Imperium Aeternum [AH/OOC/OPEN]

[The V O I D]

Lots of medicinal talk n stuff. Cool.

Anyways, so, as to the 'world war' we're all probably planning to do - does having it happen sometime after the conclusion of the Japanese Conference and stuff make sense?

[Prusslandia]

Lots of medicinal talk n stuff. Cool.

Anyways, so, as to the 'world war' we're all probably planning to do - does having it happen sometime after the conclusion of the Japanese Conference and stuff make sense?

I'd say so- tensions/arguments during the conference can lead to confrontations and eventually war.

[Khasinkonia]

The Khan can assist in that matter.

It'll take a long time before the Mongols can seriously challenge the army of a country three times their population and three times their economic output, even if Scandinavia backs their modernisation effort and nobody backs the Chinese one.

More likely than not, Japan will back the Chinese modernisation effort and the two of you'll get stuck in a red queen's race.

Japan's game plan is this:
1. Be nice and friendly to the ambassadors
2. Negotiate for reasonable deals
3. Send the representatives home with bumper stickers for their ships
4. Colonise everything possible
5. ?
6. Profit
7. Buy stuff
8. Repeat from step 4

[Khasinkonia]

Lots of medicinal talk n stuff. Cool.

Anyways, so, as to the 'world war' we're all probably planning to do - does having it happen sometime after the conclusion of the Japanese Conference and stuff make sense?

I'd say so- tensions/arguments during the conference can lead to confrontations and eventually war.

Japan will probably pull a USSR and wait until the time is right to pop in. The meat grinder is not fun.

[The V O I D]

Lots of medicinal talk n stuff. Cool.

Anyways, so, as to the 'world war' we're all probably planning to do - does having it happen sometime after the conclusion of the Japanese Conference and stuff make sense?

I'd say so- tensions/arguments during the conference can lead to confrontations and eventually war.

Sounds good. I feel like the main contenders will be Rome/Byzantium, Tang and Japan vs Mongolia as definitive members.

Germania will likely lean Rome and / or form its own faction, of which Sweden may or may not join. And Russia's a wild card.

As for the nations in the Americas, they get to stay out of the war for the most part and could likely take the time to fully secede from the Empire (though this may be unwise due to their lack of established infrastructure and such just yet). It will definitely shake Roman influence, regardless.

[Plzen]

-snip-

Well, start the conference! >_<;;

I think it'll be safe to skip the preliminaries and get right down to the negotiations, since that storyline is already a week or two behind the other IC storylines I'm taking care of.

Japan will probably pull a USSR and wait until the time is right to pop in. The meat grinder is not fun.

Scandinavia will probably stay neutral, except possibly intervening to restore order in the event that Germania collapses under the strain of war (like they did IRL in WWI).

[Khasinkonia]

-snip-

Well, start the conference! >_<;;

I think it'll be safe to skip the preliminaries and get right down to the negotiations, since that storyline is already a week or two behind the other IC storylines I'm taking care of.

Japan will probably pull a USSR and wait until the time is right to pop in. The meat grinder is not fun.

Scandinavia will probably stay neutral, except possibly intervening to restore order in the event that Germania collapses under the strain of war (like they did IRL in WWI).

Okay. I'll get to it in my next post.

[The V O I D]

On another note, this upcoming and brewing war feels like something that'd happen in Mass Effect.

Rome and Byzantium (and friends!) are the Citadel Council, Japan is the Human Systems Alliance, and Mongolia is the Terminus Systems.

And now, because the Alliance decided to try to get extra friendly with the Council and this eventually pisses off the Batarian Hegemony (Mongolia still), there's about to be a "galaxy-wide" shitshow.

This, after centuries of mostly peace. Mostly.

[Khasinkonia]

On another note, this upcoming and brewing war feels like something that'd happen in Mass Effect.

Rome and Byzantium (and friends!) are the Citadel Council, Japan is the Human Systems Alliance, and Mongolia is the Terminus Systems.

And now, because the Alliance decided to try to get extra friendly with the Council and this eventually pisses off the Batarian Hegemony (Mongolia still), there's about to be a "galaxy-wide" shitshow.

This, after centuries of mostly peace. Mostly.

Mongolians do not have a very sound track record with boats. I expect about half of the Mongol navy to make it out of the harbours. Maybe a few ships will get to Japan, if they're lucky.

Islands are awesome. Even the mighty Romans had a dickens of a time invading Britannia.

[The V O I D]

On another note, this upcoming and brewing war feels like something that'd happen in Mass Effect.

Rome and Byzantium (and friends!) are the Citadel Council, Japan is the Human Systems Alliance, and Mongolia is the Terminus Systems.

And now, because the Alliance decided to try to get extra friendly with the Council and this eventually pisses off the Batarian Hegemony (Mongolia still), there's about to be a "galaxy-wide" shitshow.

This, after centuries of mostly peace. Mostly.

Mongolians do not have a very sound track record with boats. I expect about half of the Mongol navy to make it out of the harbours. Maybe a few ships will get to Japan, if they're lucky.

And while they're busy with you, Byzantium (with Roman reinforcements) will literally counter-steamroll them from the west and use superior naval power to circle them.

We'll likely give Mongolia's Chinese territory to the Tang, except Korea and Manchuria/siberia/alaska. Those go to Japan. The rest of Mongolian territory'd get freed up for more nations.

*note: this is an ideal situation and may or may not happen in the rp.*

[The V O I D]

On another note, this upcoming and brewing war feels like something that'd happen in Mass Effect.

Rome and Byzantium (and friends!) are the Citadel Council, Japan is the Human Systems Alliance, and Mongolia is the Terminus Systems.

And now, because the Alliance decided to try to get extra friendly with the Council and this eventually pisses off the Batarian Hegemony (Mongolia still), there's about to be a "galaxy-wide" shitshow.

This, after centuries of mostly peace. Mostly.

Islands are awesome. Even the mighty Romans had a dickens of a time invading Britannia.

And now, we have a navy that is in a constant dickwaving contest with Byzantium's navy.

[Khasinkonia]

Mongolians do not have a very sound track record with boats. I expect about half of the Mongol navy to make it out of the harbours. Maybe a few ships will get to Japan, if they're lucky.

And while they're busy with you, Byzantium (with Roman reinforcements) will literally counter-steamroll them from the west and use superior naval power to circle them.

We'll likely give Mongolia's Chinese territory to the Tang, except Korea and Manchuria/siberia/alaska. Those go to Japan. The rest of Mongolian territory'd get freed up for more nations.

*note: this is an ideal situation and may or may not happen in the rp.*

The Empress proceeds to rub her hands together greedily.
"Yes, my precious, yes. More resources! Japan will become a glorious empire worthy of Roman Caesars!"

[The V O I D]

And while they're busy with you, Byzantium (with Roman reinforcements) will literally counter-steamroll them from the west and use superior naval power to circle them.

We'll likely give Mongolia's Chinese territory to the Tang, except Korea and Manchuria/siberia/alaska. Those go to Japan. The rest of Mongolian territory'd get freed up for more nations.

*note: this is an ideal situation and may or may not happen in the rp.*

The Empress proceeds to rub her hands together greedily.
"Yes, my precious, yes. More resources! Japan will become a glorious empire worthy of Roman Caesars!"

I feel like Rome and Byzantium are these twin guys that Japan is hitting on, and they both keep unintentionally giving her gifts and hints that they are attracted to her, and she thinks she's going to get lucky at some point, but its actually all in her head.

[Prusslandia]

Mongolians do not have a very sound track record with boats. I expect about half of the Mongol navy to make it out of the harbours. Maybe a few ships will get to Japan, if they're lucky.

And while they're busy with you, Byzantium (with Roman reinforcements) will literally counter-steamroll them from the west and use superior naval power to circle them.

We'll likely give Mongolia's Chinese territory to the Tang, except Korea and Manchuria/siberia/alaska. Those go to Japan. The rest of Mongolian territory'd get freed up for more nations.

*note: this is an ideal situation and may or may not happen in the rp.*

*Watches the regimented armies of the Romans and Byzantines fall to the might of Guerilla warfare and Asian blitzkrieg. Also, Horde warfare.

[Khasinkonia]

The Empress proceeds to rub her hands together greedily.
"Yes, my precious, yes. More resources! Japan will become a glorious empire worthy of Roman Caesars!"

I feel like Rome and Byzantium are these twin guys that Japan is hitting on, and they both keep unintentionally giving her gifts and hints that they are attracted to her, and she thinks she's going to get lucky at some point, but its actually all in her head.

Pretty much, though I think Japan thinks that she'll use Rome to get what she wants eventually, since they don't care for the Byzantines, and the Byzantines share the feeling. And neither end knows that they have literally no idea what the other side actually thinks.

Eventually, either China, Germany, Scandinavia, or maybe Mongolia will step in to point out that they have no idea what message they're sending to the other.

[The V O I D]

I feel like Rome and Byzantium are these twin guys that Japan is hitting on, and they both keep unintentionally giving her gifts and hints that they are attracted to her, and she thinks she's going to get lucky at some point, but its actually all in her head.

Pretty much, though I think Japan thinks that she'll use Rome to get what she wants eventually, since they don't care for the Byzantines, and the Byzantines share the feeling. And neither end knows that they have literally no idea what the other side actually thinks.

Eventually, either China, Germany, Scandinavia, or maybe Mongolia will step in to point out that they have no idea what message they're sending to the other.

Yeah. They're all like outside friends who know the twins and the chick who come in and smash everyone's perspective's to bits with some cold hard reality check.

[Plzen]

Anybody that tries to invade Mongolia will have to fight the terrain as much as they'll have to fight the actual Mongolian army. Same goes for the Aztecs and Incas.

The Scandinavian navy will stay out of that contest in Asia. We'll really only use our navy to suppress uncivs, if need be.

[Kazarogkai]

Maybe, though potatoes already exist and true yams(not sweet potatoes) don't seem to have been super popular outside their home regions(africa, east asia). But heck things may change. Give it a try they might bite. Culture and peoples taste in food is not a set thing they can change given different parameters.

I always found yams to be strange. One developed in west africa, the other somewhere in mongolia/northern china yet they are independent and not derived from one another. So wierd. Same thing applies to rice with it's roughly 3 independent strains(mississippi, chinese, and african) of which 2 were domesticated. Life is weird.

I imagine this becoming a documentary or something of the sort.

"NatGeo presents: The Secret Travels of Rice & Yams"

LMAO

I don't even know why that made me laugh.

[Khasinkonia]

Anybody that tries to invade Mongolia will have to fight the terrain as much as they'll have to fight the actual Mongolian army. Same goes for the Aztecs and Incas.

The Scandinavian navy will stay out of that contest in Asia. We'll really only use our navy to suppress uncivs, if need be.

Just a little port here, a bit of farmland there. And tribute. Tribute is always a plus.
Japan may not be a Superpower just yet, but they're still the masters of the Pacific Ocean.

[Plzen]

Just a little port here, a bit of farmland there. And tribute. Tribute is always a plus.
Japan may not be a Superpower just yet, but they're still the masters of the Pacific Ocean.

I mean, if you mess with our investments, we'll certainly get fairly angry.

[Khasinkonia]

Just a little port here, a bit of farmland there. And tribute. Tribute is always a plus.
Japan may not be a Superpower just yet, but they're still the masters of the Pacific Ocean.

I mean, if you mess with our investments, we'll certainly get fairly angry.

Japan's interests mostly lie in the Americas. I was specifically referring to taking small bits of land on the coast from the Aztecs and Incans to use as ports and trading posts, much like European countries did with China. Those ports may grow, however.

The Romans are the only people I expect to mind, though I think that someone smacking the Aztecs where they least expect it might be more of a plus to them than a minus.

[Plzen]

IC post is up.

tl;dr - Scandinavia develops a coherent East Asia strategy, that speech that I put up in the OOC thread is made, and labour wins a significant political victory.

[Khasinkonia]

IC post is up.

tl;dr - Scandinavia develops a coherent East Asia strategy, that speech that I put up in the OOC thread is made, and labour wins a significant political victory.

They forget to account for the wild card
Japan.

[Plzen]

They forget to account for the wild card
Japan.

The assumption made was that Japan will keep sticking to its neutrality.

"Correct or not - that is my assessment."

and we will act accordingly.

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So, any thoughts on the 1840 Scandinavian elections? Any party you particularly want to see winning/losing?

[Khasinkonia]

They forget to account for the wild card
Japan.

The assumption made was that Japan will keep sticking to its neutrality.

"Correct or not - that is my assessment."

and we will act accordingly.

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So, any thoughts on the 1840 Scandinavian elections? Any party you particularly want to see winning/losing?

Fascist-esque nationalists aren't fun to deal with, so I'd say that I like the current system.

Now what happens when we assume?
I think we all know this saying.