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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:24 am

Shadowwell wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Most of the components for an Iron Man suit are superalloys that can absorb tank shells despite being less than an inch thick, highly efficient propulsion systems, advanced AI, and compact but powerful motors. We have none of these. We are nowhere near an Iron Man suit.

That is not explaining how realisically we wouldnt be able to make an fascimile, meaning something similar not an exact copy of a fictional thing, of the ironman suit.

Google wrote:Facsimile: an exact copy, especially of written or printed material.


It actually explains it pretty fucking well. To get anywhere near the Iron Man suit we would need technology that probably won't be around within eleven years..
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Postby Shadowwell » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:27 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:That is not explaining how realisically we wouldnt be able to make an fascimile, meaning something similar not an exact copy of a fictional thing, of the ironman suit.

Google wrote:Facsimile: an exact copy, especially of written or printed material.


It actually explains it pretty fucking well. To get anywhere near the Iron Man suit we would need technology that probably won't be around within eleven years..

Did the first iron man suit have an Ai no, the superalloy armor? no, but could we still realistically make it perhaps. You are basing your answers using things from a fictional comic, i am using established public fact.

You also only used one definition of Fascimile, and copy can also mean something similar to, so what was your point with that?
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Postby WaRtArIa » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:28 am

Realistically, the Iron Man suit would be very shitty for combat, anyways.

First of all, there is the weight and mobility issue. The suit definitely weighs over 40 kilos at the very least, and that doesn't include the weigh of the missiles, engines, or weaponry it may have. Sometimes, we wonder how is it that the wearer will be able to move as if he was wearing no clothes at all. Not only does he have an extra 40 kg to carry, but he is dealing with a material that is not flexible at all, and the suit doesn't leave any opening, so it baffles me how TS can actually move like a professional ballerina while wearing the suit.

Second, many would think that because the suit is an armor it would actually protect the wearer from anything, which is partially true, if Iron man would only be getting shot by small bullets. Then, it MIGHT work, but for the kind of punishment that iron man gets, like being hit with extreme force and sent flying usually plummeting to the ground at extreme speeds, hell naw, no suit will protect you against that, and it could even perfectly make matters worse, you'd be ricocheting inside the suit, even if its skintight, the metal AND the force from the fall and hit will be crashing against your body and you'd be dead in a second. The vibrations would probably hurt like fuck.

We're not close to copying the Iron Man suit, and we shouldn't, anyways.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:40 am

Shadowwell wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:

It actually explains it pretty fucking well. To get anywhere near the Iron Man suit we would need technology that probably won't be around within eleven years..

Did the first iron man suit have an Ai no,

Yes it did.
the superalloy armor? no, but could we still realistically make it perhaps.

A super-strong and super-light alloy capable of absorbing things larger than standard small arms? In ten years.
You are basing your answers using things from a fictional comic, i am using established public fact.

I'm sorry we can't realistically get anywhere near the Iron Man suit.
You also only used one definition of Fascimile, and copy can also mean something similar to, so what was your point with that?

A copy tends to be like the thing it's trying to copy. Even in ten years, we won't be close to Iron Man.
Wartaria wrote:Realistically, the Iron Man suit would be very shitty for combat, anyways.

First of all, there is the weight and mobility issue. The suit definitely weighs over 40 kilos at the very least, and that doesn't include the weigh of the missiles, engines, or weaponry it may have. Sometimes, we wonder how is it that the wearer will be able to move as if he was wearing no clothes at all.

It's power armor. It supports itself.
Not only does he have an extra 40 kg to carry, but he is dealing with a material that is not flexible at all, and the suit doesn't leave any opening, so it baffles me how TS can actually move like a professional ballerina while wearing the suit.

If a knight in full plate can do it,then so can Iron Man. If a knight in full plate can't do it, then it doesn't actually need to be that flexible.

Second, many would think that because the suit is an armor it would actually protect the wearer from anything, which is partially true, if Iron man would only be getting shot by small bullets. Then, it MIGHT work, but for the kind of punishment that iron man gets, like being hit with extreme force and sent flying usually plummeting to the ground at extreme speeds, hell naw, no suit will protect you against that, and it could even perfectly make matters worse, you'd be ricocheting inside the suit, even if its skintight, the metal AND the force from the fall and hit will be crashing against your body and you'd be dead in a second. The vibrations would probably hurt like fuck.

This is true, but a mobile suit capable of fully protecting you from small arms and still lets you carry heavy equipment is an extreme advantage for infantry and support units even if it's not as strong as Iron Man. This is why power armor is such a common concept in science fiction.

We're not close to copying the Iron Man suit, and we shouldn't, anyways.

If we could actually make armor capable of all the same feats as Iron Man, every military in the world would want their entire fucking army to wear it.
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Postby Shadowwell » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:52 am

so the first suit of ironman armor he made in the desert had an AI? not that i recall.
Anyways this is the last of the matter for me, since you are refusing to accept that:
A. there are things in development that will be able to tank most types of bullet rounds atleast.

B. there are things that exist that allow people to lift beyond normal means, tings that people wear, not car jacks adn the like.

C. That not everything ina fictional comic wll need to be effectively translated to reality in order for something based off the comic item to work.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:52 am

Knights don't move like they're weightless, by the way. Iron Man does.

The vibrations from the impact can severely injure or kill someone wearing the Iron Man suit. Plus, it'd be extremely hot and uncomfortable in there. Unless there's thick padding and a cooling system in the suit, I don't think it would work too well.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:00 pm

Wartaria wrote:Knights don't move like they're weightless, by the way. Iron Man does.

Knights don't have advanced servos supporting their armor, first of all.

Secondly, they are actually quite nimble even in armor.

The vibrations from the impact can severely injure or kill someone wearing the Iron Man suit. Plus, it'd be extremely hot and uncomfortable in there.

Soldiers can live with that.
Unless there's thick padding and a cooling system in the suit, I don't think it would work too well.

Assuming they can't put those things in power armor.

Shadowwell wrote:so the first suit of ironman armor he made in the desert had an AI? not that i recall.

That Iron Man suit is not an Iron Man suit. It is a hulk of steel with motors and rockets.

His first Iron Man suit was the one that froze. It had AI.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:02 pm

Theyra wrote:I think my change the name for the rp before I post it, any ideas for my sci fi desert rp?

Octopi are sentient and they're colonizing it.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:02 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Wartaria wrote:Knights don't move like they're weightless, by the way. Iron Man does.

Knights don't have advanced servos supporting their armor, first of all.

Secondly, they are actually quite nimble even in armor.

The vibrations from the impact can severely injure or kill someone wearing the Iron Man suit. Plus, it'd be extremely hot and uncomfortable in there.

Soldiers can live with that.
Unless there's thick padding and a cooling system in the suit, I don't think it would work too well.

Assuming they can't put those things in power armor.

Shadowwell wrote:so the first suit of ironman armor he made in the desert had an AI? not that i recall.

That Iron Man suit is not an Iron Man suit. It is a hulk of steel with motors and rockets.

His first Iron Man suit was the one that froze. It had AI.

I just said that the vibrations could kill or severely injure someone wearing the Iron Man suit.

Note the "kill" part.

Then, you state that the people wearing the suit can live with that. How? I mean, when they're dead, they technically can't live with that.

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Postby Tagali Federation » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:04 pm

Guys, it's a fucking Rp. I'm okay with some realism getting thrown out the door.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:06 pm

Shadowwell wrote:so the first suit of ironman armor he made in the desert had an AI? not that i recall.
Anyways this is the last of the matter for me, since you are refusing to accept that:
A. there are things in development that will be able to tank most types of bullet rounds atleast.

I am not refusing to accept that. I am rejecting the notion that bullet resistance is anywhere near Iron Man levels of protection.

B. there are things that exist that allow people to lift beyond normal means, tings that people wear, not car jacks adn the like.

I am not refusing to accept this. I am rejecting that they are anywhere near Iron Man's super strength.

C. That not everything ina fictional comic wll need to be effectively translated to reality in order for something based off the comic item to work.

Actually, yeah. If you want a copy of the Iron Man suit it would need super strength, nigh invulnerability, and supersonic flight. We cannot realistically achieve any of those on a weapon platform in the next ten years.

Wartaria wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Knights don't have advanced servos supporting their armor, first of all.

Secondly, they are actually quite nimble even in armor.

Soldiers can live with that.

Assuming they can't put those things in power armor.


That Iron Man suit is not an Iron Man suit. It is a hulk of steel with motors and rockets.

His first Iron Man suit was the one that froze. It had AI.

I just said that the vibrations could kill or severely injure someone wearing the Iron Man suit.

Note the "kill" part.

Then, you state that the people wearing the suit can live with that. How? I mean, when they're dead, they technically can't live with that.

Soldiers can live with being hot and bothered.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:06 pm

Tagali Federation wrote:Guys, it's a fucking Rp. I'm okay with some realism getting thrown out the door.

Not until they accept being wrong!
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Postby The Olog-Hai » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:38 pm

Beiarusia wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:well the 20's will actually make a good setting, depending upon how Superheroes and Metas are in the world. The 20's while an era of rebuilding held much crime and the like as well, it will depend upon the setting, but could be good. If you are to do this, i would suggest limiting the powers or create some sort of power tier system for it, or the like.

Was thinking they'd be a bit numerous in the sense that they've always been around if maybe a bit more so nowadays. Most would have benign abilities or would be considered basically human (think minor abilities like bending spoons or whatnot), with any dangerous powers being exceedingly rare. Already had a tier class in mind as well. The US government would organize metas between D-Class (or maybe E or F-Class depending on fine tuning) to A-Class. By your suggestion I take it that you've seen RP's get derailed by powers?

Reminds me of the Grimnoir Chronicles, though that takes place during the 30s
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Postby Beiarusia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:13 pm

The Olog-Hai wrote:Reminds me of the Grimnoir Chronicles, though that takes place during the 30s

Never heard of it but I'll assume it's good.

Wartaria wrote:It might just kick off, but many of us don't know about the customs and culture of the 20s, which hopefully would be briefly covered.

Prohibition, mobsters, flappers, etc. As long as the feel is there then I doubt 100% accuracy is needed all things depending.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:18 pm

Beiarusia wrote:
The Olog-Hai wrote:Reminds me of the Grimnoir Chronicles, though that takes place during the 30s

Never heard of it but I'll assume it's good.

Wartaria wrote:It might just kick off, but many of us don't know about the customs and culture of the 20s, which hopefully would be briefly covered.

Prohibition, mobsters, flappers, etc. As long as the feel is there then I doubt 100% accuracy is needed all things depending.

Pretty much.

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Postby The Olog-Hai » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:19 pm

Beiarusia wrote:
The Olog-Hai wrote:Reminds me of the Grimnoir Chronicles, though that takes place during the 30s

Never heard of it but I'll assume it's good.

Wartaria wrote:It might just kick off, but many of us don't know about the customs and culture of the 20s, which hopefully would be briefly covered.

Prohibition, mobsters, flappers, etc. As long as the feel is there then I doubt 100% accuracy is needed all things depending.

You heard of Larry Correia? He's the one who wrote it.
He also wrote Monster Hunters International, which I haven't gotten around to yet.
I do recommend the Grimnoir Chronicles, though.
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Postby Anowa » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Tagali Federation wrote:Guys, it's a fucking Rp. I'm okay with some realism getting thrown out the door.

Fuck it, time to make a composite hero and roll with it.

Let's do it.
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I also just noticed that I broke ten thousand posts without noticing.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:50 pm

Anowa wrote:I also just noticed that I broke ten thousand posts without noticing.

Noice.
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Postby Theyra » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:51 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Anowa wrote:I also just noticed that I broke ten thousand posts without noticing.

Noice.


Nice job.

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Postby Shadowwell » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:15 pm

Wartaria wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:Never heard of it but I'll assume it's good.


Prohibition, mobsters, flappers, etc. As long as the feel is there then I doubt 100% accuracy is needed all things depending.

Pretty much.

I got links and info on my hot lead and cold hearts thread also got a 20's noirspeak glossary link as well.
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Postby Theyra » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:19 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
Wartaria wrote:Pretty much.

I got links and info on my hot lead and cold hearts thread also got a 20's noirspeak glossary link as well.


So in this rp of your we would be play as detectives? Or as anything?

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Postby Shadowwell » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:30 pm

Theyra wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:I got links and info on my hot lead and cold hearts thread also got a 20's noirspeak glossary link as well.


So in this rp of your we would be play as detectives? Or as anything?

Jmainly those associated with the detective agency or the CT PD, but other charcter could be allowed as npc's.
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Postby Insaeldor » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:49 pm

I've currently have no RP commitments outside my region right now. I could always throw up and maintain the 1920's Superhero RPwith the blessing of the conceptual creator.
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Postby Sarejo » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:53 pm

You guys can have this discussion, which is perfectly okay and even encouraged.

However condescending and malicious sarcasm will not be tolerated. Come on guys, we're all friends here.

Fair warning.
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