1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][REBOOT]

[Trotza]

Wonder if I should claim what's left of Arkansas

Gotta control at least some portion of the Mississippi on both sides.

[Intermountain States]

Wonder if I should claim what's left of Arkansas

Gotta control at least some portion of the Mississippi on both sides.

Manifest Destiny for the Atlantean Empire (or whatever name I decided to make official, could be the Columbian Empire or the United States of Atlantis)

[Trotza]

Gotta control at least some portion of the Mississippi on both sides.

Manifest Destiny for the Atlantean Empire (or whatever name I decided to make official, could be the Columbian Empire or the United States of Atlantis)

Manifest Destiny works a bit better against Indian tribes, as opposed to the Aztec Ascendancy, as it's called.

[Intermountain States]

Manifest Destiny for the Atlantean Empire (or whatever name I decided to make official, could be the Columbian Empire or the United States of Atlantis)

Manifest Destiny works a bit better against Indian tribes, as opposed to the Aztec Ascendancy, as it's called.

Manifest Destiny up north then?

[Tracian Empire]

Assuming that got accepted, PU'ing everything isn't very plausible, certainly not on the scale your thinking of



Southern China WAS mentioned as there being an interest in but nothings been heard for a while, so that is a possibility, South America is also free with even the possibility of a viable Incan Empire as well, the 13 points is a hold over from the old thread, not many people have the extra 3, there are ways to earn more and also ways to lose those bonus points as well *waves event mallet*

I'm not PUing everything. I've only had two PUs. The rest was done through absorbing and/or conquering smaller states. I think I overstated the prominence of PUs, so I apologjze.

I am still personally considering you owning both territory in Africa and in Pakistan impossible.

[Trotza]

Manifest Destiny works a bit better against Indian tribes, as opposed to the Aztec Ascendancy, as it's called.

Manifest Destiny up north then?

A God given right to kill devout Christians? I'd just come up with a new concept to replace it.

[Tracian Empire]

Pre-Application Credits: Danceria played a massive part in helping me come up with this, and I actually have screenshots of stuff I hope makes it into the app, since it’s all really awesome. I was also helped out a lot by the rest of the members, and would like to mention Sanabel and Thrace. This isn’t my best app, but I can assure you that it is certainly my post unique.


Full Nation Name: The Empire of Rasuli-Ghor, AKA the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom
Majority/Official Culture: Most consider themselves Arabian, the Persian-descended ‘Ghurid Muslims’, or a combination of Arabian, ‘Ghurid Muslim’ and some other culture; there is a cultural continuum similar to a dialect continuum, but different in that Madagascar’s culture is about as severe as the differences get (except for those causing rebellions), and there are many shared traits between the cultures
Territorial Core: Yemen, Oman, Socotra island, modern Saudi Arabia, modern U.A.E., modern Bahrain, modern Qatarn, modern Pakistan/whatever else makes up the Kingdom of Ghurid
Territorial Claim: Very strong presences in the Horn of Africa (Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia), with prominent settlements in Zanzibar (parts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi, Mozambique, and Burundi), Reunion island, Kuria Muria island, Masira island, the Seychelles archipelago, the Chagos archipelago, Mauritius and colonies in the African Great Lakes


This. In case it’s not on the map, I have colonies in the African Great Lakes, the Chagos archipelago, the Seychelles archipelago, Mauritius, the Kuria Muria island, Masira island, and Reuinion island. Madagascar also includes Mayotte and the Comoros. I tried to make it so that the Ghurid Kingdom was large enough to offer something to the Rasulid dynasty, but small enough that it was reasonable.
Capital City: Sana’a, Yemen and Quetta, the Ghurid Kingdom
Population: 22,885,700 without Ethiopia and the Ghurid Kingdom, 32,320,700 with Ethiopia and without the Ghurid Kingdom, 32,712,000 with the Ghurid Kingdom and without Ethiopia, 42,147,600 with both

Government Type: Absolutist monarchy accompanied by a rights-granting charter that only the Sultan isn’t required to follow, and democratic- and republican-leaning tendencies in some areas
Government Ideology/Policies: Non-militant expansionism that sometimes escalates into militant expansionism or even imperialism. Many members of society have nationalism or patriotism of some sort for the Sultanate of Yemen in their hearts, but there are some who take it to the extreme and express chauvinism. There are small rebellions however, and not everyone reacts with anger, pointing to the fact that nationalism and patriotism isn’t as important to some people as it is to others (while many have nationalistic or patriotic views, some are less pronounced in their beliefs).
Government Focus: The economy and culture are the largest focuses, but the military is strong as a result of heavy funding, extensive training, closely held ideals, and a mercenary/privateer force working aside them
Head of State: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid-Ghurid Dynasty, Sovereign of the Ghurid Kingdom, Caliph of All Islam
Head of Government: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid-Ghurid Dynasty, Sovereign of the Ghurid Kingdom, Caliph of All Islam
Government Description: The Sultan is the absolute ruler, possessing widespread executive powers. A rights-granting charter, a combination of secular and Roman law, and his Cabinet of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom (the Council of Ministers; it is over double the size it is IRL, as there are Sultan-elected representatives of several areas) aid greatly in his rule. The Sultan sits in on all meetings held by the nation’s parliament, and has final say and veto powers on all laws passed in the nation (and for rules/laws passed on a scale smaller than nation-wide, he is given reports; these laws will probably never contradict the main law, however). The parliament is made up of the upper house elected by the Sultan (the Council of State of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom), and the democratically elected lower house (Consultative Assembly, which is also over twice the size it is IRL). The public is well aware of the fact that the Sultan has and will waive constitutional rights, and respects this as he is the only one capable of doing so. Other parts of the government exist, such as a bureaucracy of non-elected and elected officials, and smaller components such as the rulers of a city.


The country is known for possessing very open foreign and trade policies, as well as an open mind when it comes to negotiations, for the most part. These traits most likely arose due to the increased threat posed by technologically advanced neighbors or economic rivals, but they have led to a bustling economy with free trade (of course, tariffs and taxes still apply), stock markets in all major cities and economic centers, beneficial land ownership laws, smooth operation, and other attributes that make the Sultanate exciting for domestic and international traders alike.


The Sultanate of Yemen is divided into governorates (Muhafazah) as first-order administration, then provinces (Wiliyat), then districts (Kaza), then the subdistricts (the equivalent of counties) (Nahiyah), and then finally into municipalities, a concept embraced because of exposure to Westerners. The colonies are called dominions, but Yemen is closer to to its dominions than the real life British Empire was. The type of leader for each will be as follows: governor for the governorates, mutasariff for the provinces, kaimakam for districts (the military rank of kaimakam has been replaced by the title yarbay), a mudir for subdistricts, and mayors for municipalities. Each leader of the governorates and provinces will have secretaries for finance, agriculture and commerce, interaction with foreigners, public works, and correspondence and archives, while those of smaller divisions will have similar staff, and for many of these there is an executive council.

Majority/State Religion: The Arabian Agglomeration
Religious Description: Not given a single-word name like so many other religions, mostly because it hasn’t been given an official name, the so-called Arabian Agglomeration is the same agglomeration as the most widely held culture in the Sultanate of Yemen and its territories. While it may differ from region to region in some areas, and has its strongest presence in Yemen’s territorial core (Madagascar is in the territorial core, but expresses a combination of Malagasy beliefs and those that go along with the Arabian Agglomeration, which has seeped into the African territories it is close to), it is mostly Arabic/Sunni Muslim influenced by Sufism, and blended with Persian, Somali, Abyssinian, and Swahili beliefs, as is the rest of the culture.

Economic Ideologies: Mixed market, with a focus on not creating social disorder through wage gaps, and, like much of the Middle East did, extending the ruler’s power, and in some way becoming wealthy through making the working/productive classes more prosperous. Please note that they also make use of tactics other than the one mentioned, and are in no way limited to that one tactic.
Major Production: Agricultural goods, mineral products (including moderate iron production as a result of iron mines), and high-quality textile goods
Economic Description: With the adoption of highly efficient and generally very open economic policies that generate much wealth for the Sultanate, the embracement of Roman law, aqueducting, and other customs of the “West” (yes, this is essentially word for word what Danceria suggested, though I edited it some), as well as having algebra and other things while Europe was rather primitive in nature (this one is more ancient, but it still influenced the present Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom), the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom has become an extremely wealthy mercantile nation. It is semi-industrialized, possessing a well-invested textile industry, more modernized mining, manufacturing, and other such things than those without any industrialization, and it possesses extensive railroad and telegraph networks built by contracting industrialized Western nations. It isn’t uncommon for a decent percentage of the GDP to come from renting out privateer and mercenary guilds, many of which operate independently of the Sultanate, but rely on the Sultanate to provide them jobs, with contracts existing regarding what jobs they can take, with benefits such as serving the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom and finding a safe-haven there (as long as they follow the laws).

Army Strength: The national army and mercenary corps are well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with possession of modern firearms (about 1870 level), and the common use of effective indirect fire with artillery)
Army Weakness: Many of the numbers come from the mercenary corps, and the army is pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Naval Strength: The national navy and privateer corps are Incredibly well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with steam-assisted vessels, in possession of a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently put together in flotillas that are part of larger groups meant to overwhelm larger vessels, and they have access to shell guns) possess a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently use in swarms, and they have access to shell guns
Naval Weakness: Less sophisticated than most major rivals (they are about 1860-1870 level, but Oriental and Western European rivals, which are pretty plentiful, are 10 to 20 years ahead), lagging behind in research for ironclads when compared to the likes of Rome, and, like the army, they are pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Further Military Description: Aside from the national army and navy, there exist the ground-based mercenary corps, the privateer fleets, and the so-called ‘fortress defenders’. The national army has 225,000 regular soldiers from every corner of the Sultanate, not counting those in the Communications, Medical, Engineering, or other auxiliary corps; it can also levy en masse fairly easily. The mercenary corps adds over 400,000 men to the standard force, which brings it to above 1% of the population, but the wealth of the Sultanate of Yemen more than makes up for this, and it is necessary because of the threat posed by extremely powerful neighbors and rivals. The mercenary corps are largely Somali/Abyssinian/Ghurid mercenaries, and investment has led to a healthy industry of renting out l mercenaries to those in the Indian Ocean, with numbers outside of the active 400,000 available for being rented out. ‘fortress defenders’ are regular officers with less training than the national army meant to bolster the defenses of fortifications and military bases, all of which have been trained well in defending their charges. There also exists the policing force that is state-funded; they are efficient, well-funded, and well-trained, but I don’t need to give numbers for them because they operate almost entirely on a domestic basis unless there is a very significant national emergency that calls for the use of something so integral to peace within the Sultanate of Yemen. The national navy has 81 ships-of-the-line (all at or above third-rate on the RL British Empire’s rating system), 102 great frigates, 273 frigates, and numerous corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (including bomb ships [ships equipped with mortars, which are still used, but not as much as they used to be because of the advent of effective shell guns], transport vessels, tenders, hospital ships, and a very sizable merchant fleet). The privateer navy, which operates largely in the Indian Ocean and has also been leveraged into a force that can be recruited out, has numbers eclipsing the national navy, but they are generally smaller vessels, and only larger privateer organizations of epic status operate anything like a first-rate (I think I will have one or two of these organizations). In training, there is a focus on loyalty, valor, honor, camaraderie, and similar traits. The majority of the national army has been trained and educated since childhood, though the Sultanate also is increasing the recruitment of standard officers (which will be held to a certain level of expectation), and has built additional recruitment centers. Overall, the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom has built and maintained such a large military because of the utterly massive threat posed by certain nations.

National Goals: Overall, they wish to make sure that Islam survives, even if it isn’t pure Islam anymore. They wish to become independent of imports of coal and other industrial materials, and also to have the ability to become independent of Western firms, but not necessarily to abandon their contracts with them.
National Issues: Natural resources (such as coal, and such for steel and, oh, I dunno, an actual industrial revolution), the lagging behind their rivals, certain regional alliances (getting rid of them is out of the question, so cozying up to them is more likely), highly efficient and sophisticated competition from Western Europe and the Oriental nations, ‘rebel’ groups of pirates that refused becoming a privateer guild in the Empire. There are small rebellions (HERESIES!) taking place because of the Ibadi tribes of Oman, while Orthodox and other missionaries travel from South Africa and the Mediterranean, trying to convert my people. The Gulf of Persia leads to Zoroastrian missionaries entering the Empire’s heartland. The travels of missionaries result in odd variations and combinations of religions seeking peace to form. Then there are the Solomonists, which pose the most dangerous threat to the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom, as they are a politically adept religious organization based in the Horn of Africa that has a leader who claims to be descended from both the Prophet Mohammed and King Solomon, endangering the dynasty’s control of the Red Sea.
National Ambition/Aspirations: To become more sophisticated, self-sustaining, and less fearful than they are now. They envision a much more prosperous nation, and this is idealized in things like the painting of lush, but still metaphorical and somewhat abstract landscapes of Arabia (the lushness is a metaphor for what they want the nation to become, and the abstract styles slowly formed as people started introducing ways to prevent them for being mistaken for actual landscapes), which adds to the affluent, ambitious, but ultimately unsatisfied cultural identity seen in the Rasuli-Ghor.

History:

• Before 1096: As per real life, there was a massive spread of Islam, but it did not reach far past the Yazd province of present day Iran, and found more of a home in the western and southern areas of Africa. Shia-Sunni infighting devastated the Muslim nations, and left them much more open to attack by the incredibly powerful Roman-Persian alliance later down the road, for the Zoroastrians to take control of Persia, and for a number of other important matters to occur.
• 1096: The Crusades begin
• 1098: The states of Yemen and Oman form a personal union
• 1229: Rasulid Dynasty is founded by Umar ibn Rasul, conquests begin
• 1234: The Muslim Kingdoms of the Horn of Africa begin sending their sons to Yemen and Oman to study, bringing people and military support to the Rasuli-Ghor Empire. This would dampen the blows that the Ninth Crusade would later inflict upon the Empire.
• 1271-1272: The Ninth Crusade occurs, with the Empire of Rasuli suffering, but recovering to its former levels within a decade.
• 1278: Recovery from the Ninth Crusade nears completion
• 1298: Plagues sweep through the Empire, ending another short-lived era of prosperity.
• 1331: The Empire begins marrying off the sons and daughters of the House of Rasulid, making use of the close alliances they held with the Muslim Kingdoms of the Horn of Africa, and they take advantage of their alliances. Over time, the Muslim Kingdoms would become more subservient, and eventually be absorbed.
• 1349: The Sultanate begins to make attempts to acquire control of regional rulers in the Ghurid Kingdom.
• 1441: Extinguishment of major rebellions, ushering in a new era of peace under the Rasulid dynasty within the state, and preventing the fall of the Rasulid dynasty in 1454
• 1442: The defeat of Egypt in the Red Sea leads to total control over the Hejaz, leading to an era of both peace and prosperity, and leaving the Rasulid dynasty rulers of a nation now seen as the rightful successor to the world’s former Muslim Caliphates.
• 1445: The Sultan dies, and the first Sultana of the state rises to prominence as a result of strange circumstance, and a devastated royal family. She makes sweeping reforms, and changes the Sultanate’s views of women, as well as how foreign and economic policy was handled, with the focus on slavery being shifted to the Sultana’s hope of abolishing slavery. Her actions would also insure the survival of the Rasulid dynasty.
• 1465: The Almulahhimi Sultana is assassinated, the perpetrator escaping. It becomes a day of mourning in the Yemeni state.
• 1545: The First Century Anniversary of the Almulahhimi Sultana ascendance sees the abolition of Sharia law, and the implementation of a combination of Roman law and some secular ideals. The descendants of the Almulahhimi Sultana had gathered their allies, both foreign and domestic, and prevented any major uprisings from occurring, efforts that were almost certainly aided by the development of the Empire’s more peaceful, open-minded agglomerate culture.
• 1577: The first mercenary guild is established.
• 1583: The first privateer guild is established. While independent from the state, it had agreed to certain things in exchange for being served first, a decent amount of pay, and a safe-haven in the empire, much of which had also been granted to the first mercenary guild back in 1577.
• 1610:: The Ghurid Kingdom enters a personal union with the Sultanate of Yemen, resulting in the short lived Union of Yemen, Oman, and the Ghurid Kingdom
• 1612: 13 members of the soon-to-be-unified Houses of Rasulid and Ghurid are killed during a pirate attack on a small flotilla. The escort flotilla was the only one available because of a shortage of vessels due to combating the pirates. Afterwards, they put their privateer guilds and remaining state-operated vessels into override, calling upon what allies they could find in the matter of dealing with pirates in the Indian Ocean, and managing to convince many of them to become privateer guilds, though they were to undergo a period of not attacking certain powers that aided them for quite some time (over a century, actually. It was the only way that the Empire could convince other states to continue to aid them once they realized what the Empire wanted to do), but there were also many others that rebelled, and pirates still terrorize the Indian Ocean because of that.
• 1614: The first child of the House of Rasulid-Ghurid is born, and both former houses complete their unification process. This marks the ‘end’ of the centuries old House of Rasulid.
• 1620: Several children have been born as a result of the personal union between Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom 6 years ago.
• 1622: The Sultanate of Oman is dissolved, and becomes a governorate of the Sultanate of Yemen. With the leader of both states being the same, and Oman not having been ruled by a separate Sultan for over a century, as well as quiet efforts to prepare for the dissolving of Oman as a separate state, the Union of Yemen, Oman, and the Ghurid Kingdom was no more, and born was the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom.
• 1630: Conquests along the eastern coast of Africa take place
• 1667: The first Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia, marking the beginning of the most dangerous dissident threat to the Empire.
• 1712: The state’s agreement not to use privateer guilds against certain nations ends. The state does not yet change their use of the privateer guilds.
• 1713: The Rasulid-Ghurid dynasty quickly rises to prominence, controlling trade and ports in southeast Africa and several other areas of the Indian Ocean, which wouldn’t be broken any time soon.
• 1719: In the Ghurid Kingdom and surrounding territories, large movements are made to the coastal settlements, perhaps because of threats posed by the Persians.
• 1767: The second Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia.
• 1842: The Sultanate makes contact with several Western firms, hoping to come to agreement on the construction of extensive networks of railways and telegraph lines, as well as education on how to manage them, and future aid in maintenance.
• 1845: First shell gun reaches the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom
• 1850: A Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia.
• 1854: After nearly a decade of development, a more sophisticated shell gun is produced by the Imperial Arsenal’s research and development branch.
• 1867: The Empire reaches an economic and military level of development that they, for some reason, see as a cause for celebration, marking a day that would forever include falling asleep in a drunken stupor. Still, the population is not completely satisfied with the nation as it is.
• 1870: Modern day

Comparison Points – Political: 2.5
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious: 2.5
Comparison Points – Economy: 3
Comparison Points – Military: 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 10/10

• As I keep saying, you need to add an actual image for us to be able to visualize your claims. A working one, if possible.
• As an example, you're claiming the entirety of modern Saudi Arabia, and yet on the map, the Roman claiming is chopping parts of its north. Use the map.
• You need to pick up a historical direction for your expansion. You're in a position to maintain your influence in two completely different directions, meaning either Africa or Pakistan.
• A territorial claim is something else entirely. Not colonies, not an influence area, but what your nation claims and wants. As an example, my Roman Empire would be claiming all former territories of the Byzantine Empire. We don't own them, but we want them.
• I would like a population in which you split your numbers between territories, in a nice small list. Not something that forces me to use a calculator to determine the population of Ethiopia, as an example.
• You should work a little on the weaknesses and strengths of your military. You can't fully have both a well funded military and a well funded navy at the same time. Or at the very least, you could introduce something else, like mentioning that the mercenaries aren't exactly loyal, which is pretty much something shared by most mercenaries in the world.
• Your history is interesting, but you will have to synchronize it with that of Rome and of Persia. As a first example, in our current histories, Islam got slashed in Mesopotamia. No Muslims reached Yazd.

[Intermountain States]

Manifest Destiny up north then?

A God given right to kill devout Christians? I'd just come up with a new concept to replace it.

Manifest Destiny isn't the right word, perhaps the Atlantic Unification Movement will suffice.

I just need to decide on what should be the form of government for Columbia (or Atlantis like that Turtledove book series)

[Togeria]

Pre-Application Credits: Danceria played a massive part in helping me come up with this, and I actually have screenshots of stuff I hope makes it into the app, since it’s all really awesome. I was also helped out a lot by the rest of the members, and would like to mention Sanabel and Thrace. This isn’t my best app, but I can assure you that it is certainly my post unique.


Full Nation Name: The Empire of Rasuli-Ghor, AKA the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom
Majority/Official Culture: Most consider themselves Arabian, the Persian-descended ‘Ghurid Muslims’, or a combination of Arabian, ‘Ghurid Muslim’ and some other culture; there is a cultural continuum similar to a dialect continuum, but different in that Madagascar’s culture is about as severe as the differences get (except for those causing rebellions), and there are many shared traits between the cultures
Territorial Core: Yemen, Oman, Socotra island, modern Saudi Arabia, modern U.A.E., modern Bahrain, modern Qatarn, modern Pakistan/whatever else makes up the Kingdom of Ghurid
Territorial Claim: Very strong presences in the Horn of Africa (Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia), with prominent settlements in Zanzibar (parts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi, Mozambique, and Burundi), Reunion island, Kuria Muria island, Masira island, the Seychelles archipelago, the Chagos archipelago, Mauritius and colonies in the African Great Lakes


This. In case it’s not on the map, I have colonies in the African Great Lakes, the Chagos archipelago, the Seychelles archipelago, Mauritius, the Kuria Muria island, Masira island, and Reuinion island. Madagascar also includes Mayotte and the Comoros. I tried to make it so that the Ghurid Kingdom was large enough to offer something to the Rasulid dynasty, but small enough that it was reasonable.
Capital City: Sana’a, Yemen and Quetta, the Ghurid Kingdom
Population: 22,885,700 without Ethiopia and the Ghurid Kingdom, 32,320,700 with Ethiopia and without the Ghurid Kingdom, 32,712,000 with the Ghurid Kingdom and without Ethiopia, 42,147,600 with both

Government Type: Absolutist monarchy accompanied by a rights-granting charter that only the Sultan isn’t required to follow, and democratic- and republican-leaning tendencies in some areas
Government Ideology/Policies: Non-militant expansionism that sometimes escalates into militant expansionism or even imperialism. Many members of society have nationalism or patriotism of some sort for the Sultanate of Yemen in their hearts, but there are some who take it to the extreme and express chauvinism. There are small rebellions however, and not everyone reacts with anger, pointing to the fact that nationalism and patriotism isn’t as important to some people as it is to others (while many have nationalistic or patriotic views, some are less pronounced in their beliefs).
Government Focus: The economy and culture are the largest focuses, but the military is strong as a result of heavy funding, extensive training, closely held ideals, and a mercenary/privateer force working aside them
Head of State: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid-Ghurid Dynasty, Sovereign of the Ghurid Kingdom, Caliph of All Islam
Head of Government: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid-Ghurid Dynasty, Sovereign of the Ghurid Kingdom, Caliph of All Islam
Government Description: The Sultan is the absolute ruler, possessing widespread executive powers. A rights-granting charter, a combination of secular and Roman law, and his Cabinet of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom (the Council of Ministers; it is over double the size it is IRL, as there are Sultan-elected representatives of several areas) aid greatly in his rule. The Sultan sits in on all meetings held by the nation’s parliament, and has final say and veto powers on all laws passed in the nation (and for rules/laws passed on a scale smaller than nation-wide, he is given reports; these laws will probably never contradict the main law, however). The parliament is made up of the upper house elected by the Sultan (the Council of State of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom), and the democratically elected lower house (Consultative Assembly, which is also over twice the size it is IRL). The public is well aware of the fact that the Sultan has and will waive constitutional rights, and respects this as he is the only one capable of doing so. Other parts of the government exist, such as a bureaucracy of non-elected and elected officials, and smaller components such as the rulers of a city.


The country is known for possessing very open foreign and trade policies, as well as an open mind when it comes to negotiations, for the most part. These traits most likely arose due to the increased threat posed by technologically advanced neighbors or economic rivals, but they have led to a bustling economy with free trade (of course, tariffs and taxes still apply), stock markets in all major cities and economic centers, beneficial land ownership laws, smooth operation, and other attributes that make the Sultanate exciting for domestic and international traders alike.


The Sultanate of Yemen is divided into governorates (Muhafazah) as first-order administration, then provinces (Wiliyat), then districts (Kaza), then the subdistricts (the equivalent of counties) (Nahiyah), and then finally into municipalities, a concept embraced because of exposure to Westerners. The colonies are called dominions, but Yemen is closer to to its dominions than the real life British Empire was. The type of leader for each will be as follows: governor for the governorates, mutasariff for the provinces, kaimakam for districts (the military rank of kaimakam has been replaced by the title yarbay), a mudir for subdistricts, and mayors for municipalities. Each leader of the governorates and provinces will have secretaries for finance, agriculture and commerce, interaction with foreigners, public works, and correspondence and archives, while those of smaller divisions will have similar staff, and for many of these there is an executive council.

Majority/State Religion: The Arabian Agglomeration
Religious Description: Not given a single-word name like so many other religions, mostly because it hasn’t been given an official name, the so-called Arabian Agglomeration is the same agglomeration as the most widely held culture in the Sultanate of Yemen and its territories. While it may differ from region to region in some areas, and has its strongest presence in Yemen’s territorial core (Madagascar is in the territorial core, but expresses a combination of Malagasy beliefs and those that go along with the Arabian Agglomeration, which has seeped into the African territories it is close to), it is mostly Arabic/Sunni Muslim influenced by Sufism, and blended with Persian, Somali, Abyssinian, and Swahili beliefs, as is the rest of the culture.

Economic Ideologies: Mixed market, with a focus on not creating social disorder through wage gaps, and, like much of the Middle East did, extending the ruler’s power, and in some way becoming wealthy through making the working/productive classes more prosperous. Please note that they also make use of tactics other than the one mentioned, and are in no way limited to that one tactic.
Major Production: Agricultural goods, mineral products (including moderate iron production as a result of iron mines), and high-quality textile goods
Economic Description: With the adoption of highly efficient and generally very open economic policies that generate much wealth for the Sultanate, the embracement of Roman law, aqueducting, and other customs of the “West” (yes, this is essentially word for word what Danceria suggested, though I edited it some), as well as having algebra and other things while Europe was rather primitive in nature (this one is more ancient, but it still influenced the present Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom), the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom has become an extremely wealthy mercantile nation. It is semi-industrialized, possessing a well-invested textile industry, more modernized mining, manufacturing, and other such things than those without any industrialization, and it possesses extensive railroad and telegraph networks built by contracting industrialized Western nations. It isn’t uncommon for a decent percentage of the GDP to come from renting out privateer and mercenary guilds, many of which operate independently of the Sultanate, but rely on the Sultanate to provide them jobs, with contracts existing regarding what jobs they can take, with benefits such as serving the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom and finding a safe-haven there (as long as they follow the laws).

Army Strength: The national army and mercenary corps are well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with possession of modern firearms (about 1870 level), and the common use of effective indirect fire with artillery)
Army Weakness: Many of the numbers come from the mercenary corps, and the army is pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Naval Strength: The national navy and privateer corps are Incredibly well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with steam-assisted vessels, in possession of a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently put together in flotillas that are part of larger groups meant to overwhelm larger vessels, and they have access to shell guns) possess a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently use in swarms, and they have access to shell guns
Naval Weakness: Less sophisticated than most major rivals (they are about 1860-1870 level, but Oriental and Western European rivals, which are pretty plentiful, are 10 to 20 years ahead), lagging behind in research for ironclads when compared to the likes of Rome, and, like the army, they are pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Further Military Description: Aside from the national army and navy, there exist the ground-based mercenary corps, the privateer fleets, and the so-called ‘fortress defenders’. The national army has 225,000 regular soldiers from every corner of the Sultanate, not counting those in the Communications, Medical, Engineering, or other auxiliary corps; it can also levy en masse fairly easily. The mercenary corps adds over 400,000 men to the standard force, which brings it to above 1% of the population, but the wealth of the Sultanate of Yemen more than makes up for this, and it is necessary because of the threat posed by extremely powerful neighbors and rivals. The mercenary corps are largely Somali/Abyssinian/Ghurid mercenaries, and investment has led to a healthy industry of renting out l mercenaries to those in the Indian Ocean, with numbers outside of the active 400,000 available for being rented out. ‘fortress defenders’ are regular officers with less training than the national army meant to bolster the defenses of fortifications and military bases, all of which have been trained well in defending their charges. There also exists the policing force that is state-funded; they are efficient, well-funded, and well-trained, but I don’t need to give numbers for them because they operate almost entirely on a domestic basis unless there is a very significant national emergency that calls for the use of something so integral to peace within the Sultanate of Yemen. The national navy has 81 ships-of-the-line (all at or above third-rate on the RL British Empire’s rating system), 102 great frigates, 273 frigates, and numerous corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (including bomb ships [ships equipped with mortars, which are still used, but not as much as they used to be because of the advent of effective shell guns], transport vessels, tenders, hospital ships, and a very sizable merchant fleet). The privateer navy, which operates largely in the Indian Ocean and has also been leveraged into a force that can be recruited out, has numbers eclipsing the national navy, but they are generally smaller vessels, and only larger privateer organizations of epic status operate anything like a first-rate (I think I will have one or two of these organizations). In training, there is a focus on loyalty, valor, honor, camaraderie, and similar traits. The majority of the national army has been trained and educated since childhood, though the Sultanate also is increasing the recruitment of standard officers (which will be held to a certain level of expectation), and has built additional recruitment centers. Overall, the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom has built and maintained such a large military because of the utterly massive threat posed by certain nations.

National Goals: Overall, they wish to make sure that Islam survives, even if it isn’t pure Islam anymore. They wish to become independent of imports of coal and other industrial materials, and also to have the ability to become independent of Western firms, but not necessarily to abandon their contracts with them.
National Issues: Natural resources (such as coal, and such for steel and, oh, I dunno, an actual industrial revolution), the lagging behind their rivals, certain regional alliances (getting rid of them is out of the question, so cozying up to them is more likely), highly efficient and sophisticated competition from Western Europe and the Oriental nations, ‘rebel’ groups of pirates that refused becoming a privateer guild in the Empire. There are small rebellions (HERESIES!) taking place because of the Ibadi tribes of Oman, while Orthodox and other missionaries travel from South Africa and the Mediterranean, trying to convert my people. The Gulf of Persia leads to Zoroastrian missionaries entering the Empire’s heartland. The travels of missionaries result in odd variations and combinations of religions seeking peace to form. Then there are the Solomonists, which pose the most dangerous threat to the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom, as they are a politically adept religious organization based in the Horn of Africa that has a leader who claims to be descended from both the Prophet Mohammed and King Solomon, endangering the dynasty’s control of the Red Sea.
National Ambition/Aspirations: To become more sophisticated, self-sustaining, and less fearful than they are now. They envision a much more prosperous nation, and this is idealized in things like the painting of lush, but still metaphorical and somewhat abstract landscapes of Arabia (the lushness is a metaphor for what they want the nation to become, and the abstract styles slowly formed as people started introducing ways to prevent them for being mistaken for actual landscapes), which adds to the affluent, ambitious, but ultimately unsatisfied cultural identity seen in the Rasuli-Ghor.

History:

• Before 1096: As per real life, there was a massive spread of Islam, but it did not reach far past the Yazd province of present day Iran, and found more of a home in the western and southern areas of Africa. Shia-Sunni infighting devastated the Muslim nations, and left them much more open to attack by the incredibly powerful Roman-Persian alliance later down the road, for the Zoroastrians to take control of Persia, and for a number of other important matters to occur.
• 1096: The Crusades begin
• 1098: The states of Yemen and Oman form a personal union
• 1229: Rasulid Dynasty is founded by Umar ibn Rasul, conquests begin
• 1234: The Muslim Kingdoms of the Horn of Africa begin sending their sons to Yemen and Oman to study, bringing people and military support to the Rasuli-Ghor Empire. This would dampen the blows that the Ninth Crusade would later inflict upon the Empire.
• 1271-1272: The Ninth Crusade occurs, with the Empire of Rasuli suffering, but recovering to its former levels within a decade.
• 1278: Recovery from the Ninth Crusade nears completion
• 1298: Plagues sweep through the Empire, ending another short-lived era of prosperity.
• 1331: The Empire begins marrying off the sons and daughters of the House of Rasulid, making use of the close alliances they held with the Muslim Kingdoms of the Horn of Africa, and they take advantage of their alliances. Over time, the Muslim Kingdoms would become more subservient, and eventually be absorbed.
• 1349: The Sultanate begins to make attempts to acquire control of regional rulers in the Ghurid Kingdom.
• 1441: Extinguishment of major rebellions, ushering in a new era of peace under the Rasulid dynasty within the state, and preventing the fall of the Rasulid dynasty in 1454
• 1442: The defeat of Egypt in the Red Sea leads to total control over the Hejaz, leading to an era of both peace and prosperity, and leaving the Rasulid dynasty rulers of a nation now seen as the rightful successor to the world’s former Muslim Caliphates.
• 1445: The Sultan dies, and the first Sultana of the state rises to prominence as a result of strange circumstance, and a devastated royal family. She makes sweeping reforms, and changes the Sultanate’s views of women, as well as how foreign and economic policy was handled, with the focus on slavery being shifted to the Sultana’s hope of abolishing slavery. Her actions would also insure the survival of the Rasulid dynasty.
• 1465: The Almulahhimi Sultana is assassinated, the perpetrator escaping. It becomes a day of mourning in the Yemeni state.
• 1545: The First Century Anniversary of the Almulahhimi Sultana ascendance sees the abolition of Sharia law, and the implementation of a combination of Roman law and some secular ideals. The descendants of the Almulahhimi Sultana had gathered their allies, both foreign and domestic, and prevented any major uprisings from occurring, efforts that were almost certainly aided by the development of the Empire’s more peaceful, open-minded agglomerate culture.
• 1577: The first mercenary guild is established.
• 1583: The first privateer guild is established. While independent from the state, it had agreed to certain things in exchange for being served first, a decent amount of pay, and a safe-haven in the empire, much of which had also been granted to the first mercenary guild back in 1577.
• 1610:: The Ghurid Kingdom enters a personal union with the Sultanate of Yemen, resulting in the short lived Union of Yemen, Oman, and the Ghurid Kingdom
• 1612: 13 members of the soon-to-be-unified Houses of Rasulid and Ghurid are killed during a pirate attack on a small flotilla. The escort flotilla was the only one available because of a shortage of vessels due to combating the pirates. Afterwards, they put their privateer guilds and remaining state-operated vessels into override, calling upon what allies they could find in the matter of dealing with pirates in the Indian Ocean, and managing to convince many of them to become privateer guilds, though they were to undergo a period of not attacking certain powers that aided them for quite some time (over a century, actually. It was the only way that the Empire could convince other states to continue to aid them once they realized what the Empire wanted to do), but there were also many others that rebelled, and pirates still terrorize the Indian Ocean because of that.
• 1614: The first child of the House of Rasulid-Ghurid is born, and both former houses complete their unification process. This marks the ‘end’ of the centuries old House of Rasulid.
• 1620: Several children have been born as a result of the personal union between Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom 6 years ago.
• 1622: The Sultanate of Oman is dissolved, and becomes a governorate of the Sultanate of Yemen. With the leader of both states being the same, and Oman not having been ruled by a separate Sultan for over a century, as well as quiet efforts to prepare for the dissolving of Oman as a separate state, the Union of Yemen, Oman, and the Ghurid Kingdom was no more, and born was the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom.
• 1630: Conquests along the eastern coast of Africa take place
• 1667: The first Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia, marking the beginning of the most dangerous dissident threat to the Empire.
• 1712: The state’s agreement not to use privateer guilds against certain nations ends. The state does not yet change their use of the privateer guilds.
• 1713: The Rasulid-Ghurid dynasty quickly rises to prominence, controlling trade and ports in southeast Africa and several other areas of the Indian Ocean, which wouldn’t be broken any time soon.
• 1719: In the Ghurid Kingdom and surrounding territories, large movements are made to the coastal settlements, perhaps because of threats posed by the Persians.
• 1767: The second Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia.
• 1842: The Sultanate makes contact with several Western firms, hoping to come to agreement on the construction of extensive networks of railways and telegraph lines, as well as education on how to manage them, and future aid in maintenance.
• 1845: First shell gun reaches the Sultanate of Yemen and the Ghurid Kingdom
• 1850: A Solomonist rebellion breaks out in Ethiopia.
• 1854: After nearly a decade of development, a more sophisticated shell gun is produced by the Imperial Arsenal’s research and development branch.
• 1867: The Empire reaches an economic and military level of development that they, for some reason, see as a cause for celebration, marking a day that would forever include falling asleep in a drunken stupor. Still, the population is not completely satisfied with the nation as it is.
• 1870: Modern day

Comparison Points – Political: 2.5
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious: 2.5
Comparison Points – Economy: 3
Comparison Points – Military: 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 10/10

• As I keep saying, you need to add an actual image for us to be able to visualize your claims. A working one, if possible.
• As an example, you're claiming the entirety of modern Saudi Arabia, and yet on the map, the Roman claiming is chopping parts of its north. Use the map.
• You need to pick up a historical direction for your expansion. You're in a position to maintain your influence in two completely different directions, meaning either Africa or Pakistan.
• A territorial claim is something else entirely. Not colonies, not an influence area, but what your nation claims and wants. As an example, my Roman Empire would be claiming all former territories of the Byzantine Empire. We don't own them, but we want them.
• I would like a population in which you split your numbers between territories, in a nice small list. Not something that forces me to use a calculator to determine the population of Ethiopia, as an example.
• You should work a little on the weaknesses and strengths of your military. You can't fully have both a well funded military and a well funded navy at the same time. Or at the very least, you could introduce something else, like mentioning that the mercenaries aren't exactly loyal, which is pretty much something shared by most mercenaries in the world.
• Your history is interesting, but you will have to synchronize it with that of Rome and of Persia. As a first example, in our current histories, Islam got slashed in Mesopotamia. No Muslims reached Yazd.

Hey how do you ponder the Roman's be able to colonize South America? Further considering that I adopt the policies of the Roman Republic in spreading Roman culture and essentially latinizing the areas of SA I control do you wager my population would change by much?

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name : The United Empire of Kosso
Majority/Official Culture : North/West African
Territorial Core : Mauritania, Nigeria, Niger, Mali, Guinea, Benegal, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Benin, Cóte D'Ivoire, Sierra Leona, Liberia, Togo, Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde and Gambia
Territorial Claim : I don't really understand this
Capital City : Mikka, located near Bamako in southern Mali
Population : 85,000,000

Government Type : Unitary Parliamentary Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Equality, Capitalism, Economic State Interventionism, Social Welfare, Pacifism and Appeasement
Government Focus : Encouraging social mobility, reducing the size of the military, creating a social welfare system to help people in poverty, fighting corruption and scandal in the government and monarchy.
Head of State : Emperor Seth Mokoulu
Head of Government : First Minister Tomiwa Agbongbon
Government Description : A political party is elected to government every 3 years by every, registered over 18 in the state. The parliament formed and the members of the majority party then internally votes for a First Minister of the nation. This First Minister then governs with their cabinet alongside the monarch and their court of advisors who are made up of politicians, professionals, citizens and foreigners all from different areas, creeds, races, classes and political parties. Generally the monarch will pass the crown onto a family member however as defined in the constitution of 1799 this is not compulsory and can be passed onto anyone. If the monarch receives a vote of no confidence in a referendum of the entire nation then the monarchy can be dissolved temporarily or in fact indefinitely. There are local elections held yearly however due to recent changes in government due to large amounts of corruption then powers available at the local level have been greatly reduced.

Majority/State Religion : Sunni Islam

Economic Ideologies : The government uses a command economy in some aspects of the nation such as valuable resources and agriculture during famines. However most luxury goods and services are privatised without question. Healthcare is entirely private although there is universal education up to 14 years.
Major Production : Cotton, Rice, Millet, Corn, Tobacco, Livestock and Gold
Economic Description : Mixture between free market and controlled economy. Some

Army Strength : The armed forces of Kosso are the backbone of peace in a country which historically has dealt with opposition with war. The military of Kosso is extremely experienced and very well disciplined. This experience has lead to the formation of one of the most well drilled and reliable armies on the planet.
Army Weakness : Despite being a great army; logistically, structurally and technollogically the army doesn't rank as well. Also the army has a pretty poor track record for human rights and correct treament of civilians and prisoners, which has lead to a decline in popularity and pressure for reductions in the army.
Naval Strength : The navy is one of the greatest prides of Kosso as has been for many years. Whilst it serves primarily as a rescue and ceremonial service it is well prepared for any combat engagement.
Naval Weakness : The navy has had no combat experience in the last 4 decades apart from dealing with pirates and smugglers.

National Issues : Huge amounts of corruption in local goverments, growing amounts of Islamic extremism and a growing resentment of the unelected monarchy
National Figures of Interest : Emperor Seth Mokoulu, Imam Abdul-Rahman Oluwabenga, Prince David Mokoulu, General Rotimi Arawole

History : Early human settlers from northern Holocene societies arrived in West Africa around 12,000 B.C. Sedentary farming began in, or around the fifth millennium B.C, as well as the domestication of cattle. By 1500 B.C, ironworking technology allowed an expansion of agricultural productivity, and the first city-states later formed. Northern tribes developed walled settlements and non-walled settlements that numbered at 400. In the forest region, Iron Age cultures began to flourish, and an inter-region trade began to appear. The desertification of the Sahara and the climatic change of the coast cause trade with upper Mediterranean peoples to be seen.

The domestication of the camel and various breeds of horses allowed the development of a trans-Saharan trade with cultures across the Sahara, including Carthage and the Berbers; major exports included gold, cotton cloth, metal ornaments and leather goods, which were then exchanged for salt, horses, textiles, and other such materials. Local leather, cloth, and gold also contributed to the abundance of prosperity for many of the following empires.

The development of the region's economy allowed more centralized states and civilizations to form, beginning with the Kosso culture that began in 1000 B.C. and the Tygha Empire that first flourished between the 1st and 3rd centuries, which later gave way to the Moghli Empire. In current-day Kosso, there exist archaeological sites in the towns of Tichit and Oualata that were initially constructed around 2000 B.C., and were found to have originated from the Soninke branch of the Mandé peoples.

The Kosso Empire sought to form a union between the warring empires but was unsuccessful primarily due to cultural differences. Then after centuries of fighting, trading, treaties, unions, alliances and prosperity the legendary Imam Abdul-Rahman Olusina emerged from the Sahara and united the empires under Islam and bannered together to defend the West Africas against foreign invaders from the North. After this period the Olusina Union, later names Kosso Empire, flourished intellectually, politically and socially. A welfare state was first proposed in the early 19th century as a part of the Islamic teachings and the system has evolved since. Also the abundance of natural resources and luxury goods in Kosso has lead to sturdy economy and entirely self-sufficient nation although the it regularly engages in trade with Nothe there states. 150 years on whilst the newly formed Kosso Empire remains strong, Islam, the very thing it was founded upon is dying away, with the exception of some radical fundamentalist regions.

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 5
Comparison Points – Military : 1
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

• As for all of them, please use some sort of a map or an image in your app. You can't expect me to start looking over a world geographical map just to determine the exact borders of your claim.
• You really have to give us more details about your military. And as an African state, you should introduce the fact that you're technologically backwards there.

[Tracian Empire]

• As I keep saying, you need to add an actual image for us to be able to visualize your claims. A working one, if possible.
• As an example, you're claiming the entirety of modern Saudi Arabia, and yet on the map, the Roman claiming is chopping parts of its north. Use the map.
• You need to pick up a historical direction for your expansion. You're in a position to maintain your influence in two completely different directions, meaning either Africa or Pakistan.
• A territorial claim is something else entirely. Not colonies, not an influence area, but what your nation claims and wants. As an example, my Roman Empire would be claiming all former territories of the Byzantine Empire. We don't own them, but we want them.
• I would like a population in which you split your numbers between territories, in a nice small list. Not something that forces me to use a calculator to determine the population of Ethiopia, as an example.
• You should work a little on the weaknesses and strengths of your military. You can't fully have both a well funded military and a well funded navy at the same time. Or at the very least, you could introduce something else, like mentioning that the mercenaries aren't exactly loyal, which is pretty much something shared by most mercenaries in the world.
• Your history is interesting, but you will have to synchronize it with that of Rome and of Persia. As a first example, in our current histories, Islam got slashed in Mesopotamia. No Muslims reached Yazd.

Hey how do you ponder the Roman's be able to colonize South America? Further considering that I adopt the policies of the Roman Republic in spreading Roman culture and essentially latinizing the areas of SA I control do you wager my population would change by much?

If you do that then you would be able to assimilate natives, and as such, your population would increase.

[Togeria]

Hey how do you ponder the Roman's be able to colonize South America? Further considering that I adopt the policies of the Roman Republic in spreading Roman culture and essentially latinizing the areas of SA I control do you wager my population would change by much?

If you do that then you would be able to assimilate natives, and as such, your population would increase.

Brazil's population was 9mill something in 1870 so what you say mine would increase to?

[Tracian Empire]

Where's Trace when you need 'em? I need a Latin translator.

I can only vaguely help. I have a Latin-Romanian dictionary and some vague Latin grammar knowledge

[Tracian Empire]

WIP

Full Nation Name : The Sultanate of Kartaaj
Majority/Official Culture : Kartaaj (Some sort of Tunisian-dominated North Africa culture)
Territorial Core : http://imgur.com/a/iPy55
Territorial Claim : egypt and morroco
Capital City : Kartaaj, modern day Tunis
Population :

Government Type : Prussian Constitution, where the Sultan still held some degree of power on the parliament
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, maritime, expansionist, militarist
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Army Strength :
Army Weakness :
Naval Strength :
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10

I reserved Algeria and Libya is taken already, There's stuff available in SE Asia, Central Asia, and quite a bit in the new world and some left in Eastern Europe.

Homeland claims always beat colonial claims.

[Tracian Empire]

Reservation

Nation Name: habsburg mitteleuropa
Territory: Austria, Czechoslovakia, Swiss, Galicia, and Ruthenia
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The name makes no sense, and your lack of capital letters annoys me.

[Togeria]

Where's Trace when you need 'em? I need a Latin translator.

I can only vaguely help. I have a Latin-Romanian dictionary and some vague Latin grammar knowledge

I just need to know how you would say "Glorious Empire of Callista" in Latin. I only trust google translate with single letter words.

[Tracian Empire]

Happy to see this get started!

Reservation

Nation Name: Kingdom of Zhonghua
Territory: Historic Southern Song held territory, several trading posts around Southeast Asia and Indian Ocean (really flexible about these)
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Ahaha, you literally posted this a minute before me

He also discussed it way back in the discussion thread, so he had a few weeks of an advantage.

[Tracian Empire]

If you do that then you would be able to assimilate natives, and as such, your population would increase.

Brazil's population was 9mill something in 1870 so what you say mine would increase to?

I'm not sure about the number of natives, but 18 million would sound good to me.

[Togeria]

Brazil's population was 9mill something in 1870 so what you say mine would increase to?

I'm not sure about the number of natives, but 18 million would sound good to me.

Thanks.

[Waztaskio]

Been doing some good research, and getting loads of good information. Messaged the Burgundy player about getting that land, but still pressing with this application. Gotta say...this has taught me a lot.

[Tracian Empire]

I can only vaguely help. I have a Latin-Romanian dictionary and some vague Latin grammar knowledge

I just need to know how you would say "Glorious Empire of Callista" in Latin. I only trust google translate with single letter words.

Now, the Empire of Callista would be Imperium Callistae. As for how to add the adjective..

Perhaps Imperium Gloriosum Callistae? I'm not so sure on that, we're still learning the verb.

You should also ask Tyrannia.

[Waztaskio]

Full Nation Name : French Federative Socialist Republic (Commune of France.)
Majority/Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France (The parts not owned by Burgundy), and the Eastern portions of Spain.
Territorial Claim : None.
Capital City : Paris
Population : 50,067,094

Government Type : Federal Delescluzist One Party Socialist State
Government Ideology/Policies : N/A
Government Focus : Economy, Legitimacy, Culture.
Head of State : Chairman of the Executive Committee of the French People's Congress Jules Guesde
Head of Government : Premier of the French Commune Louis Charles Delescluze
Government Description : The Government of the Commune of France is divided into a Legislative, Judicial, and Executive Branch with all three being subjective to the Legislative. The Legislative is known as the French People's Congress, composed of two houses. The Commune of the Union, composed of 126 voting members and the Commune of Regions composed of 26 voting members appointed by regional government councils, who both appoints the Chairman of the Executive Committee, Premier of the French Commune, and the appointment of Supreme Court Justices and convenes once every 5 years unless called for a special session. The Revolutionary Committee functioned as a congress of appointed representatives to handle oversight of the state when the Congress was not in session. The Revolutionary Committee is headed by the Premier, and is responsible for the establishment of the ideals of both of French Revolution and the establishment of the state in accordance with socialist principles. It holds the power to issue laws, create ministries, oversee policies, call for impeachment of the Chairman, and serve as general oversight and review of the French government. Governed by the National Republican Party, ran by the Premier.

Majority/State Religion : Majority Protestant, however no official state religion.
Religious Description : N/A

Economic Ideologies : Socialism
Major Production : Agriculture, Finance, Manufacturing
Economic Description : The French Commune is an industrial powerhouse, with agriculture elements still existing in many regions as well. With urbanization at an all time high, many labor jobs by unskilled workers have been taken leading to a development of railroads and other industrial goods to service the french worker. The economy is mainly overseen by the Regional Councils, who invest in certain industries in order to encourage growth in areas most needed which has lead to many new industries taking hold and expanding the french economy.

Army Strength : Composed of 300,000 men who are well equipped, well trained, and have good leadership. Divided into the French Army, and French National Guard. With the French Army holding 210,000 and the National Guard holding 90,000.
Army Weakness : Rather small compared to other European armies, and suffers from low morale due to their recent leadership changes and loss of colonies.
Naval Strength : 49 Ironclads of which 14 were Frigates capable of 14 knots and mounting 24 guns, 9 Corvettes armed with 16cm and 19cm ordnance. And 26 Ship of the Lines. Very strong navy with good armament, and naval doctrine.
Naval Weakness : Lack of Naval Officers following the Communes Establishment.
Further Military Description : The French Armed Forces is under the control of The Revolutionary Committee, placing the general leadership of the military under the Premier in an operational capacity, but recognizes the Chairman as the de jure commander in chief. The military is split between the French Army, French National Guard, French Marines, and the French Navy all being placed into a Ministry of Defence underneath the Revolutionary Committee.

National Goals : Encourage the spread of socialist thought across the world. (World Revolution!)
National Issues : Internal Political Stability (Infighting between factions), and External Security.
National Figures of Interest : Jules Guesde is the first, due to him being a main figure behind the commune movement. With his writings ushering french socialist ideals and his propaganda spread amongst the workers, makes him invaluable among keeping the social movement alive. Charles Delescluze, the Premier of the state was known for his militancy in dealing with the old regime and the official enforcer and leader of the National Republican Party (NRP). Also known for instituting Delescluzism, which is a mix between economic socialism combined with elements of capitalism to allow for the government to have a decentralized role in economics, by instead of fully controlling the large business entities, but instead granting certain bonuses and privileges to certain industries and promoting investment, while allowing other industries to develop on their own. However, regulation is pressed on all business entities throughout france, and the rights of the public worker are always taken into account before the rights of business owners. Paul Lafargue, advocates for a more Marxist State and is popular with the younger elements of the National Republican Party, advocating for a vanguard and advancement of a Marxist State. Believes the current state is to moderate. Louis Auguste Blanqui, advocating for Blanquism which advocates that socialist revolution should be carried out by a relatively small group of highly organised and secretive conspirators. Popular in France with certain intellectuals, but not anywhere else.
National Ambition/Aspirations : World Socialist Revolution.

History :

• May 5th, 1789 - 9th November 1799 - French Revolution begins, throughout the period socialist movements begin to spring up in support of the ideas of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity. Creation of the French Council of Socialist, with membership growing due to popularity achieved during this period.
  
• November 9th 1799 - April 6, 1814 - Napoleon Bonaparte's coup is supported by the French Council of Socialist, with many in the council serving in various low government positions within napoleons government during this time.
  
• July 8th 1815 - September 16th 1836 - French Council of Socialist begins to be target Louis XVIII after the reestablishment of a monarchy. Establishing printing presses to publish anti-monarchist propaganda, and printing the new government as a puppet of other European powers. This soon lead to a campaign of violence across France with Anti-Monarchist and Pro-Napoleon forces engaging in violence against Pro-Monarchist and Anti-Napoleon forces.
  
• 1836-1848 - During these years, the French Council of Socialist began to take part in a more bloody campaign against the Pro-Monarchist and Anti-Napoleon forces which they called the "White Forces." And the White Forces began calling the other the "Red Forces." Over the years, these groups engaged in various violent actions with killings and arson taking place on all sides. Eventually, the Red Forces won out by assisting Napoleon III into proclaiming a French Second Republic, and appointing various leaders of the French Council of Socialist to important positions.
  
• 1848-1864 - During these years, the French Council of Socialist continued to grow and Napoleon III set up the second French Empire. During these times, Louis Charles Delescluze began to rally up political capital in the French Council of Socialist and officially split the council by establishing his own National Republican Party. The party was not a collection of various socialist ideologies like the old French Council of Socialist, but rather a party advocating a particular type of socialism spoke and written by Delescluze. He was later joined by young writer Jules Guesde and Paul Lafargue, which lead to his stance becoming super popular all throughout france. In 1866, the National Republican Party stormed into parliment, declaring that the Second French Empire no longer served the interests of France and that the National Republican Party shall guide the nation. The NRP were supported by the French National Guard, and a majority of the french working class.
  
• 1864-1865 - Napoleon III, ordered the French Army to begin to arrests the leaders of the coup and attempted to remain in control. This lead to a short, but bloody civil war spanning over 300,000 causalities, leading to the trial and execution of Napoleon III by the conspirators. The French Federative Socialist Republic was officially declared during this time.
  
• 1865-1867 - The French Federative Socialist Republic ended a number of practices of the old french regime, and instituted the new ideology of Delescluzism throughout France. Many old land owners were replaced, and leadership in the French Navy was put on trial and executed. This period was known as "The Transformation of French Society and Customs." And lead to France not only successfully transitioning into a socialist country, but also maintaining the successes of the French Revolution that was fought for years ago.
  
• 1867-1869 - The French Federative Socialist Republic begins an official military campaign into Iberia, intending to conquer new land for industry after the loss of many portions of Eastern France from Spain. The war drags on for two years, ending in a decisive French Victory once Madrid was taken.
  
• 1869-1870 - Spain succeeds eastern territories of Catalonia, Aragon, Navarre, Basque Country, La Rioja, and Valencia to France, maintaining the rest for spain. French troops held in eastern regions for peacekeeping purposes, helping to legitimize the new government.
  
  

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

[Tracian Empire]

What about Burgundy though?

[Waztaskio]

What about Burgundy though?

Awaiting a response on that atm. But honestly, considering where Burgundy is. It's at least to me the biggest troll nation. In the sense that it's landlocked, in the middle of what is considered a powerful country, and highly confined. It's like...setting up a nation in Moscow, to be surrounded by Russia. But yea..awaiting him to get back with me. Put a lot of work into that France.

[Tracian Empire]

What about Burgundy though?

Awaiting a response on that atm. But honestly, considering where Burgundy is. It's at least to me the biggest troll nation. In the sense that it's landlocked, in the middle of what is considered a powerful country, and highly confined. It's like...setting up a nation in Moscow, to be surrounded by Russia. But yea..awaiting him to get back with me. Put a lot of work into that France.

It doesn't matter. He claimed it first, he has precedence over the claim, lands, and history of Burgundy and that region.