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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:32 pm

Imperial Idaho wrote:
Chewion wrote:I am not mobilizing my military yet. I am just preparing.

If I recall Japan has a limit placed on its army size from WW2, mainly in that it can't have one. Just a defense force with the US being its army. I'm not sure of the numbers but I'm sure 500,000 soldiers is over it. Your first steps ought to be appealing to the international community to repeal the limit.

My app has that in there. I repealed article 9.
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Postby Tabret » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:36 pm

This all seems to be too fast. 500,000 new recruits means a shit ton of money is going to be spent on troops that are just going to be standing there all day long doing nothing in particular.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:38 pm

Article 9 was the only limiting factor. This is because it was the constitution written for Japan by the US. So by having repealed it in past years I now have no limitations.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:39 pm

Tabret wrote:This all seems to be too fast. 500,000 new recruits means a shit ton of money is going to be spent on troops that are just going to be standing there all day long doing nothing in particular.

It's not all at once. It will be over several years.
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Postby Relikai » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:39 pm

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Your troops will only be ready in 2019 for basic operations.

No they already are. In my app I had a military build up occur in the past.


You said Recruit.

Do you know what is a Recruit?
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Postby Tabret » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:41 pm

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Tabret wrote:This all seems to be too fast. 500,000 new recruits means a shit ton of money is going to be spent on troops that are just going to be standing there all day long doing nothing in particular.

It's not all at once. It will be over several years.



But you said they were already ready.

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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:44 pm

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Chewion wrote:No they already are. In my app I had a military build up occur in the past.


You said Recruit.

Do you know what is a Recruit?

Oh you are talking about the 500k i am adding. I thought you meant my current troops.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:45 pm

Tabret wrote:
Chewion wrote:It's not all at once. It will be over several years.



But you said they were already ready.

No I said that they are starting the recruiting process.
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Postby Relikai » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:46 pm

Chewion wrote:
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You said Recruit.

Do you know what is a Recruit?

Oh you are talking about the 500k i am adding. I thought you meant my current troops.


Mhmm, and to do a recruitment drive on a mainly pacifist nation... :?
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Postby Tabret » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:47 pm

Ah ok I thought you were referring to the recruits and not the army.

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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:49 pm

Relikai wrote:
Chewion wrote:Oh you are talking about the 500k i am adding. I thought you meant my current troops.


Mhmm, and to do a recruitment drive on a mainly pacifist nation... :?

Again like I said this version of Japan is growing less pacifist.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:49 pm

Tabret wrote:Ah ok I thought you were referring to the recruits and not the army.

Yeah it's fine it was just a simple miscommunication. Who do you play IC?
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Postby Tabret » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:50 pm

Chewion wrote:
Tabret wrote:Ah ok I thought you were referring to the recruits and not the army.

Yeah it's fine it was just a simple miscommunication. Who do you play IC?


Turkey. Already fighting ISIS in the southeast.

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Postby Deramen » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:53 pm

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Relikai wrote:
Mhmm, and to do a recruitment drive on a mainly pacifist nation... :?

Again like I said this version of Japan is growing less pacifist.

Its moving too fast, as an OP I ask that you slow the hell down.

Too much change in too short a time.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:56 pm

Deramen wrote:
Chewion wrote:Again like I said this version of Japan is growing less pacifist.

Its moving too fast, as an OP I ask that you slow the hell down.

Too much change in too short a time.

Ok. I still have enough military to mobilize against ISIS. I will say they are a threat to the world to justify it. So how long should it take to recruit the extra 500k?
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:57 pm

Turkey you should call my character to discuss ISIS.
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Postby Deramen » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:05 pm

Chewion wrote:
Deramen wrote:Its moving too fast, as an OP I ask that you slow the hell down.

Too much change in too short a time.

Ok. I still have enough military to mobilize against ISIS. I will say they are a threat to the world to justify it. So how long should it take to recruit the extra 500k?

Look, Japan doesn't consider Isis that big a threat, and with Japan being pacifist its gonna take a hell of long time to raise 500k. You also have to remember Japans age is getting older while not reproducing to you'll have to deal with that as well.


That 500k would mobilize 1/254 of your population by my calculations. Which seems very unlikely. I recommend focusing on your economy before raising your millitary.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:09 pm

Look at all that war and whatnot going on in the mainland.

It sure is nice being an island in the middle of nowhere.

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Postby Imperial Idaho » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:16 pm

Chewion wrote:
Imperial Idaho wrote:If I recall Japan has a limit placed on its army size from WW2, mainly in that it can't have one. Just a defense force with the US being its army. I'm not sure of the numbers but I'm sure 500,000 soldiers is over it. Your first steps ought to be appealing to the international community to repeal the limit.

My app has that in there. I repealed article 9.

Ah, must've missed that.
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Postby Bentus » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:18 pm

Deramen wrote:Look, Japan doesn't consider Isis that big a threat, and with Japan being pacifist its gonna take a hell of long time to raise 500k. You also have to remember Japans age is getting older while not reproducing to you'll have to deal with that as well.

That 500k would mobilize 1/254 of your population by my calculations. Which seems very unlikely. I recommend focusing on your economy before raising your millitary.


Ditto with this really. Every action comes with reactions when dealing with alt. history. For instance, a massive military buildup would've gutted the Japanese government's budget, putting an end to any thought of a stimulus package for its stagnating economy - Abenomics would'be been an impossibility if my understanding of it is up to scratch.

On a side note, re: the whole handicap for global powers, what would you recommend for China? The Tibet situation could be something? Or maybe its growing tensions with neighbours and the US?
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Postby Anowa » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:20 pm

Bentus wrote:
Deramen wrote:Look, Japan doesn't consider Isis that big a threat, and with Japan being pacifist its gonna take a hell of long time to raise 500k. You also have to remember Japans age is getting older while not reproducing to you'll have to deal with that as well.

That 500k would mobilize 1/254 of your population by my calculations. Which seems very unlikely. I recommend focusing on your economy before raising your millitary.


Ditto with this really. Every action comes with reactions when dealing with alt. history. For instance, a massive military buildup would've gutted the Japanese government's budget, putting an end to any thought of a stimulus package for its stagnating economy - Abenomics would'be been an impossibility if my understanding of it is up to scratch.

On a side note, re: the whole handicap for global powers, what would you recommend for China? The Tibet situation could be something? Or maybe its growing tensions with neighbours and the US?

Well Tibet's currently got a border on the map. That could be worth something.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:27 pm

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Plzen wrote:Two weeks should be plenty. Keflavík Naval Air Base (what's left of it) is tiny and the transport capacity of the US Navy is huge.

Umm they have to find places for them. What your doing is really stupid.


Well, US has plenty of other more important and strategically located nations.

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Postby Sarejo » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:30 pm

Chewion wrote:
Deramen wrote:Its moving too fast, as an OP I ask that you slow the hell down.

Too much change in too short a time.

Ok. I still have enough military to mobilize against ISIS. I will say they are a threat to the world to justify it. So how long should it take to recruit the extra 500k?


Try upwards of 10 years to fully recruit, train, and equip those numbers mate. Military is sure as hell not cheap and fast.

Bentus wrote:
Deramen wrote:Look, Japan doesn't consider Isis that big a threat, and with Japan being pacifist its gonna take a hell of long time to raise 500k. You also have to remember Japans age is getting older while not reproducing to you'll have to deal with that as well.

That 500k would mobilize 1/254 of your population by my calculations. Which seems very unlikely. I recommend focusing on your economy before raising your millitary.


Ditto with this really. Every action comes with reactions when dealing with alt. history. For instance, a massive military buildup would've gutted the Japanese government's budget, putting an end to any thought of a stimulus package for its stagnating economy - Abenomics would'be been an impossibility if my understanding of it is up to scratch.

On a side note, re: the whole handicap for global powers, what would you recommend for China? The Tibet situation could be something? Or maybe its growing tensions with neighbours and the US?


My nation was looking to expand into Southwester Tibet, just saying :P
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Postby Chewion » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:31 pm

Bentus wrote:
Deramen wrote:Look, Japan doesn't consider Isis that big a threat, and with Japan being pacifist its gonna take a hell of long time to raise 500k. You also have to remember Japans age is getting older while not reproducing to you'll have to deal with that as well.

That 500k would mobilize 1/254 of your population by my calculations. Which seems very unlikely. I recommend focusing on your economy before raising your millitary.


Ditto with this really. Every action comes with reactions when dealing with alt. history. For instance, a massive military buildup would've gutted the Japanese government's budget, putting an end to any thought of a stimulus package for its stagnating economy - Abenomics would'be been an impossibility if my understanding of it is up to scratch.

On a side note, re: the whole handicap for global powers, what would you recommend for China? The Tibet situation could be something? Or maybe its growing tensions with neighbours and the US?

All I did was increase the budget to 3% which is very sustainable. It wasn't a massive overwhelming ww2 Germany style build up. It was just a build up of mainly the amount of people in the military and a few new vehicles to account for that.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:33 pm

Chewion wrote:Can Japan host some kind of emergency meeting of the world leaders?


What kind of emergency, if I may know? There are plenty of emergency in Asia at the moment. Such as the mass demonstration for the elected leaders (like in South Korea for example), Rohingya.

China is kind of, but considering Japan is still under US protection, it would be unlikely. China is strong, but that doesn't mean they want to use their power to attack Japan.

Japan has their citizens killed by ISIS, and with the new defense constitution has the right to mobilize troops, though.

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Bentus wrote:
Ditto with this really. Every action comes with reactions when dealing with alt. history. For instance, a massive military buildup would've gutted the Japanese government's budget, putting an end to any thought of a stimulus package for its stagnating economy - Abenomics would'be been an impossibility if my understanding of it is up to scratch.

On a side note, re: the whole handicap for global powers, what would you recommend for China? The Tibet situation could be something? Or maybe its growing tensions with neighbours and the US?

All I did was increase the budget to 3% which is very sustainable. It wasn't a massive overwhelming ww2 Germany style build up. It was just a build up of mainly the amount of people in the military and a few new vehicles to account for that.


Japan's economy is strong, but not as strong as before. And you need to focus on demographics and technology, since your population is growing old and the young doesn't has the incentive to have children.
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