Ascent of Mankind - Civilization RP - OOC/Signups

[ApplePieistan]

But then I can't copy G-Tech's technologies.

I guess it's a question of if you want ~8 Science now, or +1 Science for the next 30 Turns.

The answer is less obvious than it seems. While making my own religion would be good, I really want that Great Wall, and if I rush architecture turn 15, Ninurtusur will lose many people, meaning they can't contribute to the wall.

[ApplePieistan]

Wait, how do people have cultural paradigms? Is this your political paradigm, or...?

I think Apple is talking about the Prophecy religious paradigm. It's the only one that can steal tech if you adopt someone else's paradigm.

Little does she realize that switching back out of my paradigm will provoke mass anarchy..

I think anarchy only happens when switching political paradigms, not cultural.

[The Grim Reaper]

Wait, how do people have cultural paradigms? Is this your political paradigm, or...?

I think Apple is talking about the Prophecy religious paradigm. It's the only one that can steal tech if you adopt someone else's paradigm.

Little does she realize that switching back out of my paradigm will provoke mass anarchy..

Anarchy is only provoked by political paradigm switching.

Well, I'll get around to Philosophy some time, so I'll need a cultural values paradigm. Hmm hmm hmm.

[Cainesland]

I think Apple is talking about the Prophecy religious paradigm. It's the only one that can steal tech if you adopt someone else's paradigm.

Little does she realize that switching back out of my paradigm will provoke mass anarchy..

I think anarchy only happens when switching political paradigms, not cultural.

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

[The Grim Reaper]

I think anarchy only happens when switching political paradigms, not cultural.

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

I will be going for the Garden after I finish the Port, and then the Walls. Please do not build any wonders, thank you.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I think anarchy only happens when switching political paradigms, not cultural.

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

Honestly, it's a pretty low priority for me, but I'll build it if I can.

And ha, joke is on you Apple. I don't have a Cultural Paradigm to adopt, only a Political one.

[ApplePieistan]

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

Honestly, it's a pretty low priority for me, but I'll build it if I can.

And ha, joke is on you Apple. I don't have a Cultural Paradigm to adopt, only a Political one.

But you researched prophecy. What did you do with that?

[Cainesland]

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

I will be going for the Garden after I finish the Port, and then the Walls. Please do not build any wonders, thank you.

That's a tall order to ask of us, Grim.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Honestly, it's a pretty low priority for me, but I'll build it if I can.

And ha, joke is on you Apple. I don't have a Cultural Paradigm to adopt, only a Political one.

But you researched prophecy. What did you do with that?

A religious paradigm, I assume.

[ApplePieistan]

But you researched prophecy. What did you do with that?

A religious paradigm, I assume.

Harkback called the paradigm you get from prophecy a "religious cultural paradigm", so I think a religious and cultural paradigm are the same thing.

[Cainesland]

A religious paradigm, I assume.

Harkback called the paradigm you get from prophecy a "religious cultural paradigm", so I think a religious and cultural paradigm are the same thing.

I would disagree. I would think they are seperate but distinct groups.

[G-Tech Corporation]

A religious paradigm, I assume.

Harkback called the paradigm you get from prophecy a "religious cultural paradigm", so I think a religious and cultural paradigm are the same thing.

But I'm assuming it's different than a cultural cultural paradigm, since obviously a civilization can't have two cultural paradigms, and that's what would happen if it was the same as the one you can get from Philosophy.

[The Grim Reaper]

I will be going for the Garden after I finish the Port, and then the Walls. Please do not build any wonders, thank you.

That's a tall order to ask of us, Grim.

Uggghh, finnneee.

[The Grim Reaper]

Harkback called the paradigm you get from prophecy a "religious cultural paradigm", so I think a religious and cultural paradigm are the same thing.

But I'm assuming it's different than a cultural cultural paradigm, since obviously a civilization can't have two cultural paradigms, and that's what would happen if it was the same as the one you can get from Philosophy.

Philosophy gives you an option of a political cultural paradigm, or a cultural values paradigm.

And the anarchy transition period only applies to political paradigms.

[ApplePieistan]

Harkback called the paradigm you get from prophecy a "religious cultural paradigm", so I think a religious and cultural paradigm are the same thing.

But I'm assuming it's different than a cultural cultural paradigm, since obviously a civilization can't have two cultural paradigms, and that's what would happen if it was the same as the one you can get from Philosophy.

Alright, so if I convert to your religion, I can get those 2 free techs then? If so, sweet, I bet this one is +1 science and other stuff.

[Harkback Union]

There are 5 sub-types of cultural paradigms, and you can adopt 1 for each.
Religion - (Shamans, Monotheism)
Architecture - (Classicist, Art-deco)
Values - (Egalitarian, Authoritarian)
Music - (Romantic, Dub-step)
Media - (Free press, Propaganda)

[Harkback Union]

I think I'll just stay in the Southern Half, Deep Ones kind of scare me. Also, what are the three economic paradigms? I know Grims Patronage one but what are the other two?

But the Deep Ones are in the Southern Half

One of the other Economic Paradigms was my Dark Organellism, which allows you to build the Dark Forge [5 Food, +1 Minerals and Fert] and gives +1 Food.

Okay... So the Dark forge should cost:

Require metal casting and 1 smithy built anywhere in faction,
- cost 5 Minerals to build and temporarily destroys 1 fertility when built. Employs 1 population and yields +1 Minerals per turn.
- Counts as smithy for military production.

[Harkback Union]

In the same way a Trireme can, absolutely.

But if you don't build docks, your colony will starve on the first turn because you won't be able to ship them food.

I know previous RPs had it different, but here you can deliver goods from ports to other coastal provinces even if they have no ports.

[Harkback Union]

Yeah, but to do that he's supposed to have troops in your province.
He can't have troops in your province if you have an army protecting it...


An army that is stronger then his, that is.

My understanding is that the Coastal Raids could capture population without Security, representing the ability to strike at night/in areas armies aren't protecting.

Okay, fine, then each military unit can from now on be assigned to "Patrol shores", thus protecting up to 10 unsecured populations from fishman abduction. 1 Military per 5 pop would require too large standing armies, possibly crippling the economy of otherwise peaceful factions.
+ How am I supposed to launch sneak attacks if everyone has troops mobilized all the time?

Would that be fine?
Also, no more then 1 abductions per province per turn and no abductions from factions with net population 5 or less, else new players will GG WP on turn 1.

But really, I don't understand why you can't just move your troops into provinces and steal people the regular way. It would make much more sense mechanics wise and not require any additional rules from being piled on to the playerbase.

[Maljaratas]

I think anarchy only happens when switching political paradigms, not cultural.

Yep. Instant cultural. 2 turns of anarchy for political.


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Whose going for the garden?

That would be me

[Harkback Union]

Any applicants for the office of Vice-OP?

[G-Tech Corporation]

My understanding is that the Coastal Raids could capture population without Security, representing the ability to strike at night/in areas armies aren't protecting.

Okay, fine, then each military unit can from now on be assigned to "Patrol shores", thus protecting up to 10 unsecured populations from fishman abduction. 1 Military per 5 pop would require too large standing armies, possibly crippling the economy of otherwise peaceful factions.
+ How am I supposed to launch sneak attacks if everyone has troops mobilized all the time?

Would that be fine?
Also, no more then 1 abductions per province per turn and no abductions from factions with net population 5 or less, else new players will GG WP on turn 1.

But really, I don't understand why you can't just move your troops into provinces and steal people the regular way. It would make much more sense mechanics wise and not require any additional rules from being piled on to the playerbase.

I suppose I could just conquer people and then drain their population over time until their civilization is gone. But that seemed a bit harsh. I guess I can do that though if it would be more convenient.

[Brunslavia]

I know now what to do i have phrophecy so i shall get great temple

[Brunslavia]

And since i have that can i create my own religion

[Cainesland]

Do the illustrious gardens take up population to function?