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Atrilan
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:39 am

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:Well, you still have to equip your Janissaries. Also, you have to worry about maintenance, pay, research and development, etc. Even if I completely exclude the non-combatants, and ignore the Janissaries pay (Why the hell aren't you paying them?) You get a total of $79,045,000,000 dollars spent on personnel alone.

You do realise that my military budget in total is £221 billion? I remain quite flexible still, and the Janissaries do not receive pay because they are servants of the monarch. Maintenance costs are covered elsewhere, in a further reform I will detail it. Building a country from the ground up is a very hard practice, especially with all the new administration I have to do. Remember, I do not spend all of this money annually, however the surplus goes towards Prahomija's own personal research projects, and other projects she selects as eligible for extra funding.


I read

"RESULT: The military budget for paying, and keeping solders sustained with a source of income is to be raised to $130 billion. This will work on completely revolutionising the Pramilandertan soldier to become a keen rival, or even superior to those in the USA and URE, and a proper declaration that Pramilandert fields a professional army now."

As the total military being 130 billion.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
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Turkacia
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Founded: Jan 28, 2017
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 11:43 am

Atrilan wrote:
Turkacia wrote:You do realise that my military budget in total is £221 billion? I remain quite flexible still, and the Janissaries do not receive pay because they are servants of the monarch. Maintenance costs are covered elsewhere, in a further reform I will detail it. Building a country from the ground up is a very hard practice, especially with all the new administration I have to do. Remember, I do not spend all of this money annually, however the surplus goes towards Prahomija's own personal research projects, and other projects she selects as eligible for extra funding.


I read

"RESULT: The military budget for paying, and keeping solders sustained with a source of income is to be raised to $130 billion. This will work on completely revolutionising the Pramilandertan soldier to become a keen rival, or even superior to those in the USA and URE, and a proper declaration that Pramilandert fields a professional army now."

As the total military being 130 billion.


As 2051 approaches, the country, including its generals, commanders, statisticians and even Prahomija herself have approved of the current military budget, which totals to about £221 billion. This budget funds about 36,000 armoured vehicles, including mine protected vehicles, tanks, armoured fighting vehicles, armoured personal carriers and mobile artillery, most based on models made before hand. About 187,000 Leaping Foxes have also been produced in the time they have been around, serving to replace the older FUL-JAZI901 'Leaping Fox' light armed jeeps, or at least phase out the older models. About half of the 98,000 produced FUL-JAZI901s are to be sold or scrapped for extra revenue to introduce the newer vehicles. A specific list has been issued, showing all vehicles in use by the Andalusian Royal Army, including air vehicles and naval assets.

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:46 am

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:
I read

"RESULT: The military budget for paying, and keeping solders sustained with a source of income is to be raised to $130 billion. This will work on completely revolutionising the Pramilandertan soldier to become a keen rival, or even superior to those in the USA and URE, and a proper declaration that Pramilandert fields a professional army now."

As the total military being 130 billion.


As 2051 approaches, the country, including its generals, commanders, statisticians and even Prahomija herself have approved of the current military budget, which totals to about £221 billion. This budget funds about 36,000 armoured vehicles, including mine protected vehicles, tanks, armoured fighting vehicles, armoured personal carriers and mobile artillery, most based on models made before hand. About 187,000 Leaping Foxes have also been produced in the time they have been around, serving to replace the older FUL-JAZI901 'Leaping Fox' light armed jeeps, or at least phase out the older models. About half of the 98,000 produced FUL-JAZI901s are to be sold or scrapped for extra revenue to introduce the newer vehicles. A specific list has been issued, showing all vehicles in use by the Andalusian Royal Army, including air vehicles and naval assets.

God damn it, do you know how much maintenance that will cost? That's very vehicle heavy.
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Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
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Turkacia
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Founded: Jan 28, 2017
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:01 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Turkacia wrote:
As 2051 approaches, the country, including its generals, commanders, statisticians and even Prahomija herself have approved of the current military budget, which totals to about £221 billion. This budget funds about 36,000 armoured vehicles, including mine protected vehicles, tanks, armoured fighting vehicles, armoured personal carriers and mobile artillery, most based on models made before hand. About 187,000 Leaping Foxes have also been produced in the time they have been around, serving to replace the older FUL-JAZI901 'Leaping Fox' light armed jeeps, or at least phase out the older models. About half of the 98,000 produced FUL-JAZI901s are to be sold or scrapped for extra revenue to introduce the newer vehicles. A specific list has been issued, showing all vehicles in use by the Andalusian Royal Army, including air vehicles and naval assets.

God damn it, do you know how much maintenance that will cost? That's very vehicle heavy.

I can pay for it, and I'm very sure once you see the list you will think otherwise.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Tue May 02, 2017 12:03 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:God damn it, do you know how much maintenance that will cost? That's very vehicle heavy.

I can pay for it, and I'm very sure once you see the list you will think otherwise.

I demand clay.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Turkacia
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:07 pm

Apror wrote:
Turkacia wrote:I can pay for it, and I'm very sure once you see the list you will think otherwise.

I demand clay.

Ok mate, let's go to America :D

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Tue May 02, 2017 12:07 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Apror wrote:I demand clay.

Ok mate, let's go to America :D

*looks at America*
What I believe?
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2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:17 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:God damn it, do you know how much maintenance that will cost? That's very vehicle heavy.

I can pay for it, and I'm very sure once you see the list you will think otherwise.

How, exactly? Because you have more vehicles than the US real life (limited research on a school laptop, so I may be wrong) and the US spends nearly $200 billion on operations and maintenance.
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Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Turkacia
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:31 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Turkacia wrote:I can pay for it, and I'm very sure once you see the list you will think otherwise.

How, exactly? Because you have more vehicles than the US real life (limited research on a school laptop, so I may be wrong) and the US spends nearly $200 billion on operations and maintenance.

I do not have as many international bases to maintain as the US, nor a nuclear arsenal as large, and it's also because of the fact that I have a department devoted to creating war material, rather than employing private companies. I could also point out administrative efficiency, the lower worth of Pramilanderti products due to the manufacturing methods and price ceilings so people can actually buy them in the regional vicinity... a lot of things. My mil budget is $300BN. I also have a MUCH smaller navy than USA in real life, which is what takes up much of the maintenance budget of the US.

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Atrilan
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:39 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:How, exactly? Because you have more vehicles than the US real life (limited research on a school laptop, so I may be wrong) and the US spends nearly $200 billion on operations and maintenance.

I do not have as many international bases to maintain as the US, nor a nuclear arsenal as large, and it's also because of the fact that I have a department devoted to creating war material, rather than employing private companies. I could also point out administrative efficiency, the lower worth of Pramilanderti products due to the manufacturing methods and price ceilings so people can actually buy them in the regional vicinity... a lot of things. My mil budget is $300BN. I also have a MUCH smaller navy than USA in real life, which is what takes up much of the maintenance budget of the US.

You just said that your budget is $285 billion.
Last edited by Atrilan 13.7 billion years ago, edited 73 times in total.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Turkacia
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Founded: Jan 28, 2017
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:41 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Turkacia wrote:I do not have as many international bases to maintain as the US, nor a nuclear arsenal as large, and it's also because of the fact that I have a department devoted to creating war material, rather than employing private companies. I could also point out administrative efficiency, the lower worth of Pramilanderti products due to the manufacturing methods and price ceilings so people can actually buy them in the regional vicinity... a lot of things. My mil budget is $300BN. I also have a MUCH smaller navy than USA in real life, which is what takes up much of the maintenance budget of the US.

You just said that your budget is $285 billion.

Do you honestly think I care about the current conversion rates between the pound and dollar?

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Tue May 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Oh boy, what's this argument about?
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Barbaziun
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Founded: Mar 06, 2017
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Postby Barbaziun » Tue May 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Yo my dudes... wez be in a lockdown. SHHH dont tell anyone haha
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Galactacia - PLANNED
A Test Of Steel - Vargshal
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Atrilan
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:45 pm

Barbaziun wrote:Yo my dudes... wez be in a lockdown. SHHH dont tell anyone haha

Wait, that's what that email was?

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:You just said that your budget is $285 billion.

Do you honestly think I care about the current conversion rates between the pound and dollar?

That's several billion dollars. And yes, I do assume that you care enough to Google "pound to USD"
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Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
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Entitaria
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Founded: Jul 06, 2016
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Postby Entitaria » Tue May 02, 2017 12:48 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:You just said that your budget is $285 billion.

Do you honestly think I care about the current conversion rates between the pound and dollar?

You probably should
Silence is bliss, you should try it.

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Barbaziun
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Founded: Mar 06, 2017
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Postby Barbaziun » Tue May 02, 2017 12:49 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Barbaziun wrote:Yo my dudes... wez be in a lockdown. SHHH dont tell anyone haha

Wait, that's what that email was?

Email? Idk we were in gym and they like ushered us inside. Now the lights are out haha. Im in Longs.
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Leader - Bjorngulf
Capital - Belgsstaoir
Population - 1.159 billion
Currency - Hacksilvers
Roleplay Information
International Warfare - The Empire Of China
Galactacia - PLANNED
A Test Of Steel - Vargshal
Name -

THE VIKING TRIBE OF BARBAZIUN
COBALT NETWORK OFFICIAL VIKING
Est. 800 A.D
Viking Age

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:50 pm

Barbaziun wrote:
Atrilan wrote:Wait, that's what that email was?

Email? Idk we were in gym and they like ushered us inside. Now the lights are out haha. Im in Longs.

There was an announcement that the teachers got an "urgent email."
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Turkacia
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Founded: Jan 28, 2017
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Postby Turkacia » Tue May 02, 2017 12:51 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Turkacia wrote:Do you honestly think I care about the current conversion rates between the pound and dollar?

You probably should

But whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Barbaziun
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Postby Barbaziun » Tue May 02, 2017 12:52 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Barbaziun wrote:Email? Idk we were in gym and they like ushered us inside. Now the lights are out haha. Im in Longs.

There was an announcement that the teachers got an "urgent email."

Oh yeah I guess. Did you see this urgent email?
National Information
Leader - Bjorngulf
Capital - Belgsstaoir
Population - 1.159 billion
Currency - Hacksilvers
Roleplay Information
International Warfare - The Empire Of China
Galactacia - PLANNED
A Test Of Steel - Vargshal
Name -

THE VIKING TRIBE OF BARBAZIUN
COBALT NETWORK OFFICIAL VIKING
Est. 800 A.D
Viking Age

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Paste this in your Sig if you passed Biology and know Gender and Sex are the same thing ♀♂

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Pacificora
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Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Tue May 02, 2017 4:39 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Pacificora wrote:You are aware that you aren't invading the Bahamas...

And do you know how much infamy you are gathering up?

That's because of the old infamy system, which was quite frankly, horrible. Besides, a civil war will not spark as long as there is no real disturbance to the citizenry.

WE are using the new infamy system that you create, so don't complain about it anymore
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Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
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2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
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"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Entitaria
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Founded: Jul 06, 2016
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Postby Entitaria » Tue May 02, 2017 5:23 pm

Turkacia wrote:
Entitaria wrote:You probably should

But whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Because if you keep changing figures no one knows what to use
Silence is bliss, you should try it.

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 5:26 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Turkacia wrote:But whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Because if you keep changing figures no one knows what to use

How many candidates should I have for each party in the primaries?
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Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Like-Minded Godly States
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Founded: Mar 31, 2017
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Postby Like-Minded Godly States » Tue May 02, 2017 5:33 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Entitaria wrote:Because if you keep changing figures no one knows what to use

How many candidates should I have for each party in the primaries?

Average of five I'd say

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Tue May 02, 2017 5:38 pm

Like-Minded Godly States wrote:
Atrilan wrote:How many candidates should I have for each party in the primaries?

Average of five I'd say

But that means I have to do 25 speeches...
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National Information
Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Like-Minded Godly States
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Posts: 610
Founded: Mar 31, 2017
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Postby Like-Minded Godly States » Tue May 02, 2017 5:45 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Like-Minded Godly States wrote:Average of five I'd say

But that means I have to do 25 speeches...

Oh... oh no...
Average of 1 I'd say

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