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Arbakovana-Venezia
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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:08 am

Atrilan wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:In EVERY Paradox Game the most powerful country in a faction is the war leader. So, if this RP worked like EUIV, which is a Paradox Game, then Serbia should be the war leader...


As I said before, I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion on this, as it is Entitaria who controls Slovenia.
Anyways, I am waiting for an actual point beside "You can't because Serbia has not been declared war upon"...

The point is that Entitaria and I discussed shot liike this six months ago, and agreed that allies of allies of defendants cannot enter in. No need to wait for Entitaria, I'm telling you this now.

And I agree with this. Unless we want a world-war scenario for the most insignificant of wars, it's better if we go with the EU4 system. However, could the Slavs send volunteers?

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Postby The Canadian North-West » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:09 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:No. The person that has the war declared upon it is the war leader, so Veneto is the war leader. You can attempt to ally with Veneto if you want to join in.

In EVERY Paradox Game the most powerful country in a faction is the war leader. So, if this RP worked like EUIV, which is a Paradox Game, then Serbia should be the war leader...

Atrilan wrote:Join into that war and you get banned, I don't have the patience to deal with irritating twits such as how you're acting now.

As I said before, I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion on this, as it is Entitaria who controls Slovenia.
Anyways, I am waiting for an actual point beside "You can't because Serbia has not been declared war upon"...

War leaders must call in their allies.
Allies are not immediately called in.
Even if Serbia were the war leader, they'd have to call you in first, which is not a certainty.
Besides, Italy already said they'd offer white peace to Slovenia+the rest of the Balkans.
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:10 am

Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:The point is that Entitaria and I discussed shot liike this six months ago, and agreed that allies of allies of defendants cannot enter in. No need to wait for Entitaria, I'm telling you this now.

And I agree with this. Unless we want a world-war scenario for the most insignificant of wars, it's better if we go with the EU4 system. However, could the Slavs send volunteers?

If we can call the Grom Division volunteers...
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:10 am

The Canadian North-West wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:In EVERY Paradox Game the most powerful country in a faction is the war leader. So, if this RP worked like EUIV, which is a Paradox Game, then Serbia should be the war leader...


As I said before, I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion on this, as it is Entitaria who controls Slovenia.
Anyways, I am waiting for an actual point beside "You can't because Serbia has not been declared war upon"...

War leaders must call in their allies.
Allies are not immediately called in.
Even if Serbia were the war leader, they'd have to call you in first, which is not a certainty.
Besides, Italy already said they'd offer white peace to Slovenia+the rest of the Balkans.

stop repeating things other ppl sed u parrot

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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:11 am

The Canadian North-West wrote:Besides, Italy already said they'd offer white peace to Slovenia+the rest of the Balkans.


And what I said was indeed that "IF THEY DO NOT, then I will enter", nothing else.
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
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Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby The Canadian North-West » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:14 am

Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:
The Canadian North-West wrote:War leaders must call in their allies.
Allies are not immediately called in.
Even if Serbia were the war leader, they'd have to call you in first, which is not a certainty.
Besides, Italy already said they'd offer white peace to Slovenia+the rest of the Balkans.

stop repeating things other ppl sed u parrot

I didn't know that that had already been said.

I kinda jumped in at the very end of the argument :T
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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:15 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
The Canadian North-West wrote:Besides, Italy already said they'd offer white peace to Slovenia+the rest of the Balkans.


And what I said was indeed that "IF THEY DO NOT, then I will enter", nothing else.

You can't enter unless Italy is intent on hurting one of your allies via treaty.

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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:16 am

CONGO CONGO CONGO, CONGO CONGO CONGO!
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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:17 am

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:CONGO CONGO CONGO, CONGO CONGO CONGO!

stop

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Postby Entitaria » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:18 am

Can you all shut the fuck up about this? Slav, you're acting like that annoying brat who doesn't get the answer he wants from his dad, so he ignores it and asks the mom. Even if the Balkan Confederation enters in the war, you can't. Rome did not declare war on any of your allies, they are just bound by the alliance to help. I don't give a shit if you're allied with Serbia, Bosnia, and Mont. they entered the war as allies and not as DIRECT defendants.
Silence is bliss, you should try it.

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:19 am

Entitaria wrote:Can you all shut the fuck up about this? Slav, you're acting like that annoying brat who doesn't get the answer he wants from his dad, so he ignores it and asks the mom. Even if the Balkan Confederation enters in the war, you can't. Rome did not declare war on any of your allies, they are just bound by the alliance to help. I don't give a shit if you're allied with Serbia, Bosnia, and Mont. they entered the war as allies and not as DIRECT defendants.

this^^

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Postby Atrilan » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:23 am

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:CONGO CONGO CONGO, CONGO CONGO CONGO!

You must bolster the Congolese dairy industry.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:31 am

Given that I always said "I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion", even before most of the RP kicked in... I am starting to think about sending some """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""volunteers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:37 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:Given that I always said "I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion", even before most of the RP kicked in... I am starting to think about sending some """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""volunteers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

You can do that... I believe. But not more than 100k. No volunteer force is over 100k.

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:45 am

GSU, I really suggest you proceed with caution concerning the Balkan issue. Entitaria's and Atrilan's word is final, and your attempts to reason with them has failed. I'm not sure volunteers are allowed in a huge number, or even at all, so talk about them with that.

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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:48 am

Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:GSU, I really suggest you proceed with caution concerning the Balkan issue. Entitaria's and Atrilan's word is final, and your attempts to reason with them has failed. I'm not sure volunteers are allowed in a huge number, or even at all, so talk about them with that.

I am waiting. Indeed, what I did was ASKING them, not saying "You know? I am going to put 753802759240857239058734250834750 volunteers there"...
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:49 am

If you want to get good commanders...

Do not fret, the troublesome trio of Latin America can't possibly become more experienced.

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:51 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:
Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:GSU, I really suggest you proceed with caution concerning the Balkan issue. Entitaria's and Atrilan's word is final, and your attempts to reason with them has failed. I'm not sure volunteers are allowed in a huge number, or even at all, so talk about them with that.

I am waiting. Indeed, what I did was ASKING them, not saying "You know? I am going to put 753802759240857239058734250834750 volunteers there"...

A lot of your OOC and IC contains rhetoric, making it require interpretation and therefore makes people like me not understand as well, because am stoopid

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Postby Atrilan » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:53 am

Greater Slavic Union wrote:Given that I always said "I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion", even before most of the RP kicked in... I am starting to think about sending some """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""volunteers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

We count that as mitaristic intervention.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
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Postby Greater Slavic Union » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:55 am

Atrilan wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:Given that I always said "I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion", even before most of the RP kicked in... I am starting to think about sending some """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""volunteers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

We count that as mitaristic intervention.

So I cannot say "Ok guys, we as a country cannot intervene, but you normal people can do that: go there, buy weapons, and fight"?
Official Name: ZápadoSłováńský Králevství
Population: 124.480.112

King: Král Michal I Kolovrát
Population growth: 2,3%

Queen: Královna Klaudia Katmařková-Kolovrátová
PPP GDP: 5.848 billion SK (Slavic Krunas)

Heirs: Crown Prince Oleg, Crown Princess Sylvia,
Warsaw Dukess Oksana, Prince of Prague Paveł
Nominal GDP: 3.868 billion USD

Current Royal Family: Kolovrát House
Fertility Index: 2,1 childs per woman

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:56 am

Atrilan wrote:
Greater Slavic Union wrote:Given that I always said "I am waiting for Entitaria's opinion", even before most of the RP kicked in... I am starting to think about sending some """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""volunteers""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

We count that as mitaristic intervention.

Volunteers have been used in many conflicts across the world, especially if it involves a radical ideology such as fascism or communism. One great example is the Spanish Civil War, or the Second Sino-Japanese War.

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:04 am

Brazil... I highly doubt you're going to get the world's tallest building. Neither are you going to quickly improve just by saying you are. You have to sacrifice things like low tax rates and tariffs to improve quickly, saying just that you're going to improve by making a plan won't get anything done.
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Postby Laiwo » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:27 pm

Uh... I know I'm not in but I just want to say something. Couldn't the Slavic guy join disband his alliance and join the Balkan Confederation, making him a direct combatant in the war?
My nation completely reflects my political ideals. We should be a stupid and primitive society because humanity, amirite?

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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:28 pm

Laiwo wrote:Uh... I know I'm not in but I just want to say something. Couldn't the Slavic guy join disband his alliance and join the Balkan Confederation, making him a direct combatant in the war?

He has to ask Veneto.

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Postby Entitaria » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:30 pm

Brazil, robotics are completely blocked until 2050, and it is EXTREMELY unlikely you will spearhead the field.
Silence is bliss, you should try it.

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