1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][REBOOT]

[Tracian Empire]

Out of curiosity are you using Modern Day figures?

Nope. With modern day figures, Ethiopia would have much more than the 7.36 million it had in 1890 (there's another estimate given for 11.435 million).

With Ethiopia at 5.2 million, I get 14.941 million. Forget the coastal migrations, because Sanabel is still lowering the numbers for some areas on purpose.

My state-operated army then is under 2% (just under) at around 280 thousand, and I have room for the 350,000 mercenary troops thanks to funding. I'll edit the numbers, which are confusing, and make it seem like I have nearly a million soldiers >_> I hate wording

You do know that you won't be constantly able to support 350,000 mercenaries, right?

[Seinlo]

Nope. With modern day figures, Ethiopia would have much more than the 7.36 million it had in 1890 (there's another estimate given for 11.435 million).

With Ethiopia at 5.2 million, I get 14.941 million. Forget the coastal migrations, because Sanabel is still lowering the numbers for some areas on purpose.

My state-operated army then is under 2% (just under) at around 280 thousand, and I have room for the 350,000 mercenary troops thanks to funding. I'll edit the numbers, which are confusing, and make it seem like I have nearly a million soldiers >_> I hate wording

But you don't have all of Ethiopia, and you have the least populous areas of the country. And I am not lowering the numbers.

That military seems a bit big, tbh

Fine. I cut my population, but I still don't trust Sanabel's stats, simply because he doesn't like me. They're also off, if you actually look at populstat.

I don't like you? What are you talking about?

Chill, man.

I tjink having me banned from an RP group because you don't like my use of emoji means you don't like me. I don't know if you told Danish to ban mebecause of that, but you're the one that brought it up when there was nothing wrong with anything I was doing.

[Seinlo]

2% of the 9.59 million Sanabel got is 191,800 (the army will probably be less, tbh). If I'm doing the samething I did earlier, then I'll have 200,000 or 225,000 mercs, most of which will be on hold, or something... now I need to figure out the number of infantry and cavalry divisions.

[Sanabel]

But you don't have all of Ethiopia, and you have the least populous areas of the country. And I am not lowering the numbers.

That military seems a bit big, tbh

I don't like you? What are you talking about?

Chill, man.

I tjink having me banned from an RP group because you don't like my use of emoji means you don't like me. I don't know if you told Danish to ban mebecause of that, but you're the one that brought it up when there was nothing wrong with anything I was doing.

I requested that you use less, since it was irking people. You flipped out, so you got banned.

It has nothing to do with me liking you or not liking you. If you had been more receptive to a simple request you'd still be in there.

2% of the 9.59 million Sanabel got is 191,800. If I'm doing the samething I did earlier, then I'll have 200,000 or 225,000 mercs, most of which will be on hold, or something... now I need to figure out the number of infantry and cavalry divisions.

That's not shabby. That's well over half the size of the Cambrian military.

[Sanabel]

But you don't have all of Ethiopia, and you have the least populous areas of the country. And I am not lowering the numbers.

That military seems a bit big, tbh

I don't like you? What are you talking about?

Chill, man.

I tjink having me banned from an RP group because you don't like my use of emoji means you don't like me. I don't know if you told Danish to ban mebecause of that, but you're the one that brought it up when there was nothing wrong with anything I was doing.

Also, that's really not something to discuss here.

[Tracian Empire]

2% of the 9.59 million Sanabel got is 191,800 (the army will probably be less, tbh). If I'm doing the samething I did earlier, then I'll have 200,000 or 225,000 mercs, most of which will be on hold, or something... now I need to figure out the number of infantry and cavalry divisions.

You do know how mercanries work, right? You can't keep them "on hold" You hire them, they kill, you pay, they leave.

[The V O I D]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

[Tracian Empire]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

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Most nations here despise it.

Eastern Rome was among the first to ban slavery.

[The V O I D]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

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Most nations here despise it.

Eastern Rome was among the first to ban slavery.

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

[Seinlo]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

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Most nations here despise it.

Eastern Rome was among the first to ban slavery.

Even Yemen got rid of slavery, and it has been a major component of tje culture of Muslim nations, historically. Here, it never played as big of a role.

[Elerian]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

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It'll probably still be a thing in India.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Ok, does anyone know the Korean history, or have links for it?

[Tracian Empire]

Most nations here despise it.

Eastern Rome was among the first to ban slavery.

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

Well then, Rome will dislike it.

And I pray for your slave traders not to touch Roman citizens because it would end badly for them.

[Tracian Empire]

Ok, does anyone know the Korean history, or have links for it?

Theoretically, Korea is taken by Oscal.

[Seinlo]

2% of the 9.59 million Sanabel got is 191,800 (the army will probably be less, tbh). If I'm doing the samething I did earlier, then I'll have 200,000 or 225,000 mercs, most of which will be on hold, or something... now I need to figure out the number of infantry and cavalry divisions.

You do know how mercanries work, right? You can't keep them "on hold" You hire them, they kill, you pay, they leave.

Yes, I know. I'm tired, and that's not what I meant to typs. I have to retype posts a lot. I meant to type that a lot are deployed outside of Yemen/Arabia.

Earlier, I statted typing random words that had nothing to do with what I wanted to talk about because I got distracted. :/ I'm silly

Okay, the military is to be smaller, as is the population, in my next update.

[Seinlo]

Since we never established whether or not slavery is still a thing (correct me if I'm wrong)...

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It'll probably still be a thing in India.

Is India a friend of mine, or no?

[Novacom]

Most nations here despise it.

Eastern Rome was among the first to ban slavery.

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

Where would these slaves be from? Very few European Colonies in this timeline so a very small amount of slaves to begin with...

[The V O I D]

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

Well then, Rome will dislike it.

And I pray for your slave traders not to touch Roman citizens because it would end badly for them.

Yeah. Of course, if Rome and Italia merge into the Italian-Roman Empire, the Romans can actually do something about weeding out the corruption and such in Rural Italia.

Perhaps Imperial Princess Valentina brings it up with the Emperor of East-Rome after he gets coronated, requesting that he talk to her father to try and convince him to do something about the corruption on the slave front?

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

Where would these slaves be from? Very few European Colonies in this timeline so a very small amount of slaves to begin with...

Some would be abducted from Africa by slave traders, but most would be the poor/criminals of rural regions in Italia, especially non-Italians (such as Croatians, who were assimilated, among others).

[Elerian]

It'll probably still be a thing in India.

Is India a friend of mine, or no?

Depends. Its an Islamic Caliphate, and it isn't clear what sect of Islam your nation is.

[Tracian Empire]

Well then, Rome will dislike it.

And I pray for your slave traders not to touch Roman citizens because it would end badly for them.

Yeah. Of course, if Rome and Italia merge into the Italian-Roman Empire, the Romans can actually do something about weeding out the corruption and such in Rural Italia.

Perhaps Imperial Princess Valentina brings it up with the Emperor of East-Rome after he gets coronated, requesting that he talk to her father to try and convince him to do something about the corruption on the slave front?

Where would these slaves be from? Very few European Colonies in this timeline so a very small amount of slaves to begin with...

Some would be abducted from Africa by slave traders, but most would be the poor/criminals of rural regions in Italia, especially non-Italians (such as Croatians, who were assimilated, among others).

That could happen. As I said, human rights are actually deeply rooted in the Roman society. Slavery is frowned upon.

[Novacom]

Well then, Rome will dislike it.

And I pray for your slave traders not to touch Roman citizens because it would end badly for them.

Yeah. Of course, if Rome and Italia merge into the Italian-Roman Empire, the Romans can actually do something about weeding out the corruption and such in Rural Italia.

Perhaps Imperial Princess Valentina brings it up with the Emperor of East-Rome after he gets coronated, requesting that he talk to her father to try and convince him to do something about the corruption on the slave front?

Where would these slaves be from? Very few European Colonies in this timeline so a very small amount of slaves to begin with...

Some would be abducted from Africa by slave traders, but most would be the poor/criminals of rural regions in Italia, especially non-Italians (such as Croatians, who were assimilated, among others).

You are aware that a lot of the African states won't be THAT weak so your likely setting yourself up for diplomatic incidents you are more than welcome to enslave your own people...

[Democratic East-Asia]

Ok, does anyone know the Korean history, or have links for it?

Theoretically, Korea is taken by Oscal.

I need it for South China.

[Intermountain States]

I thought Zostra is doing South China

[Tracian Empire]

I thought Zostra is doing South China

Yep.

[Seinlo]

Italia has an official ban on it, but there's a sort of unofficial "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards rural farmers and the agricultural industry as a whole.

Again showing the corruption of capitalism in the Italian Empire (communism also wants to free the literal slaves).

Where would these slaves be from? Very few European Colonies in this timeline so a very small amount of slaves to begin with...

Unless he bought a lot of slaves some time before 1645 from us.

Is India a friend of mine, or no?

Depends. Its an Islamic Caliphate, and it isn't clear what sect of Islam your nation is.

The sect of Islam is part of its agglomerate culture. After the crusades, my nation's culture took a change towards being friendlier, and now they are fairly peaceful, focused largely on trade, and non-milirant expansionism has more of a focus than militant imperialism, which hasn't taken place for a while (though that may change). We also are losing interest on a claim on the state of Ghujarat as a rival interest in a potential alliance with them rises.

Basicallt, we want to be your friend... Really badly.