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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:17 am

Gorbatov wrote:
Gorbatov wrote:Fixing my claim rn.

Yeah, no problem.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Gorbatov
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Postby Gorbatov » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:20 am

"The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists for while we maintain such a stand the enemy cannot and will never force us to our knees.."
-Enver Hoxha-

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:22 am

Gorbatov wrote:Fixed my Claim
https://i.imgur.com/x3gYSLH.png

Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Gorbatov
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Postby Gorbatov » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:26 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Gorbatov wrote:Fixed my Claim
https://i.imgur.com/x3gYSLH.png

Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.

Okie Comrade, planning to killing of Trotsky, whom wanted global revolution, and as a Stalinist, I hate Trotsky.
"The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists for while we maintain such a stand the enemy cannot and will never force us to our knees.."
-Enver Hoxha-

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:33 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Gorbatov wrote:Fixed my Claim
https://i.imgur.com/x3gYSLH.png

Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.

Hey, if this Soviet guy gets accepted, mind if I boost my population and arms a bit from imperialists and aristocrats fleeing the revolution? Only by a few hundred thousand, mind you.
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- Gustav Noske, in the face of the Communist Revolution of 1919 in Berlin

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:36 am

Trotza wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.

Hey, if this Soviet guy gets accepted, mind if I boost my population and arms a bit from imperialists and aristocrats fleeing the revolution? Only by a few hundred thousand, mind you.

It's okay
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Gorbatov
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Postby Gorbatov » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:38 am

Trotza wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.

Hey, if this Soviet guy gets accepted, mind if I boost my population and arms a bit from imperialists and aristocrats fleeing the revolution? Only by a few hundred thousand, mind you.

My Tachankas r cming for u! But tbh, probably we wouldn't care about Kamchatka & Alaska, we would just focus on affairs in the country.
Last edited by Gorbatov on Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:41 am, edited 2 times in total.
"The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists for while we maintain such a stand the enemy cannot and will never force us to our knees.."
-Enver Hoxha-

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Zostra
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Founded: May 27, 2016
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Postby Zostra » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:41 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Gorbatov wrote:Fixed my Claim
https://i.imgur.com/x3gYSLH.png

Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.


Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.
I'm just a normal, functioning member of the human race and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise.
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
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Tracian Empire
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:43 am

Zostra wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.


Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

How exactly?
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:43 am

Zostra wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.


Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

Hopefully with super China they'll balance each other out.
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"If you like, someone has to be the bloodhound. I won't shy away from the responsibility."
- Gustav Noske, in the face of the Communist Revolution of 1919 in Berlin

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:44 am

Zostra wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Looks good. Reservation noted.

But as with all big claims, I am expecting the nations to be somewhat balanced. So no super industrial and super stable Russian war machine, ready to steamroll Europe.


Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

This is why I switched to AH's allegiance since it would be just boring if everyone sucked it up to the US and Russia, and being the underdog's always a welcoming challenge.

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:45 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Zostra wrote:
Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

How exactly?

I sent you a TG

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:45 am

Gorbatov wrote:
Trotza wrote:Hey, if this Soviet guy gets accepted, mind if I boost my population and arms a bit from imperialists and aristocrats fleeing the revolution? Only by a few hundred thousand, mind you.

My Tachankas r cming for u! But tbh, probably we wouldn't care about Kamchatka & Alaska, we would just focus on affairs in the country.

You would massacre native Russian tribal people simply trying to live their lives? Perish the thought! Or just stick to your affairs, that'll work too...
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"If you like, someone has to be the bloodhound. I won't shy away from the responsibility."
- Gustav Noske, in the face of the Communist Revolution of 1919 in Berlin

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Dires
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Founded: Aug 16, 2011
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Postby Dires » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:46 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Zostra wrote:
Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

How exactly?


He doesn't really seem to give himself any weaknesses. I'm a strong modern state after 24 years of constant reform but I'm not claiming to have the highest quality troops, at least, not with the main bulk of my military.
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Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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Tracian Empire
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:47 am

Trotza wrote:
Zostra wrote:
Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

Hopefully with super China they'll balance each other out.

Well, at least from what I understood, super China is still far from Western standards.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Tracian Empire
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:47 am

Dires wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:How exactly?


He doesn't really seem to give himself any weaknesses. I'm a strong modern state after 24 years of constant reform but I'm not claiming to have the highest quality troops, at least, not with the main bulk of my military.

Wasn't he an ethnic disaster like Austria?
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Zostra
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Founded: May 27, 2016
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Postby Zostra » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:48 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Zostra wrote:
Not to be rude, but Tondo seems to suffer from this a little bit.

How exactly?


Country with a huge population, covers an entire region, large world-class military, one of the largest manufacturing sectors backed by abundant natural resources, and stable democratic governance. Like Dires said, no real weaknesses. Although as Trotza and The Alps Confederation say, they are bordering two large, powerful nations which mitigates that somewhat.
I'm just a normal, functioning member of the human race and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise.
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.9

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:50 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Dires wrote:
He doesn't really seem to give himself any weaknesses. I'm a strong modern state after 24 years of constant reform but I'm not claiming to have the highest quality troops, at least, not with the main bulk of my military.

Wasn't he an ethnic disaster like Austria?

Exactly, who knows; an ethnic revolution or two might pop up for the other powers to take advantage of.

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:50 am

Zostra wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:How exactly?


Country with a huge population, covers an entire region, large world-class military, one of the largest manufacturing sectors backed by abundant natural resources, and stable democratic governance. Like Dires said, no real weaknesses. Although as Trotza and The Alps Confederation say, they are bordering two large, powerful nations which mitigates that somewhat.

I wouldn't exactly call it entirely "democratic" considering this is a Liberal Autocracy.

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Gorbatov
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Postby Gorbatov » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:51 am

Trotza wrote:
Gorbatov wrote:My Tachankas r cming for u! But tbh, probably we wouldn't care about Kamchatka & Alaska, we would just focus on affairs in the country.

You would massacre native Russian tribal people simply trying to live their lives? Perish the thought! Or just stick to your affairs, that'll work too...

Aristocrats = Tribal People...Hillarious :rofl:
"The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists for while we maintain such a stand the enemy cannot and will never force us to our knees.."
-Enver Hoxha-

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Zostra
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Postby Zostra » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:52 am

The Alps Confederation wrote:
Zostra wrote:
Country with a huge population, covers an entire region, large world-class military, one of the largest manufacturing sectors backed by abundant natural resources, and stable democratic governance. Like Dires said, no real weaknesses. Although as Trotza and The Alps Confederation say, they are bordering two large, powerful nations which mitigates that somewhat.

I wouldn't exactly call it entirely "democratic" considering this is a Liberal Autocracy.

My mistake, I thought it said you adopted US governance in general not just the concept of federalism.
I'm just a normal, functioning member of the human race and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise.
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.9

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Dires
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Postby Dires » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:52 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Trotza wrote:Hopefully with super China they'll balance each other out.

Well, at least from what I understood, super China is still far from Western standards.


I think we need to clarify this. In terms of civil society and advanced science, yes. But we're there in terms of education, production, and agriculture, and overall military strength. My military is decent, I don't see why it wouldn't be up to Western standards - I've had 24 years. That's more than the Meiji had. My production is not as efficient or as high quality as the West but I have massive scales.
Last edited by Dires on Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Political Compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:53 am

Zostra wrote:
The Alps Confederation wrote:I wouldn't exactly call it entirely "democratic" considering this is a Liberal Autocracy.

My mistake, I thought it said you adopted US governance in general not just the concept of federalism.

I am similar to AH's governance.

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The Alps Confederation
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Postby The Alps Confederation » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:55 am

Dires wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, at least from what I understood, super China is still far from Western standards.


I think we need to clarify this. In terms of civil society and advanced science, yes. But we're there in terms of education, production, and agriculture. My military is decent, I don't see why it wouldn't be up to Western standards - I've had 24 years. That's more than the Meiji had. My production is not as efficient or as high quality as the West but I have massive scales.

As I said; f@ckton of different ethnicities and languages (worse than AH) and Islands splitting up the Armed Forces doesn't make me OP.

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Dires
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Postby Dires » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:57 am

The Alps Confederation wrote:
Dires wrote:
I think we need to clarify this. In terms of civil society and advanced science, yes. But we're there in terms of education, production, and agriculture. My military is decent, I don't see why it wouldn't be up to Western standards - I've had 24 years. That's more than the Meiji had. My production is not as efficient or as high quality as the West but I have massive scales.

As I said; f@ckton of different ethnicities and languages (worse than AH) and Islands splitting up the Armed Forces doesn't make me OP.


Fair enough.
Role-Plays:

Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/400019/

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