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The Solomani
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:33 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Solomani wrote:Okay, I guess that makes sense. Is it possible for me to join?

It is open, and there are still some free areas, but whether you're accepted or not depends on a lot of things.

What about Oman? I would be interested in an Omani colonial empire, with land in Oman, Somalia, Yemen, Kenya, and modern day Saudi Arabia/UAE

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:37 pm

The Solomani wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:It is open, and there are still some free areas, but whether you're accepted or not depends on a lot of things.

What about Oman? I would be interested in an Omani colonial empire, with land in Oman, Somalia, Yemen, Kenya, and modern day Saudi Arabia/UAE

I wouldn't say no, but the situation is weird. See, you're a new nation, and we had a player that was apping for an Omani colonial empire, before an argument and an unacceptable attitude from his side made him leave.
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The Solomani
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:52 pm

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The Solomani wrote:What about Oman? I would be interested in an Omani colonial empire, with land in Oman, Somalia, Yemen, Kenya, and modern day Saudi Arabia/UAE

I wouldn't say no, but the situation is weird. See, you're a new nation, and we had a player that was apping for an Omani colonial empire, before an argument and an unacceptable attitude from his side made him leave.

Okay, well what land is available?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:55 pm

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Tracian Empire wrote:I wouldn't say no, but the situation is weird. See, you're a new nation, and we had a player that was apping for an Omani colonial empire, before an argument and an unacceptable attitude from his side made him leave.

Okay, well what land is available?

I'm not saying that you can't have it, but the suspicion that you are that guy, especially since your nation was created a few days ago, would exist.
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Postby Intermountain States » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:57 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:Since I finally got the password, I edited the OP a little, and I added a list of the apps I remembered. I also added the hashtag thingy to the nation app, because searching for them through all these pages is too though.

Now, those who have finished their apps but haven't been accepted, please quote them here and/or send me a TG.

You've forgotten two American countries and a Commie France
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:08 pm

Intermountain States wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Since I finally got the password, I edited the OP a little, and I added a list of the apps I remembered. I also added the hashtag thingy to the nation app, because searching for them through all these pages is too though.

Now, those who have finished their apps but haven't been accepted, please quote them here and/or send me a TG.

You've forgotten two American countries and a Commie France

I did not add yours since it still had the WIP thingy, I'll look over the other one. I told the player of France to remove the references to a Spanish puppet in his app, he did not, and as such, his app isn't accepted yet.

Thanks for the help though.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:17 pm

Im a bit confused on what happened to Rome. According to Italy's app it says they collapsed in 1453 AD (at least the Western part did)

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:21 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:Im a bit confused on what happened to Rome. According to Italy's app it says they collapsed in 1453 AD (at least the Western part did)

That was supposed to be edited. Rome fell as usual, check my history.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:23 pm

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Soviet Chernarus wrote:Im a bit confused on what happened to Rome. According to Italy's app it says they collapsed in 1453 AD (at least the Western part did)

That was supposed to be edited. Rome fell as usual, check my history.

Alright, thanks.

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The Solomani
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:28 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Solomani wrote:Okay, well what land is available?

I'm not saying that you can't have it, but the suspicion that you are that guy, especially since your nation was created a few days ago, would exist.

I get why you would be suspicious, but I've never been on this website until this week. A friend of mine found it when he was trying to find a nation simulator and found this.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:29 pm

The Solomani wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:I'm not saying that you can't have it, but the suspicion that you are that guy, especially since your nation was created a few days ago, would exist.

I get why you would be suspicious, but I've never been on this website until this week. A friend of mine found it when he was trying to find a nation simulator and found this.

I'll let that be determined by the rest of the OP board.
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Postby Intermountain States » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:32 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Intermountain States wrote:You've forgotten two American countries and a Commie France

I did not add yours since it still had the WIP thingy, I'll look over the other one. I told the player of France to remove the references to a Spanish puppet in his app, he did not, and as such, his app isn't accepted yet.

Thanks for the help though.

The WIP should be removed by now
I find my grammatical mistakes after I finish posting
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
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Postby Atreidya » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:41 pm

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Atreidya wrote:
Alright I will fix the sentences but I can't seem to find the capital letter problem can you point some out?

Further, africa, Player, ocean, western(Europe)

It might sound like nitpicking, but it's just me :P



It will all be fixed today sorry for the wait

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Postby Auchterland » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:39 pm

Full Nation Name: The Republic of Westmere
Majority/Official Culture: Anglo-Westmerian
Territorial Core: Westmerian clay
Territorial Claim: None as part of the government's official policy.
Capital City: Redemption (Indianapolis)
Population: 9,050,275

Government Type: Parliamentary republic
Government Ideology/Policies: Adoptionist moralism, fundamental rights and duties, equality of work opportunities, democracy.
Government Focus: Most of the government's attention at the moment is focused on stimulating economic growth while still staying within the limits of the social principles stated in the Constitution.
Head of State: President Aldous Stanweall
Head of Government: Prime-Minister Willard Healdanberg
Government Description: The Republic of Westmere adopts a pentapartite form of government, with a judicial branch, a bicameral legislative branch, a headship of State, a headship of government, and an autonomous public administration.

Majority/State Religion: Adoptionist Church of Westmere
Religious Description: With roots in 16th century England, the Adoptionist Society of Britain diverged from the rest of christianity based on the belief that Jesus was not born the son of God, but rather, was adopted as such after his baptism and rejection of Satan even during his suffering in the desert, as a demonstration of his undying devotion to God. And only after his return and deeds for the people of Judea, he was confirmed before them as the Messiah during his Transfiguration.
As such, the adoptionist clergy emphasizes devotion and work as the path for divine enlightenment, in the likeness of Christ, and advocates adult baptism.
In 1632, with the establishment of the colony of Westmere, it was declared as the State religion, and with its independence in the American Revolution, an autonomous Westmerian Church was established.

Economic Ideologies: Social capitalism
Major Production: Westmere holds one of the largest reserves of coal in the world, and possesses a large iron and steel industry. Lumber, cereals, fruits, animal products, chemicals, liquor and publishing rank as some of its other strong indutries.
Economic Description: Characterized by small-scale ownership of land and family-based farming. Heavy industry is present in the urban centers, many of them along the Great Lakes' shores. Railways connect many of the nation's vital points, and some canals also hold importance, such as the Langdale Canal, connecting Lake Erie to the west branch of the Susquehanna river, and thus, the Great Lakes to the Chesapeake Bay.

Army Strength: Numbering at 90,500, the numerous railways and roads provide the westmerian army with the ability to be deployed fastly within its homeland's territory. The troops, constantly fed with nationalistic propaganda, are more than willing to fight in the name of the nation's highest values. The strength of Westmere's industry is also present on the arms branch, supplying the military with good quality equipment.
Army Weakness: As Westmere's external policy has remained pacifist for the last few decades, offensive training has not been on the military's focus for some time, and thus, it is weak at coordinating actions in foreign territory. The troops are unused with combat in environments too different to its homeland's.
Naval Strength: The Republic counts with knowledge of good shipbuilding techniques and materials, rendering its navy with fast, maneuverable and sturdy ships, along with good artillery.
Naval Weakness: Westmere borders two major bodies of water: the Great Lakes and the Chesapeake Bay. Its shoreline by the latter is rather small, and has few ports. As a consequence of the first statement, the attention of the navy is divided: moving ships from one body of water to another is only done through the Langdale Canal, which takes some time to do, or alternatively through St. Lawrence river, which would take even more time and involve passing through Canada's territorial waters.
Further Military Description: Unnecessary.

National Goals: Developing a strong position in the international market, conducting a foreign policy that stays true to the nation's founding values.
National Issues : Conciliation of the industrial production system with the founding values of the nation, extending control and services to all regions of Westmere.
National Figures of Interest: Blake Howley: founder of the colony of Westmere.
Sigmund Fyrstow: leader during the American Revolution.
Edward Langdale: explorer responsible for much of the expansion to the Great Lakes region.
Adalbert Osraed: current head of the Adoptionist Church of Westmere.
National Ambition/Aspirations: Becoming a bastion of morality and industriousness for the world to see and follow.

History: The history of Westmere as we know it today begins with the foundation of the Adoptionist Society of Britain in the 16th century. Although soon Cambria declared freedom of religion in its territory, members from other christian sects or the revived druidist religion still had their quarrels with the adoptionists, sometimes escalating into some nasty incidents. This led Blake Howley, a former military officer, businessman and also an adoptionist, to pursue a dream of a land where his fellow churchmen would not only meet safety, but also would be directed according to their principles.
In 1632, he received a royal grant to establish a colony in the territory between the Susquehanna and Potomac rivers, and in the same year, landed on the Chesapeake Bay along with dozens of his brothers and sisters in faith and founded their first settlement. Howley enacted the first few laws based on the adoptionist doctrine: as it was believed that only work done out of one's own will could be redeeming, and that everyone should have an equal chance of doing so, slavery was outlawed from the start, and plots of land were to be distributed in a way that ownership would not become concentrated in the hands of only a few.
As the first colonists made peace with the local natives and found their new home to be fairly hospitable, new waves of them arrived, turning Westmere into a sprawling refuge for adoptionists. As the years passed and new settlements were established, expanding further inland, Howley enacted a law granting protection to the practice of all religions within Westmere's territory, prompting more colonists to come as an increase to the local workforce. Additionally, as slavery was outlawed within the colony and there were more opportunities for former slaves, it became a popular destination for fugitives and freedmen.
In the middle of the 18th century, however, it underwent a period of pressure when the colonists were pushed into war in the name of cambrian disputes with other colonial powers and their native american allies. After the conclusion of the armed conflict, the damage and exhaustion weighed on the colonists, but still, as the cambrian crown sought to compensate for the costs of war, it raised taxes on the colonies. After a long period of protests, Westmere could not accept the situation anymore, and along with other american colonies, rose up in revolt. Following another bloody conflict, the colonies had conquered their independence.
Here, however, as regional differences and interests spoke too high, the ex-colonies failed to federalize following their victory, with only a fragile military alliance remaining. Decades later, it meant nothing, as each State pursued their international policies autonomously. Westmere itself had minor quarrels with other States in the past as the westwards expansion began and borders had to be redefined in a series of treaties before the situation further degraded into another exhausting conflict, as Westmere already took part in the natives' wars, allying some and fighting against their rivals as part of its plan to expand into the Great Lakes.
The conquest of the Great Lakes region proved to be extremely advantageous to Westmere, as it contained valuable coal and iron deposits that were fundamental in the Republic's industrialization. With this, the last few decades are said to have heralded a new age of glory to Westmere, as it sees its industry gives it the strength to increase its influence in an international level. And those who wish to become leading actors in this great spectacle are many.

Comparison Points – Political: 2.25
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious: 2.5
Comparison Points – Economy: 3
Comparison Points – Military: 2.25
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 10/10
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Postby Auchterland » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:42 pm

Woops, posted the app with an outdated claim. Let me edit that real quick.

EDIT: Done.
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Postby Atreidya » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:24 pm

Here Tracian I believe I fixed it.

Full Nation Name : Zagwe Sultanate
Majority/Official Culture :Ethiopian
Territorial Core : Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somalia, Sudan east of the Nile, Seychelles
Territorial Claim : East African Coast, Madagascar, Kenya, the rest of Sudan
Capital City : Alyabila, (Lalibela)
Population :12,000,000

Government Type : Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Expansionist
Government Focus : Military and Culture
Head of State : Sultan Arkaan al-Alyabila
Head of Government : Sultan Arkaan al-Alyabila
Government Description : Traditionalist Monarchy

Majority/State Religion : Shia Islam
Religious Description : While still technically Shia the Sultanate is almost entirely alttakayuf, (adapting). This became a core concept that altered the way both the sultanate and regional Islam went about dealing with others. They followed a prospect of adapting their religion slightly to make it easier to convert people.

Economic Ideologies : Mercantilism
Major Production : Natural resources specifically large amounts of minerals and ores.
Economic Description : The economy has been based off of trading with foreign nations across the Indian ocean for centuries. While in recent years this has definitely diminished the Zagwe Sultanate is still known for it's trading power, even that which it once had. While in the past the economy relied almost entirely on trade passing through it's ports to other lands it now resides on the sale of resources from the inland region of the country. This has caused some to be unhappy as the exported goods vastly out way the imported and many feel Zagwe traders are given poorer deals than other nations. Trade and sailing however remain an integral part of the Zagwe identity.

Army Strength : The Zagwe army is well trained and has high morale.
Army Weakness : The Zagwe army is woefully outdated.
Naval Strength : Zagwe has some of the most talented and well trained sailors.
Naval Weakness : Zagwe ships are extremely outdated.
Further Military Description : The Zagwe Navy has greatly skilled and trained sailors. They have been loaned to allied navies throughout history. Zagwean sailors maintain this pride, and while now they largely just patrol their waters and trade lanes they remain some of the best in the world. Their ships are vastly outdated making their crews have to work much harder just to to try and make up the difference. The Zagwean army is in much the same situation, with soldiers trained extremely well for fighting in a diverse set of landscapes primarily deserts and arid grasslands. However while their training is very good arguably their greatest feature is their devotion to the Sultan. Many feel Sultan Arkaan will bring their nation back to it's former glory and them along with it. Their dedication is nigh limitless. Like the navy their equipment is severely outdated which causes many problems, however they have less developed nations on their immediate borders which makes this less of a problem. However the threat of a modern nation coming to blows with Zagwe has become the center of worry and the Sultanate looks to advance it's forces technology.

National Goals : Expand Further in Africa and become a great trade power again.
National Issues : The Sultanate needs to attempt to modernize and build up it's trade ties.
National Figures of Interest : Ramis al-Alyabila, Taamir al-Mogadishu, Nizaam al-Medina
National Ambition/Aspirations : Become a world Player, have strong influence across the Indian ocean and Africa

History :
Axum continues as a major African state as far as 825, it then begins a slow decline that eventually fractures it into dozens of smaller states.

In 830 the coastal regions of the Sultanate were were invaded and largely made into a series of minor port colonies by several Muslim groups from the Arabian peninsula. In 854 they break from their Arabian masters and become a part of a renewed Kingdom of Aksum. Under Nizaam al-Medina in 868 Shia Islam begins it's spread into the region. Dominating the coastal areas it remains largely at peace with the Christian and Jewish native populace who largely welcome them with peace. Previous Muslim minorities further inland are quickly amalgamated by this offshoot.

By 900 the Influence of this 'adaptive' Muslim movement becomes the Majority of the African coastal areas, including Zagwe, a small Kingdom with the capital of Lalibela formerly strictly Christian. While the capital of Lalibela remained slightly Christian the kingdom had become Muslim in every thing but official decree. This would change at the invasion by the army of Taamir al-Mogadishu. Having wed the daughter of the king of Zagwe Taamir had a claim to the throne that began to slip when his new wife's uncle ascended to the throne before him. The Somalian forces under his rule attacked Lalibela however they found the nearby states supportive of the small kingdom and so Taamir was slain and his wife returned home to Lalibela. Her son however would ascend to the throne of Zagwe at twenty. Ramis al-Alyabila would be the first Muslim ruler of Zagwe.

Ramis like his father would be a warrior. He enforced his claim over the Somalians to the south and succeeded in replacing his cousin as the ruler. Ramis al-Alyabila would declare the Sultanate of Zagwe in 970. This would begin the expansion of Zagwe over the next several centuries.

By 1000 Zagwe reached from Lalibela in the north and west and then east to the Indian ocean. Mogadishu and Berbera as well as several other cities along the coast became rich. Resources and slaves from the interior made their way along the secure roads of the Sultanate before beginning the long sailing journey as far as Malayasia and even Japan. Zagwe was by far the dominant African state in the area. Several Client states along the fringes of the Sultanate existed almost purely at Zagwe's whim. Forming a protective buffer and paying tribute these states became a trouble by 1243.

In 1243 Zagwe had declined slightly. It's lack of steady expansion and show of force had made it's neighbors and vassals bold. Several refused to pay tribute and many others outright launched raids of the Sultanate's lands. This would in the long run actually revive Zagwe. Fearing their nation was about to be overrun the Sultanate would begin sacking it's rebellious vassals. Some chose to pay their tribute to attempt to avoid the wrath, few succeeded. By 1500 Zagwe had taken the territories spanning the land from the Southern Nile near Juba, as far as the Horn of Africa and from Asmara in the north to the southern tip of Somalia.

The 1500's and 1600's would see the transition again to a more trading focused styled state. Now able to trade with the likes of Korea, Japan, and China with more ease Zagwean ships sailed as far as western Europe. Trade boomed and again Zagwe grew rich. Exotic goods were brought from every corner of the known world and soon Zagwe was known by foreign traders as a friendly place for goods and work. Over this time slowly yet surely Zagwe continued it's expansion north into Sudan.

By 1785 Zagwe had territory from the edges of Egypt to the Jungles of Tanzania. However Zagwe entered a steady decline, rebellions and civil wars fought continuously from this time to 1850 would eventually caused the losses of several regions on the peripheral. Trade began to decrease, as it became easier for European and Asian powers to bypass the Sultanate for trade.

In 1850 Sultan Arkaan al-Alyabila took his elder brother's throne. He was forced to combat a conspiracy from his own younger brother to become Sultan and spent the first five years consolidating his throne. Arkaan was able to largely win over his supporters by promising them to renew the greatness of Zagwe. He further solidified this promise by seizing the Seychelles. It took a year to fully establish the military ports now used there, and another two to properly set up the civilian aspect of the Islands under the Sultanate. However by 1865 several hundred Zagweans settled onto the Islands.

Having accomplished this Sultan Arkaan has largely proven to his people he is willing to work toward his goal of rebuilding Zagwe or even expanding it. His commitment to Zagwe is matched by the people's commitment to him.

Comparison Points – Political :3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious :2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:35 pm

You forgot the Commune of France.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:56 pm

Waztaskio wrote:You forgot the Commune of France.

You still haven't fixed your app.
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Postby Waztaskio » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:02 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Waztaskio wrote:You forgot the Commune of France.

You still haven't fixed your app.

I did, and you accepted it.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:04 am

Waztaskio wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:You still haven't fixed your app.

I did, and you accepted it.

It's not specifically my fault that you edited your app only in a quote. I was looking for your original app post that requires a link of it to be posted in the OP and that wasn't edited.
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Waztaskio wrote:Full Nation Name : French Federative Socialist Republic (Commune of France.)
Majority/Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France (The parts not owned by Burgundy), and the Eastern portions of Spain.
Territorial Claim : None.
Capital City : Paris
Population : 50,067,094

Government Type : Federal Delescluzist One Party Socialist State
Government Ideology/Policies : N/A
Government Focus : Economy, Legitimacy, Culture.
Head of State : Chairman of the Executive Committee of the French People's Congress Jules Guesde
Head of Government : Premier of the French Commune Louis Charles Delescluze
Government Description : The Government of the Commune of France is divided into a Legislative, Judicial, and Executive Branch with all three being subjective to the Legislative. The Legislative is known as the French People's Congress, composed of two houses. The Commune of the Union, composed of 126 voting members and the Commune of Regions composed of 26 voting members appointed by regional government councils, who both appoints the Chairman of the Executive Committee, Premier of the French Commune, and the appointment of Supreme Court Justices and convenes once every 5 years unless called for a special session. The Revolutionary Committee functioned as a congress of appointed representatives to handle oversight of the state when the Congress was not in session. The Revolutionary Committee is headed by the Premier, and is responsible for the establishment of the ideals of both of French Revolution and the establishment of the state in accordance with socialist principles. It holds the power to issue laws, create ministries, oversee policies, call for impeachment of the Chairman, and serve as general oversight and review of the French government. Governed by the National Republican Party, ran by the Premier.

Majority/State Religion : Majority Protestant, however no official state religion.
Religious Description : N/A

Economic Ideologies : Socialism
Major Production : Agriculture, Finance, Manufacturing
Economic Description : The French Commune is an industrial powerhouse, with agriculture elements still existing in many regions as well. With urbanization at an all time high, many labor jobs by unskilled workers have been taken leading to a development of railroads and other industrial goods to service the french worker. The economy is mainly overseen by the Regional Councils, who invest in certain industries in order to encourage growth in areas most needed which has lead to many new industries taking hold and expanding the french economy.

Army Strength : Composed of 300,000 men who are well equipped, well trained, and have good leadership. Divided into the French Army, and French National Guard. With the French Army holding 210,000 and the National Guard holding 90,000.
Army Weakness : Rather small compared to other European armies, and suffers from low morale due to their recent leadership changes and loss of colonies.
Naval Strength : 49 Ironclads of which 14 were Frigates capable of 14 knots and mounting 24 guns, 9 Corvettes armed with 16cm and 19cm ordnance. And 26 Ship of the Lines. Very strong navy with good armament, and naval doctrine.
Naval Weakness : Lack of Naval Officers following the Communes Establishment.
Further Military Description : The French Armed Forces is under the control of The Revolutionary Committee, placing the general leadership of the military under the Premier in an operational capacity, but recognizes the Chairman as the de jure commander in chief. The military is split between the French Army, French National Guard, French Marines, and the French Navy all being placed into a Ministry of Defence underneath the Revolutionary Committee.

National Goals : Encourage the spread of socialist thought across the world. (World Revolution!)
National Issues : Internal Political Stability (Infighting between factions), and External Security.
National Figures of Interest : Jules Guesde is the first, due to him being a main figure behind the commune movement. With his writings ushering french socialist ideals and his propaganda spread amongst the workers, makes him invaluable among keeping the social movement alive. Charles Delescluze, the Premier of the state was known for his militancy in dealing with the old regime and the official enforcer and leader of the National Republican Party (NRP). Also known for instituting Delescluzism, which is a mix between economic socialism combined with elements of capitalism to allow for the government to have a decentralized role in economics, by instead of fully controlling the large business entities, but instead granting certain bonuses and privileges to certain industries and promoting investment, while allowing other industries to develop on their own. However, regulation is pressed on all business entities throughout france, and the rights of the public worker are always taken into account before the rights of business owners. Paul Lafargue, advocates for a more Marxist State and is popular with the younger elements of the National Republican Party, advocating for a vanguard and advancement of a Marxist State. Believes the current state is to moderate. Louis Auguste Blanqui, advocating for Blanquism which advocates that socialist revolution should be carried out by a relatively small group of highly organised and secretive conspirators. Popular in France with certain intellectuals, but not anywhere else.
National Ambition/Aspirations : World Socialist Revolution.

History :
  • May 5th, 1789 - 9th November 1799 - French Revolution begins, throughout the period socialist movements begin to spring up in support of the ideas of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity. Creation of the French Council of Socialist, with membership growing due to popularity achieved during this period.
  • November 9th 1799 - April 6, 1814 - Napoleon Bonaparte's coup is supported by the French Council of Socialist, with many in the council serving in various low government positions within napoleons government during this time.
  • July 8th 1815 - September 16th 1836 - French Council of Socialist begins to be target Louis XVIII after the reestablishment of a monarchy. Establishing printing presses to publish anti-monarchist propaganda, and printing the new government as a puppet of other European powers. This soon lead to a campaign of violence across France with Anti-Monarchist and Pro-Napoleon forces engaging in violence against Pro-Monarchist and Anti-Napoleon forces.
  • 1836-1848 - During these years, the French Council of Socialist began to take part in a more bloody campaign against the Pro-Monarchist and Anti-Napoleon forces which they called the "White Forces." And the White Forces began calling the other the "Red Forces." Over the years, these groups engaged in various violent actions with killings and arson taking place on all sides. Eventually, the Red Forces won out by assisting Napoleon III into proclaiming a French Second Republic, and appointing various leaders of the French Council of Socialist to important positions.
  • 1848-1864 - During these years, the French Council of Socialist continued to grow and Napoleon III set up the second French Empire. During these times, Louis Charles Delescluze began to rally up political capital in the French Council of Socialist and officially split the council by establishing his own National Republican Party. The party was not a collection of various socialist ideologies like the old French Council of Socialist, but rather a party advocating a particular type of socialism spoke and written by Delescluze. He was later joined by young writer Jules Guesde and Paul Lafargue, which lead to his stance becoming super popular all throughout france. In 1866, the National Republican Party stormed into parliment, declaring that the Second French Empire no longer served the interests of France and that the National Republican Party shall guide the nation. The NRP were supported by the French National Guard, and a majority of the french working class.
  • 1864-1865 - Napoleon III, ordered the French Army to begin to arrests the leaders of the coup and attempted to remain in control. This lead to a short, but bloody civil war spanning over 300,000 causalities, leading to the trial and execution of Napoleon III by the conspirators. The French Federative Socialist Republic was officially declared during this time.
  • 1865-1867 - The French Federative Socialist Republic ended a number of practices of the old french regime, and instituted the new ideology of Delescluzism throughout France. Many old land owners were replaced, and leadership in the French Navy was put on trial and executed. This period was known as "The Transformation of French Society and Customs." And lead to France not only successfully transitioning into a socialist country, but also maintaining the successes of the French Revolution that was fought for years ago.
  • 1867-1869 - The French Federative Socialist Republic begins an official military campaign into Iberia, intending to conquer new land for industry after the loss of many portions of Eastern France from Spain. The war drags on for two years, ending in a decisive French Victory once Madrid was taken.
  • 1869-1870 - Spain succeeds eastern territories of Catalonia, Aragon, Navarre, Basque Country, La Rioja, and Valencia to France, maintaining the rest for spain. French troops held in eastern regions for peacekeeping purposes, helping to legitimize the new government.


Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10


Reposted for official acceptance with updated claims after certain claims were dropped.



Tracian Empire wrote:Considering the update in the app of France, it is now accepted.


Here is the other one for reference.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:11 am

And I accepted it assuming that you had actually edited your app, not just the quote. As soon as the app itself is edited, because that's what I must link to the OP, you can consider yourself accepted.
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Postby Intermountain States » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:13 am

Intermountain States wrote:Full Nation Name : Kingdom of Atlantis
Majority/Official Culture : English, Scottish
Territorial Core : The domains of Atlantis (in yellow)
Territorial Claim : West of the Mississippi River, North of Virginia
Capital City : Richmond, Virginia
Population : 4,076,120

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Diplomatic
Government Focus : Industrialization
Head of State : King Thomas
Head of Government : Chancellor Alexander Stephens (Whig)
Government Description : The Royal Senate serves as the legislative branch of Atlantis, electing one of its members as the Chancellor, who holds considerable amount of power. Although the King has executive power, the role of the crown is largely ceremonial and more to represent the nation. There are three main parties in Atlantis: the Whig Party (economic modernization, classical liberalism, pro-trade), the People's Party (populism, farmer's interest, social conservatism), and the Labor Party (worker's rights).

Majority/State Religion : The majority religion is Christianity with Catholicism being the largest of the Christian branches.
Religious Description : The colonies of Atlantis were made up of Christians seeking religious freedom in terms of religion, During Atlantis's fight for independence, it was decided by the Founding Fathers (such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson) to forbid Atlantis from deciding a state religion.

Economic Ideologies : Jeffersonian agrarianism, industrial capitalism (on the rise)
Major Production : Cotton and tobacco
Economic Description : While agrarian at the beginning due to fertile land, the reforms put in place by King George II (supported by the Whigs) in 1848 set up some areas of the Appalachia in Atlantis as industrial zones with the use of coal and logging. However, agrianism is still dominant in Atlantis (although, slavery is nonexistent) with the majority of the country still being farms and plantations (filled with paid workers of all races, not slaves). In terms of trade, Atlantis has been known internationally for its quality cotton and tobacco and frequently trades with other nations.

Army Strength : Atlantis has 70,000 active duty soldiers who are well trained and dedicated with the combination of both breech-loading and muzzle-loading rifles. The Atlantean Royal Army also have access to Gatling guns and have some of the most elite cavalry divisions in America.
Army Weakness : Military production is hard to keep up in a nation lagging behind in industrialization. The Atlantean levy force still uses muzzle-loading rifles and are more prone to run away from battle.
Naval Strength : The Atlantean Navy, while small, employs well trained sailors dedicated to defending Atlantis from an invasion in both the Gulf Coast and the Atlantic Ocean.
Naval Weakness : Despite using the name of a mythological seafaring empire, the Navy is small and the majority of the Atlantean Royal Navy's ships are converted merchant boats.
Further Military Description : N/A

National Goals : Economic modernization
National Issues : Outdated military tech, poverty in agrarian areas.
National Figures of Interest :
- Robert E. Lee, famous general known for his successful campaigns against American raiders in Arkansas
- Richard Jordan Gatling, inventor and doctor who created a handcracked multibarreled crew weapon known as the Gatling gun, successfully implemented into the Atlantean Royal Army.
- Alexander Stephens, Whig Senator from Georgia and Chancellor of the Royal Senate.
- Abraham Lincoln, former officer and current Senator of Kentucky, known for his support for militarization
- Andrew Johnson, People's Party Senator from Tennessee
- Jonathon Steele, socialist and the only Labor Senator in the Royal Senate.
- Patricia Parkerson Washington, Queen-Regent of Atlantis
National Ambition/Aspirations : N/A
History :
Colonization of Atlantis & Revolution (1607 - 1785)
The first successful Cambrian colony in America was established in 1607 in Jamestown in what is modern day Virginia by the Virginia Company. In 1624, Virginia was transferred from a royal charter to a crown colony and extended to Kentucky and West Virginia. In 1629, the Province of Carolina was established while the Province of Georgia was established south of Carolina in 1729. Despite some attacks from American raiders, the colonies were prosperous agricultural zones. Due to population growth, the original three colonies ceded land to create more colonies of Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee. Throughout the century, a divide happened between the colonies and the Cambrian and in 1776, the colonies of declared its independence as the Atlantean Confederation, named after a powerful empire in Greek mythology. After years of fighting, the Cambrian Empire recognized Atlantean Confederation as an independent entity.

Shortcomings of the Confederation and a National Change (1785 - 1789)
Despite achieving independence, Atlantis was in a poor shape. The fighting had put the Atlantean Congress in debt and soldiers without pay. Some provinces begin to compete with one another and rebellions were across the country. Soon, there were talks amongst unhapy civilians and veterans of overthrowing the weak Confederation. The two men nominated for such coup were George Washington of Virginia and Nathaneal Greene of Georgia. Both men declined such offer, placing faith in the Confederation until one of the Confederation's ardent supporter, James Madison, wrote the Atlantean Papers, arguing for a stronger government that fits the mold of the people. After putting down a rebellion of farmers and veterans lead by a former National Army officer, Washington started to feel disillusioned with the Confederation and realized the need for a stronger national government. After much consideration and pressure (and with Greene dying in 1786), George Washington lead the remnants of the Atlantean National Army into Richmond and occupied the Congressional building. Despite that Washington intended to step down from power and to simply force the Confederate Congress to reform the Confederation, his move was well-received from the public. Due to Washington's success as a leader and having Congress to establish a new document in replace of the Articles of Confederation, the public and some members of Congress wanted him to be King. Despite George's personal objection, he allowed a change in the country only if the vast majority of the Atlanteans wanted him to. With a high majority, General George Washington was crowned as the first King of Atlantis with the establishment of the Constitution of the Kingdom of Atlantis.

The Reign of King George (1789-1799)
King George changed the Confederate Congress into the Senate, a legislative body made up of 3 delegates from each provinces and have them to be open for election every 2 years and being lead by the Chancellor of the Senate. From the Senate, he established the position of the Councilors who serve as ministrial positions, establishing a functional executive government. After this reform, he largely left much of government functions alone to the Senate, believing that his work is done. He died in 1799 due to health issues and was succeeded by his son and the crown prince Joseph Washington the second King of Atlantis.

The Reign of King Joseph (1799-1825)
The reign of King Joseph was marked by relative prosperity and expansion of Atlantis. The policy of the dominant Democratic Party lead by Chancellor Thomas Jefferson and later James Madison were pro-agrarian and open to trade with other countries. Joseph's successful conquest into (what are today) Florida and Arkansas in 1815 lead to the two regions joining Atlantis with the natives there becoming citizens, showcasing Atlantis as a regional power in America. In 1823, Atlantis entered full diplomatic relations with the Azteks. King Joseph also encouraged literature and promoted the creation of public libriaries across the province to improve on literacy. His successful reign was described as an Era of Good Feelings. Joseph died in 1823 also due to health issues and was succeeded by his son George II.

The Reign of King George II (1825-1864)
George II's reign was marked with political instability. The collapse of the Democratic Party lead rise to two political factions stemming from the old party, the pro-industrialist Whigs lead by Kentucky Senator Henry Clay and the pro-agrarian Populists lead by Tennessee Senator Andrew Jackson. Due to the parties being competitive, the position of the Chancellor largely changed hands between parties in almost every elections. In 1848, the Whigs remained in power in the Senate and pursued industrialization, using coal from Virginia and Kentucky for industrialization with support from George II. The Whigs also pursued mechanization of agriculture which was less successful than their industrial project due to heavy opposition and was removed from power by the People's Party. George II's firstborn son George III died in a hunting accident and George II declared his second born son, Thomas to be the crown prince. George II died unexpectedly and the crown was passed down to Thomas.

The Reign of King Thomas (1864~)

Due to Thomas ascending to the throne at a relative young age of 13, his mother, Patricia Parkerson Washington, served as the Queen-regent until in 1869, when Thomas was of appropriate age to rule. Under the Queen-regent, the People's Party stayed in power promoting agrarian policies until in the 1868 election when the Whigs regained control of the Senate. When Thomas was of appropriate age to rule, he called for the Senate to improve his plan for infrastructure and military equipments, supporting the construction of railroads for quicker travel without the need for horses and improving on the current armory of the Atlantean Royal Army. The Senate approved of the measure and set up construction for railroads. The militarization was successful in some levels, purchasing newer breech-loading rifles and more modern cannons from Europe. However, the real success of the militarization came from the development of the Gatling Gun, created by North Carolinan inventor Richard Jordan Gatling, who invented such gun to lower the number of soldiers in the battlefield.

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :10 /10

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Postby Waztaskio » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:14 am

Tracian Empire wrote:And I accepted it assuming that you had actually edited your app, not just the quote. As soon as the app itself is edited, because that's what I must link to the OP, you can consider yourself accepted.

Original has been updated.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:15 am

Looks good to me, if it''s finished, I'll add it to the OP as soon as possible.
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