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Seinlo
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:08 am

I really want to make sure my claims arealright witheveryone. I'm assuming that my claims in Arabia are unquestionable, as are my historical claims (except for some parts of India, and some other areas), that my long interest in Madagascar and the islands around that assures that I am probably to be allowed that, and that islands or archipelagos that generally have less than 13k people are fine. I know I own a part of Mozambique, but I am unsure if I can get any farther to the south with it, though naval bases in Madagascar and surrounding islands strengthens my case.

So, my Arabian claims are Yemen, Oman, and what are now modern Saudi Arabia, modern U.A.E., modern Qatar, and modern Bahrain. Socotra, which is owned by Yemen, should come in easily because of that; I wanted to make sure there weren't any conflicts with the Indian player, so I don't think I'll be claiming the Lakshadweep islands. Madagascar has long been an interest of mine, it goes along with Mayotte and the Comoros historically, and several potential claims are near it such as Reunion island, and the Mauritius. I think my other historical claims are safe, too, and just hope that I can expand them,as I need all the mineral wealth that I can get.

I'm certainly willing to drop any expansions concerning Mozambique, and thus any Southern African terrktory, because the Horn of Africa, Eritrea, and Djibouti are extremely important to me. Eritrea has a coast that links it and Djibouti/the Horn of Africa together, and that is part of what makes them so important as it gives me control of a waterway that I controlled historically.
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:09 am

Conchabira wrote:
Cymrea wrote:New Zealand is open, as both of its previous claimants have not returned. I wouldn't mind getting my mitts on it. :)

Or you can run Australia for me and make a play for New Zealand. :)

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!

With your claims, it's quite likely Cambria will treat you as a successor to the previous France. :)
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:10 am

I think we had a reservation for Ethiopia a while back, might want to keep that in mind.
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Seinlo
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:12 am

Conchabira wrote:
Cymrea wrote:New Zealand is open, as both of its previous claimants have not returned. I wouldn't mind getting my mitts on it. :)

Or you can run Australia for me and make a play for New Zealand. :)

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!


I was claiming that South African territory, though. If I can't expand in Mozambique, that's fine, and I might alsobe fine with it even if I can, but ya'know, it's easy to take another side of South Africa, too. I just kind of feel meh about this since I just made my official claims, and mentioned interest in that area in the prevuous thread.

Sanabel wrote:I think we had a reservation for Ethiopia a while back, might want to keep that in mind.


I didn't mention Ethiopia, did I? If so, I apologize. I am aware of that claim, but it's been over two weeks since they last posted in an Alternative Divergencr thread.
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:13 am

Seinlo wrote:
Conchabira wrote:

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!


I was claiming that South African territory, though. If I can't expand in Mozambique, that's fine, and I might alsobe fine with it even if I can, but ya'know, it's easy to take another side of South Africa, too. I just kind of feel meh about this since I just made my official claims, and mentioned interest in that area in the prevuous thread.

Sanabel wrote:I think we had a reservation for Ethiopia a while back, might want to keep that in mind.


I didn't mention Ethiopia, did I? If so, I apologize. I am aware of that claim, but it's been over two weeks since they last posted in an Alternative Divergencr thread.

Ethiopia falls on the Horn of Africa. Just making sure you knew they exist and will probably want to play it.
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:16 am

I also think you gave Burgundy some islands that willbe part of Madagascar, as they were historically. Please edit your claims now, so there isn't any confusion on that, later.

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I was claiming that South African territory, though. If I can't expand in Mozambique, that's fine, and I might alsobe fine with it even if I can, but ya'know, it's easy to take another side of South Africa, too. I just kind of feel meh about this since I just made my official claims, and mentioned interest in that area in the prevuous thread.



I didn't mention Ethiopia, did I? If so, I apologize. I am aware of that claim, but it's been over two weeks since they last posted in an Alternative Divergencr thread.

Ethiopia falls on the Horn of Africa. Just making sure you knew they exist and will probably want to play it.


Yes,but I don't think that I expanded that far into the Horn of Africa. If they want it, that's fine, but it's still strategically important to my nation, so if necessary they will be a victim of imperialism, or I'll make a deal to host military bases for a very nice amount of money. I don't want to be the considered a warmonger, though, so I might avoid imperialism. I'm unsure, however, as lacking imperialism seems a bit... Unrealistic, even if imperialism seems to be muted a little in this RP
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Postby Novacom » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:18 am

Sanabel wrote:I think we had a reservation for Ethiopia a while back, might want to keep that in mind.


A WHILE back yes, if they stick their head in, and best way to lock in claims is to make an app, the only claims locked in are the op board and the returning players.

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Postby Novacom » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:27 am

Conchabira wrote:
Cymrea wrote:New Zealand is open, as both of its previous claimants have not returned. I wouldn't mind getting my mitts on it. :)

Or you can run Australia for me and make a play for New Zealand. :)

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!


New Zealand and some of those isles are taken, best way to get your claims on the board is to make an app, nothing that hasn't been apped for outside the OP-Board and Returning Players will be put on the map.

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:29 am

Novacom wrote:
Conchabira wrote:

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!


New Zealand and some of those isles are taken, best way to get your claims on the board is to make an app, nothing that hasn't been apped for outside the OP-Board and Returning Players will be put on the map.

Has anyone that played France or Brittany returned?
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Postby Novacom » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:31 am

Cymrea wrote:
Novacom wrote:
New Zealand and some of those isles are taken, best way to get your claims on the board is to make an app, nothing that hasn't been apped for outside the OP-Board and Returning Players will be put on the map.

Has anyone that played France or Brittany returned?


Nope.

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Postby Conchabira » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:35 am

Seinlo wrote:I also think you gave Burgundy some islands that willbe part of Madagascar, as they were historically. Please edit your claims now, so there isn't any confusion on that, later.

Sanabel wrote:Ethiopia falls on the Horn of Africa. Just making sure you knew they exist and will probably want to play it.


Yes,but I don't think that I expanded that far into the Horn of Africa. If they want it, that's fine, but it's still strategically important to my nation, so if necessary they will be a victim of imperialism, or I'll make a deal to host military bases for a very nice amount of money. I don't want to be the considered a warmonger, though, so I might avoid imperialism. I'm unsure, however, as lacking imperialism seems a bit... Unrealistic, even if imperialism seems to be muted a little in this RP

I didn't claim any islands anywhere near Madagascar?

Novacom wrote:
Conchabira wrote:

Ok, great. Here are my claims.
http://imgur.com/gallery/09via
Very excited for this RP!


New Zealand and some of those isles are taken, best way to get your claims on the board is to make an app, nothing that hasn't been apped for outside the OP-Board and Returning Players will be put on the map.

I was told that they were open but will deal with that after I finish my application, which I am currently working on.

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:38 am

Novacom wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Has anyone that played France or Brittany returned?


Nope.

Okay. Unless one of them does, NZL is - to my understanding - open. But definitely needs to be claimed in an app. :)
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Postby Novacom » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:39 am

Cymrea wrote:
Novacom wrote:
Nope.

Okay. Unless one of them does, NZL is - to my understanding - open. But definitely needs to be claimed in an app. :)


Helghan (Our version of Germany) got NZL as compensation for loosing territory elsewhere.

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Postby Kievan Rus Republic » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:40 am

You know what scratch Iberia/Morroco, can I reserve modern day Indonesia without New Guinea, as well Malaysia, east timor, and Brunei?
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:44 am

Novacom wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Okay. Unless one of them does, NZL is - to my understanding - open. But definitely needs to be claimed in an app. :)


Helghan (Our version of Germany) got NZL as compensation for loosing territory elsewhere.

Ah. News to me. :)
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Postby Elerian » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:00 am

Awwww yeah!

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:16 am

Seinlo wrote:Okay, so tag. When the map is updated, please tell me. My possible territories are below.

Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia (interior, as well as the Hejaz region), U.A.E., Bahrain, Qatar, areas around the Strait of Hormuz, areas around the Bab-el-Mandeb, the Horn of Africa including Somalia, Eritrea, Djibuti, Zanzibar (my historical territories of the parts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Burundi, and Malawi, but I would like to get a bit farther into them, and to include parts of the eastern coast of South Africa), Madagascar (historically including Mayotte and the Comoros), Reunion island, Seychelles archipelago, Mauritius, Socotra, the Maldives, Chagos archipelago, Kuria Muria island, and Masira island (at least half of these islands and archipelagos are pretty close to Madagascar, and Arabia and such, and a lot of these are smaller claims, or I'll only have parts).

When the map is up, or if someone already has claims on some of these, I will narrow it down some. Please, don't be afraid to speak up, but also remember that if I control something like Madagascar, Comoros and Mayotte go along with it.

These are also not my final claims. I may shrink them without someone else telling me my claims include theirs.

All I can say is that in Africa, any colonies will be mostly centered around the coast. No big inland colonies until the Scramble happens.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:16 am

As for me, my reservation is pretty clear, I think.

I'll reuse and edit my old app.
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:31 am

Pre-Application Credits: Danceria played a massive part in helping me come up with this, and I actually have screenshots of stuff I hope makes it into the app, since it’s all really awesome. I was also helped out a lot by the rest of the members, and would like to mention Sanabel and Thrace. This isn’t my best app, but I can assure you that it is certainly my post unique.


Full Nation Name: The Empire of Rasul, AKA the Sultanate of Yemen and Oman
Majority/Official Culture: Most consider themselves Arabian or a combination of Arabian and some other culture; there is a cultural continuum similar to a dialect continuum, but different in that Madagascar’s culture is about as severe as the differences get (except for those causing rebellions), and there are many shared traits between the cultures
Territorial Core: Yemen, Oman, Socotra island, modern Saudi Arabia, modern U.A.E., modern Bahrain, modern Qatar, Horn of Africa (Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, possibly Ethiopia), Madagascar (including Mayotte and the Comoros)
Territorial Claim: Colonies/settlements in Zanzibar (parts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi, Mozambique, and Burundi; I would like to extend deeper west and south into them than I did historically for this claim), Reunion island, Kuria Muria island, Masira island, the Seychelles archipelago, the Chagos archipelago, Mauritius and colonies in the African Great Lakes


This, but please ignore the South African claim, and give me territory on the other side of the Red Sea that is linked to my Horn of Africa territory. Please also ignore my claim on the Maldives (which has been circled with the best way to do things, a magical line). Please also be aware that I circled some of the islands, since I couldn’t seem to get them colored without coloring the entire ocean about a thousand shades off of what it’s supposed to be.
Capital City: Sana’a, Yemen
Population: 22,885,700 without Ethiopia, 32,320,700 with Ethiopia

Government Type: Absolutist monarchy accompanied by a rights-granting charter that only the Sultan isn’t required to follow, and democratic- and republican-leaning tendencies in some areas
Government Ideology/Policies: Non-militant expansionism that sometimes escalates into militant expansionism or even imperialism. Many members of society have nationalism or patriotism of some sort for the Sultanate of Yemen in their hearts, but there are some who take it to the extreme and express chauvinism. There are small rebellions however, and not everyone reacts with anger, pointing to the fact that nationalism and patriotism isn’t as important to some people as it is to others (while many have nationalistic or patriotic views, some are less pronounced in their beliefs).
Government Focus: The economy and culture are the largest focuses, but the military is strong as a result of heavy funding, extensive training, closely held ideals, and a mercenary/privateer force working aside them
Head of State: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid Dynasty, Caliph of All Islam
Head of Government: Sultan Al-Afdal Al-Abbas II of the Rasulid Dynasty, Caliph of All Islam
Government Description: The Sultan is the absolute ruler, possessing widespread executive powers. A rights-granting charter, a combination of secular and Roman law, and his Cabinet of Yemen and Oman (the Council of Ministers; it is over double the size it is IRL, as there are Sultan-elected representatives of several areas) aid greatly in his rule. The Sultan sits in on all meetings held by the nation’s parliament, and has final say and veto powers on all laws passed in the nation (and for rules/laws passed on a scale smaller than nation-wide, he is given reports; these laws will probably never contradict the main law, however). The parliament is made up of the upper house elected by the Sultan (the Council of State of Yemen and Oman), and the democratically elected lower house (Consultative Assembly, which is also over twice the size it is IRL). The public is well aware of the fact that the Sultan has and will waive constitutional rights, and respects this as he is the only one capable of doing so. Other parts of the government exist, such as a bureaucracy of non-elected and elected officials, and smaller components such as the rulers of a city.


The country is known for possessing very open foreign and trade policies, as well as an open mind when it comes to negotiations, for the most part. These traits most likely arose due to the increased threat posed by technologically advanced neighbors or economic rivals, but they have led to a bustling economy with free trade (of course, tariffs and taxes still apply), stock markets in all major cities and economic centers, beneficial land ownership laws, smooth operation, and other attributes that make the Sultanate exciting for domestic and international traders alike.


The Sultanate of Yemen is divided into governorates (Muhafazah) as first-order administration, then provinces (Wiliyat), then districts (Kaza), then the subdistricts (the equivalent of counties) (Nahiyah), and then finally into municipalities, a concept embraced because of exposure to Westerners. The colonies are called dominions, but Yemen is closer to to its dominions than the real life British Empire was. The type of leader for each will be as follows: governor for the governorates, mutasariff for the provinces, kaimakam for districts (the military rank of kaimakam has been replaced by the title yarbay), a mudir for subdistricts, and mayors for municipalities. Each leader of the governorates and provinces will have secretaries for finance, agriculture and commerce, interaction with foreigners, public works, and correspondence and archives, while those of smaller divisions will have similar staff, and for many of these there is an executive council.

Majority/State Religion: The Arabian Agglomeration
Religious Description: Not given a single-word name like so many other religions, mostly because it hasn’t been given an official name, the so-called Arabian Agglomeration is the same agglomeration as the most widely held culture in the Sultanate of Yemen and its territories. While it may differ from region to region in some areas, and has its strongest presence in Yemen’s territorial core (Madagascar is in the territorial core, but expresses a combination of Malagasy beliefs and those that go along with the Arabian Agglomeration, which has seeped into the African territories it is close to), it is mostly Arabic/Sunni Muslim influenced by Sufism, and blended with Somali, Abyssinian, and Swahili beliefs, as is the rest of the culture.

Economic Ideologies: Mixed market, with a focus on not creating social disorder through wage gaps, and, like much of the Middle East did, extending the ruler’s power, and in some way becoming wealthy through making the working/productive classes more prosperous. Please note that they also make use of tactics other than the one mentioned, and are in no way limited to that one tactic.
Major Production:
Economic Description: With the adoption of highly efficient and generally very open economic policies that generate much wealth for the Sultanate, the embracement of Roman law, aqueducting, and other customs of the “West” (yes, this is essentially word for word what Danceria suggested, though I edited it some), as well as having algebra and other things while Europe was rather primitive in nature (this one is more ancient, but it still influenced the present Sultanate of Yemen and Oman), the Sultanate of Yemen and Oman has become a middle power military wise, and an extremely wealthy mercantile nation. It is semi-industrialized, possessing a well-invested textile industry, more modernized mining, manufacturing, and other such things than those without any industrialization, and it possesses extensive railways built by contracting industrialized Western nations. It isn’t uncommon for a decent percentage of the GDP to come from renting out privateer and mercenary guilds, many of which operate independently of the Sultanate, but rely on the Sultanate to provide them jobs, with contracts existing regarding what jobs they can take, with benefits such as serving the Sultanate of Yemen and Oman and finding a safe-haven there (as long as they follow the laws).

Army Strength: The national army and mercenary corps are well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with possession of modern firearms (about 1870 level), and the common use of effective indirect fire with artillery)
Army Weakness: Many of the numbers come from the mercenary corps, and the army is pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Naval Strength: The national navy and privateer corps are Incredibly well-funded and disciplined (leaving them with steam-assisted vessels, in possession of a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently put together in flotillas that are part of larger groups meant to overwhelm larger vessels, and they have access to shell guns) possess a significant amount of smaller vessels that they frequently use in swarms, and they have access to shell guns
Naval Weakness: Less sophisticated than most major rivals (they are about 1860-1870 level, but Oriental and Western European rivals, which are pretty plentiful, are 10 to 20 years ahead), lagging behind in research for ironclads when compared to the likes of Rome, and, like the army, they are pretty average outside of their funding and discipline
Further Military Description: Aside from the national army and navy, there exist the ground-based mercenary corps, the privateer fleets, and the so-called ‘fortress defenders’. The national army has 225,000 regular soldiers from every corner of the Sultanate, not counting those in the Communications, Medical, Engineering, or other auxiliary corps; it can also levy en masse fairly easily. The mercenary corps adds over 300,000 men to the standard force, which brings it to above 1% of the population, but the wealth of the Sultanate of Yemen more than makes up for this, and it is necessary because of the threat posed by extremely powerful neighbors and rivals. The mercenary corps are largely Somali/Abyssinian mercenaries, and investment has led to a healthy industry of renting out l mercenaries to those in the Indian Ocean, with numbers outside of the active 300,000 available for being rented out. ‘fortress defenders’ are regular officers with less training than the national army meant to bolster the defenses of fortifications and military bases, all of which have been trained well in defending their charges. There also exists the policing force that is state-funded; they are efficient, well-funded, and well-trained, but I don’t need to give numbers for them because they operate almost entirely on a domestic basis unless there is a very significant national emergency that calls for the use of something so integral to peace within the Sultanate of Yemen. The national navy has 62 ships-of-the-line (all at or above third-rate on the RL British Empire’s rating system), 82 great frigates, 225 frigates, and numerous corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (including bomb ships [ships equipped with mortars, which are still used, but not as much as they used to be because of the advent of effective shell guns], transport vessels, tenders, hospital ships, and a very sizable merchant fleet). The privateer navy, which operates largely in the Indian Ocean and has also been leveraged into a force that can be recruited out, has numbers eclipsing the national navy, but they are generally smaller vessels, and only larger privateer organizations of epic status operate anything like a first-rate (I think I will have one or two of these organizations). In training, there is a focus on loyalty, valor, honor, camaraderie, and similar traits. The majority of the national army has been trained and educated since childhood, though the Sultanate also is increasing the recruitment of standard officers (which will be held to a certain level of expectation), and has built additional recruitment centers. Overall, the Sultanate of Yemen and Oman has built and maintained such a large military because of the utterly massive threat posed by certain nations.

National Goals:
National Issues: Natural resources (such as coal, and such for steel and, oh, I dunno, an actual industrial revolution), [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest: [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations: [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History:


  • Before 1096: As per real life, there was a massive spread of Islam, but it did not reach far past the Yazd province of present day Iran, and found more of a home in the western and southern areas of Africa. Shia-Sunni infighting devastated the Muslim nations, and left them much more open to attack by the incredibly powerful Roman-Persian alliance later down the road, for the Zoroastrians to take control of Persia, and for a number of other important matters to occur.
  • 1096: The Crusades begin
  • 1229: Rasulid Dynasty is founded by Umar ibn Rasul,
  • 1441: Extinguishment of major rebellions, ushering in a new era of peace under the Rasulid dynasty, and preventing the fall of the Rasulid dynasty in 1454
  • 1442: Defeat of Egypt, and completed control over the Hejaz Region
  • 1687: After gathering together allies and the support of Rome, a descendent of al-Mas’ud Abu al-Qasim (the last RL ruler of the Rasulid dynasty) abolishes Sharia law and implements several changes
[[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

Comparison Points – Political: 2.5
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious: 2.5
Comparison Points – Economy: 3
Comparison Points – Military: 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 10/10
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Seinlo
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:32 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Seinlo wrote:Okay, so tag. When the map is updated, please tell me. My possible territories are below.

Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia (interior, as well as the Hejaz region), U.A.E., Bahrain, Qatar, areas around the Strait of Hormuz, areas around the Bab-el-Mandeb, the Horn of Africa including Somalia, Eritrea, Djibuti, Zanzibar (my historical territories of the parts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Burundi, and Malawi, but I would like to get a bit farther into them, and to include parts of the eastern coast of South Africa), Madagascar (historically including Mayotte and the Comoros), Reunion island, Seychelles archipelago, Mauritius, Socotra, the Maldives, Chagos archipelago, Kuria Muria island, and Masira island (at least half of these islands and archipelagos are pretty close to Madagascar, and Arabia and such, and a lot of these are smaller claims, or I'll only have parts).

When the map is up, or if someone already has claims on some of these, I will narrow it down some. Please, don't be afraid to speak up, but also remember that if I control something like Madagascar, Comoros and Mayotte go along with it.

These are also not my final claims. I may shrink them without someone else telling me my claims include theirs.

All I can say is that in Africa, any colonies will be mostly centered around the coast. No big inland colonies until the Scramble happens.

The islands are not a part of Africa, and I want Madagascar because the culture and history is interesting.
Depression kind of goes along with not being liked, especially when you ask for help, and don't get it. Remember that, okay? There are people who need someone, even if in a small way. Don't avoid them because of a misunderstanding, them having a bad day, and definitely not because everyone else does it. Even if it's just a fifteen minute conversation about nothing, it might help.

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:33 am

Seinlo wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:All I can say is that in Africa, any colonies will be mostly centered around the coast. No big inland colonies until the Scramble happens.

The islands are not a part of Africa, and I want Madagascar because the culture and history is interesting.

And other claims you mentioned are a part of Africa. Think a little bit and try to realize about which part of your claims was I talking about.

I'd also ask everyone to include some sort of an image representation of their claims in their apps.
Well.. I did a thing.

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Seinlo
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:34 am

OH! That said inland. I was very sad because I wanted Madagascar badly. Was about to remove it from my WIP app, and edit out mentions of Malagasy culture.

Yeah, I don't want to get super deep into Africa, but I certainly want more than my historical scrap of it. It will probably be mostly coastal, but I don't want it to besper thin is what I'm saying.
Depression kind of goes along with not being liked, especially when you ask for help, and don't get it. Remember that, okay? There are people who need someone, even if in a small way. Don't avoid them because of a misunderstanding, them having a bad day, and definitely not because everyone else does it. Even if it's just a fifteen minute conversation about nothing, it might help.

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Postby Novacom » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:36 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Seinlo wrote:The islands are not a part of Africa, and I want Madagascar because the culture and history is interesting.

And other claims you mentioned are a part of Africa. Think a little bit and try to realize about which part of your claims was I talking about.

I'd also ask everyone to include some sort of an image representation of their claims in their apps.


I'm going to say the latter is Mandatory and a step further to boot, if no image representation is on the app I will make assumptions and they will be negative and non-negotiable, I have better things to do with my time then sit with google maps wikipedia and a magnifying glass.

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:36 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Seinlo wrote:The islands are not a part of Africa, and I want Madagascar because the culture and history is interesting.

And other claims you mentioned are a part of Africa. Think a little bit and try to realize about which part of your claims was I talking about.

I'd also ask everyone to include some sort of an image representation of their claims in their apps.


I'm already on the map, boss. Am I good?

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Seinlo
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Postby Seinlo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:36 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Seinlo wrote:The islands are not a part of Africa, and I want Madagascar because the culture and history is interesting.

And other claims you mentioned are a part of Africa. Think a little bit and try to realize about which part of your claims was I talking about.

I'd also ask everyone to include some sort of an image representation of their claims in their apps.


I can't make a map because I'm on mobile, and my school laptop is stupid. I do use them both for writing, but that's all I can do with them.
Depression kind of goes along with not being liked, especially when you ask for help, and don't get it. Remember that, okay? There are people who need someone, even if in a small way. Don't avoid them because of a misunderstanding, them having a bad day, and definitely not because everyone else does it. Even if it's just a fifteen minute conversation about nothing, it might help.

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