The Distant Past and Present [OOC|Closed]

[The Knights of Azorea]

Perhaps not the wisest plan, but my excuse is that I hadn't seen a map of where the cataracts were in a while.

[Olthenia]

Nice to see those NPC factions coming in, G-Tech. Those Charkarvids sound nasty.

I wonder if there's going to be any in Italy or the Balkans. That would be fun.

[The Tricolour]

Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Kingdom of Cyprus
Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Location: http://imgur.com/a/DqSHD Everything in green.
Brief History:
532-523 BC: Antigonus I - United all of Cyprus and proclaimed himself as it's King. He oversaw the 6-year building period of the Royal Capitol, and the 7-year construction of the new Capitol, Mycanthia. (Focused on military)
523-520 BC: Eusebius I - Began building trade networks across the Mediteranean. Began the Golden Age. (Focused on economy)
520-509 BC: Xenokrates I - Established a foothold in Turkey, and began fortifying it. (Focused on military)
509-500 BC: Euthymius I - Continued building trade routes, like his grandfather. (Focused
Military Description: 2,500 men
Naval Description: Since Cyprus is an island nation focused on trade, it has a navy stronger than most. It has 13 triremes.
Color for Map: Green, please.

Am I accepted?

[The V O I D]

My IC post to interact with my neighbors is coming along nicely. Might have it up tonight or tomorrow, hopefully tonight.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Nice to see those NPC factions coming in, G-Tech. Those Charkarvids sound nasty.

I wonder if there's going to be any in Italy or the Balkans. That would be fun.

Probably not, though time will tell. They're mainly in place to fill important areas that were unpopulated when we started.

[Austria and Bavaria]

Is it alright that I plan to write my IC posts in past tense, as though it's an author writing an epic based on what happened? I'm going to take a few liberties with reality, but nothing power-gamey. It's going to be a sort of combination Bible and Iliad.

[The V O I D]

G-tech, just noticed a spelling error in OP. I'm listed as the 'Sacred Indutai Empire', when it is Indautai.

[Of the Quendi]

Mm, yes Quendi, that will need to be changed. I certainly follow your logic, but it must be remembered that no civilization here is Persia/Egypt/Babylon of our RL timeline. Nobody has the depth of history and the land area to raise thousands of men on a permanent basis without significant drawbacks. Several hundred professional soldiers supplemented by campaign levies should be your military, or with the right reasoning I would accept a higher number of citizen soldiers of more middling quality. Those numbers are also purely preliminary- you are free to expand them ICly as you acquire wealth and territory, as long as attention is paid to the drawbacks of raising larger armies and equipping them.

Well if you insist I will of course adjust my numbers downwards. But I have to say that even small states of this era could mobilize at least a couple of thousands with relative ease. Obscure Greek city-states could raise that during the second Persian invasion of Greece. Sparta and Athens, which it seems would correspond roughly in size to the smaller nations in this game both exceeded ten thousand, Athens by a lot, so I don't really see the problem with thousands of troops. I also don't have a large number of professional troops. Only the Anûšiya, the elephants and some of the horse cavalry are standing troops, less than a thousand all told. Most of the rest are peasant conscripts armed with pitchforks, or a smaller groups of capable but not full-time levies.

[Adurnak]

Are people okay if I claim a population of about 450,000 for all of Sardinia? Because according to wiki (not a great source I know but) people have put a low end population size of 600,000 for Sicily around this time Irl

[G-Tech Corporation]

Mm, yes Quendi, that will need to be changed. I certainly follow your logic, but it must be remembered that no civilization here is Persia/Egypt/Babylon of our RL timeline. Nobody has the depth of history and the land area to raise thousands of men on a permanent basis without significant drawbacks. Several hundred professional soldiers supplemented by campaign levies should be your military, or with the right reasoning I would accept a higher number of citizen soldiers of more middling quality. Those numbers are also purely preliminary- you are free to expand them ICly as you acquire wealth and territory, as long as attention is paid to the drawbacks of raising larger armies and equipping them.

Well if you insist I will of course adjust my numbers downwards. But I have to say that even small states of this era could mobilize at least a couple of thousands with relative ease. Obscure Greek city-states could raise that during the second Persian invasion of Greece. Sparta and Athens, which it seems would correspond roughly in size to the smaller nations in this game both exceeded ten thousand, Athens by a lot, so I don't really see the problem with thousands of troops. I also don't have a large number of professional troops. Only the Anûšiya, the elephants and some of the horse cavalry are standing troops, less than a thousand all told. Most of the rest are peasant conscripts armed with pitchforks, or a smaller groups of capable but not full-time levies.

Is that all you're claiming for professionals? Because I would see the shield-bearers as such, and that's where your numbers got dodgy for me. Anyone in this RP should be able to mobilize thousands if not tens of thousands of levies for a campaign. Professional soldiers are the only numbers I'm actually concerned with.

[The Tricolour]

Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Kingdom of Cyprus
Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Location: http://imgur.com/a/DqSHD Everything in green.
Brief History:
532-523 BC: Antigonus I - United all of Cyprus and proclaimed himself as it's King. He oversaw the 6-year building period of the Royal Capitol, and the 7-year construction of the new Capitol, Mycanthia. (Focused on military)
523-520 BC: Eusebius I - Began building trade networks across the Mediteranean. Began the Golden Age. (Focused on economy)
520-509 BC: Xenokrates I - Established a foothold in Turkey, and began fortifying it. (Focused on military)
509-500 BC: Euthymius I - Continued building trade routes, like his grandfather. (Focused
Military Description: 2,500 men
Naval Description: Since Cyprus is an island nation focused on trade, it has a navy stronger than most. It has 13 triremes.
Color for Map: Green, please.

Am I accepted?

Bump

[G-Tech Corporation]

Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Kingdom of Cyprus
Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Location: http://imgur.com/a/DqSHD Everything in green.
Brief History:
532-523 BC: Antigonus I - United all of Cyprus and proclaimed himself as it's King. He oversaw the 6-year building period of the Royal Capitol, and the 7-year construction of the new Capitol, Mycanthia. (Focused on military)
523-520 BC: Eusebius I - Began building trade networks across the Mediteranean. Began the Golden Age. (Focused on economy)
520-509 BC: Xenokrates I - Established a foothold in Turkey, and began fortifying it. (Focused on military)
509-500 BC: Euthymius I - Continued building trade routes, like his grandfather. (Focused
Military Description: 2,500 men
Naval Description: Since Cyprus is an island nation focused on trade, it has a navy stronger than most. It has 13 triremes.
Color for Map: Green, please.

That will serve, Tricolour. Accepted.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Adurnak, it's silver that tetrahedrite smelts to, not lead.

[The Grim Reaper]

By the by, G-Tech, would you like us to format NPC correspondance/expansions in any particular way, or include a tag at the end of our posts, or are you fine trying to follow the narratives?

Mine push for some expanding now - maybe into the heart of Africa. I'm not particularly close to any of the NPCs, and when we find out about Poryphae's attempted invasion we'll probably not be willing to get involved (although I do intend to agree to this bronze cartel scheme).

[The Knights of Azorea]

Now knowing more about the state of the Namurians, I've a rather different plan for the mercenary force. Is it safe to assume that the Nile Delta is held by scattered villages and tribes? Would any of the old Jeledi cities still stand, even in a diminished state?

[Theyra]

Trotza I did send traders to you, unless I should just post them arriving at your borders?

[Trotza]

Trotza I did send traders to you, unless I should just post them arriving at your borders?

Oh I didn't see that, I'll add something into my post.

[Adurnak]

Someone send a mission towards the isle of Shardiei ey? You'll find copper and silver and countless other bounties, for those who have the coin

[Nuxipal]

Someone send a mission towards the isle of Shardiei ey? You'll find copper and silver and countless other bounties, for those who have the coin

Depending on where this Isle is .. I have amber to trade.

[Rygondria]

Someone send a mission towards the isle of Shardiei ey? You'll find copper and silver and countless other bounties, for those who have the coin

Depending on where this Isle is .. I have amber to trade.

as do i

[Rygondria]

do you think Salamnus is in a position to break the pirate kings.

[G-Tech Corporation]

By the by, G-Tech, would you like us to format NPC correspondance/expansions in any particular way, or include a tag at the end of our posts, or are you fine trying to follow the narratives?

Mine push for some expanding now - maybe into the heart of Africa. I'm not particularly close to any of the NPCs, and when we find out about Poryphae's attempted invasion we'll probably not be willing to get involved (although I do intend to agree to this bronze cartel scheme).

If you TG me expansions that would be best. Missives I can keep up on well enough OOCly.

Now knowing more about the state of the Namurians, I've a rather different plan for the mercenary force. Is it safe to assume that the Nile Delta is held by scattered villages and tribes? Would any of the old Jeledi cities still stand, even in a diminished state?

Both are likely true, though Jeledic colonies are likely intermingled with the locals.

[The V O I D]

Post taking too long plus I need to edit some context and such. Will post it either late tonight (doubtful) or tomorrow after school sometime.

Is it okay if the Indautai expand more along the Red Sea/Gulf of Aden coasts? I intend for them to be predominantly coastal at first before expanding inland on both fronts.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Norv, if you want to Rp more with the travelling bireme on the Nahneran, I'll paint you a picture of the society they're entering: for those coming from the Eternal City, the Vanen'Ahneran would look thoroughly barbaric. They live in wooden houses, and some even live in huts and shacks. They have roads, although most paths are just dirt tracks tramped on by carts and horses. Animals walk among the market stalls, and all ships are built for river-going, meaning they are far smaller and simpler than the large bireme. The poor are dressed in simple tunics in various colours, mostly made from wool, while the rich wear tartan patterns of stripes and squares. Their hair is somewhat rough and unkempt for the outside observer, although they conform with the rigid fashion surrounding hairstyles. So, even the provincial capital of Gorgote would look like a shithole to them, basically. Their religion is so closely connected with modern life that I doubt that they would recognise the Temples as such, and the concept of a god is completely foreign to these people. They do, however, brew a good ale, and their lead and silver works are of fine quality.

[Rygondria]

how should i format my first post