn't places like West Point, which was a major military institution, have blueprints and plans for Vertibirds?

I can't make that call. That's up to Waz. In my opinion? Maybe. Major facilities that were government owned research hubs I could see. West Point was an academy for officers though. So I wouldn't see it having plans for a top secret government aircraft. Mariposa and Area 51 would be likely.

An Academy would have archives though. And it wasn't exactly "Top Secret", look at this quote from the Vertibird wiki page

Despite never entering full-service, numerous models were disseminated into various federal and private applications, and saw use in armed conflicts across the globe.

[Pacific Brotherhood of Steel]

I can't make that call. That's up to Waz. In my opinion? Maybe. Major facilities that were government owned research hubs I could see. West Point was an academy for officers though. So I wouldn't see it having plans for a top secret government aircraft. Mariposa and Area 51 would be likely.

An Academy would have archives though. And it wasn't exactly "Top Secret", look at this quote from the Vertibird wiki page

Despite never entering full-service, numerous models were disseminated into various federal and private applications, and saw use in armed conflicts across the globe.

That's why I said I can't make the call. I'm in no position of power here. I'm just giving my substantiated opinion.

[The Traansval]

Also, here is another discussion, what would be the boundaries of our Maritime Power?

Now obviously there will be no long range deep water vessels, but what would be the extent of a nations Trade and Military power at sea? I'm considering creating a couple fleets of guns boats, one for the Great lakes and one for the Hudson River. Can we construct boats, or do they have to be pre-war salvaged boats?

[Halium]

How would exploration parties work?

I send five soldiers and hope they don't die?

[The Traansval]

How would exploration parties work?

I send five soldiers and hope they don't die?

Change that to 20-30, and i'd say pretty much. We have Radio's, but they don't have long range.

[Halium]

How would exploration parties work?

I send five soldiers and hope they don't die?

Change that to 20-30, and i'd say pretty much. We have Radio's, but they don't have long range.

Kay, I'm probably just gonna send peeps down the Hudson River, after that I think I'm gonna go back North-West

[The Traansval]

Change that to 20-30, and i'd say pretty much. We have Radio's, but they don't have long range.

Kay, I'm probably just gonna send peeps down the Hudson River, after that I think I'm gonna go back North-West

You send them there, your gonna find me

Maybe we can ally.

[Prusslandia]

Still, there shouldn't be hundreds of em flying through the air...

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering they are the Enclave.

*Looks at my history*

Welp, I think I quailify as Enclave as well.

Additionally, I doubt that it would be difficult to engineer fusion engines for Verti-Birds over a few generations, especially because this is an AH RP. I digress, however.

Also, I need to get some stuff down about muh calvalry.

[The Traansval]

That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone should honestly have them minus the Concord of Stars considering they are the Enclave.

*Looks at my history*

Welp, I think I quailify as Enclave as well.

Additionally, I doubt that it would be difficult to engineer fusion engines for Verti-Birds over a few generations, especially because this is an AH RP. I digress, however.

Also, I need to get some stuff down about muh calvalry.

Cavalry? What are they gonna ride, Brahmin?

[Prusslandia]

*Looks at my history*

Welp, I think I quailify as Enclave as well.

Additionally, I doubt that it would be difficult to engineer fusion engines for Verti-Birds over a few generations, especially because this is an AH RP. I digress, however.

Also, I need to get some stuff down about muh calvalry.

Cavalry? What are they gonna ride, Brahmin?

Horses? Seeing as how nothing after the Great War is canon, a small amount of horses should be fine.

[The Traansval]

Kay, I'm probably just gonna send peeps down the Hudson River, after that I think I'm gonna go back North-West

You send them there, your gonna find me

Maybe we can ally.

Actually Nevermind, your in the boundary of New York State.

I'm going to make a story where later on, they discover a map that has boundaries of pre-war States, and the New York Government goes on a expansion to claim all of the former state of New York.

Therefor, you will most likely be assimilated into the Republic Through negotiation, or force...

[The Traansval]

Cavalry? What are they gonna ride, Brahmin?

Horses? Seeing as how nothing after the Great War is canon, a small amount of horses should be fine.

How the fuck would Horses survive? The World would have been blanketed in a Nuclear Winter, not to mention the radiation. They would have had to have mutated, so the question is how did they mutate, and can they still be tamed?

[Halium]

You send them there, your gonna find me

Maybe we can ally.

Actually Nevermind, your in the boundary of New York State.

I'm going to make a story where later on, they discover a map that has boundaries of pre-war States, and the New York Government goes on a expansion to claim all of the former state of New York.

Therefor, you will most likely be assimilated into the Republic Through negotiation, or force...

I'm still gonna send them down there, because I need my guys to know who's around them.

Also, you wanna figt through the mountains for a couple small population towns, but very well armed be my guest

[Prusslandia]

Horses? Seeing as how nothing after the Great War is canon, a small amount of horses should be fine.

How the fuck would Horses survive? The World would have been blanketed in a Nuclear Winter, not to mention the radiation. They would have had to have mutated, so the question is how did they mutate, and can they still be tamed?

I'm assuming something similar to Brahim, or Radstags- Two headed, ugly as hell monstrosities. And through the usual methods of domesticating a horse, though with greater severity perhaps.

Also, heres what I have so far for my outposts. I'll add more in a bit.

Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana
Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, Georgia
Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana
Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada
Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota
F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming
Fort Collins, Colorado
Fort Shafter, Hawaii
Fort Riley, Kansas
Fort Custer, Michigan
Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri
Quantico, Virginia
Hawthorne Army Depot, Nevada
Fort Campbell, Tennesse-Kentucky border

[Prusslandia]

Also, just realized that a few of the bases I nabbed have nuclear missiles... I'll probably just use them as power, but holding onto a few to deal with any problematic sorts would be nice...

[The Traansval]

Actually Nevermind, your in the boundary of New York State.

I'm going to make a story where later on, they discover a map that has boundaries of pre-war States, and the New York Government goes on a expansion to claim all of the former state of New York.

Therefor, you will most likely be assimilated into the Republic Through negotiation, or force...

I'm still gonna send them down there, because I need my guys to know who's around them.

Also, you wanna figt through the mountains for a couple small population towns, but very well armed be my guest

Well, i'd prefer to make you a Autonomous State apart of the Republic. You'd have complete control over your own territory, but you'd have to give a certain amount of men to my Army, and also pay my Taxes. In return, you get access to my Trade, Technology, and Protection of my large Army and the Polis Rangers.

[The Traansval]

Also, just realized that a few of the bases I nabbed have nuclear missiles... I'll probably just use them as power, but holding onto a few to deal with any problematic sorts would be nice...

The missiles most likely were launched in the Great War...