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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:13 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Hmm, you are giving me ideas. Maybe... although it might just be an outpost / small city.

Vancouver is just as big as Seattle, and likely didn't get hit, or at least got hit less hard.

Nah. America owned Canada in Fallout. Vancouver was the larger city, and probably got hit just as hard.
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:15 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Hmm, you are giving me ideas. Maybe... although it might just be an outpost / small city.

Vancouver is just as big as Seattle, and likely didn't get hit, or at least got hit less hard.

And mind you, fallout nukes were not huge ICBMS. 200-750 kilotons were the nukes we are working with. A great way to play with landing zones and get a damage estimate from areas hit would be this:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

I recommend selecting the W-88 as a good mix between values, and use that to plot out damage and initial causalities when the great war hit. Maybe that can help give you radiation estimates, damage, and even help with population.

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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:17 pm

Waztaskio wrote:And mind you, fallout nukes were not huge ICBMS. 200-750 kilotons were the nukes we are working with. A great way to play with landing zones and get a damage estimate from areas hit would be this:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

I recommend selecting the W-88 as a good mix between values, and use that to plot out damage and initial causalities when the great war hit. Maybe that can help give you radiation estimates, damage, and even help with population.

Mind the fact that the USA's first H-bomb test yielded 10 megatons. (1952, Ivy Mike). Then again ICBMs never really used huge multi-megaton nukes.
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Monarchy of Japanada
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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:17 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Monarchy of Japanada wrote:Vancouver is just as big as Seattle, and likely didn't get hit, or at least got hit less hard.

Nah. America owned Canada in Fallout. Vancouver was the larger city, and probably got hit just as hard.

603,500 people are in Vancouver. 652,405 are in Seattle.

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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:19 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Nah. America owned Canada in Fallout. Vancouver was the larger city, and probably got hit just as hard.

603,500 people are in Vancouver. 652,405 are in Seattle.

Vancouver is also half Asian [Most commie Asian city outside of Asia.] Less than half of the population is white.
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Waztaskio
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:27 pm

Glad to see that this idea of mine seems to be rather popular. Maybe I'm tapping into something here.

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Intermountain States
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Postby Intermountain States » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:30 pm

If it's a large city, it's probably going to get hit since Canada was annexed by the US in the Fallout universe
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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:31 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Glad to see that this idea of mine seems to be rather popular. Maybe I'm tapping into something here.

How big could my military be at max? Ronto is referenced to be a in the lore as a strong military power [Even though this is non-canon, still]

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New Minahasa
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Postby New Minahasa » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:32 pm

Faction/Nation Name: The Concord of Stars; The Star Concord: The Concord.
Faction/Nation Territory: The Concord controls a few scattered outposts and military bases outside the vault.
Capital City/Faction HQ: Vault 122.
Population: 1,500.
Government: Totalitarianism. Democracy is an illusion to the people, and the power-in-control seeks to keep it that way. While the people may have freedom of speech, those who do not agree with the government is secretly handled with.
Leaders: President Otto Cannon.
National/Group Ideology: Totalitarian democracy.
Military: 900 highly-trained group of soldiers, equipped with the finest weaponry and armoury provided by the government. All of them wear an advanced power armour called the T-70 Mk. II power armour, designed and engineered by the scientists of the Concord. They also have in control about 50 vertibirds scattered across their outposts and hidden bases in the states.
Major Towns or Locations: Sierra Army Depot, CA; Fort Sill, OK; Fort Drum, NY.
History: In 2054, a project known as "Project Safehouse' was commisioned by the U.S. government. The project had intended to build 122 vaults across the states by the Vault-Tec Corporation. But in the following year, the government had also created a treaty with Vault-Tec. The last of the vaults, Vault 122, would be built only for the most valuable personnels of the U.S. government, including the president himself. The treaty was known as the "Concord of Stars". Vault-Tec agreed, and the vault was built in Wichita, KS. The vault itself was huge, and inside contained vertibirds and military vehicles. In 2077 as China and USA declared war against each other, all of the nearby personnels were immediately directed to the vault. Most of the people managed to get in, but a handful unfortunate souls were left behind, including the president. The vault was filled with all sorts of people; military, scientists, and engineers. Resources were plentiful, as how it should be. General Garrett Lynn, the only high-ranked military personnel to survive in the vault, quickly put himself in charge of the vault and the people inside. Power hungry, he immediately declared himself the new president of the United States. Twenty years after the Great War, the vault door opened. Vertibirds and soldiers were sent out to recover strategic positions, and soon the Concord of Stars, taken from the treaty name, was built.
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:33 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
Waztaskio wrote:Glad to see that this idea of mine seems to be rather popular. Maybe I'm tapping into something here.

How big could my military be at max? Ronto is referenced to be a in the lore as a strong military power [Even though this is non-canon, still]

Well, remember the rule for standing armies is generally no more then 1% of the population. 4% in cases of conscription, as if you need to go over that you're economy is going to feel some repercussions. So just divide 1% of your population for your max military.

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Postby Rygondria » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:34 pm

Tijuna eh, Mexican republic is going to have a good time fighting you.

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Intermountain States
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Postby Intermountain States » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:36 pm

I wonder how my military would go since I'm planning on using Securitrons from Fallout New Vegas as my standing army.
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Zhaas123
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Postby Zhaas123 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:36 pm

Faction/Nation Name: Order of The Burning Eagle
Faction/Nation Territory: Washington D.C the States of Maryland, Delaware, Both Virginians
[b]Capital City/Faction HQ: D.C

Population: 125,000 people
Government: Government is led by a council of Masters each one is in charge of administrative and military business in an area of the Order. Leader of the Grand Council is Know as the Grand Master
Leaders: Grand Master Blake Cooper leader of the Order and Commander of the Knights. Master Samantha Baxter Overseer of Salvage operations.
Master Alex Johnston Overseer of Agriculture and Settlement. Master Jamie Dawson Overseer of Diplomatic Corps

National/Group Ideology: Uniting and protecting the people of the former United States form the horrors of the Wasteland. Eradicating all dangerous mutant life, Ghouls, F.E.V Mutants, ETC. Believes Communism is the largest force of evil in the Wasteland.
Military: The Military is divide into several different Factions. The Regulars: Equipped with assault rifles, 10mm pistols and stranded issue combat armor. initiate: Men and women new to the military wing of the order, they make do with reinforced leather armor, hunting rifles, shotguns, and any other weapons they can find. Calvary: A small group they ride the few cars and motorcycles restored to working order and act mainly as scout. Knghits: The Elite of the order armed with top of the line gear and with power armor, or other pre-war gear, the small amount of the warriors are only deployed in the most dangerous situations. Hunters: armed with sniper rifles and without armor they are meant to sneak behind enemy lines and take out high-profile targets. over all military strength 1,875 men Power Armor 25 suits model T-45d power armor
Major Towns or Locations: Most of the towns outside of the Capital Wasteland are still small farming settlements the focus of the order has been on the military since its founding.
History: The Order got its start 75 years after the end of the world during the year of 2152, a man by the name of David Cooper had just lost his family to a raider attack on his farm. The survivors regrouped nearby where one of the kids found a hidden bunker. Inside they found pre-war weapons, armor, and even a suit of power armor. Although the they couldn't use the power armor yet, they could certainly use the weapons. the group of 12 armed themselves and set out, within a day they had found the raiders that attacked them and what was left of the people they took. The fight was hard and of the 12 that entered only 7 were left standing when it was done, but they one the raiders were dead now it was time to find the living, and count the dead. David found that his son was still alive, they and the rest of the townsfolk left to go back and pick up their lives. But David never forgot the weapons in the base or the power armor, it took months back one day David walked back into his village wearing that suit of power armor. It was that day the order was formed though it didn't bare the name yet. The order was able to unite the people of the Capital Wasteland and fought a bloody war of extermination against the raiders, slavers, and mutants. David would not live to see the end of it he died leading the final assault on the slavers of paradise falls. His son would take up the post of Grand Master a positions the Coopers hold to this day. (How did your nation or group come to be?)
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Postby New Minahasa » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:37 pm

Waztaskio wrote:
Monarchy of Japanada wrote:How big could my military be at max? Ronto is referenced to be a in the lore as a strong military power [Even though this is non-canon, still]

Well, remember the rule for standing armies is generally no more then 1% of the population. 4% in cases of conscription, as if you need to go over that you're economy is going to feel some repercussions. So just divide 1% of your population for your max military.

Oh no. My military's about 55k Super Mutants and Nightkin. Should I just decrease the numbers? Cuz logically all of the Super Mutants and Nightkin would act as soldiers.

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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:39 pm

Waztaskio wrote:
Monarchy of Japanada wrote:How big could my military be at max? Ronto is referenced to be a in the lore as a strong military power [Even though this is non-canon, still]

Well, remember the rule for standing armies is generally no more then 1% of the population. 4% in cases of conscription, as if you need to go over that you're economy is going to feel some repercussions. So just divide 1% of your population for your max military.

The NCR had around 700,000 people but had a large military, likely bigger than 28 000 which is 4% of 700,000. I'm conflicted whether to making Ronto or a medium sized bandit group called the Highwaymen patrolling around and in Columbus, Ohio.

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Postby Walrusvylon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:41 pm

"War never changes" is one of the stupidest things that I have ever heard. Just think about how much war has changed over the course of human history: At one point war was cavemen stabbing each other with sticks, then it was knights in shining armor, then trench warfare, machine guns, and now nuclear warfare, in the near future drones, and far from now it will be killer robots and giant space lasers. It's actually quite amazing and also terrifying.
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:43 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:
Waztaskio wrote:Well, remember the rule for standing armies is generally no more then 1% of the population. 4% in cases of conscription, as if you need to go over that you're economy is going to feel some repercussions. So just divide 1% of your population for your max military.

The NCR had around 700,000 people but had a large military, likely bigger than 28 000 which is 4% of 700,000. I'm conflicted whether to making Ronto or a medium sized bandit group called the Highwaymen patrolling around and in Columbus, Ohio.

I don't know about that. The NCR was pretty powerful and really didn't face a foe that required more manpower until they met Caesars Legion. And even that force wasn't huge, as they had problems controlling the Mojave due to limited troops. I agree they had a large military, but I highly doubt it went over 28,000. Doubt it even reached 20,000. NCR was mostly kept to itself during the long rule of Tandi, and only really had one really ambitious president being Kimbell. The rest were...so-so's. Little their, little here. And keep in mind the NCR army was a mix between conscripts and volunteers. So I'm sure they always kept the conscripts to have a limited force always around, but the volunteers just added ontop of that. I just can't see the NCR going higher then 28,000 in the scenarios it was presented with. Maybe...12,000 at best.

Walrusvylon wrote:"War never changes" is one of the stupidest things that I have ever heard. Just think about how much war has changed over the course of human history: At one point war was cavemen stabbing each other with sticks, then it was knights in shining armor, then trench warfare, machine guns, and now nuclear warfare, in the near future drones, and far from now it will be killer robots and giant space lasers. It's actually quite amazing and also terrifying.

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Postby Intermountain States » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:44 pm

Walrusvylon wrote:"War never changes" is one of the stupidest things that I have ever heard. Just think about how much war has changed over the course of human history: At one point war was cavemen stabbing each other with sticks, then it was knights in shining armor, then trench warfare, machine guns, and now nuclear warfare, in the near future drones, and far from now it will be killer robots and giant space lasers. It's actually quite amazing and also terrifying.

That's nice dear.
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Monarchy of Japanada
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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:44 pm

Walrusvylon wrote:"War never changes" is one of the stupidest things that I have ever heard. Just think about how much war has changed over the course of human history: At one point war was cavemen stabbing each other with sticks, then it was knights in shining armor, then trench warfare, machine guns, and now nuclear warfare, in the near future drones, and far from now it will be killer robots and giant space lasers. It's actually quite amazing and also terrifying.

They mean the fact its all the same in concept. The whole thing about wars are just about killing and crap.

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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:45 pm

New Minahasa wrote:
Waztaskio wrote:Well, remember the rule for standing armies is generally no more then 1% of the population. 4% in cases of conscription, as if you need to go over that you're economy is going to feel some repercussions. So just divide 1% of your population for your max military.

Oh no. My military's about 55k Super Mutants and Nightkin. Should I just decrease the numbers? Cuz logically all of the Super Mutants and Nightkin would act as soldiers.

55k Super Mutants is REALLY too high. The Master only probably had like 2,000 at best, and that's extremely generous. And those numbers included nightkin. Cause a lot of his experiments ended in failure, and why The Master had to get pure humans for his experiments.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:47 pm

Im very interested in this, since Fallout is one of my favorite game franchises out there.

Im hoping to make a nation in Louisiana. Has someone else already started that? I dont want to steal anyone's idea if they have.
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:47 pm

The Twelve Isles wrote:Im very interested in this, since Fallout is one of my favorite game franchises out there.

Im hoping to make a nation in Louisiana. Has someone else already started that? I dont want to steal anyone's idea if they have.

Nope. Go for it.

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Postby Monarchy of Japanada » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:48 pm

Would a small, 5 man exploration crew count as a faction?

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Postby The Twelve Isles » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:48 pm

Waztaskio wrote:
The Twelve Isles wrote:Im very interested in this, since Fallout is one of my favorite game franchises out there.

Im hoping to make a nation in Louisiana. Has someone else already started that? I dont want to steal anyone's idea if they have.

Nope. Go for it.


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I should have an app up tonight.
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:49 pm

Monarchy of Japanada wrote:Would a small, 5 man exploration crew count as a faction?

Define exploration crew?

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